I ain't seen one yet but you got a video on the ATS-V yet guru? I mean for the price of this Z you can get one of these some bolt on and a tune and be around 600ish easy.
Definitely over priced same chassis just new look SMH…….this corporate world is so insane with screwing people over it’s sad. What makes it worse is some people feed into it which make them feel like they can keep doing it.
Hot take: if Nissan instead gave the new Z the VK56 V8 out of the Titan and came stock with something like a 1.5 LSD, it would have been much better off. I say this as a two time VQ owner-- the VR30 is not exactly what we call an upgrade.
I think overall this car got caught up between the Covid 19 “chip shortage” and plain ole inflation. Being a “Z” guy I’ve been anticipating this car for a while. Originally when I heard of the idea of a new Z it was rumored to be in the 30-40K range. Ultimately I’d probably still get one if the price either goes down after slow sales or if the used market turns out being more reasonable. The familiarity of the “Z” chassis and twin turbo set up combined with places like Z1 Motorsports and Conceptzperformance the mods and upgrades are promising. I do agree with everything he’s saying in the video and no I can’t afford one at this time. 😆 I’ll definitely have to sell my mint G35 coupe to put towards the purchase if I decide to go that route.😊
I love z cars too. But this thing just reinforced my need to build a 350 or 370 with a gtr awd mod. G35 bits and a r35 transfer case. Plus an r34 transmission. Stock motor but built up.
Facts. My wife had a 350z and me a 370z nismo. When it came time to get her a upgrade I showed her the new z and she said hell no. She now has a Q60 rs.
Wanted to wait for this but so happy I pulled the trigger on a mkV premium, even though the ecu "locked" 🔐 I still got it when interest rates were stupid low and dealer markups weren't even a thing yet
You should make videos in landscape mode homie and just make good thumbnail you are really good at the hooking us to the video so these things gonna help massive bro
You are making a lot of sense here! Especially if your the type of person that is looking to buy a car where you want to build it for the street Performace. lol
That’s exactly what I said when when it came out. Another reason I bought a brand new mustang gt. It was MUCH cheaper and I don’t have to do anything to it if I don’t want to.
I was so pressed to get this car and opted out. Now I have a 1987 Fairlady Z 200ZR II sitting in the garage (took me 5 months to import from Saitama, Japan). Clean versions of it were going for six figures. I got mine for $25k @ under 60k miles. Definitely ripping out the RB20 and building an RB25.
They do come twin turbo though.. Like the 90s 300Z. No 350 or 370 came turbo. So there is that lol.. Plus like you said it looks pretty good, especially the rear
you're absolutely right. i think these companies are relying too much on teh name anf legacy of teh cart to sell. But that is simply not enough for the majority nowadays. tehre are some diehard fans that will buy it, but thats them. for most people its gonna come down to HP and appeal per dollar. and as you said, the mustang, a C^ Z06, MUCH better bang for your buck. Especially considering this Z is new and the first year or two of anything new has the most problems.
Nissan messed up with the Z and the Skyline. Their skyline r35 should've looked like a updated R34 that everyone loves. Then the Z should've looked the the r35 we got instead.
Naw my car has the exact same engine with awd for 16k. Only reason I’m happy they made it is because the aftermarket is growing more. Z1 dropped a turbo kit that’s getting the vr30 700+ to the wheels on stock block with E85. That doesn’t justify how ridiculous this price is
I sold my 2014 370z 6 spd for a down payment on a new corvette. I' ve had a 300zx TT and a 370Z. Didn't see anything special with the new Z beside the manul transmission. I thought Nissan would have went back to the 1990's 300zx body style but didn't.
U sooo right bro.. and then they dropped the displacement to a 3.0!!?? Like wtf nizzan why didn’t y’all supped up the 3.5 and make wayyy more then 400hp
Rolling with u on this one O.G,I run a car with 276 hp and be giving all these ,” I’m far from a Hellcat 392s and fake Zs and all these over priced slow cars hell ,remind me when the car industry started putting on a body kits and giving the car a few interior upgrades then tack on a ridiculous price early 2000s they wasn’t giving alot more horses just looks.
SUBARU / TOYOTA is basically doing that with the FRS/BRZ/86. Same lack luster performance. 200hp, and that's at the crank. You can get a base model, Civic or Kia, with that.
@@mickeymang6 the way i see it ,its either your into building a fun or fast car, or your not too into doing all that and got the money but no time .I’m a build type guy.
Think next year all the viewers who can make it... we should have a meeting in a decent part of Memphis... I'm in Kc and would push my LS swapped 95 Gmc 1500 or 2015 Mustang there for a respectful car meet
It's better to import the jdms. They're way cheaper and overall better option. I'm looking at a couple right now and for 54k I can get 3 of them including shipping fees.
I agree brother, this is why I keep my 2005 350Z and just do a refresh Question , any ideas for me to get more power and torque ? Love your channel ! 👍
Guru already done a couple vids on the vq engine awhile back. Ain't too too much you can do to the stock blocks, but iirc you can get to around 4 or 500hp with simple things. Iirc, FBO, tune, low boost supercharger. Don't quote me though 😂
People complain and then look goofy when the company isn't making the car anymore and goes electric and WISH we had at least something, look at dodge after this year and the Camaro
Dealer markups are the only things ruining this car for the z fans and ricers. People asked for a version of the vr30 as a the bare minimum for this car. Achieved. Stock turbos? Check. Retro styling (even though they didnt get it totally right, and most of the time none of them ever do. A90 Supra, C8 vette, 2014+ camaro, new acura integra i'm 👀 at y'all) Point is, for who its (supposed to be) marketed to, with the new tuning potential, it would be a great car _*AT MSRP*_!!! 😤 Unfortunately for it, unless it's your dream car then it aint even worth the cost of ink on the window sticker for how much those scummy mfs try to gouge you. Z fan. Waited on this since the first "z proto" rumors. Still getting one eventually, but even i can see it aint worth it rn. 🤔 how much the q60 go for these days?
For $50k I’m buying a 2014 LOW mileage/ 2015 not-so-low mileage…damn near 600hp/trq 5.5L Twin Turbo V8 Mercedes E63! All wheel drive 33/67-percent front-to-rear torque split. A Rentech flash tune will get ya 800hp and 900ft lbs of torque! On the stock turbos. Mmmhmm yeah. Get you some… 😚👌🏼
For the price of the new Z i can build a 1000hp capable awd 350z using gtr and r34 parts and an uograded programmable attessa set up that also lets me go full awd or full rwd or consistent torque split. With computers and sensors that let it work faster then the stock awd system. Plus have the engine already pushing 600hp plus. Probably not the full 1000 hp though. But itd be nothing more then engine supporting mods to get it there. And itd be lighter than a gtr. And look better then the modern z.
Had the g35 and yes its beautiful and yes it handled insanely well but the engine is severely lacking. The latest Z makes zero sense. I'm sure it handles great but it needs more power to sell.for the msrp.
@@Cobra_460 I own a r34 wtf you on about lol not everything needs to be a gtr you must be Australian? Great cars but you don't need no PhD in GTR's to "know about them" you a gate keeper or something?
You spend your money how you choose its yours to decide but let's be sure...it's pretty redundant,seriously ridiculous to invest in this particular Nissan for that manufacturing price.✌
I still think buying a 350z for $2500 then complete Ls swapping it another 4k then tune and turbo for 3k, and boom u have a bad ass turbo v8 350z for 10-15k
I got to be honest I’m in the market to buy a new car and I wanted the new z but like you said it isn’t worth it. So I might grr we t the GR Corolla or a s550 mustang
I love you brother but I think you're missing the point. All Nissan Lovers wanted was another 370Z, just a little newer which is what we got. But the other point is for the modding community. It's a better starting position then the 370Z was! At least it's a Nissan which is a lot more then we can say for this new Subaru which is a BMW😂😂😂😂!
This is just a light weight q60😂 that’s rwd but great and easy hp potential tho but for that price I would just get a 370z throw a single turbo kit on it get about 650-700 to the wheel call it a day
Sorry about the quality guys not sure what happened🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
It's all good!, the message was clear!!💪🏿
I ain't seen one yet but you got a video on the ATS-V yet guru? I mean for the price of this Z you can get one of these some bolt on and a tune and be around 600ish easy.
Definitely over priced same chassis just new look SMH…….this corporate world is so insane with screwing people over it’s sad. What makes it worse is some people feed into it which make them feel like they can keep doing it.
The corporate world, i believe, is almost single handedly responsible for why everything is so expensive nowadays. Regardless of who is in office.
Yea after the new z last year i basically said im getting a 350z😂😂😂
You could build a sick 350Z for that kind of money.
When I heard the price, I said it will not sell well. Z's are supposed to be cheap, fun cars that drive great.
I love my new z!
Cheap fun cars are a thing of the past
@@racingjunk7024 Naw that's what old wrxs and stuff are for
They can’t even make enough Z’s due to “paint issues”. This generation Z is screwed.
Dealer Markups make no sense....
Car manufacturers as a whole just don’t know what the hell there doing nowadays they have destroyed the car culture smh
Hot take: if Nissan instead gave the new Z the VK56 V8 out of the Titan and came stock with something like a 1.5 LSD, it would have been much better off. I say this as a two time VQ owner-- the VR30 is not exactly what we call an upgrade.
That would make it faster than their GTR they won’t do that
The vqhr with a turbo kit or z1 supercharger is better engine than the vr30
I think overall this car got caught up between the Covid 19 “chip shortage” and plain ole inflation. Being a “Z” guy I’ve been anticipating this car for a while. Originally when I heard of the idea of a new Z it was rumored to be in the 30-40K range. Ultimately I’d probably still get one if the price either goes down after slow sales or if the used market turns out being more reasonable. The familiarity of the “Z” chassis and twin turbo set up combined with places like Z1 Motorsports and Conceptzperformance the mods and upgrades are promising. I do agree with everything he’s saying in the video and no I can’t afford one at this time. 😆 I’ll definitely have to sell my mint G35 coupe to put towards the purchase if I decide to go that route.😊
I love z cars too. But this thing just reinforced my need to build a 350 or 370 with a gtr awd mod. G35 bits and a r35 transfer case. Plus an r34 transmission. Stock motor but built up.
The fun is over for the most part with new cars!!
You should do a video about the new Integra Type S
Now thats even crazier in price
Facts. My wife had a 350z and me a 370z nismo. When it came time to get her a upgrade I showed her the new z and she said hell no. She now has a Q60 rs.
Now if we were in that 30k range, we could have a conversation
I’d much rather have like a Camaro ZL1 or GT500
Wanted to wait for this but so happy I pulled the trigger on a mkV premium, even though the ecu "locked" 🔐 I still got it when interest rates were stupid low and dealer markups weren't even a thing yet
You should make videos in landscape mode homie and just make good thumbnail you are really good at the hooking us to the video so these things gonna help massive bro
You are making a lot of sense here! Especially if your the type of person that is looking to buy a car where you want to build it for the street Performace. lol
Definitely gonna cop a gr corolla when I graduate college
That’s exactly what I said when when it came out. Another reason I bought a brand new mustang gt. It was MUCH cheaper and I don’t have to do anything to it if I don’t want to.
I was so pressed to get this car and opted out. Now I have a 1987 Fairlady Z 200ZR II sitting in the garage (took me 5 months to import from Saitama, Japan). Clean versions of it were going for six figures. I got mine for $25k @ under 60k miles. Definitely ripping out the RB20 and building an RB25.
You can still build the RB20 to like 800hp. Look at the guys in Australia.
Or Rb26😊
Straight facts bruh... every single damn new car
At least they kept it all Nissan and did not do what Toyota did with the supra and put a BMW engine in it....
They do come twin turbo though.. Like the 90s 300Z. No 350 or 370 came turbo. So there is that lol.. Plus like you said it looks pretty good, especially the rear
@@nhlba3301 says the guy with a Kia Stinger.. LoL
As the former owner of a ‘14 370z and certified Nissan fan, I reluctantly agree with you.
Spot on. The NISMO is even worse!
you're absolutely right. i think these companies are relying too much on teh name anf legacy of teh cart to sell. But that is simply not enough for the majority nowadays. tehre are some diehard fans that will buy it, but thats them. for most people its gonna come down to HP and appeal per dollar. and as you said, the mustang, a C^ Z06, MUCH better bang for your buck. Especially considering this Z is new and the first year or two of anything new has the most problems.
Nissan lol Eve the gtr is a stretch and that is there flagship car.
Nissan messed up with the Z and the Skyline. Their skyline r35 should've looked like a updated R34 that everyone loves. Then the Z should've looked the the r35 we got instead.
Wasn’t the gtr like a 60-65k car when it first released?
Naw my car has the exact same engine with awd for 16k. Only reason I’m happy they made it is because the aftermarket is growing more. Z1 dropped a turbo kit that’s getting the vr30 700+ to the wheels on stock block with E85. That doesn’t justify how ridiculous this price is
The absence of this car everywhere says it all
I sold my 2014 370z 6 spd for a down payment on a new corvette. I' ve had a 300zx TT and a 370Z. Didn't see anything special with the new Z beside the manul transmission. I thought Nissan would have went back to the 1990's 300zx body style but didn't.
Almost a grand for a car payment I think absolutely not
U sooo right bro.. and then they dropped the displacement to a 3.0!!?? Like wtf nizzan why didn’t y’all supped up the 3.5 and make wayyy more then 400hp
GR Corolla is my current dream car 😍 That thing is gorgeous to me
Yea Nissan is bugging they want 50,000 for a platinum Maxima that only makes 300 HP and only has a cvt option smh
These prices need to be banned...
Rolling with u on this one O.G,I run a car with 276 hp and be giving all these ,” I’m far from a Hellcat 392s and fake Zs and all these over priced slow cars hell ,remind me when the car industry started putting on a body kits and giving the car a few interior upgrades then tack on a ridiculous price early 2000s they wasn’t giving alot more horses just looks.
SUBARU / TOYOTA is basically doing that with the FRS/BRZ/86. Same lack luster performance. 200hp, and that's at the crank. You can get a base model, Civic or Kia, with that.
@@mickeymang6 the way i see it ,its either your into building a fun or fast car, or your not too into doing all that and got the money but no time .I’m a build type guy.
Think next year all the viewers who can make it... we should have a meeting in a decent part of Memphis... I'm in Kc and would push my LS swapped 95 Gmc 1500 or 2015 Mustang there for a respectful car meet
This is how I look at all cars 😂 for that price Shid I could…
It's better to import the jdms. They're way cheaper and overall better option. I'm looking at a couple right now and for 54k I can get 3 of them including shipping fees.
Some bullshit. For 1000-1200 a month, I could drive a viper acr
Might as well just get a Q60 Red Sport 😂
Speak the truth my brother.
I agree brother, this is why I keep my 2005 350Z and just do a refresh
Question , any ideas for me to get more power and torque ?
Love your channel ! 👍
Guru already done a couple vids on the vq engine awhile back. Ain't too too much you can do to the stock blocks, but iirc you can get to around 4 or 500hp with simple things. Iirc, FBO, tune, low boost supercharger. Don't quote me though 😂
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The interior fam that’s the only upside, well along with it being a factory turbo Z
The math ain't mathin'...
Bruh, I got 19 Camaro SS CPO with 18k miles for $33k 😅. Whoopin on these $60k Z’s 😆
You should make a video on the srt4 dodge caliber
Hey, it could be worst like the Acura Integra. That new Integra is HORRIBLE.
What do you think about the tlx type s
People complain and then look goofy when the company isn't making the car anymore and goes electric and WISH we had at least something, look at dodge after this year and the Camaro
My Dad always said why but a Chinese/Asian car They have enough money already
For the new Z I would probably pay $13,5
Yeah they didn’t think it through when it came to the price.. I’ll rather get the new Mustang GT for that price lol
I could build me a ford escape 2.0 ecoboost with that money
You can get a 5th gen camaro SS for like 19k already modded.
I was just thinking the same thing.
Hey, what do you think about the "23 Nissan GT-R?
Its Mustang GT money. For being a parts bin special, it should be way cheaper.
Same basic vr30tt they’ve been using since 2015… typical Nissan
Dealer markups are the only things ruining this car for the z fans and ricers. People asked for a version of the vr30 as a the bare minimum for this car. Achieved. Stock turbos? Check. Retro styling (even though they didnt get it totally right, and most of the time none of them ever do. A90 Supra, C8 vette, 2014+ camaro, new acura integra i'm 👀 at y'all)
Point is, for who its (supposed to be) marketed to, with the new tuning potential, it would be a great car _*AT MSRP*_!!! 😤
Unfortunately for it, unless it's your dream car then it aint even worth the cost of ink on the window sticker for how much those scummy mfs try to gouge you.
Z fan. Waited on this since the first "z proto" rumors. Still getting one eventually, but even i can see it aint worth it rn. 🤔 how much the q60 go for these days?
My 300zx cost me literally zero dollars and it's only got 100 less Z points than the 400z lol
No, even BETTER…you mean a 2021! Not even a 2018 GT!
I wonder how much a lease for a gtr would cost at that point 929 for that
its literally a 370 with a body kit and engine swap
I would go get a presonal loan for 50,000 and build me a C5 corvette monster. At least I won't feel bad about a high monthly payment. 😂😂
I’m waiting on an answer for a SRT Jeep for 30,000‼️
you can get a M340 for that price
For $50k I’m buying a 2014 LOW mileage/ 2015 not-so-low mileage…damn near 600hp/trq 5.5L Twin Turbo V8 Mercedes E63! All wheel drive 33/67-percent front-to-rear torque split.
A Rentech flash tune will get ya
800hp and 900ft lbs of torque! On the stock turbos. Mmmhmm yeah. Get you some… 😚👌🏼
But why would they put 500+ horse power in a Nisan z ? 😂 Porsches barely have that much power. People are just horse power thirsty
I have yet to see one on the road
You could buy a used Q60 with AWD take it to 700hp and have enough money left over for a daily.
Yes you’re right that the Z doesn’t make sense, but thats the exact reason why I bought one and absolutely love it.
That’s an expensive Infinity G ain’t it
You right
55k? you better buy a GTR
2008 JDM are going for only like 40k CAD before import such a good deal IMO
C6 Z06 vs 400z you should test drive both and compare the price difference 😂
For the price of the new Z i can build a 1000hp capable awd 350z using gtr and r34 parts and an uograded programmable attessa set up that also lets me go full awd or full rwd or consistent torque split. With computers and sensors that let it work faster then the stock awd system.
Plus have the engine already pushing 600hp plus. Probably not the full 1000 hp though. But itd be nothing more then engine supporting mods to get it there. And itd be lighter than a gtr. And look better then the modern z.
Had the g35 and yes its beautiful and yes it handled insanely well but the engine is severely lacking. The latest Z makes zero sense. I'm sure it handles great but it needs more power to sell.for the msrp.
The could have used the 3.8L from gtr and detuned it to 450 hp.
What they should’ve done is detune the Nissan gtr motor and put into this one and there you go. Let me know what you guys think.
I agree a bit but that engine is 15 years old at this point even older than the vr30
@@jdmsnail2505 yeah also to mention the gtr didn’t even get a redesign! Ah well it is what it is. At least it didn’t go EV.
@@jdmsnail2505 the VR30 is code for….. my bad I don’t know anything about GTRS
@@Cobra_460 I own a r34 wtf you on about lol not everything needs to be a gtr you must be Australian? Great cars but you don't need no PhD in GTR's to "know about them" you a gate keeper or something?
I think the z could have looked a better tho a little to be desired for sure
All facts!
You spend your money how you choose its yours to decide but let's be sure...it's pretty redundant,seriously ridiculous to invest in this particular Nissan for that manufacturing price.✌
I love z’s but not so sure. They don’t seem to have a super ton of pop on the design For me.
I still think buying a 350z for $2500 then complete Ls swapping it another 4k then tune and turbo for 3k, and boom u have a bad ass turbo v8 350z for 10-15k
*I had a 350z. I enjoyed it. That new version aint it. Nissan gots to do better*
The new Prius is better at this point 😅😂
I got to be honest I’m in the market to buy a new car and I wanted the new z but like you said it isn’t worth it. So I might grr we t the GR Corolla or a s550 mustang
I'm looking at c5 and c6s
I need one for a 97 lt1 z28 Camaro lol
Honestly, unless you're a hardcore Nissan fan, this isn't gonna sell well, and I like this car ffs lol
I love you brother but I think you're missing the point. All Nissan Lovers wanted was another 370Z, just a little newer which is what we got. But the other point is for the modding community. It's a better starting position then the 370Z was! At least it's a Nissan which is a lot more then we can say for this new Subaru which is a BMW😂😂😂😂!
Makes sense
This is just a light weight q60😂 that’s rwd but great and easy hp potential tho but for that price I would just get a 370z throw a single turbo kit on it get about 650-700 to the wheel call it a day
This comment right here!!!
What can I do to a 2007 Monte Carlo???? Help me out with a vid bro
At that price I can buy a used Maserati that’s 400hp 410 TQ AWD or a Bentley or coyote swap a mustang & more
They been doing the same thing with the skyline but that's makes crazy power or can make crazy power
Skyline? Q50? The GT-R isn't a Skyline it's an entirely different model. Which in my opinion (unpopular), the GT-R isn't an R35.
240p is crazy 😂
Something happened with my phone🤦🏾♂️
Ooooooh but it was so much better than the Supra… 🤭🤭🤭🥴🥴🙄
Times repeating itself wars going to end and American cars are going to be cheap which mean big American Power🦅🦅
Aint no way I’m paying a grand for damn Nissan sorry not sorry
U think that’s a lot they gotta 200k Nissan faster than hellcats
@@Opium64 people don’t know about cars lol he probably think a srt is faster then a gtr