Do You Hate Overpens? Well I have The Ship For You!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- I just really like the Colombo and wanted to talk about it more :)
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Colombo's SAP is amazing-until the terrible dispersion makes the experience so frustrating.
16 shells. It has to be any of them hit the target
With 16 guns, you kinda trow shit at the wall until some of it sticks
thank god it has terrible dispersion
The dispersion is so bad I sold it. It's so frustrating.
Imagine Colobom with accuracy, that would be so broken
Oh wait we don't have to imagine, that was Deadeye Colombo.
Italian BB smoke is also useful when you are forced to cap because your DDs are allergic to capping Caps.
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Italian smoke require creativity of yourself and player nearby to make it work
imagine capping a cap and seeing it being contested by enemy, and then your smokes run out and see 1 DD right infront of you lmao
Also i have a Lepanto game where all of our DDs died with in 7min. No one wants to cap so i was forced cap two areas. Good thing our CV was helping me provide air cover and constant spotting of enemy DDs and we win.
"I want these people to be the pallbearers at my funeral, so they can let me down once again"-Vsen in chat the match before this one, fighting pq
Yeah, sometimes the game is just like that :(
@@PotatoQuality it do be like that
You make every ship you play look so OP. Great job and thanks for the excellent content!
Thanks, but not every game I play is this good. One takes are a more realistic look at how my matches usually go.
because of him i tried this ship and it is a very good ship. people always complain about bad dispersion but what do u expect when u throw 16 shells at a target and angling doesnt help at all. u can 20-30k superstructure damage if u know where to hit.
Doesn't range mod slightly increase the accuracy? I'd say that sounds like a good choice for the Colombo
Only slightly, nowhere near as much as Napoli.
@@PotatoQuality Wait, what? How does it increase accuracy? Does it not scale with the usual accuracy function?
A fun ship indeed, but the grind is painfull
Especially V.Venitto
Lepanto is good though
WG only sell T9 and 10. The rest to fill the line is to make people wasting more time
SAP doing only as much as AP to DDs is really fuckign terrible. I get that it'd be quickly op as hell if it did "full" damage to DDs, but come one, it should be at the very least AP + 33% damage to DDs.
Talking about damage. SAP deal a bit more damage than AP and 16 guns turn a bit into a little too high
Perhaps, but the volume of shells on Colombo makes up for it. I’d rather see sap secondaries, combined with 10.7 secondary buff would really hurt dds.
I have mixed feelings towards the Colombo, the SAP is amazing when it connects, but the accuracy really takes it out of you, you can have perfectl aim, target is within 10k, you get a full salvo, and only 2-3 shells hit, and the reload is very painful
Difficult to justify Colombo when Thunderer and Conqueror exist. RN BB HE is much more reliable and consistent than SAP (when fire damage is considered).
What I don't like more is torpedo protection hit. Like literally I played North carolina and shooting a broadsiding myoko at 15km and get 1 hit. Torpedo protection hit. What Why and How
RNG Gods doesn't favor you.
@@jayvee8502 and even moskva at 4km full broadside. WG RNG is too bullshit
@@volknetai.3690 RNG Gods might be thinking you are a German.
Me and my buddy usually division up he plays the Columbo and I play my Thunderer the amount of DMG we put together absolutely melts other ships we focus fire it must be horrific to be on the opposite side of it and that oil smoke on the Columbo is a game changer for your division
1:24 this kind of moment is even rarer than getting camo on the current Summer Sale Event
This thing is soooooo good. Im glad somebody is giving it the love it deserves.
Thank you for the video. I've been thinking about which line to work on and decided Italian BB will be it. How does she working in Rank games?
It’s very good, the smoke let’s you make plays and the sap hurts everything.
Keep up the good work !!! Nice Colombo vid !! I recently got her , one question though RANGE or RELOAD in last slot?
Range for comfort/easier to play, reload for aggression.
@@PotatoQuality Thanks !!!
Have they buffed the Colombo since you made this vid? I LOVE this ship, it is my favorite battleship. I am a fairly new player (tier VII on grind) and have been participating in the Public Tests and why I can play high tier ships. IMO the Colombo is the best battleship. At least the way I play. Sixteen guns are fantastic and i find the dispersion to be pretty good. I use the SAP when ships are bow or stern in only. All other angles and broad side the AP is great. The smoke is nice when healing.
Training to get this ship...at the t6 now🙂
Well, columbo one of the best t10 ship of the game in this video but worth ship in your T10 Battleships Tier List. Mmmhhhh.....
This is why the game is so campy now, because all the youtubers kiting away from objectives 3 & 3/4 minutes into the battle. Looks just lie Asia server now.
I run full secondary build on my CC, without Sansonetti (he is on Venezia). Using fuel smoke to get in close, when secondaries open fire, it's all fun.
I feel like the 360 turrets are probably more valuable than the fuel smoke, being able to change angle but still show guns when dualing with bbs with a 24-34 seconds reload is pretty nice
Played the ship a couple times when grand battle was still in the pts, and I was blown away at how nasty it is at close range.
Having 16 guns might have had a part in that, but sap on that many guns is just disgusting. For the enemy, anyway.
Additionally, Sansonetti on this ship, if played well, makes this ship even nastier.
People complaining about dispersion, but I grinded German BB…..any dispersion is better
Just got Colombo last night and dear god it's good. The 360 degree turrets make it so good
That might indeed be a Tilia, hard to say from this distance. Indigenous to most of Europe.
The last time I was this early, submarine hadn’t started testing yet
I have a question the mod that shows the angle of the ships I have that but how do you move it to the left and the right
It fires as if there is a huge Italian argument going on inside the turrets as to which is truly the angle to shoot. Lots of hand waving and cursing.
You know what I hate? full pens that only deal overpen damage. So blah.
The summer event is pretty stupid you shouldn’t have to spend so much money for the the little stuff you get.
i do hope this comes to legends
Exactly the reasons why Colombo is prrty much the only bb I play anymore
I couldn't believe the enemy Midway only had 421 dmg.
That's XP not damage.
in Colombo instead of overpens i usualy get non pens (rng hates me)
World of Overpens, Floating Casino Edition
Sap is trash i use ap and in a match i managed to chunk 30k on a kansas 2 citadels in a hit
I was on the fence on grinding the Italian battleships but this put me over the edge. Thanks!
The grind sucks, but this is a really good ship
VSen is attached to the Salem at the hip I swear.
overpens are the bain of my existence! cruisers are hard enough to hit at all with bb dispersion but when you hit them 5 times and do 3k or so dmg while theyre MELTING you with he, its just rage inducing
Have Veneto, very beautiful BB but guns horrible! I can't citadel Full broadside Aoba at 11 km... Everytime over pen... İt's boring
I had the Weird Al song ‘Addicted To Spuds’ in my head as I clicked this thumbnail…
“Might as well face it, I’m addicted to SAP…”
PQ, you say that smoke is powerful on those ships and had to be a part of balancing, but look at Marco Polo. That one doesn't get smoke and still has horrible reload, poor range, poor concealment... The SAP was clearly the only thing that WG was balancing around and that's why so many of these Italian BBs are meh at best
Hands down one of my Top 2 favorite BBs
Hey what are ur thoughts on pan asian dd commander skills? I have prevent maintinance, last stand, torp reload, AR, concealment, was thinking of going for eother going for torp speed or surv expert, or superintendent. the cap is lvl 13 currentlly with no left over points.
Fuck sap man, it's busted and completely op. What we need is a REAL fix to the severe desync so that shells actually register where they land. No more of this monstrosity, makes mino ap look balanced instead of balanSed
These is similar to Vermont the Ships are awesome but the Grind oh man I can't think about it.
The Pain is very much after the Dead eye is gone.
I just dev strike a full life Austin with Colombo sap and did more than 30k in one salvo. Absolutely hilarious
As annoying overpens are, we need them or light cruisers are unplayable. Maybe battleship overpens should have a much higher chance to cause incapacitations to engines or something to compensate and reward the battleships.
So Potato, are you some sort of tree vampire?
Yoi hate citadells? Shoot more sap
Really loving the ship. Fastest TX grind I've done so far and quickly approaching Yamato as the most played TX. Please keep saying it is one of the best BBs, especially when my clan mate Adalbert is around :)
Should I take luigi off venezia for this?
Only if you want to play ita BBs. Luigi is important for his Gun Feeder (75%), for switching fast from SAP to AP. If you don't intent to grind for Colombo, then don't.
@@trindamere63 I have both. But I think you are right that venezia uses ap situationally more.
He’s amazing on both. I use him on Colombo because I play that ship more. You should put him on whichever ship you play more.
@@PotatoQuality yeah he's probably too good. I wish we could assign a captain to one tech tree ship for each class. Those of us with hundreds of ships and captains wouldn't have to spend hours respeccing each balance pass. Anyway, Thanks for the videos. The "first take" series has been great.
Sap is the premium ammo in wows, just like heat and apcr in wot. And all of us can't wait for a russian SAP ship.
Oh damn - picture in picture editing? Look at the production quality! Great vid PQ
60k XP to go for me to get the Colombo. The decrease in maneuverability from the Veneto to Lepanto was disappointing but the 360 turrets on the Colombo should make up for that. Smoke works nice to get in position for a full AP salvo on a enemy broadside below 10km and then shoot when you've made your turn and are angling away
I really like that is different from other BBs and this smoke is fan lots of unusual plays that otherwise will get you killed.
Can you share what mods you use?
okay but real question is, what's the name of that team damage mod? I can't seem to find that one anywhere :\
why do you have the 50% shell change speed when you never change off of SAP :P
Italian battleships are weird. It takes like a lot of damage. It is the only BB line that I consistently use up all the 5 heals!
I love when PQ use the word "amazing" instead "OP" :D
Over pen always better than missing the target completely due to shitty dispersion
2:50 In Asia when you hold the weak flank, the strong side will collapse for no reason
so sad Italians have bad range so we spend coal on overpriced container to get Sansonetti :(
ive struggled to get impactful games in the ship :( i did better with the tier 9.
teamplay , wait thats illegal
Does range mod fix the dispersion problem like Napoli?
the reload time of those ships frustrate me when someone gets close and you cant do much to their side or react fast enough
First comment
400th 👍 😜
i have it i like it
Cool tree tho
Talk about the summer sale event if it even is one :(
Nice round!! Like that SAP.
First lol. Colombo rocks! I play here often!
For the record, the Royal Navy considered SAP largely to have been a waste of time and decided they'd have been better with normal HE and APC. Pretty ironic when you consider the absurd power of RN BB's HE in this game, isn't it? In fact, why would you not simply be better off with Thunderer?
Meanwhile, the whole "over-pen" mechanic is largely a load of bullshit. BB main gun v DD? Sure, possible.
Against anything else? Largely not. The 'infamous' USN super-heavy 16" AP round needed to encounter resistance equivalent to a mere 1.5"/38mm of armour for its fuse to be activated. Even with a DD, it would be activated. The issue there is it's likely to pass through before exploding due to the maths of the fuse delay x striking velocity of the shell compared with the width of the target, depending how much the shell was slowed as it travelled from point of impact. But even so, it would almost certainly activate.
You know where over-pens WERE more common? When an AP round strikes an unarmoured superstructure. Think Bismarck 15" going through the bridge of HMS Prince of Wales, for example (it was the shock wave of the impact plus splintering of the unarmoured structure that wiped out the bridge crew, not the shell itself exploding).
It's fair to say the "kill that BB with spamming its superstructure" is insultingly and stupidly inaccurate in TWO respects. One that it would kill a BB at all, 2 that an enemy BB could do monster damage with its AP against the enemy superstructure.
So much nonsense in this game. Wouldn't care except it crops up in fora of games that are meant to be much more realistic and people think they know what they're on about due to the garbage they 'learn' in this game.
Overpowered and low skill floor high tier BB... Nothing new to see here. Status quo for WG and the data doesnt lie. Overpens are a valid balancing mechanic and armor profiles exist for a reason. The very expectation that as a BB player that you should be able to annihilate a Cruiser with the click of a button at med to long ranges that shows any kind of broadside is a joke in of itself and shows how flagrantly ignorant the Wows community (and wg) are to the fundamentals for balanced gameplay.
"Bad dispersion" compared to what? Other BBs of the same tiers which have highly overtuned accuracy? Comparative analysis failure.
SAP in of itself is imbalanced because it invalidates most armor profiles and skilled positioning/angling. One of the many ways CVs are broken as well as is the mass amounts of overmatch
I mean we have DDs at tier 10 without access to things like smoke and even without SB but BBs with radar... Smoke.. and even SB are a thing.
“Skilled positioning” -> flat broadside to a bb
whilst i agree there's an argument to be made that sap is unfair, my point would be that it only feels so good because regular AP is unpredictable. If i a cruiser positions poorly and shows you broadside for the entire 10-15 second shell time, then you deserve to be punished. when cruisers can island hop comfortably or sit in smokes and battleships have long windows wherein they effectively do nothing (long reload times), you should expect cruiser captains to be situationally aware of incoming fire and to be dodging accordingly.
i play both cruisers and BB's. when i play my mainz, provided i remain aware of incoming shells (easy to do with captain skills), i can more often than not take absolutely no damage from battleships whilst landing multiple salvos in return. what can they do in return? i know they're going to shoot every 30 seconds. i know all i need to do is turn out or in and they'll miss. It's fundamentally unfair when even if they manage to land shells despite how easy they are to dodge, they often get nothing but overpens.
The only frustrating mechanic to do with bb's at the moment are those random shells that pen your bow or stern and citadel you while you're angled. I'd like to see the game reinforce proper angling by reducing overmatch and decreasing the likelihood of those random bow/stern citadells. that way, people who fail to angle and sail about like idiots showing full broadside get punished as they should, and those who position correctly and angle properly aren't punished unfairly.
To complain about battleship accuracy as you have is just absurd. battleships being too accurate is absolutely not a problem in the game right now.
@@underviv64 Either you completely failed to read what I wrote or are purposefully committing a strawman.
@@matsab7930 1.) SAP is unfair, especially on BBs as is further reduces an already bottom of the barrel skill floor. Whilst the overall balance in WoWs is as bad as you can possibly get, comparable even to being on the opposite end of the spectrum from balanced gameplay, there are some mechanics which are present in game that do offer some measure of fairness. SAP ignores these mechanics pretty much completely, especially on BB caliber guns. and yes. Cruisers should be punished for sitting broadside to a **Close-Mid** range BB who is also presenting risk NOT a BB at 20km+ who can sit unspotted at will either presenting no risk at all or very little.
2.) The data is very clear that BBs are overperforming as a ship type at high tiers. This fact has not changed since 2015. Even the contextual evidence substantiates it, including the ruleset and win conditions set forth by WG themselves. The cause for this overperformance is most undoubtedly a combination of overtuned long range accuracy, overmatch, and concealment values. This can also be proven with the data as there have been both direct and sweeping accuracy buffs effecting BBs since that time. BBs are and have been Low risk : High reward at high tiers. This is factually contradictory to the foundational requirement for balanced gameplay to exist. Are they as bad as say... CVs? No. Another causal element is the lack of a direct counter. DDs as a ship type have been underperforming at high tiers for just as long as well and anything that can even effectively deter BBs has been nerfed subsequently. Flooding is a good example. Torps were already underpowered for a weapon type, thus flooding was as well, yet it was nerfed. Additionally the data being very clear that pretty much the ONLY DDs ever to satisfy both the performance trends within the balance range and the proper counter attribute weight, were also subsequently nerfed despite being balanced, despite factually not overperforming in any way. These are your Khaba when it was released, and the Yue Yang.
Where as your say...Smaland is unbalanced for different reasoning. Whilst its performance trends are well within the balance range, its counter attribute weight is not aligned with a proper balance model. It has too much attribute weight at countering internally (other DDs) and too weak against non-DDs.
@@sageboat1223 I’m just fucking With you. I still think anything broadside should get blapped when a big ass shell slaps it
More than with an over pen
I don’t think bbs have a fun time in the current game but I’m not playing anymore
You should relax tho my friend. It’s only a game and your thoughts of balance will never change anything sadly
It’s a lost fight. I used to live playing wot and wows and it’s just better daily without them
The Italian line is the 1 line I don't do well. All my captains are still under 10 skill points except my Unique Captain Sansonetti. I just have so much trouble with the ships. Even the Leone stinks!
Hey PQ, great video as always! What is your opinion about Marco Polo? Seems like a good credit farmer with Sansonetti. I'm more of a cruiser player but really enjoy playing Conqueror with mostly AP and legendary module.
I don’t like MP, the poor dispersion and bad survivability make it rough to play.
@@PotatoQuality I see, thank you! Guess I should wait for another Italian premium T8-10 then