For those of you who are also heavily invested in esports I’m sure most of what I say here isn’t very groundbreaking, but this video is intended more so for those who aren’t too familiar with esports culture :^) also if they have one of these in the US I would definitely try to get in lol
I was expecting something along the abyss competitions, you know the ones where they have 2 identical accounts and a pick and ban system like in league. I can see that working tbh
@@Vizible21 but what make it interesting is how the team know each other weaknesses to ban the character And how the other team overcome that weakness and come up with a unique way to use what they got For example, one time, a team used the wolf boss hitbox to make Noelle jumps high enough, allowing her to perform a plunging attack continually I doubt meta slave, whales or normal player can come up with this technique
@@mazzybyte9444 I hope more people do a video on that tournament Tenten's analyzing on it is kinda bad imo There is a channel I watch that did a much better job than Tenten and it make the experience watching the tournament feel much better. Unfortunately, that channel doesn't speak English
I don't think Mihoyo will support it, esports is overrated because it doesn't affect the vast majority of players. This happens in the RTS game genre too, most players care more about a good single-player campaign than an active esports/competitive balance. What genshin needs the most imo is some repeatable co-op content, like co-op raids. Right now there's nothing to do in co-op after you've outgrown the overworld. Why co-op? because co-op naturally has much higher replayability since the players can be the content. Groups can definitely make a competition out of genshin gameplay, just like how one can adjust rules in a board game to make them more competitive. Maybe Mihoyo will add QoL that will make grassroots genshin competititions easier, most notably, constellation toggling, and evergreen difficult content.
The RTS was too hardcore for the casuals of this gen thats why its a dead genre And dont ever compare a godly genre like RTS to some gambling mobile casino garbage
Some of the most advanced genshin "esports" Tournaments ive seen comes from genshin republic, an indonesian genshin community. They do their tournaments weekly and the more money youve spent on your account the more handicaps are put on you so that the fight is more even
The 4 games look like something I'd actually watch. I also have doubts on Genshin as an esport, but this looks like a great start for something. Thanks for introducing this to us!
I though the whole Genshin Olympics was a joke created by CC. But seeing this, it's an smart way for Hoyoverse to expand GI and their other games. I wonder this could inspire the Devs to create an PVP or an actual olympics such as Creative Engine on the new patches.
A few PvP minigames would be really nice. Straight out fighting the other player seems like a bad idea, imagine fighting against a perma freeze team...
Gotta hand it to Hoyoverse to always deliver less Primogems than what's probably warranted no matter the situation lol. First place getting a whopping 2000 primogems is hilariously low for players that are competing like this and technically helping advertise your game, not really concerned about the real money reward, just that those low primogem amounts hurt to hear. Add a 0 to the ends of all those numbers, HYV,, it costs you nothing lol.
I really like the collecting items event, it tests your knowledge on the game on the locations of the items, you also strategize what each member should prioritize since you only have limited time.
genshin has a lot of competitive contents. they could make anything as a competition. ofc it would be fun to see players competing to catch crystalflies on mobile.
Not really. Unless there is a specialized build that allows more control over the random options (read Artifact stats and substats), there really can't be.
Personally I just don't see the appeal of watching this as a competitive sport. It just reminds me of those minecraft youtuber competitions where they play minigames like bingo and have mild amounts of pvp peppered in. I wouldn't consider that esports nor would I consider this genshin equivalent esports.
How about the competition made by the CN community that Tenten sometimes covers? IIRC they are speedrunning the abyss (which changes every patch so at least tactics must be changed every patch) where each team will ban a character from being used and pick characters exclusive to their team. I think if Hoyoverse wants to make a possible esports competition for GI, they have to put a permanent content in the game that allows this. Like maybe multiple game types wherein *you have points at the start of the run and use those points to buy characters, constellations, weapons, refinement on weapons, artifacts with chosen stats (more points for better stats).* This way, everyone are in the same playing field and doubles as a new way of testing characters at their maximum potential which might tempt some to swipe that card. Game types could be something like an infinite mob spawner wherein they will be swarmed with infinite mobs until they die and be ranked by mobs killed. Another one would be an abyss run where they will be ranked by total time spent and number of floors cleared. When ported into a competition, just allow teams to deny their opponents with characters and weapons by banning them or choosing them first like in the CN competiton.
No because gacha. Unless all accounts have the same characters, weapons, and constellations, there is no perfectly fair way to balance competitors. Of course there could be a tiered system, where people are separated into classes based on how much money they've spent. Speaking of esports, there have been Genshin competitions like the CN Genshin Championship that demonstrate how a competition could work.
The gacha part is actually the easiest problem to solve. The game already has a way to give trial characters with presets so a mode where you can only use trial characters would overcome that issue.
Interesting way they have that set up. It'd be cool to see it spread to other areas as well, but it's not a sustainable way of doing things and there can only be official events because of the provided accounts
i kinda have a feeling that this event is somewhat promotional only or hoyo is trying to find out how the community react to this event regarding how casual genshin is to be come part of a competitive esports,to give them insight how to let the game grow knowing majority of the genshin community are demanding for more end game content,and whether to actually add a competitive content. well this is just my opinion. and best regards to hoyo on this upcoming event
I've watched esports before without even playing the game and I find it pretty fun bc of their combat and how they make strategies how to beat the other contestants but I can't see myself watching genshin esports unless it's the CN tournament bc it's not exciting at all except the boss rush
the first one is a joke because of how low the exp you gain is second one looks like the obstacle race you have in anime schools bridge making is a good idea on paper but I can guarantee it will be boring to watch boss rush looks cool but the entertainment value depends on how much big brain the competitors have(no offence but it is what it is) also why there is no cn style abyss run tournament wtf
The collection one would be so easy for the people who grind mats all day The boss rush is definitely the one members need to actually work together cooperatively (if the boss rush is in coop with other members) Since with enough teamwork you can finish a 15~ ish second setup in just like 2
Well yeah, I was expecting no, like bruv even GTA V Online as an esports would be more believable than this, I was honestly shocked when they announced it since Genshin is a game that does not strike me as “competitive”. Games that are made to be sports are supposed to have mastery of complicated fundamentals. For example, in Valorant, you have to master crosshair placement, footwork, shooting angles and whatever utility that your agent character has in store. In Tekken or other beatdown fighting games, you need to learn movement frames, evasive moves, punishes and most of all, the knowledge of when to use a certain move, or in short words, fundamentals. Now you could argue that there is some form of what I’m trying to describe could be found in genshin, which is team comps (1dps, 1subdps, 1buffer and 1healer). Still, even though this mechanic exists, it still pales in comparison of the mastery difficulty of the likes of Valorant and Tekken or other games that are revered e-sports brands. All you have to do in order to master a team comp in genshin is just to press buttons and you’ll be fine. Also, genshin has the format of a goddamn hunter game, like Monster Hunter, FF or God Eater, and those games don’t have the format of a PvP game.
This is one of the stupidest ideas MHY or any has ever had. Can't make any actual content for the game, so shit that content creators have been doing for, going on, 2 years is their idea of an Esport...when will people learn from Blizzard that you CANNOT force an Esport? This thing is so dead on arrival it already has an obituary.
Mobile gamer cant use their brain You think mentally ill people are capable of doing such a basic thing? Chinese gamer are truly the bottom barrel rock bottom of gaming 🤣 At least BLIZZARD did it with a MMO but here its a gambling trash mobile casino
A few tournament I watched from streamers in my country is timed boss fights. One I remember is, the streamer joined the participants' world and provide resonance only, then the participant fight a boss alone. The participant uses Hu Tao and Xingqiu and manage to beat the Wolf Lord within 30-35 seconds mark. They have a few restriction like, only one of the participants character is 5* and the 5* can't be more than C2 and only one of them can use 5* weapon. Though in finals they were allowed food buffs but the elimination is fun too
Thanks for sharing ^ This will be the first genshin tournament so I'll be looking closely to it. For that I'm interested but it could turn out boring when the time comes who knows
wow, these are pointless. Like seriousy though, they can just use spiral abbyss with some restriction and banning phase lol. it would be more fun and players need to think hard to make a team without bennet and using random characters
the "lumine vs aether" challenge in china is honestly very enjoyable for me. it follow the LOL format where the 2 team get to ban character on each other team in an abyss run as well as mandate certain character to be included in the team. this force player to develop "off meta" comp on the fly and the most interesting bit is to see how popular held believes about the meta may actually be wrong. ie how effective dragon tale may actually be in a non meta team. I don't think sport has to be competitive to be interesting, the strategic and drama like intentionally banning a character you know a player is strong in make for great entertainment. as for the question about accessibility of competitive account, really the main issue is random stat, if we are provided with "substat less" set that you can build or are rewarded as achivement, these set will be less powerful than the roll set, but they would give everyone the same stat to train on for competition. so I see it as doable if MHY is interested to support it. the character trial set are without substat, so MHY do have a benchmark artifact set in their asset.
Actually, the game mode that's most interesting to me is the one where resources are gathered. Its kinda like the real life niche sport orienteering, and is very different skillset wise to most e sports require, as it makes positional awareness, and optimizing exploration the emphasis, rather than it being secondary to mechanic skill. And it also capitalizes on Genshin's unique niche of being an open world game. Its not the most visually exciting mode, but I'm definitely interested to see how it can be optimized.
My university has a Genshin impact society and monthly they hold competitions where ppl/ teams are given a set amount of time to complete particular tasks ie. defeat a hydro abyss mage using only phys auto attacks, defeat andrius w only cryo and anemo
I actually thought abt it and think that a certain kind of time based competition would be better sort of like abyss the team with the most time left remaining wins.also there would be a list of enemies which would be provided which gives the players opportunity to practice with their own characters
can't believe so little ppl know about the abyss competitions with picks and bans that are done in china, they're really fun imo. tenten did videos about them to inform our community bc it's from CN, so that's cool
what about speed run spiral abyss, the genshin chinese community has a good job of making those competitions. they have ban pick, a restriction like 5* has less that 2 constellations 5* weapons less than 2 refines all of the team artifacts point are less than 200, etc. , they even has a free swap for whichever character is on that banner
For those of you who are also heavily invested in esports I’m sure most of what I say here isn’t very groundbreaking, but this video is intended more so for those who aren’t too familiar with esports culture :^)
also if they have one of these in the US I would definitely try to get in lol
I was expecting something along the abyss competitions, you know the ones where they have 2 identical accounts and a pick and ban system like in league. I can see that working tbh
theres actually a chinese genshin tournament that does this! i've seen tenten make a couple videos on it but im not sure where else you'd watch it
@@mazzybyte9444 yeah that's where I saw this for the first time and it was pretty fun to watch
@@LILXXIV maybe if you watch it for like 1 or 2 times. That will get boring way too easily given the fact that you are against bots.
@@Vizible21 but what make it interesting is how the team know each other weaknesses to ban the character
And how the other team overcome that weakness and come up with a unique way to use what they got
For example, one time, a team used the wolf boss hitbox to make Noelle jumps high enough, allowing her to perform a plunging attack continually
I doubt meta slave, whales or normal player can come up with this technique
@@mazzybyte9444 I hope more people do a video on that tournament
Tenten's analyzing on it is kinda bad imo
There is a channel I watch that did a much better job than Tenten and it make the experience watching the tournament feel much better. Unfortunately, that channel doesn't speak English
I don't think Mihoyo will support it, esports is overrated because it doesn't affect the vast majority of players. This happens in the RTS game genre too, most players care more about a good single-player campaign than an active esports/competitive balance. What genshin needs the most imo is some repeatable co-op content, like co-op raids. Right now there's nothing to do in co-op after you've outgrown the overworld. Why co-op? because co-op naturally has much higher replayability since the players can be the content.
Groups can definitely make a competition out of genshin gameplay, just like how one can adjust rules in a board game to make them more competitive. Maybe Mihoyo will add QoL that will make grassroots genshin competititions easier, most notably, constellation toggling, and evergreen difficult content.
Mihoyo has supported this. They created this.
The RTS was too hardcore for the casuals of this gen thats why its a dead genre
And dont ever compare a godly genre like RTS to some gambling mobile casino garbage
Speedrunning failing 50/50 to Qi-Qi is a national sport, and I'm a fucking champion.
Some of the most advanced genshin "esports" Tournaments ive seen comes from genshin republic, an indonesian genshin community. They do their tournaments weekly and the more money youve spent on your account the more handicaps are put on you so that the fight is more even
Thats the peak of esport for you?
Lmao i can tell you started gaming last year 😂😂😂
The 4 games look like something I'd actually watch. I also have doubts on Genshin as an esport, but this looks like a great start for something. Thanks for introducing this to us!
No. It's not a start for nothing. It will die as it came to life, being a joke.
I though the whole Genshin Olympics was a joke created by CC. But seeing this, it's an smart way for Hoyoverse to expand GI and their other games. I wonder this could inspire the Devs to create an PVP or an actual olympics such as Creative Engine on the new patches.
A few PvP minigames would be really nice. Straight out fighting the other player seems like a bad idea, imagine fighting against a perma freeze team...
Gotta hand it to Hoyoverse to always deliver less Primogems than what's probably warranted no matter the situation lol. First place getting a whopping 2000 primogems is hilariously low for players that are competing like this and technically helping advertise your game, not really concerned about the real money reward, just that those low primogem amounts hurt to hear.
Add a 0 to the ends of all those numbers, HYV,, it costs you nothing lol.
I really like the collecting items event, it tests your knowledge on the game on the locations of the items, you also strategize what each member should prioritize since you only have limited time.
Yeah who would want a collecting mints eSports? Omegalul
genshin has a lot of competitive contents.
they could make anything as a competition.
ofc it would be fun to see players competing to catch crystalflies on mobile.
its rlly not that hard when you have a high end device
me with sayu: *I see this as an absolute win*
Personally, I want this event to go well because I want them to bring one to the US. It sounds like fun regardless
#TeamTeppei
Not really. Unless there is a specialized build that allows more control over the random options (read Artifact stats and substats), there really can't be.
Literally the only thing this would affect is the collection challenge for monster drops plus they can just use the trial character system.
amber kaeya one sounds pretty fun
Personally I just don't see the appeal of watching this as a competitive sport. It just reminds me of those minecraft youtuber competitions where they play minigames like bingo and have mild amounts of pvp peppered in. I wouldn't consider that esports nor would I consider this genshin equivalent esports.
Mobile gamer prove once again how stupid they are
Thinking a PvE game can have an esport 🤣🤣
How about the competition made by the CN community that Tenten sometimes covers? IIRC they are speedrunning the abyss (which changes every patch so at least tactics must be changed every patch) where each team will ban a character from being used and pick characters exclusive to their team.
I think if Hoyoverse wants to make a possible esports competition for GI, they have to put a permanent content in the game that allows this. Like maybe multiple game types wherein *you have points at the start of the run and use those points to buy characters, constellations, weapons, refinement on weapons, artifacts with chosen stats (more points for better stats).* This way, everyone are in the same playing field and doubles as a new way of testing characters at their maximum potential which might tempt some to swipe that card. Game types could be something like an infinite mob spawner wherein they will be swarmed with infinite mobs until they die and be ranked by mobs killed. Another one would be an abyss run where they will be ranked by total time spent and number of floors cleared. When ported into a competition, just allow teams to deny their opponents with characters and weapons by banning them or choosing them first like in the CN competiton.
No because gacha. Unless all accounts have the same characters, weapons, and constellations, there is no perfectly fair way to balance competitors. Of course there could be a tiered system, where people are separated into classes based on how much money they've spent. Speaking of esports, there have been Genshin competitions like the CN Genshin Championship that demonstrate how a competition could work.
The gacha part is actually the easiest problem to solve. The game already has a way to give trial characters with presets so a mode where you can only use trial characters would overcome that issue.
Did you even watch the video?
People are given accounts/characters with pre-built
Its not esport if you can't PvP
Mobile gamers have no brain😂😂
Interesting way they have that set up. It'd be cool to see it spread to other areas as well, but it's not a sustainable way of doing things and there can only be official events because of the provided accounts
Bruh, so no spiral abyss like the CN tournaments? Why...
i kinda have a feeling that this event is somewhat promotional only or hoyo is trying to find out how the community react to this event regarding how casual genshin is to be come part of a competitive esports,to give them insight how to let the game grow knowing majority of the genshin community are demanding for more end game content,and whether to actually add a competitive content.
well this is just my opinion.
and best regards to hoyo on this upcoming event
I've watched esports before without even playing the game and I find it pretty fun bc of their combat and how they make strategies how to beat the other contestants but I can't see myself watching genshin esports unless it's the CN tournament bc it's not exciting at all except the boss rush
Short answer without me even watching the video : no..... ( I will watch it of course)
No
let's be real, genshin isn't created for that
if you want real competitive game
just play another game instead
when i saw the announcement, imagined it would look like the one thats already around. abyss with limitations, but these are just party games
Is mayonnaise an E-sport?
the first one is a joke because of how low the exp you gain is
second one looks like the obstacle race you have in anime schools
bridge making is a good idea on paper but I can guarantee it will be boring to watch
boss rush looks cool but the entertainment value depends on how much big brain the competitors have(no offence but it is what it is)
also why there is no cn style abyss run tournament wtf
If this becomes an esport it would be the most boring crap ever.
P.S: Except the last one could be entertaining.
If this introduces local tournaments then I’m all for it
The collection one would be so easy for the people who grind mats all day
The boss rush is definitely the one members need to actually work together cooperatively (if the boss rush is in coop with other members) Since with enough teamwork you can finish a 15~ ish second setup in just like 2
This is not esports. This is a joke. Stop overhyping it, noone will watch it and it will never happen again.
PVP could work if the characters were capped at 50 and only got to use janky weapons like the bell or debate club
Well yeah, I was expecting no, like bruv even GTA V Online as an esports would be more believable than this, I was honestly shocked when they announced it since Genshin is a game that does not strike me as “competitive”. Games that are made to be sports are supposed to have mastery of complicated fundamentals. For example, in Valorant, you have to master crosshair placement, footwork, shooting angles and whatever utility that your agent character has in store. In Tekken or other beatdown fighting games, you need to learn movement frames, evasive moves, punishes and most of all, the knowledge of when to use a certain move, or in short words, fundamentals. Now you could argue that there is some form of what I’m trying to describe could be found in genshin, which is team comps (1dps, 1subdps, 1buffer and 1healer). Still, even though this mechanic exists, it still pales in comparison of the mastery difficulty of the likes of Valorant and Tekken or other games that are revered e-sports brands. All you have to do in order to master a team comp in genshin is just to press buttons and you’ll be fine. Also, genshin has the format of a goddamn hunter game, like Monster Hunter, FF or God Eater, and those games don’t have the format of a PvP game.
still cant believe the laughably small primo prizes.
it's funny how stingy they are with primos that you get more money in pounds than primos
eevrythign in this game is RNG how do you mak somthign RNG competitive
POV: You're looking for the games in the comment section.
A bit late like 2 months late. Nope I don't see it. Genshin does not come off competitive.
As a eSports trainee I find that genshin as an eSports is a disgrace to the term eSports
Short answer: no
Long answer: no because it's p2w and rng. so no.
Genshin becomes the next SFV or Overwatch?
Hhhh....no thanks....
hoyoverse should learn from other pvp battle games
This is one of the stupidest ideas MHY or any has ever had.
Can't make any actual content for the game, so shit that content creators have been doing for, going on, 2 years is their idea of an Esport...when will people learn from Blizzard that you CANNOT force an Esport?
This thing is so dead on arrival it already has an obituary.
Mobile gamer cant use their brain
You think mentally ill people are capable of doing such a basic thing?
Chinese gamer are truly the bottom barrel rock bottom of gaming 🤣
At least BLIZZARD did it with a MMO but here its a gambling trash mobile casino
A few tournament I watched from streamers in my country is timed boss fights. One I remember is, the streamer joined the participants' world and provide resonance only, then the participant fight a boss alone. The participant uses Hu Tao and Xingqiu and manage to beat the Wolf Lord within 30-35 seconds mark. They have a few restriction like, only one of the participants character is 5* and the 5* can't be more than C2 and only one of them can use 5* weapon. Though in finals they were allowed food buffs but the elimination is fun too
Jesse what the hell are you talking about
hey guys
Thanks for sharing ^
This will be the first genshin tournament so I'll be looking closely to it. For that I'm interested but it could turn out boring when the time comes who knows
wow, these are pointless.
Like seriousy though, they can just use spiral abbyss with some restriction and banning phase lol. it would be more fun and players need to think hard to make a team without bennet and using random characters
the "lumine vs aether" challenge in china is honestly very enjoyable for me. it follow the LOL format where the 2 team get to ban character on each other team in an abyss run as well as mandate certain character to be included in the team. this force player to develop "off meta" comp on the fly and the most interesting bit is to see how popular held believes about the meta may actually be wrong. ie how effective dragon tale may actually be in a non meta team. I don't think sport has to be competitive to be interesting, the strategic and drama like intentionally banning a character you know a player is strong in make for great entertainment.
as for the question about accessibility of competitive account, really the main issue is random stat, if we are provided with "substat less" set that you can build or are rewarded as achivement, these set will be less powerful than the roll set, but they would give everyone the same stat to train on for competition. so I see it as doable if MHY is interested to support it. the character trial set are without substat, so MHY do have a benchmark artifact set in their asset.
Well This eSports looks worthless
You have to be kidding.
0:40 oh wow what is this F2Pain?
I know someone in a team who just qualified from my university. I wish them good luck!
Hopefully it won't
2:15 Will Bennet be C5?
They just created this for fun i dont think they will make an effort
Imagine seeing Max Zeng from the Imperial College team...
read the title as Can Genshin Impact Become an Escort?
The Kaeya Vs Amber is gonna be so unfair...
No
It could be if they made it harder
No
Actually, the game mode that's most interesting to me is the one where resources are gathered. Its kinda like the real life niche sport orienteering, and is very different skillset wise to most e sports require, as it makes positional awareness, and optimizing exploration the emphasis, rather than it being secondary to mechanic skill. And it also capitalizes on Genshin's unique niche of being an open world game. Its not the most visually exciting mode, but I'm definitely interested to see how it can be optimized.
Am, no. It's a joke.
My university has a Genshin impact society and monthly they hold competitions where ppl/ teams are given a set amount of time to complete particular tasks ie. defeat a hydro abyss mage using only phys auto attacks, defeat andrius w only cryo and anemo
That's cringe.
No
I actually thought abt it and think that a certain kind of time based competition would be better sort of like abyss the team with the most time left remaining wins.also there would be a list of enemies which would be provided which gives the players opportunity to practice with their own characters
I'm sure whales will still dominate for sure. They have experienced every character combination possible.
This is not that type of tournament.
i dont think this will stick i woudlt even watch it unless theres slike some streamer i follow that i could be interested in
can't believe so little ppl know about the abyss competitions with picks and bans that are done in china, they're really fun imo. tenten did videos about them to inform our community bc it's from CN, so that's cool
They are not a valid form of esports. Gachas are not esports. You can't put a pick and ban phase in a gacha.
what about speed run spiral abyss, the genshin chinese community has a good job of making those competitions. they have ban pick, a restriction like 5* has less that 2 constellations 5* weapons less than 2 refines all of the team artifacts point are less than 200, etc. , they even has a free swap for whichever character is on that banner
Joke of a competition for whales.
Chinese people are truly the bottom barrel of gaming 🤣🤣