Why Does Saudi Arabia Keep Bailing Out Lucid?

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • Lucid Motors is an electric vehicle start-up that went public by merging with a SPAC in 2021. Their vehicle sales have massively underperformed expectations and they're losing money at an alarming rate. Despite this, the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund continues to pump billions of dollars into the company.
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  • @cpm1003
    @cpm1003 Месяц назад +754

    This is still probably a better investment than their "line" city.

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 Месяц назад +94

      Burning stacks of $100 bills, to heat your home, is a better investment than "Line" city.

    • @NerreraFightStories
      @NerreraFightStories Месяц назад +29

      Go read the Wall Street Journal article that came out yesterday on 'The Line' if you haven't, its so much worse than you think

    • @maximusasauluk7359
      @maximusasauluk7359 Месяц назад

      I think investing in a bucket of shit for profit returns, is a better investment than "The Line". I mean, what were they smoking before coming up with the worst idea this planet has ever seen, even the dinosaurs are rolling in their graves.

    • @fraserthomson5766
      @fraserthomson5766 Месяц назад +4

      City or prison?

    • @allhailderpfestor4839
      @allhailderpfestor4839 Месяц назад +7

      ​@NerreraFightStories not really. Every1 who cared already knew this shit is straight up impossible (at least not in proposed scale).
      Can't get "worse than you think" if you knew its already rock bottom worst case.

  • @YourFinanceGuide
    @YourFinanceGuide Месяц назад +1021

    Saudi Arabia is allergic to making good investments outside Saudi Aramco.

    • @TheAnonymous4545
      @TheAnonymous4545 Месяц назад

      That's what happens when everyone making decisions got their jobs because their dad gave it to them

    • @shadowpat810
      @shadowpat810 Месяц назад +153

      Aramco isn't really an investment, it's their source of income

    • @vk45de54
      @vk45de54 Месяц назад +127

      lol, Aramco is a cheat code and that's the only reason it's successful.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад +13

      Saudi Aramco is foreign operated and is losing money

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад

      ​@@shadowpat810*human cash cow

  • @FishBola1991
    @FishBola1991 Месяц назад +570

    For a company called Lucid they seem to be dreaming.

    • @bossman4749
      @bossman4749 Месяц назад +14

      😂😂😂 good one

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Месяц назад +17

      And not lucid dreaming either

    • @BaybieK
      @BaybieK Месяц назад +7

      Or having Lucid Dreams 😊

    • @hollowgonzalo4329
      @hollowgonzalo4329 Месяц назад +2

      @FishBola1991
      Such a generic cookie cutter naming scheme they have.

    • @DirkusTurkess
      @DirkusTurkess Месяц назад +3

      Badum tish.

  • @PXAbstraction
    @PXAbstraction Месяц назад +471

    "By merging with a SPAC." Take a drink!

    • @duran9664
      @duran9664 Месяц назад +7

      Or SABIC
      the saudi petrochemical giant company 🤷‍♀️

    • @anonymoususer1824
      @anonymoususer1824 Месяц назад

      😅

    • @av_oid
      @av_oid Месяц назад +2

      @@duran9664They bought that, they didn’t build it.

    • @tfatutors
      @tfatutors Месяц назад

      JUST AS BAD A FRAUD AS DJT

    • @begcoins
      @begcoins Месяц назад

      It went crazy

  • @benchoflemons398
    @benchoflemons398 Месяц назад +218

    Because not funding lucid would be an admission of making a bad investment.

    • @_Kittensworth
      @_Kittensworth Месяц назад +20

      Never underestimate to the power of when pride meets the sunk cost fallacy.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Месяц назад +23

      @@_Kittensworth Fear as well. These guys chopped up a journalist for speaking the truth about their stupid line city.

    • @texchu8331
      @texchu8331 Месяц назад +8

      Nah, I think they got exactly what they wanted. If it was doing well, they wouldn't have been able to buy a controlling stake in it and force them to build a plant in Saudi Arabia. They needed a failing car company, and they got exactly they were aiming for.
      As for whether it's a good idea to lose so much money trying to build up in industrial sector that seems destined to be eternally priced out of the market by high wages in the country, I don't know.

    • @deeptoot1453
      @deeptoot1453 Месяц назад +6

      Middle Easterners will never admit they made a crappy investment.

    • @pradhyudh
      @pradhyudh Месяц назад +1

      Lucid is a far better car than Tesla,watch Jason camissa's video on it.if the fundamentals are good ,in long term,any investment will pay off. RUclips wasn't profitable till the 20's

  • @nickafanasyev6550
    @nickafanasyev6550 Месяц назад +205

    Lucid makes fine cars.They just need to figure out how to make $

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Месяц назад +55

      It's pretty easy to make a good car if you are allowed to lose $200k per unit I would imagine. Imagine what a BMW or Porsche would look like if instead of making profit they were allowed to lose $200k per unit? They would be amazing.

    • @nickafanasyev6550
      @nickafanasyev6550 Месяц назад +17

      @@chrisbradley3224 you are comparing a start up to a 100 years old companies

    • @brilanto
      @brilanto Месяц назад

      How dio the old big OEMs profit of the century of knowing how to bend steel?
      Where is the mass of PROFITABLE affordable or even 'luxurious' EVs of Toyota, VW, Ford, GM, Stellantis (especially in the US)?
      Without Tesla there would be even less than now!

    • @chrissmith3587
      @chrissmith3587 Месяц назад +17

      Anyone can make good cars when you throw money at the problem
      The challenge is designing and manufacturing profitably
      Honestly it’s just dumb to put any money into a new ev car company.
      The industry giants have woken up, they already have parts from previous cars, they aren’t building from scratch.
      Tesla was a once in a generation event

    • @markdc1145
      @markdc1145 Месяц назад

      Make it in China, otherwise lose $$$

  • @fuzzy3440
    @fuzzy3440 Месяц назад +277

    ah, the Adam Neumann business model, suck all the money from your investors.

    • @RichardKing-sx6xc
      @RichardKing-sx6xc Месяц назад +15

      oyveyyy

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад

      Would you rather these idiots spend it on building pyramids in the desert?

    • @sauronthegreat5799
      @sauronthegreat5799 Месяц назад

      Those stupid investor believe that conman and scammer Neumann.

    • @danielweatherman2252
      @danielweatherman2252 26 дней назад

      Wasn't the first guy to come up with that model. William Rockefeller and Anaconda Mining company wrecked the global economy for 10 years, pumping out fake stock worth more than the vompany and its profits...

  • @MB-jt9mo
    @MB-jt9mo Месяц назад +207

    Shout out to my homies who lost 'you don't even want to know' amounts of $ on Lucid and Rivian

    • @robertmurphy3014
      @robertmurphy3014 Месяц назад +1

      10 puts, 3 months out

    • @brilanto
      @brilanto Месяц назад +10

      And all because of 'Elon bad'...

    • @davidc1878
      @davidc1878 Месяц назад +30

      @@brilanto No, it's because EVs were always a much more complex and resource-intensive technology than internal combustion engine vehicles. And when you add on the extra 'tech' (as these are primarily designed by tech companies and not auto companies), these EVs are products that suffer from premature obsolescence... making them even more resource-intensive and wasteful. In addition, the shift to EVs required the building of a completely new charging infrastructure and would entail the auto repair industry to completely re-train and re-tool and, the biggest problem, would require a massive expansion of electricity grids and power generation. In reality, EVs were just a way of the upper middle class and the upper class to cosplay as environmentalists while doing absolutely nothing to reduce their extremely resource-intensive lifestyles.

    • @MG-Alexandrovich
      @MG-Alexandrovich Месяц назад

      @@davidc1878 specifically for US, service is essentially pert replacement regardless if it’s ice or ev, big cities have no issues with amount of charging stations, esp now that Tesla is opening up for other brands. As far as being more complex, developing ice would take start up 20 yrs and still be worse then a lot of competition. EVs opened up the market and progress for sure. I don’t see it fully replacing ice any time soon but it has its use cases

    • @brilanto
      @brilanto Месяц назад

      @@davidc1878 I see, you fully soaked up the OEMs' 🤡 arguments...
      Batteries (even that in the cars) help to stabilize the misplanned grids and are almost fully recyclable, after their very long lifetime is exhausted - to create new batteries even cheaper along the falling price from the scaling and growing supply.
      It's the combustion engines with planned obsolescence to sell more cars, parts, compulsory service [btw missing only with Teslas] to feed the greedy dealerships and Big Oil losing their profits, as renewable energy takes away the business case...

  • @Slaphappy1975
    @Slaphappy1975 Месяц назад +46

    Elon Musk always said by far the hardest task Tesla faced was figuring out how to mass manufacture their vehicles, not designing them or making prototypes.

    • @mohamedchebab9917
      @mohamedchebab9917 Месяц назад +3

      THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE

    • @MatthewMS.
      @MatthewMS. 27 дней назад +1

      leon Lusk is false smart guy grifter

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 23 дня назад

      @@MatthewMS. plz don't insult papa musk

    • @murraymadness4674
      @murraymadness4674 21 день назад +1

      Robot commenting, same comment in all videos

  • @dosmastrify
    @dosmastrify Месяц назад +77

    I keep asking myself the very same question. Seems like the only person getting rich is Pete rawlinson.
    All the magazines said they had great cars, but they keep selling them at a loss. They said watch out for a 48,000 car.... Why are we watching out? Are we watching to see how much more money you can lose per unit???

    • @damatricrayton8942
      @damatricrayton8942 Месяц назад +2

      Tesla is the only car company making a profit right now on evs in 5 or 6 years this company will be big

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Месяц назад

      ​@@damatricrayton8942 can I sell you my stock??

    • @kaasmeester5903
      @kaasmeester5903 Месяц назад +3

      Lucid seems to make great cars, but they are not cheap and the market for luxury EVs isn’t all that great. Tesla got away with using Model S sales to fund expansion of the company because back then their were the only game in town.

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler Месяц назад +4

      Quotes of "loss per car" are meaningless because they have to invest insane money just to make any car. Wheras established manufacturers already have manufacturing plants, people, suppliers, etc. Theyre not selling a 300k car for 100k. Theyre selling a 100k car while burning tons of money on "growth".

    • @damatricrayton8942
      @damatricrayton8942 Месяц назад

      @@kaasmeester5903 Mr Rollings said to start a new car company you have to come out with the luxury models first the most expensive then you bring out the more affordable last this company is really owned by the Saudi and the cost is just a drop in the bucket to them the PIF fund has about a trillion dollars and they have enough oil to last over 200 years

  • @jeffaardrup5051
    @jeffaardrup5051 Месяц назад +135

    Why didn't you mention the latest news that the CEO's pay package in 2022 was $278 million. More than $1 million a day. Criminal! Where's the lawsuit?

    • @dosmastrify
      @dosmastrify Месяц назад +29

      He's certainly not worth that money.

    • @stuiley424
      @stuiley424 Месяц назад +75

      You do know there are 365 days in a year?
      None the less it’s still excessive.👍

    • @buxomant
      @buxomant Месяц назад +46

      Maybe they meant per working day, not per calendar day.

    • @bawiso
      @bawiso Месяц назад

      ​@@stuiley424252 recognised business days.

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 Месяц назад +13

      TIL there's fewer than 278 days in a year. I think executive pay is the least of Lucid's problems. They'd be burning tons of cash even if they didn't pay any of their execs a dime. Also have to imagine getting paid in equity in a failing business isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

  • @warsmithalaric
    @warsmithalaric Месяц назад +88

    Probably a sunken cost fallacy

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler Месяц назад +8

      Theyre doing exactly what they said they would do. Investing for their future outside of oil, including domestic manufacturing

    • @Loanshark753
      @Loanshark753 Месяц назад

      I am unsure if Japanese carmakers were subsidieced however the japanese market was protect so they could catch up.

    • @deeptoot1453
      @deeptoot1453 Месяц назад +2

      It's not that bad of an investment tbh. They're gaining experience in a future sub section of the car industry. Very smart move. Even if they fail, they will have learned a lot as well as established some if the infrastructure needed for this sector to thrive.

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur4635 Месяц назад +20

    While its bad that its not making money. Creating an industry from scratch on an unindustrialized country is super expensive. This is why most of the world ISNT industrialized.

    • @philips5148
      @philips5148 Месяц назад +1

      the problem with Saudi is when oil runs out, it has to be industrialized like the west or it will end up like Yemen.

  • @anthonypi9011
    @anthonypi9011 Месяц назад +7

    I like your analysis. Thank you for making this video.

  • @andrewbest5854
    @andrewbest5854 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for the informative video. I thought I knew the Lucid story but I learnt from this, including that Lucid built a plant in SA.

  • @TheDailyDriver
    @TheDailyDriver Месяц назад +50

    I met the Saudi member that made this acquisition and they have a lot of pride for Lucid. They honestly have an unlimited budget. Although they are wanting profitability, they see the long game.

    • @collar1967
      @collar1967 Месяц назад

      Sounds like cope. Who wants to drive a car made by desert 🐒 s.

    • @basillah7650
      @basillah7650 Месяц назад +2

      Has no long game even tesla that sells for less which lucid is just a rip off of because it has people from tesla has a hard time to sell now because people that wanted electric cars got them already and electric suck since need special charger areas

    • @christiangutti7614
      @christiangutti7614 Месяц назад

      All they have to do is rise the barrel of oil by .2 cents per day for a couple days….

    • @louisazraels7072
      @louisazraels7072 Месяц назад +1

      Eh, no one has unlimited budget, not even the Norwegian sovereign fund

  • @xiphoid2011
    @xiphoid2011 Месяц назад +44

    Saudi would do better taking the Norwegian route. Instead of investing the sovereign wealth fund into failed projects, just invest it into a diversified portfolio of international stocks and bonds. When you saved enough, you can just live off the interest and dividends forever.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад +12

      Norway's sovereign wealth fund is totally pumping the EV bubble too. They make a little money, because they aren't idiots.

    • @steak5599
      @steak5599 Месяц назад +8

      Who told you Saudi didn't do that? Norwegian wealth fund also pumped some flops too, they all really aren't so different.
      The Saudi knows Oil will not last forever and they need to do something, Manufacturing are labor intensive and provide jobs, just look at China, the government pumped A LOT of money into the EV sector, and they only got 1 decent EV maker out of it.

    • @manhoosnick
      @manhoosnick Месяц назад +7

      ​@@steak5599 except that saudis are wasting and burning at wayyy higher rate and on top saudis are 30 million

    • @zenastronomy
      @zenastronomy Месяц назад +1

      they have their own personal wealth fund invested heavily in the west from football clubs to hotels to apple to Microsoft. in case they need to flee when the oil dries up and the arab civilians start hunting them to kill them.
      but they want to keep their fiefdom and to do that, they need to create a post oil economy. except they are failing miserably at it. As they are too stupid and probably killed all the smart people or tortured them to flee if not.
      that's usually how idiot nepobaby rulers are.

    • @xiphoid2011
      @xiphoid2011 Месяц назад

      @steak5599 I don't see Norwegians investing in such idiotic idea as a 170 km long linear city in a desert. Lol. The Saudis take bad investing to a whole new level.

  • @BSJinx
    @BSJinx Месяц назад +33

    Well, it's not as stupid as the Line... or the Mukaab... or Oxagon... or...

  • @Takudza
    @Takudza Месяц назад +50

    Make these EVs cheaper for the masses. Trying hook in car enthusiasts with luxury EVs is a losing strategy.

    • @Pernection
      @Pernection Месяц назад +11

      You can't start off that way with new products. Every high tech product is high like the first cars, tvs, cell phones, VCRs until you reach mass production.

    • @davidtydeman1434
      @davidtydeman1434 Месяц назад +2

      Starting with a high performance vehicle was a good way of justifying EVs when establishing the market. Unfortunately there is a limited market for premium EV customers. The next challenge for EV manufacturers is cost efficient production which is proving to be really difficult for many brands

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Месяц назад +10

      No, the losing strategy is starting off trying to produce a low-cost low-margin product when you can't even make a profit on the high-cost "high margin" version.

    • @SnowmanTF2
      @SnowmanTF2 Месяц назад +1

      They seem one of the EV startups that pitched themselves as following the Tesla model to investors to exist in the first place. Start in the highest end market can produce a product where the low volume you can produce as a start up might be able hit a niche to offset the high costs of early phase development. Then as you improve your internal design/production infrastructure target a wider market but still high end of vehicle market so theoretically profitable, since EVs inherently were still going to have a cost premium over ICE vehicles, even if you were not still far behind production capacity of traditional automakers. Eventually producing models most people could afford to buy, which even Tesla has arguably not gotten far enough to get price point that low, and likely either Tesla or traditional auto manufactures will likely reach that before Lucid. On top of which, even if they somehow could produce the cars at those price points, there still is not enough of the raw materials EVs need mined per year to displace the entire number of ICE vehicles sold per year. So to sell to the masses either requires increasing like a dozen materials mining capacity magnitudes of order, or developing new battery chemistries and some alternate materials for various components/structures. Which those materials probably either cost more or have disadvantages in performance, since if were cheap and effective would be the standard now.

    • @nietur
      @nietur Месяц назад +5

      You know what's a losing strategy? Losing money on every vehicle to sell to the masses. They would sell cheaper if they could.

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto 13 дней назад +2

    I drove a Lucid Air Touring at the nearby Lucid store just last Sunday and it was really impressive. I'm waiting to drive the Gravity before ordering anything though.

  • @Killacam1992
    @Killacam1992 Месяц назад +3

    My buddy was on the lucid hype train a while back with an avg of $32/share.. I told him it was a terrible investment and he wouldn’t listen.. finally it hit around $26/share and I went over the company’s financials with him and how he should cut his losses.. he listened to me and sold and he still thanks me all the time.. we live in a pretty wild time when there’s so many different bad stocks being hyped right now..

  • @hoangle2483
    @hoangle2483 Месяц назад +13

    Oh damn, why are they failing?
    "Merge with a SPAC"
    ah, nvm

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 Месяц назад

      The SPAC is the symptom, not the cause. They have to merge with a SPAC because the business is such dog shit they couldn't pull off a traditional IPO. And the whole reason they wanted to go public was to get another big pile of investor cash to burn.

  • @ashtonturner2862
    @ashtonturner2862 Месяц назад +1

    I remember when Lucid brand was announced back 2016, but I haven't heard anything from them since then.

  • @itstime3088
    @itstime3088 Месяц назад

    Very good report, thanks!

  • @tommyhairyeah7726
    @tommyhairyeah7726 Месяц назад +24

    Cheap cars, that’s what everyone wants and needs not 100k+ bricks

    • @williamlangeii4012
      @williamlangeii4012 11 дней назад

      Yep, and make a car that looks like a normal car. Every electric car looks like some fake car from a futuristic movie set.

    • @catioicat727
      @catioicat727 10 дней назад

      ​@@williamlangeii4012wdym model S and 3/y are some of the most mundane normal looking cars out I would even say the air isn't anything over the top

  • @soulsoulsoul634
    @soulsoulsoul634 Месяц назад +21

    doors not closing and squeaky steering wheels to be expected from a new car company ? no its not to be expected for the price they are asking it should be immaculate.

  • @VinceroAlpha
    @VinceroAlpha Месяц назад +6

    They are the definition of more money than sense if they want to get into the automotive industry, they should be the destination hub for hot weather testing. They also have enough money to evolve the company into a energy company and make other avenues of green energy production more cost effective.

  • @shookya6976
    @shookya6976 Месяц назад +38

    Seems like if Saudi Arabia didnt have oil it would have the investment misfortune of a country like Albania

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад

      If the Saudis didn't have oil you would know nothing of them because they wouldn't even be able to make headlines even if they launched a terror campaign

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Месяц назад +2

      It's like Cathie Wood but with oil money.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 Месяц назад +2

      Like Yemen or Afghanistan

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Месяц назад +3

      Albania is a modern paradise compared to what Saudi Arabia would be without the oil.

    • @itachiUchiha-kv2hi
      @itachiUchiha-kv2hi Месяц назад +1

      @@peterfireflylund Oil is not the only factor, there are many countries that have it, the main factor is proper management

  • @fgeiger41
    @fgeiger41 Месяц назад +5

    That's weird. On the website it states the losses are 227,008 per car. I've seen even higher.

  • @Rightround0846
    @Rightround0846 Месяц назад +82

    Someone is sleeping with the prince. Literally the only explanation I can think of..

    • @duran9664
      @duran9664 Месяц назад

      Or, the real goal NEVER the profit, but influence 🤏 The saudi royal mafia bought sporting teams & entities & lost billions on them only to sport wash & use them to pay indirect bribes 🤷‍♀️

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад +22

      Not necessarily. An earlier ruler once threw away a truckload of silver at a random construction worker who did a hilarious stunt. That construction worker was Mohammed Bin Laden.

    • @Sunshine-yv6di
      @Sunshine-yv6di Месяц назад

      why USA citizens think about sex more than success?

    • @zenastronomy
      @zenastronomy Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@samsonsoturian6013that's not true. what is it with west and constantly lying about Muslims.
      bin laden comes from a massively rich construction family. they have been rich since the kingdom started selling oil. well before bin laden himself was born.

    • @MarceloDezem
      @MarceloDezem Месяц назад +8

      Yeah, there has to be ass involved somewhere in this story

  • @tajsingh9769
    @tajsingh9769 Месяц назад +2

    Dealership near me has had one in stock for over a year now. They keep dropping the price but no bite

  • @kondor99999
    @kondor99999 Месяц назад +11

    I’ve been a race car driver in SCCA since the late 80s. I can assure you that literally no one (and especially not distracted tech-obsessed people) needs a 500hp car for the street (to say nothing of 1000+ hp). The weight and power levels of these electric vehicles is really concerning. What happens when a 6000lb electric sedan with insane acceleration hits a smaller normal car?

    • @Lufega
      @Lufega Месяц назад

      "Ride for ruin and the world ending! Deeeeeeeath!"

    • @christopherkelly577
      @christopherkelly577 19 дней назад

      A big hard to extinguish fire most of the time

    • @nathannguyen1593
      @nathannguyen1593 19 дней назад

      I mean, i was hit by a regular car from the back in a Tesla. Nothing happened to me except the bumper being damaged. The other car was wrecked and needed to be towed..Idk if its good or not but i can definitely say an EV saved my life.

  • @dumyjobby
    @dumyjobby Месяц назад +4

    The car is out but the brand is new and it will take some time to build recognition, the car market is a very hard business. I wish lucid to be successful, i find their car good looking and if i could afford one i would definitely buy one.

  • @MOFOSGTFO
    @MOFOSGTFO Месяц назад +131

    Never forget about Jamal khashoggi!

    • @AbhishekKumarJha-vp4dv
      @AbhishekKumarJha-vp4dv Месяц назад +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @duran9664
      @duran9664 Месяц назад

      After Biden famous fist bump with MBS👊, it was totally over 😒

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Месяц назад

      Quit spamming that. The Saudis do frivolous murders all the time. One Bedouin was killed just because he refused to leave when evicted

    • @colt0110
      @colt0110 Месяц назад

      Or Jeffery Epstein, the Boeing whistleblowers etc etc

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Месяц назад

      Saudi Prince MBS aka Mohammed Bone Saw runs therepressive autocratic corrupt country.

  • @hd3zchris
    @hd3zchris 8 дней назад

    I never expected that sales of Lucid vehicles were that low. Image is everything and they hid it well. Wow.

  • @Jeffdoeswhat
    @Jeffdoeswhat Месяц назад +2

    I like the way the lucid air dream looks. I would want one but way too high price. Also i dont see myself buying any new car anytime soon.

  • @gund89123
    @gund89123 Месяц назад +8

    $200K/car loss ?
    What are they doing?

    • @SalvadorSTMZ
      @SalvadorSTMZ 27 дней назад +3

      Paying the ceo 1 mil per day apparently.

  • @geraldjarosch536
    @geraldjarosch536 Месяц назад +3

    Where do you have this 114 mph for the Model S from?

    • @alquinn8576
      @alquinn8576 23 дня назад

      yeah google search says 149mph

  • @qzwxecrv0192837465
    @qzwxecrv0192837465 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for not doing your "preview of what will be discussed" and just making a video. One of my biggest issues with a few of my favorite channels is the preview, but thankfully I can fast forward 3 unnecessary minutes. great work as always

  • @davianoinglesias5030
    @davianoinglesias5030 Месяц назад

    Coming from nothing and entering the luxury market is definitely a bad business idea unless you have a bottomless pit of money and have the patience

  • @itachiUchiha-kv2hi
    @itachiUchiha-kv2hi Месяц назад +3

    I am surprised by some who believe that Lucid is the only investment for the Public Investment Fund because its value is close to a trillion dollars and Lucid is nothing.

  • @eingast7798
    @eingast7798 Месяц назад +30

    Makes more sense than to burn 44billion on Twitter.

  • @thadeouszeus
    @thadeouszeus 28 дней назад +2

    I see Lucid as a battery power company. They have an innovative product with their battery design and regenerative braking tech. I see the cars as proof of concept, evidenced by their involvement in F1e. Their goal may really be to sell their tech product or license patents to other manufacturers.

  • @LuisLopez2
    @LuisLopez2 Месяц назад

    They just opened a new showroom in Old Town Pasadena.

  • @prestonlui6451
    @prestonlui6451 Месяц назад +6

    I wonder will local Saudis work inside those factories. The works in to automobile will likely be mostly filled by migrant workers

    • @BigBoss-qh6kb
      @BigBoss-qh6kb Месяц назад

      We will bring you to work in our factories and we only give you orders and you have to say (yes sir)😂😂😂😂

  • @cygnusa3772
    @cygnusa3772 Месяц назад +29

    70k for a base model is too much for a no name brand.

    • @PrivilegedWhiteMale
      @PrivilegedWhiteMale Месяц назад +8

      The 70k Lucid is better than the Tesla Model S, 15 miles longer range, much better built quality, better looking while being 5 grand cheaper. Plus it comes with $2,000 charging credit though incentives I believe

    • @Owsryudie
      @Owsryudie Месяц назад +1

      It needs to be 20-35k €

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt Месяц назад

      @@PrivilegedWhiteMalethey both have crap build quality 😂

    • @philthechiller7026
      @philthechiller7026 Месяц назад

      When they lose 200k per vehicle, it wouldn’t matter that much to sell it cheaper…

    • @Owsryudie
      @Owsryudie Месяц назад

      @@philthechiller7026 It does matter how much the production costs are. ^^

  • @echin01
    @echin01 7 дней назад

    Please do a similar thorough analysis on Rivian!

  • @nicholashylton6857
    @nicholashylton6857 Месяц назад

    I like the look. It's a pity it isn't doing well.

  • @jeffreygeorge219
    @jeffreygeorge219 Месяц назад +8

    I made a killing on the SPAC, almost a 5x on my money. I seen the $87 Billlion MC for IPO and fired in my profit, got smashed for 85% loss. Loved the car and ideology, but the company screwed the numbers and Wall street over valued IPO

    • @deedeeramone34
      @deedeeramone34 Месяц назад

      Lmao “ideology”
      No wonder they swindled you

  • @shouldigetit
    @shouldigetit Месяц назад +5

    Whoever decided on this investment was definitely lucid dreaming.

  • @AMAzOOOOOOOn
    @AMAzOOOOOOOn 22 дня назад

    rolls royes used to have the same problem when it started in the UK .. and it still exists

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    @LindaHarmel Месяц назад +22

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      @arktom7335 Месяц назад

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      @findingpath8362 Месяц назад

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      @wilsonrichard440 Месяц назад

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      @benjaminocampo3359 Месяц назад

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      @waynes4369 Месяц назад

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  • @jonogrimmer6013
    @jonogrimmer6013 Месяц назад +31

    If you have so much money you really don't care what it's spent on, something will eventually be profitable!

    • @zenastronomy
      @zenastronomy Месяц назад +9

      or you'll see how quickly all these investments go bankrupt once their oil dries up.

    • @DrKlaskyCsupoSplaat4321
      @DrKlaskyCsupoSplaat4321 Месяц назад +1

      6-7 billion for a country like Saudi Arabia is peanuts!! So they can still do it for another 10 years (if they want to).

    • @jimpaddy79
      @jimpaddy79 Месяц назад +2

      But it, lost optunity cost, that money could have been spent on something profitable and that oil money is not going to last for ever

    • @Hasanaljadid
      @Hasanaljadid Месяц назад

      ​@@zenastronomyOil is not going to dry up in next 40 years

    • @zenastronomy
      @zenastronomy Месяц назад +3

      @@Hasanaljadid but demand might

  • @joewolke1246
    @joewolke1246 Месяц назад

    I was in Riyadh last year. Didn’t see a single Lucid.

  • @alwafealwafe
    @alwafealwafe Месяц назад

    not bad info. good video

  • @janakakumara3836
    @janakakumara3836 Месяц назад +9

    I test drove a Lucid when I was shopping for a premium EV. It is not a good car for the price:
    1. The ride was very hard for a car at this - it does not have air suspension
    2. The apple carplay integration is terrible
    3. The automatic lane keeping is glitchy
    I ended up getting an EQS, which is much better in every way, for the price point.

    • @Passions
      @Passions Месяц назад

      LOL apple carplay is a deal breaker?

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Месяц назад +6

      Your four criticisms of the Lucid Air sound valid, but the EQS is less efficient and has less range and is less powerful. Enjoy your EV.

    • @deedeeramone34
      @deedeeramone34 Месяц назад

      Apparently Mercedes can’t sell any EQS models and they just sit on the lots.

    • @Moses_VII
      @Moses_VII Месяц назад

      ​@@Passions
      Car software is a central part of the experience

    • @HarmonixsLoL
      @HarmonixsLoL Месяц назад +2

      Honestly would rather get a Tesla than an EQS. The EQS is Mercedes first attempt at EVs and it's lacking- great looking car, bad at everything else.

  • @henlostinky273
    @henlostinky273 Месяц назад +3

    lucid is a genuinely baffling company and it'd be fascinating if someone ever dissected why nothing ever seems to go right for them. they just lost dan bell as head of software, a guy who worked on the original iphone and ran intel's mobile division, because after 3 years he couldn't fix the dysfunction in their software team. you can almost see apple HQ from their office but it took them 2 years to get carplay working. they're a startup but the code running in those cars now is directly descended from junk slapped together for demos of those 2016 prototypes. shutting them down is almost a mercy, but the saudis keep it going for reasons nobody understands. just a complete mystery.

    • @richseng
      @richseng Месяц назад

      Do you think Apple should buy them out?

    • @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n
      @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n Месяц назад

      @@richseng this year apple cut their losses on their long running and expensive car programme so id say zero chance they would buy a EV company that is losing even more than they did on their own

    • @samuhlm2
      @samuhlm2 Месяц назад +1

      @@richseng This is a viable option and wouldnt be awful for Apple. I believe they had an autonomous car project that they shut down. Apple really should get into the car biz. There are ppl who will be loyal to apple regardless of what the product is, and cars are about as big as you get w manufactured products in USA

    • @richseng
      @richseng Месяц назад

      @@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n Well, as Elon said, building a car company is HARD, and if Lucid already did 85% of the work, and Apple could buy up the infrastructure & capacity at 10 cents on the dollar, it could/would make sense if they put the right team together... and they would, as many of the best engineers worldwide would rush in to help make it happen. I think it could be a coup for Apple, instead of them just buying back their own shares. Steve Jobs would go for it. The challenge would be a drug that every shareholder would get to hit on.

  • @muskreality
    @muskreality Месяц назад +1

    "Merging to form a SPAC" famous last words

  • @Abosujood
    @Abosujood Месяц назад +1

    So is it a buy or garbage?

  • @andrewdubose9968
    @andrewdubose9968 Месяц назад +6

    Go watch Jason Cammisa’s review of the Lucid Air. Many reasons the company is floundering, but a subpar product is not one of them.

  • @willblack2306
    @willblack2306 Месяц назад +6

    Saudi Arabia signed an agreement with Lucid to buy 100,000 current and future models over a ten year period. They are going long-term!

  • @kwan3560
    @kwan3560 17 дней назад

    Their major problem is the over reliant on the dangerous touch screen. No one asked or wanted touchscreen in a moving automobile. Tesla sold well not because of the touchscreen, but because consumers had no choice before and they had to accept that defect.

  • @oFaisalo
    @oFaisalo Месяц назад +1

    When a company or a country just owned another company the another company will suffer for a little time this is normal.

  • @3v3rhard
    @3v3rhard Месяц назад +6

    Apple also spend 10b on an ev project with 0 revenue...

  • @allhailderpfestor4839
    @allhailderpfestor4839 Месяц назад +9

    At least its still better investment then Line lmao

    • @duran9664
      @duran9664 Месяц назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 u r so nasty 🤣🤣

  • @gexpe2003
    @gexpe2003 Месяц назад

    tks MBS

  • @jagpilotohio
    @jagpilotohio Месяц назад

    I sure hope they hold on. They make a great vehicle.

  • @louis-philippesavard742
    @louis-philippesavard742 Месяц назад +16

    The charging part is a real deal breaker.

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu Месяц назад

      I'd argue only part of it ( but an important part) I think what hurts Lucid is that for what they're asking for their vehicles, one can purchase an excellent, high performance ICE vehicle. If it came down to a Lucid or a nicely appointed Porsche, BMW, or Mercedes I'd choose one of the latter.

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 Месяц назад +2

      TBH if you are spending 6 figures on an EV you probably don't care that much about how good the free charging is, which you won't even use unless you are going on a road trip. The depreciation is the real issue.

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Месяц назад +3

      ​@@weirdshibainu rich people can afford to do the right thing and not burn fossil fuel. Lucid's bigger problem is by the time the Air started delivery there were credible luxury EV sedan alternatives including thr Porsche Taycan and Mercedes EQS, along with the Model S whose price Tesla kept lowering.

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu Месяц назад

      @@skierpage You think rich people really care about doing the right thing? LOL. As they fly private? Or live in houses with huge carbon footprints? I'd argue that a small percentage may be early adopters for the tech, with even a smaller percentage in the name of climate change. Neither the Taycan or the EQS are strong sellers and even in their portfolio the comparable ICE vehciles out sell the EV counterpart.

    • @weirdshibainu
      @weirdshibainu Месяц назад

      @@bubba99009 I think most people that buy these could care less about depreciation. They lease.

  • @chasemartin4450
    @chasemartin4450 Месяц назад +5

    I'm sorry... $8 million of losses *per day?*

  • @Charity4Chokora
    @Charity4Chokora Месяц назад +1

    Even 100 billion for this project would be a better investment than just letting their unrefined plastic be burnt as petroleum.

  • @davidyoder-rh4wf
    @davidyoder-rh4wf Месяц назад

    How fast it charges

  • @Seriouspatt
    @Seriouspatt Месяц назад +4

    I think this shows just what Tesla and other EV makers are up against. The Auto industry is not only incredibly competitive, as this weren't enough. It's also driven by governments which don't care about losing a fuckton of money per car sold. Lucid is not real player on the car market, they're a tool for building a future Saudi Arabia when the oil cashflow dries up.
    It's no fun to compete against such a tool.

  • @lowvaeater
    @lowvaeater Месяц назад +3

    Lucid has the best technology in EV and best expertise in automotive engineering.
    The need fund to propel forward with a passionate CEO serious on the business.
    If have money for them to thrive I would do the same.

  • @iplayoldschoolrunescape
    @iplayoldschoolrunescape Месяц назад +1

    I think with how much money saudi arabia has they have a potential to even surpass tesla. But maybe the team just isnt on par with tesla. Imagine if they made a charging grid as big if not bigger than tesla they would be a major player. I feel like theyre just at the beginning where they have to make big investments and hope to make their profits in the future. And saudi arabia has plenty of money to invest unless their oil dries up.

  • @tribalypredisposed
    @tribalypredisposed Месяц назад +1

    Losing over $300,000 per car the most recent quarter…

  • @xoninx
    @xoninx Месяц назад +6

    Lage investment in a brand called "looz-it" sounds like a great idea!

  • @gmfan09
    @gmfan09 Месяц назад +8

    All these EV companies behave and expect to be treated like tech companies. They aren’t tech companies they are car manufacturers. It’s a really tough business, ask GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda, etc… there is a reason new car companies ,even regular ones, never last or are bought out by the big boys. You can’t make cars on a small scale and make money unless you are charging 200,000 or more. The scale just isn’t there.

  • @G11713
    @G11713 Месяц назад +1

    They should invest in Aptera. The car form factor is transitionary.

  • @andromedach
    @andromedach Месяц назад

    and now Aptera went to the UAE begging for investments in April, apparently taking money from an area of the world with some of the worst human rights issues is acceptable if state your saving the environment

  • @silversurfer8237
    @silversurfer8237 Месяц назад +9

    KSA deserves credit for trying to diversify away from oil production. If they try hard enough they will succeed. They should consider saving one of the charging SPACs to create a reliable competitive alternative. This will not only help Lucid but also provide a business that can go global. 500Kwh charging would be awesome.

    • @basillah7650
      @basillah7650 Месяц назад

      They not trying spending money in luxury car company that loses money every time one is sold
      on cars you cannot use if they run out in middle of no where because need a charger to power them up lol.

  • @nicholasgutierrez9940
    @nicholasgutierrez9940 Месяц назад +4

    They want to create domestic industries in anticipation of oil becoming irrelevant or collapsing due to whatever reason. The issue is that they suck at management of companies because all they know is oil. It could be fixed, but I highly doubt a corrupt autocracy can do it. Especially the Saudis.

    • @jimpaddy79
      @jimpaddy79 Месяц назад

      Not to mention all the inherited difficulties of try to operate industries in a desert with a limited customer baces.

  • @scottlauren3145
    @scottlauren3145 Месяц назад

    You can drive any speed you want in parts of Montana.

  • @williambrasky3891
    @williambrasky3891 Месяц назад

    At least they are keeping an incredibly interesting company alive. They truly are the best electric vehicles made.

  • @bangla996
    @bangla996 Месяц назад +8

    this is a testament to tesla. making EVs at scale from scratch is not easy

    • @anonymous7egend
      @anonymous7egend 27 дней назад

      Took them 12 years to make a profit. Musk was begging Apple and Saudi to buy them out. " funding secured"

  • @habbyhouse
    @habbyhouse Месяц назад +58

    Comments that say "First" sucks.

    • @RD-ce6bb
      @RD-ce6bb Месяц назад +3

      Indeed

    • @BradKnowsAll
      @BradKnowsAll Месяц назад +11

      “Suck” - just fyi.

    • @Car_Fanatic
      @Car_Fanatic Месяц назад +2

      Nope means they are a big fan that they click immediately when the notification comes. Ciao lol

    • @digi3218
      @digi3218 Месяц назад +7

      First

    • @nuclearthunder562
      @nuclearthunder562 Месяц назад +1

      Just like your mom

  • @karendarrenmclaren
    @karendarrenmclaren Месяц назад

    They should build charging network. That at least will be in line with initial energy supply business of sa

  • @orlandocastillo6862
    @orlandocastillo6862 Месяц назад

    It they can fully build the car there and sell it for a good price it would be a great investment because cars are too expensive in the Middle East.

  • @TheLemmonade
    @TheLemmonade Месяц назад +4

    Not sure how much money the Saudis have, but given that Softbank lit a bunch of their money on fire, it seems to me that they need to make a very decisive and large scale move into the ev/hybrid industry. I don't think it is through Lucid because they need to make cars for the everyday person. That's how you cement yourself as a global, reputable, recognizable auto producer. Luxury cars only appeal to the wealthy, which will pigeonhole their growth. You can also make way more money. They need to be competing directly with Toyota, and they will only have the exorbitant capital to do it for a limited time. That's my take, anyway.

  • @AuralioCabal-nl8gi
    @AuralioCabal-nl8gi Месяц назад +3

    Maybe Peter Rawlinson is a better Used Car Salesman than Henrik Fisker?🤔

  • @ChrisCoombes
    @ChrisCoombes Месяц назад

    Why doesn't Saudi Arabia just pay existing car brands to be an assembly/testing hub for the region?

    • @bubba99009
      @bubba99009 Месяц назад

      They don't even have a labor force which is their real problem. I guess their native workforce doesn't care much for working because all the work is done by Indians and other foreigners, who are brought in and held hostage until their contracts are up. So what would even be the point of building any manufacturing in the country when they'd have to import the workers anyway? And what kind of manufacturer would want to be associated with that kind of labor practice?

  • @PeterparkerSlaps
    @PeterparkerSlaps Месяц назад +1

    Standard model S top speed is 130mph. And only $72k

  • @tonycrabtree3416
    @tonycrabtree3416 Месяц назад +4

    Let's see. A Lexus LS 500h or this thing in the same price range.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Месяц назад +3

      These things are good and probably drive way better than the way the boring ass Lexus. The problem for Lucid is they are good deals for you and not for them, since they lose tons of money on every unit.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Месяц назад

      @@chrisbradley3224 Yeah, nah. LMAO!

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Месяц назад

      A Lexus burns through tons of dirty fossil fuel in operation. Next!
      Toyota 2022 announcement: "Lexus to go all-electric in Europe and North America by 2030." Toyota knows where the future lies, but it's way behind.

    • @tonycrabtree3416
      @tonycrabtree3416 Месяц назад

      @@skierpage cry more! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @dri1811ya
    @dri1811ya Месяц назад +3

    I'm a financial analyst working in a third world country. When money is thrown at something that don't make sense, the answer is most likely money laundering

    • @mammamiapizzeria4911
      @mammamiapizzeria4911 Месяц назад

      Can you provide an example explaining the process involved?

    • @ericprochnow
      @ericprochnow 20 дней назад

      He is called a Prince, but he is really a King. He already owns all the money in the country. No need for laundering when he can take it for himself. However, a smart king knows, if the whole nation goes under, so does his kingdom. Unfortunately, he is so rich, he only knows how to think about things that amuse him. Hence, the endless billionaire islands, sky scrapers, and massive money projects. He is building top/down.

  • @squorsh
    @squorsh Месяц назад

    I can see the appeal, from a certain point of view. If they have a ton of money but are worried that they'll no longer be able to trade with other countries for any reason, having a domestic production is very enticing. Granted, that's not what they have, but they could theoretically get there and the sunk cost fallacy probably plays a role as well.

  • @rdeh1678
    @rdeh1678 Месяц назад +7

    Actually the reason is more then likely is Elon Musk is not well liked in Saudi Arabia and they are trying to stick it to tesla , and even Tesla is in trouble due to recent report and have had huge layoffs not even giving the employees any noticed, As a saphire owner I can Honestly say the lucid was so much better then my tesla s .

    • @SOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLO
      @SOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLO Месяц назад +1

      Keep lying to yourself lol

    • @rdeh1678
      @rdeh1678 Месяц назад +3

      @SOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLOSOLO let me guesse a tesla fan boy ,who thinks tesla are the best , sorry to burst your bubble but they are far from it , with so many issues such as car not painted properly , nothing lines up them turning off car features that are already paid for by the previous owners, trying none stop to get us early adopters to of the model S to get us to upgrade so they can get us out of lifetime free charging etc,My lucid has had zero issues so far but if I had a choice I really wish in North America they would realize that what BYD and NIO are doing with the possibility of swappable batteries would be a much smarter route. Yes My lucid is expensive but honestly in the long run was a better choice , as it does the job of 3 cars Great for my job ,fun to race and huge on the inside to show my clients there future home also its a right off

    • @basillah7650
      @basillah7650 Месяц назад

      lucid is tesla both made by same people tesla workers working at lucid only difference between the two is price because lucid needs to charge more to pay for costs due to less sales.

  • @blu3mang0s
    @blu3mang0s Месяц назад +11

    The fact of the matter is Lucid makes insanely better cars than Tesla. They deserve to succeed.

    • @thdjjfsfh
      @thdjjfsfh Месяц назад +2

      If you believe this, you should buy their stock.

    • @henryyiu618
      @henryyiu618 Месяц назад +3

      Define better. Certainly not on value.

    • @JamesAnderson-lq8tf
      @JamesAnderson-lq8tf Месяц назад +2

      Is that suppose to be a joke?

    • @Chris-oz9qx
      @Chris-oz9qx Месяц назад

      Betamax was technically better than VHS.....which one succeeded?

    • @Cringe_department_15
      @Cringe_department_15 Месяц назад

      @@Chris-oz9qxinternet

  • @0Aus
    @0Aus Месяц назад

    There aren't many problems that can't be solved with more money!

  • @zeedustrakok
    @zeedustrakok Месяц назад +2

    This is basically like tesla 10 years ago..

  • @keithgoh123
    @keithgoh123 Месяц назад +4

    For a luxury car, it looks kinda cheap, no sexy body lines, even the name sounds like an apple product.
    If you're selling a luxury car, and you deliver a luxury car, the price won't be a problem, but what they have here is far from luxury.

    • @henlostinky273
      @henlostinky273 Месяц назад +2

      exterior design was by the guy who did the 4th gen mazda miata and it does a reasonable job of looking like a proper boomer luxury sedan. the real problem is that nobody drives boomer luxury sedans anymore.

    • @skierpage
      @skierpage Месяц назад

      ​@@henlostinky273 the front is nice, the side view is meh, and the rear view is 1990s GM Oldsmobile/Buick.

    • @Vamanos46
      @Vamanos46 Месяц назад

      The filthy rich want understated luxury without any opulent branding.
      Only new-money peasants want opulent luxury

  • @letsgobrandon416
    @letsgobrandon416 Месяц назад +15

    Man, if the Saudi prince wants to go broke, he can send me billions, I'll make them disappear 😂

    • @giacomu1
      @giacomu1 Месяц назад +4

      You can not beat Pentagon at this game, no a single chance.

    • @letsgobrandon416
      @letsgobrandon416 Месяц назад

      @@giacomu1 nope!

    • @SadAlonso-md6xt
      @SadAlonso-md6xt Месяц назад +1

      My guess is you cant burn it faster than lucid

    • @letsgobrandon416
      @letsgobrandon416 Месяц назад

      @@SadAlonso-md6xt listen, I can try, feel free to join me in this venture, I'm sure a handful of us can dissappear billions faster than Lucid 😂

    • @sznikers
      @sznikers Месяц назад

      ​@@giacomu1i accept the challenge! Just send me the money and you will see 😂😂