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In-Depth 2022 Off-Road Shootout: 2022 KTM 300 XC
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2022
- We just wrapped up our 2022 Two-Stroke Off-Road Shootout and in doing so we wanted to dive deep into the pros and cons of each bike individually. Take a listen as we discuss the 2022 #twostroke KTM 300 XC.
Make sure to check out our short and sweet video where we briefly cover how all five bikes tested over multiple days of riding, as well as these bike-specific videos. Make sure to keep an eye out as we release the rest of the line-up as the week goes on.
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The KTM counter balanced 300 engine is the most versatile off road engine ever made. It will do easy, hard, fast, slow and anything in between. Easy to maintain, easy to service, simple and effective. If you hate it, it's probably because you have never owned one.
I owned a 2020 Husqvarna TPI two stroke and it was a beautiful bike - I did sell it to get my TM Racing EN300ES 2 stroke and this bike is freaking magic too! Easily my favorite bike - especially with my aftermarket engine performance parts!👌💪
If you own a 300cc 2 stroke, you own a king and NEVER depart with it!!!!
It's a good bike, but no bike will ever beat the yz250x
@@carloscristoffanini1971 YOU are right about that too - amazing machine!!! :) There is one better though - taking your YZ250X and getting rid of the engine (saving clutch & transmission) and buying the new BRC YZM500 engine to put in that bad boy!!! Then you truly can not be beat on looks, style, power/speed, and TORQUE! 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
@@carloscristoffanini1971 , I would like to know if you have owned and tested both. I have over 700 hrs on KTM 250/300 engines. Probably 30 hrs on YZ250 engines. The YZ is great - but a bike designed in a different era. Speaking from experience.
@@2smoking.and.4stroking I'm not him but I've ridden both. The YZ is so much more playful to ride and easier to feel connected to than the KTMs in my opinion. Older? Absolutely. Objectively worse? I don't think so from my personal experiences with both bikes.
Awesome to see the 300xc get some love. One of the most versatile and forgiving bikes on the market. If I had to choose only 1 bike, it would be that one. Great video 👍✌️
Rode this model yesterday. Holy crap! It just glides! It's unbelievable. The power is super linear and controlled but there is a ton on tap. It's almost an extension of what your mind wants to do without a whole lot of over thinking if that makes sense? You're not thinking bout the clutch, rpms, not feeling the small chatter under you, not feeling the motor vibrating your hands numb.. just focus on the lines you take. It makes me feel like im better than I really am.. they figured out that tpi, crisp, smooth, instant power. Not a freaking drop of oil on the pipe after riding all day. The guy that owns it is still on his first bottle of oil after almost 50 hours. Incredible. Wish I'd never saw it lol.
Yea I love mine. I’m not a very good rider but this bike takes my confidence to another level with what it can do.
In the northern woods, 300 2 strokes are just about all you see now, at least for any of the serious woods guys. I picked up my '22 300XC in November (coming off a '17 250), and it's been incredible so far. It just does everything well, silky smooth and gobs of torque. I don't ever see myself going back to a carb.
300 XC is my next bike. Did some single track here in Colorado on a borrowed one. Didn't want to give it back.
The 300 is the holy grail. But let’s be honest, the 17-19 carb 300’s are untouchable. TBI might change the game, but for now, give me the Keihin.
I went from a 18 KTM 300xc carbed to a 2020 Husky tX300...I will take a TBI bike any day over my old carbed bike. No issue in 3 seasons of riding...never messing with jetting.
@@barrthom603 the stock carb bikes don’t run well. You need the JD jetting kit, or keihin carb, or lectron. This is well known around the ktm community. If your unaware of this, the tpi bike is probably better for you. You might the best possible bike tho? Keihin airstriker with stic metering block, I promise it runs better than tpi.
@@Dirtlegacyreal I did jd jet kit , gas block, fuel loop, and the jd needle adjuster for air fuel on my 18 Ktm 300xc. Definitely helped. Still prefer my tpi bike. Curious what the new 23 300 will be like. I would totally buy a new setup if it’s improved.
@@barrthom603 Yeah I’m curious to see how 23 goes. TBI could be game changing if they get it dialed. Just look at snow mobiles.
I have a a 2018 tx 300 and would keep this over any newer tpi I live in Ireland so we have no elevation jetting issues runs perfect and not worried if an oil pump is ever going to fail etc
I have the 2016 and love it by far in every way!
I was very disappointed in this off-road test. I think the MX guys need to better understand the bikes they have chosen and what their intended purposes are when comparing them. The 300XC is clearly a desert focused bike and is delivered with air forks. When comparing that to the Gasgas EC250 which is a heavily trail focused bike it does not make sense to compare one against the other. I heard Ping make a comment as why he can't understand how the XC forks feel different from EC forks? This is obviously because one is air and the other is spring and have two different disciplines. Please take these comments with a grain of salt on this comparison!
bikes in the XC line are viewed as cross-country racers
The 300XC is "clearly a desert focused bike"... uhhh what? LOL.
At 6:13 they touch on this exact point... some of the riders do understand the differences and intended use cases.
“Clearly a desert focused bike”
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XC stands for Cross Country
So yes, desert can be included but is not limited to..
Got a '22 Husky TX I love it. I don't know why anyone would put a Rekluse clutch in one. It will literally almost come to a stop in 2nd or 3rd gear and never have to touch the clutch. It's much faster too than I thought it would be.
I have a 18 300xcw with a bunch of mods including the rekluse core xp. Between the clutch and the billetron carb it's like an automatic electric machine. I'm 67 and I wouldn't ride a dirt bike without the rekluse it's that good.
I have a 2017 300 xc that I bought new and probably have 4 grand easy in upgrades and mods. It's still my dream bike. No desire to trade it for a TPI bike.
Dude, i hear what your sayin, I've ridden the older tpi bikes and the problems with the fueling and response where very noticeable. I rode this 2022 yesterday. Whatever ktm has done. It's on point. I was shocked.
@@barkeep25 I believe that. Heard they really got tpi dialed in now. I’m sure it’s a fantastic bike.
I would never trade in my 2018 300xc I got quite bitt of performance mods because I wasn't happy with the power in stock form. A tpi doesn't hold a candle to the power of my carbie bike
Only thing about the tpi is the crank case sensors on them. I bought a 22 and the CCPS went out after 15 hours.
The xc 300 is a awesome bike. I have a 12, and yes it has some weight but the motor in that bike makes up for it. Well build bike 🤙
I have a 2001 KTM 300 EXC and I love it! Yeah it's heavier but it's still a 300 2-stroke!
Such a sick bike! I would add the headlight and taillight and I'm gone!
430 hours of riding on my 18 at least 250 of those are super technical trials type terrain that requires a ton of clutch and it holds up well swapped it out at 240 as a precaution and could have left it in . I did go to a 12 tooth front to help it out as im a big guy 6'4' 230 no gear and it needed the help in the gnar we ride
53 rear sprocket?
How many hours in between top ends rebuilds currently have 65 hours on my tx 300 have you ever done any bottom end work too it
@@allgutsnoglorywtg 50
@@jakefalk6350 top end B piston at 137 and then fresh nicisil at 430 and back to a A piston, bottom end was tight so I left it
Awesome video. I bought this bike last year and it was the best decision I made when choosing a new bike.
My 22 te300i is a couple weeks away from delivery and I can’t wait 🤙🏼
In the investigative stages of potentially purchasing a new 2T off road bike. Im on a 450SXF which I rode in the desert, but it can be a handful where im at now doing some single track and trail riding in the mountains. Looking at possibly a 300 XCW. Thanks for the info!
I wonder how good the 300 would do moto at the vet level I'm not gonna be doing any real big jumps anyhow and I do woods race some , I thinks this maybe the best all-around bike on all levels and not to mention it's a 2 stroke so in the long term it would save a lot of money on rebuilds ect.
I'm a low budget kinda guy so I can't push my self to buy new cuz why buy new when used will do lol. But my favorite all around CC has to be my KTM300 but ive also got a 97 WR250 and that bike I really like in tight single track stuff over the 300.
What classes do the 150, 200 and 300 race in in motocross
no two tpi bikes run the same... I had a 2021 TX300i and i hated it. I have a friend that has a ktm 300 tpi and his runs better. both bikes were stock... its strange how the tpi works that way. went to the tc250 with an 18" rear wheel and havent looked back.
My 2020 Husqvarna TPI fouled a few plugs, but was perfect other than that...but I sold it to by a new TM Racing 300cc ( I have a carb version, even though their throttle body injection is good too, with zero complaints from owners). But this thing has pep!!! Super happy with it!
You ever plan to swap out the engine with a BRC 510cc 2 stroke for your TC? I've met a few guys who owned them and they loved it...was a sweet powerful bike! and you can get the engine built too...hygge has pipes for them! ;)
@@jonathondavis170 I bought a ktm power parts 300 kit for my husky. When I need to do a top end I’ll throw that on and probably freshen up the bottom end and have a new 300 carb motor. That’s the plan anyway. I know not all TPI bikes do what mine did but it sure pissed me off when I was suggested to buy an ECU and an air screw mod for a bike that was almost $12000 OTD.
@@brandonbladen4691 absolutely! 💯 You aren't the only one...some bikes are lemons, just like people. lol Mine didn't run perfect all of the time, but my TM has been flawless...something just malfunctioned electronically on my new 450 Honda and taking it in tomorrow. I've loved it so far, and Honda said if it's a defective part they'll cover it - but it's brand new still, and changed spark plug and checked spark and other components...something with the fuel system is acting up, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. But I got a lemon here, but the bike is so friggin fun when it's working. lol That's part of the fun, though...bikes will break, and getting intimate knowledge about their design through hands-on experience is part of being a rider. It does suck though...they are money pits, but ya gotta pay to play. :) This Honda issue won't be too bad, cause it wants to turn over, but it won't...probably an injector or TSP or something...not as much as it's gonna be to get the XPR Motorsports engine from Chad during the summer. lol I already bought a trail tech fan, Red Moto in-line cooler, 2.0 radiator cap, engine ice, and Boyesen Supercooler and they are on the way! 💪Just got to get the damn thing running again with only 6 hours of run time. lol Is it not worth it in the end when you are pinning the throttle??? Love this sport!!!
Could you guys tell me where was this clip shot? Id love to ride there one day.
Yo let’s go Carson city motor sports!! Was just there today, best place to buy your bikes!
I would certainly like to see more enduro videos out of vital. more technical information. new products for enduro ect... way more people ride enduro where Im from than motocross and lets be honest the there are a ton of families in this world to. start at the bottom for the little kids and work your way to the top of the list for the dads/grandpas and throw out some enduro videos.
Do a 300xc moto test
I hope my credit Union approves my loan 🤞🏽
*WHY* would anyone buy a KTM after the fiasco that is the recall, Because the cranks are weaker they need the cdi back to retune - weaker, A plaster on a bleedin wound, Its _disgusting_ when a company values its profits over customer satisfaction
What’s the max speed
My favorite bike is the KTM
Sounds like there is no comparison at all
How do i choose between the 300tpi and KTM’s EXC350 four stroke ?
Ive rented the four stroke so many times, but for a bike to own ( Im late 50’s age ) I’m so tempted by the two stroke 300
Two strokes are much more challenging and snappy, coming from a rider who owns both, Nothing puts on a grin like the two smokers
all depends on your terrain you mostly ride. If it were tighter and more technical, id go 2T. Open, more flowy terrain, you could go 4T too. At 50 as well, gotta take into account the engine breaking of the 4 stroke, if there's a lot of starting and stopping it can get old....the 2 stroke will glide more and be easier on your body. The new Fuel injected 2 strokes are not nearly as snappy as the carbed ones so the power delivery is much more linear. Easier to control. Whatever you choose though, you get used to and can ride efficiently in the end. Good luck!
It should be obvious the answer is to buy BOTH
@@robvanduren761 lol...I have one ea and love them both 😁
If engine maintenance is a factor than the two stroke is cheaper to look after and being over fifty electric start is a must
I believe they mean torque not power,most of the time.
What is not to like about KTM/ husqvarna, really.
Other than Lindsey I love everything about the video. I don't trust him or like him he's the downside of the moto industry for me. Good work Ping your always a class act and great guy you are theain reason people watch this channel, noone else
Can’t please everyone.
I have a 2022 KTM 300 XC TPI.
A complete piece of crap from the 1st day.
Lack of power and engine misses from the 1st minutes.
KTM has the dealer looking at it now again since it seized 2 times once it had 7 hours on it. Has 7.4 hours now.
Has eveyone stumped as to the cause.
A 150cc 4 stroke has more power than this thing ever did.
It would not lift the front wheel off the ground in 1st gear!!!
These TPI bikes have a lot of unhappy owners and you either get a good one or a bad one.
Glad KTM is still looking into it.
You are ONE in a million then, its the greatest offroad bike for single track. '22 TPI is dialed in and so is their AIR FORK settings.
Wow! You definitely got a lemon. Seizing two times is certainly the proof something is wrong. Hope it will get sorted out and get what you pay for..
@@MXJEFF94 more like one in 50. or even closer to 1 in 30. The TPI's are amazing when they work, but they do have a significant issues with qc and reliability on a small percentage of the bikes.
I had to replace the ccps sensory on mine. It ran fine after that. Mine never seized though
@@davidsalinas5508 That has been replaced. It checked ok when pressure was applied and it held for 30 minutes. The electric readings were spot on also. The dealer later replaced it as a guess.
The tray that it fits into was upgraded. The hose & nipple on the engine was inspected and tested. So was the ambient air pressure sensor tested.
No change as result.
Yes everyone across the world knows to have a spare CCCP. 1 year ago KTM ran out of them world wide.
Hey!! Hello!?! This was an absolute insult. 5 bikes. Only one had ANY commentary. Evidently you no longer enjoy your job. I'm all over it!!
Im glad ive been lifting weights my entire life. Always the skinny dudes that choose the 150s and 200s. Grow some muscle and the 300 will provide all that fun factor. little fellers
I am an unashamedly KTM fan. But even I was uncomfortable with all the gushing about the 300. It was just obviously a paid promo.
Still waiting for the check! 😂 did they pay us to talk poorly on the GasGas 250 too?
@@vitalmx 😂😂
300 perfect power
man we all need to boycot electric bikes and china junk ev yeah those e mx bike got power but they dot have balls these 300 have brass gas bikes for life