The most humane way to harvest meat is hunting. Its the ultimate free range. So if you eat meat you can't hate hunters. Think of how beautiful a life a wild deer has vs a farm raised pig or chicken. Plus hunters are notorious for using every possible part of their kill. I promise you that deer's hide is sent to a leather tanner, all the meat is used, etc etc. Hunting just to kill though....that's sick.
Completely agree, as someone who shoots regularly and who works in the beef and lamb industry the difference is significant. I have seen lambs and cattle arriving at slaughterhouses in awful conditions by a farmer who is under paid and over worked. Hunting and processing your meat this way is by far the more natural and humane way, the beasts are allowed to roam free and every part of the animal is utilised, not thrown away due to low market demand as I see most days.
Totally agree, some commercial farming practices are really abhorrent. I don’t hunt myself although always fancied it, have to make do with a known farmer who does meat boxes. At least I know where the meat comes from and I trust them.
For those who think this is evil and sick, think about it more than what you just see. Deer numbers are soaring as there are no predators to hunt them anymore. Hunting deer is beneficial for humans and the deer population. Controlling the hunt respectfully and butchering the beautiful animal for the healthiest meat in the world for humans to consume is totally fine with me. I'd do that job anyway.
David Patterson the deer numbers are soaring if there was nothing being done there wouldn’t be enough food for all the deer and then you would have deer dying from starvation this is the most humane way to do so without introducing natural predators
Fair to call yourself a hunter now, welcome to the club young man,,you could see the maturity taking hold by the look in his eye,,job well done. That guide was top notch, one of the best in Scotland I suspect.
AAAAARGGGGHHH! YET AGAIN, another perverted, limp wristed plonker who loves the idea of killing defenceless animals that can't hit back, now coming on and telling us that this crap has something to do with becoming a REAL man. Bullshit! You want to be a real man? Let me see you do six months of hardcore boxing training! Or, how about working 15 hours a day in a low paid job - but putting up with it because you want to provide for your family? Or, how about heading down to the schemes and helping out people who are less fortunate than you? These are the things that real men do.
The guide is Niall Rowantree and you can find him doing a lot of work with the Fieldsports Britain team. He's a fantastic man with some incredible stories. Check out his interview with David Wright and you will find out how top notch the fella is.
@Wo Jak Wow! Here's how crazy your comment is: we're not arguing! That's right. There's NO WAY you're ever getting an argument out of me! I think you're a nut case and I've been around the block enough times to know not to mess with nut cases. So, happy new year and may you have a great day. Three cheers for you!
Man you guys haven't got a clue, the English dude as you put him is an absolute sik guy.... A proper legend. From the city a hard worker and obviously very open minded and willing to try and do new things. More young men should try to be like this dude! Respect bro and to you too vice!
I'm glad this doc shows the emotional aspect of hunting. It's not some burly drunk dude running through the woods and murdering everything he sees. There's a deep emotional connection between the hunter and the animal.
Who's the rookie intern you hired to record audio on this documentary? Apart from that, brilliant content throughout. Love Deer. Love Scotland. Love Vice.
guys i worked quite a stack at a game farm in south Africa and often you will find you shoot a pregnant female . when your shooting at 300 meters its neigh on impossible to tell sometimes and it really really fucking sucks when your eviscerating and you find a fetus i promise there isn't a single half decent hunter whose heart doesn't drop at the sight. we actually managed to once save a baby after we had shot the mother and we called him billy the tame blesbok
@@feuderali1234 I know but I'm saying that the hunter clearly saw he was uncomfortable and still did it. Probably laughed his arse off when he got home.
Yup! From the size it can only be either Red, Fallow, or Roe deer (The 3 largest of our 6 wild species) The hind (female) red deer have a larger creamier coloured bottom with an overhanging tail, whereas a Roe deer has a smaller in size white shaped bottom. Then the easiest way to distinguish between Red and Fallow deer, a fallow deer hide will have loads of white spots whereas a Red deer has a generally uniform colour.
It's so important to know where your food is coming from, and this video shows a side that you just dont think about when it's just food on your plate.
I never really understand why people shoot Hinds while in season or in general, I've always hunted for stags just so I don't run the risk of killing two animals in one.
This totally knocked me off guard. I thought they were supposed to preserve young females to keep the species thriving. That didn't seem like a very selective kill
The bear was an example. The reason why sports (football, UFC, boxing, baseball, soccer etc) are sports is because both teams (ex hunter/ pray) have an equal chance of winning. Here's a better example, when a lioness hunts a hog, its not a sport its hunting (for food). The term "hunting for sport" is used mainly to justify killing an animal for ornamental, or "pride" reasons. I am an active shooter and the times where I have hunted, its been for food, not for trophies (aka sport).
Hunting is the last pure link to our ancestors. You stalk, you kill, you eat. I learned from my elders the art of hunting and am passing it down to my children. Sad that so many have a wrong view of what it really is.
Why did you put a graphic content warning on this video where some deer are getting skinned and prepared to eat, but not the Syria videos, some of which contain shots of children with their stomachs literally sliced open by shrapnel with their guts spilling out? Not that I'm offended or anything, I just think it's weird that you apparently think the deer skinning is the more disturbing of the two things.
I didn't say I would do anything at all, it's pretty obvious by my post that I don't hunt. But still, thanks for the decent response, you bring up some good points unlike the many "smart" people on here.
A) They didn't think of adding a warning on their previous videos. B) The person who uploaded the Syria videos did not upload this video. Very likely one of the both.
I have no idea what you do once you've made the kill, I studied Animal Behaviour and ended up learning a little about deer in the UK lol. I think hunting in the UK is good, it seems to be on the incline. I'm a keen carp angler, I know they love that in Germany too so if the trout fishings too difficult, maybe give that a shot?
yeah it does, in some places. Where I live, deer are such a danger while driving, hunters are the only thing that keep them in check. Wolves used to have that job, but they were all hunted away centuries ago. The deer thrived without them. My sister nearly died because of a deer accident. Then you have Australia, which is in danger of being turned into desert, because of rabbits. People NEED to kill them or else the land will DIE. Life is brutal. Hunting is better than slaughter houses.
Love how people say its sick , this is humane compared to that pack you buy in the super-market it had a good life. Its nice to see a vice episode in Scotland (fellow scot) And of course it tastes delicious.
In case you didn't see the shot, he actually made the shot in the chest/heart of the deer. So, unlike the way you described, there was no blowing out of brains.
carnivores short intestines to pervent bacterial overgrow humans long intestines to digest fruits nuts plants.Teeth also proves it...You are not only ignorant you think you KNOW....What a combination....FACEPALM, you earned it
Without performing the process you just witnessed for thousands of years, your ancestors would have never lived long enough to give birth to more of your ancestors. Hunting IS in your blood whether you like it or not.
The protein has nothing to do with it. Its how we had to learn to get it is what grew us. Here's a fun fact; If it wasn't for beer, we may still be hunters and gatherers.
I am not opposed to hunting animals. Humans have done this for 50,000 plus year. But when he was cutting open that dear, and we got to see the baby deer that was inside. My heart sank. I saw the shock on his face when he saw that baby deer. You could see he felt bad about that. I would to for that matter.
Mathias, why not research the topic instead of prevaricating on here. There is a healthy head of deer in Scotland which without any natural predation requires human intervention to maintain the habitat and believe it or not the health and welfare of the deer herds. Without this management then the deer population would explode and their health decline. Well put together footage with personal feelings making it real for all to see.
There's a difference between accidentally causing grief and ruining someone's life. The baby won't have a good life. You're argument is entirely invalid and you're making really awful, unrelated analogies. The baby can't feel so it's better to end it's life then and there rather than making it grow up in a struggling household and for the mother's life to also be ruined by it. Who are you to say that someone can't control their own body?
Awesome and straight forward presentation - I appreciate the honest reporting and conveyance of true emotion and not an agenda. I am a hunter, what just transpired in the vids really surprised me. I was so anticipating a liberal meltdown and got ...reality and honesty. Thank you very much.
To be clear I'm talking about hunting as a hobby/sport. Where all they get out of killing animals is a kick, a photo op and a souvenir. That is very wrong. Yes I eat meat and no I'm not back pedaling.
I don't understand why people are against this.. They're doing this to preserve the ecosystem. Furthermore, buying and eating meat from some supermarket is actually MUCH MUCH worse. The animals had a horrible life (battery farmed), and were most probably killed very inhumanely... Claiming this hunting shown is wrong is in my opinion extremely hypocritical... I would actually not mind going on one of these hunts, I would most probably develop a deeper respect for the things I eat...
Just pointing out, not trying to offend you, but that's actually the point of the cull, and why it happens at that time of year. In many Scottish Ecosystems, caribou have no natural predators (if you disclude man), so without the annual cull, caribou population gets too large, which is bad for the ecosystem.
i used too work for a gamekeeper here in edinburgh, he grew up as a child on a deer stalking estate... i swear you could drop that man in the forrest and mountains with nothing more than a toothpick and a pair of wellies and he would thrive...
actually it's the other way around! in fact - if no one ate any meat, we could easily feed many more humans than there are right now because of all the food, water and infrastructure that goes into meat production!
The most humane way to harvest meat is hunting. Its the ultimate free range. So if you eat meat you can't hate hunters. Think of how beautiful a life a wild deer has vs a farm raised pig or chicken. Plus hunters are notorious for using every possible part of their kill. I promise you that deer's hide is sent to a leather tanner, all the meat is used, etc etc.
Hunting just to kill though....that's sick.
Completely agree, as someone who shoots regularly and who works in the beef and lamb industry the difference is significant. I have seen lambs and cattle arriving at slaughterhouses in awful conditions by a farmer who is under paid and over worked. Hunting and processing your meat this way is by far the more natural and humane way, the beasts are allowed to roam free and every part of the animal is utilised, not thrown away due to low market demand as I see most days.
Preppy Shooter HEAR HEAR! I thank you for your common sense
Totally agree, some commercial farming practices are really abhorrent. I don’t hunt myself although always fancied it, have to make do with a known farmer who does meat boxes. At least I know where the meat comes from and I trust them.
For those who think this is evil and sick, think about it more than what you just see. Deer numbers are soaring as there are no predators to hunt them anymore. Hunting deer is beneficial for humans and the deer population. Controlling the hunt respectfully and butchering the beautiful animal for the healthiest meat in the world for humans to consume is totally fine with me. I'd do that job anyway.
Your an idiot if you actually read into it you would find that it is not beneficial to the population but hurts the population.
+Willie Stroker *You're
+Willie Stroker that's not true at all. I don't know where you heard that.
David Patterson the deer numbers are soaring if there was nothing being done there wouldn’t be enough food for all the deer and then you would have deer dying from starvation this is the most humane way to do so without introducing natural predators
I suspect Scotland has plenty of grass to feed the soaring population. @@idky2685
I'm a veggie and I watched this. No complaint here. I respect people willing to investigate where their food comes from.
This guy is my favorite vice journalist.
Fair to call yourself a hunter now, welcome to the club young man,,you could see the maturity taking hold by the look in his eye,,job well done.
That guide was top notch, one of the best in Scotland I suspect.
Aye came across as a true professional and a nice fella ta boot
AAAAARGGGGHHH! YET AGAIN, another perverted, limp wristed plonker who loves the idea of killing defenceless animals that can't hit back, now coming on and telling us that this crap has something to do with becoming a REAL man. Bullshit!
You want to be a real man? Let me see you do six months of hardcore boxing training! Or, how about working 15 hours a day in a low paid job - but putting up with it because you want to provide for your family? Or, how about heading down to the schemes and helping out people who are less fortunate than you? These are the things that real men do.
David Connelly do you eat meat?
The guide is Niall Rowantree and you can find him doing a lot of work with the Fieldsports Britain team. He's a fantastic man with some incredible stories. Check out his interview with David Wright and you will find out how top notch the fella is.
@Wo Jak Wow! Here's how crazy your comment is: we're not arguing! That's right. There's NO WAY you're ever getting an argument out of me! I think you're a nut case and I've been around the block enough times to know not to mess with nut cases. So, happy new year and may you have a great day. Three cheers for you!
Man you guys haven't got a clue, the English dude as you put him is an absolute sik guy.... A proper legend. From the city a hard worker and obviously very open minded and willing to try and do new things. More young men should try to be like this dude! Respect bro and to you too vice!
Hes crying over hunting lmaoo
Rory mayoh I do respect his capacity to try new things, but calling him a hard worker is a bit of a stretch.
Vice does it once again, dope documentaries till no end...
Awesome video! Thank you for showing hunting in a positive light.
The feelings he must of felt after seeing the dead baby deer. It was a good hunt though and there was alot of respect
I can speak from experience that finding a deer with a fawn fetus is never easy.
thanks for keeping it real, Vice. nice to see my country on here
I'm glad this doc shows the emotional aspect of hunting. It's not some burly drunk dude running through the woods and murdering everything he sees. There's a deep emotional connection between the hunter and the animal.
Where the closed captions say "inaudible" he said "pull the stomach away". Just in case you were wondering
this is something i never wanted to see but im glade i did, it gave me a new respect for hunting
the fact that you took the time to warn us is really delightful. futile, granted, but really quite nice.
Who's the rookie intern you hired to record audio on this documentary? Apart from that, brilliant content throughout. Love Deer. Love Scotland. Love Vice.
Awesome doc and excellent raw reporting.
guys i worked quite a stack at a game farm in south Africa and often you will find you shoot a pregnant female . when your shooting at 300 meters its neigh on impossible to tell sometimes and it really really fucking sucks when your eviscerating and you find a fetus i promise there isn't a single half decent hunter whose heart doesn't drop at the sight. we actually managed to once save a baby after we had shot the mother and we called him billy the tame blesbok
Watch this entirely before you judge! This is raw reality at its finest!
The dears face on the thumbnail is why i clicked. Its so funny LOL
I think this was a very informative documentary showing hunting as a way to be able to stay in such a remote region, presented in an objective way.
just a natural and cultural medium that humans have done for thousands of years, good for you Vice for showing it frankly
Those things taste great.
Great Documentary, Thankyou Vice!!!
Vice always has the best intro songs!
"it looks like a 'Geiger' drawing" love that line lol
great documentary thanks for the good work !
He's a good man for doing this, and recognizing in some way that the skinning and gutting was "justifying 25 years of eating muscle meat".
5:14 that break
the worst thing you can do is kill a dear and not eat it and some other stuff like torture but mostly not eating it
I love how the hunter actively went out of his way to make him uncomfertable by rubbing the blood on his face 😂😂😂
That's called blooding, it's a tradition when someone gets their first kill.
@@feuderali1234
I know but I'm saying that the hunter clearly saw he was uncomfortable and still did it. Probably laughed his arse off when he got home.
Very interesting, thanks for a good documentary, Vice. I like the reporter a lot, too.
Nice video. I'd love to get up that way next time I'm in Scotland. Beautiful scenery and great people.
There is such quality on youtube these days
great vid vice keep it up
Yup! From the size it can only be either Red, Fallow, or Roe deer (The 3 largest of our 6 wild species)
The hind (female) red deer have a larger creamier coloured bottom with an overhanging tail, whereas a Roe deer has a smaller in size white shaped bottom. Then the easiest way to distinguish between Red and Fallow deer, a fallow deer hide will have loads of white spots whereas a Red deer has a generally uniform colour.
Great video Vice, I go hunting every year here in Oregon.
Great documentary. People need to see this.
You're right, i forgot to mention during over populated areas. That's why the special tags when over population occurs. My neighbor was fined last yr
Wasn't expecting that, nice video
i think vice should do a hunting series
It's so important to know where your food is coming from, and this video shows a side that you just dont think about when it's just food on your plate.
I'm of celtic descent, never been to Scotland.
This straight up made me homesick.
the foetus has left me speechless
I never really understand why people shoot Hinds while in season or in general, I've always hunted for stags just so I don't run the risk of killing two animals in one.
This totally knocked me off guard. I thought they were supposed to preserve young females to keep the species thriving. That didn't seem like a very selective kill
Great Job Vice! Keep putting these kids in crazy situations. The more you know!
The bear was an example. The reason why sports (football, UFC, boxing, baseball, soccer etc) are sports is because both teams (ex hunter/ pray) have an equal chance of winning. Here's a better example, when a lioness hunts a hog, its not a sport its hunting (for food). The term "hunting for sport" is used mainly to justify killing an animal for ornamental, or "pride" reasons. I am an active shooter and the times where I have hunted, its been for food, not for trophies (aka sport).
that moment with the baby deer really touched...
Great story, Vice.
That deer fetus was haunting
Thanks for your concern!
Great video. Can't wait to see how similar Alex's and Joe Rogan's experiences were when the air Joe's first hunt with Steve Rinella.
Hunting is the last pure link to our ancestors. You stalk, you kill, you eat. I learned from my elders the art of hunting and am passing it down to my children.
Sad that so many have a wrong view of what it really is.
good vid. thanks vice
i respect your point of view .....my self ....i love hunting .
Why did you put a graphic content warning on this video where some deer are getting skinned and prepared to eat, but not the Syria videos, some of which contain shots of children with their stomachs literally sliced open by shrapnel with their guts spilling out? Not that I'm offended or anything, I just think it's weird that you apparently think the deer skinning is the more disturbing of the two things.
man i thught that was really informative iv nvr seen an animal butchured befor its so precise O__O
The amount of people commenting on this video that have never hunted astounds me.
I didn't say I would do anything at all, it's pretty obvious by my post that I don't hunt. But still, thanks for the decent response, you bring up some good points unlike the many "smart" people on here.
You kind of lost your moral high ground with that last word, sir.
Great doco....shame the sound is a bit fucked. Really enjoyed these!! I'm hungry now...
A) They didn't think of adding a warning on their previous videos.
B) The person who uploaded the Syria videos did not upload this video.
Very likely one of the both.
It would have been funny if VICE had sent the "all around loser" to scotland for this. haha
I have no idea what you do once you've made the kill, I studied Animal Behaviour and ended up learning a little about deer in the UK lol. I think hunting in the UK is good, it seems to be on the incline. I'm a keen carp angler, I know they love that in Germany too so if the trout fishings too difficult, maybe give that a shot?
ye. i didnt want to start a ethic discussion (especially not on youtube). but i understand your position.
I've hunting boar a whole lot but this is one hunt I would love to take part in a stalk like this.
yeah it does, in some places. Where I live, deer are such a danger while driving, hunters are the only thing that keep them in check. Wolves used to have that job, but they were all hunted away centuries ago. The deer thrived without them. My sister nearly died because of a deer accident.
Then you have Australia, which is in danger of being turned into desert, because of rabbits. People NEED to kill them or else the land will DIE. Life is brutal. Hunting is better than slaughter houses.
why did they rip the deers jaws apart. was it part of the skinning process or what?
Love how people say its sick , this is humane compared to that pack you buy in the super-market it had a good life. Its nice to see a vice episode in Scotland (fellow scot) And of course it tastes delicious.
wow I wouldn't want you within a mile holding a loaded gun the way you do
Oh I misread. I meant it's worse in farms and slaughterhouses. Sorry about that.
In case you didn't see the shot, he actually made the shot in the chest/heart of the deer. So, unlike the way you described, there was no blowing out of brains.
carnivores short intestines to pervent bacterial overgrow humans long intestines to digest fruits nuts plants.Teeth also proves it...You are not only ignorant you think you KNOW....What a combination....FACEPALM, you earned it
Without performing the process you just witnessed for thousands of years, your ancestors would have never lived long enough to give birth to more of your ancestors. Hunting IS in your blood whether you like it or not.
I was waiting for that one guy to bring up the middle east in this hunting video. Good work,Im glad I can predict things accurately.
I'm confused if you guys watched the video, Alex constantly brings up that this is more humane than any of the animal farms.
Can people stop arguing over whether we should or shouldn't eat meat... Arguing on a youtube video is going to change the world. Except my mood..
It made complete and total since to me, read it again with an open mind.
fare enough, im not saying i burst into tears or anything :-/ and it has faded with time, but it is still there even for a milisecond.
If you agree with them, that the deer fetus, "is a deer", then a human fetus, "is a human".
the calf broke my heart
The protein has nothing to do with it. Its how we had to learn to get it is what grew us. Here's a fun fact; If it wasn't for beer, we may still be hunters and gatherers.
Pretty good documentary
I am not opposed to hunting animals. Humans have done this for 50,000 plus year. But when he was cutting open that dear, and we got to see the baby deer that was inside. My heart sank. I saw the shock on his face when he saw that baby deer. You could see he felt bad about that. I would to for that matter.
Mathias, why not research the topic instead of prevaricating on here. There is a healthy head of deer in Scotland which without any natural predation requires human intervention to maintain the habitat and believe it or not the health and welfare of the deer herds. Without this management then the deer population would explode and their health decline. Well put together footage with personal feelings making it real for all to see.
How insightful.
So when you ask her why she's crying she says, "It's nothing, I'm fine?"
Well done. ATB, RoeStalker
my father used to say - if you're vegan, you ain't hungry.
There's a difference between accidentally causing grief and ruining someone's life. The baby won't have a good life. You're argument is entirely invalid and you're making really awful, unrelated analogies. The baby can't feel so it's better to end it's life then and there rather than making it grow up in a struggling household and for the mother's life to also be ruined by it. Who are you to say that someone can't control their own body?
yes that is very true. but my point was towards animals like chickens and cows ect. which aptly recognized in my general claim.
Awesome and straight forward presentation - I appreciate the honest reporting and conveyance of true emotion and not an agenda. I am a hunter, what just transpired in the vids really surprised me. I was so anticipating a liberal meltdown and got ...reality and honesty. Thank you very much.
If you've never killed an animal for sustenance then you aren't living up to your instinctual obligations. Farmers/hunters.
To be clear I'm talking about hunting as a hobby/sport. Where all they get out of killing animals is a kick, a photo op and a souvenir. That is very wrong. Yes I eat meat and no I'm not back pedaling.
i dont understand why people get so angry over hunting for food. its far more humane than how the vast majority of meat makes it to your table...
Good job!
I don't understand why people are against this.. They're doing this to preserve the ecosystem. Furthermore, buying and eating meat from some supermarket is actually MUCH MUCH worse. The animals had a horrible life (battery farmed), and were most probably killed very inhumanely... Claiming this hunting shown is wrong is in my opinion extremely hypocritical... I would actually not mind going on one of these hunts, I would most probably develop a deeper respect for the things I eat...
Just pointing out, not trying to offend you, but that's actually the point of the cull, and why it happens at that time of year. In many Scottish Ecosystems, caribou have no natural predators (if you disclude man), so without the annual cull, caribou population gets too large, which is bad for the ecosystem.
i used too work for a gamekeeper here in edinburgh, he grew up as a child on a deer stalking estate... i swear you could drop that man in the forrest and mountains with nothing more than a toothpick and a pair of wellies and he would thrive...
Isn't that an old myth that they still mow down rainforests for farmland? If not, where have you read it is so?
actually it's the other way around! in fact - if no one ate any meat, we could easily feed many more humans than there are right now because of all the food, water and infrastructure that goes into meat production!