Matty Johns lifts lid on 2008 GF & what went so wrong for the Melbourne Storm | Matty Johns Podcast

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  • Twelve years after Melbourne's most embarrassing loss, insider Matty Johns has revealed how Storm's famous 0-40 defeat to Manly in the 2008 grand final went so wrong.
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  • @benbrennan4953
    @benbrennan4953 3 года назад +73

    Wow a conversation about the game and not the politics of the game. How refreshing!!

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 3 года назад +33

    I’m not a manly supporter, but watching the manly mascot celebrate with the players made me smile.

    • @jparko4944
      @jparko4944 2 года назад

      Awesome stuff. Was at that game, and every home game that year bar one. 'Egor the Eagle' (the mascot) always seemed to be the last one off the pitch cause every kid at Brookie wanted a high-five or a photo. They adored him, and that lap for the ankle-biters always made me smile. Had a real unpolished Sesame Street footy fan vibe to him. Especially compared to The Storm's stupid Marvel-wannabe mascot:P

  • @lou_sasoul1578
    @lou_sasoul1578 3 года назад +26

    If you actually want to 'lift the lid' talk about how the Storm were millions of dollars over the salary cap for years leading up to this final

    • @noblevisions643
      @noblevisions643 Год назад

      calm down champion is was barely 2 million

    • @Tonymarshall11
      @Tonymarshall11 Год назад

      @@noblevisions643 it’s getting to ya that people keep saying millions aye 😂

  • @kingjamez5934
    @kingjamez5934 3 года назад +33

    Was at that final, not a manly fan but my dad is and it was awesome game to be at 🙌🏽 the atmosphere was insane! Especially when beaver went over for his try!!

    • @kingjamez5934
      @kingjamez5934 Год назад

      @Keep It Simple LMAO

    • @kingjamez5934
      @kingjamez5934 Год назад

      @Keep It Simple Augustus Gloop…..save some
      for later

  • @sja1453
    @sja1453 3 года назад +40

    It was less about Melbourne’s demise and more about the fact that the 2008 Manly side is to this day the best club team of all time. Still never seen football like it, the 110 - 12 finals run almost doesn’t even do it justice, absolutely everything clicked.

    • @george-henryleo5040
      @george-henryleo5040 2 года назад +4

      40-0 speaks for itself

    • @mitchellfitzgerald1739
      @mitchellfitzgerald1739 2 года назад

      @@ljnouata9088 how'd that streak go champ 🇺🇦

    • @ljnouata9088
      @ljnouata9088 2 года назад

      @@mitchellfitzgerald1739 how’d your team go? Still hold the 19 game winning streak. Let’s see your team do that

    • @rokomalani432
      @rokomalani432 2 года назад

      @@ljnouata9088 Streaks don't matter of you don't win a Championship while you're at it. Eels prevented Storm from making History mate. Better luck next time. 2008 Manly > 2021 Storm or any Storm ever.

    • @ljnouata9088
      @ljnouata9088 2 года назад

      @@rokomalani432 exactly. When’s the last time Eels won the Comp
      Champ 🤣🤣🤣 when’s the last time Manly won. Storm>watever team you support. Did your team even make the top 8 🤣

  • @antoniedobbe781
    @antoniedobbe781 3 года назад +58

    Blocker needs to stop interrupting stories

    • @davemckagan635
      @davemckagan635 3 года назад +5

      He needs to be fired as a commentator. His whining during games is insufferable.

    • @laopakse760
      @laopakse760 3 года назад +2

      He’s like the kid off The Castle

    • @critterwatene8073
      @critterwatene8073 2 года назад +2

      Hes a clown.

    • @Gamminn
      @Gamminn Год назад

      Fuk off you dog cunts he’s the best

  • @Mikequalitycontrol
    @Mikequalitycontrol 3 года назад +13

    If you really think about Greg Inglis single handedly destroyed the Broncos confidence for years

  • @roryhofmans9481
    @roryhofmans9481 3 года назад +34

    Are we really gonna forget the fact that Melbourne were cheating the salary cap? As far as I’m concerned a lot of what the Melbourne Storm contributed during the 05-10 seasons isn’t monumental at all. If anything, it showed how extraordinary Manly were to compete in either of those Grand Finals. The same can be said for the 06’ Broncos and the 09’ Eels

    • @b33san47
      @b33san47 3 года назад +3

      I agree completely.

    • @Midnight-kn7mg
      @Midnight-kn7mg 3 года назад +3

      Manly were unstoppable during that 08 finals series

    • @bksiv
      @bksiv 3 года назад +3

      Rory Hofmans obviously not illegal but Dessy’s back ended contracts actually had a similar effect to the Storm’s brown paper bag payments. Keeping a squad worth more than the cap together.

    • @roryhofmans9481
      @roryhofmans9481 3 года назад +3

      @@bksiv I can see the logic. But as you said; it’s not illegal 😂. I would also argue that none of those names come close to the collaborative works of Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk, and Greg Inglis, which would lead into another of my arguments but I don’t really want to get into the Sham Storm legacy 😂

    • @Fuzcapp
      @Fuzcapp Год назад +2

      And the grapple tackles and the head highs, and the chicken wing tackles and the forward passes from dummy half by Cameron Smith all the time, and Billy Slaters boots first studs up sliding at try scorers, and the late elbows on try scorers which was a common bonus if you scored against Melbourne back then, and the intimidation of the referees and the buckets of money given to them by News Corp and the absolute utter cheating on the salary cap - the Melbourne club of that era (early 2000s) was a total grub club from top to bottom.

  • @sd097
    @sd097 3 года назад +36

    The grubs were cheating they were millions over the cap and got beat 40-0 biggest loss in a grand final

    • @noblevisions643
      @noblevisions643 Год назад +2

      ease up champion they were only a million and a half over the cap not "millions"

    • @markmoffat597
      @markmoffat597 Месяц назад

      @@noblevisions643yep. At that million was sitting on the sidelines (smith)

  • @96model96
    @96model96 2 года назад +8

    That '08 Semi final against the Broncos is still the single greatest Rugby League game i've seen

  • @rodneymatthews1891
    @rodneymatthews1891 3 года назад +7

    great chat. found it very interesting

  • @b33san47
    @b33san47 3 года назад +21

    I remember Lockyer breaking down after losing to the Storms, the game was so emotional. Brisbane sould have been the ones going to the finals that year against Manly.

    • @atak1_
      @atak1_ 2 года назад +6

      Would have not won 😂

    • @jacobmurphy423
      @jacobmurphy423 2 года назад +1

      @@atak1_ i think they do

    • @atak1_
      @atak1_ 2 года назад +7

      jacob Murphy mate there not gonna win a team with Matty orford Brett Stewart both centres and wingers in their prime mate that manly team was too strong

    • @SpongebobsRippedPant
      @SpongebobsRippedPant 2 года назад +2

      @@jacobmurphy423 We already thrashed you guys that year lol

    • @jacobmurphy423
      @jacobmurphy423 2 года назад

      @@SpongebobsRippedPant when grandpa Brisbane would've won for me momentum Wayne Bennett would've got them up for it and I reckon would've schooled manly

  • @adthomp
    @adthomp 2 года назад +2

    i love the grand final stories like this!

  • @loonyleper
    @loonyleper 3 года назад +10

    The answer: a crazy little thing called karma

    • @terangitepou8001
      @terangitepou8001 3 года назад

      Cam smith didnt play

    • @8CSKN8
      @8CSKN8 3 года назад

      @@terangitepou8001 still cheated the cap

  • @samueltalim9220
    @samueltalim9220 2 года назад

    This podcast and the topic about Manly's best grand final ever is one of Joeys favourite 😊😊

  • @cooperbaker8144
    @cooperbaker8144 8 дней назад

    What a chat! love this sorta stuff!

  • @LoganInThailand
    @LoganInThailand 3 года назад +9

    Always admired that Manly side. They weren't a bunch of superstars. They just played football and stood by each other. DCE destroyed that club.

    • @PongLenis1
      @PongLenis1 8 месяцев назад

      How did he destroy it?

  • @ribatlawrence2890
    @ribatlawrence2890 2 года назад +6

    Come on Matty!!! Even if Cameron Smith was there he wouldn't have done shxt!! Manly came back for PURE REVENGE for the previous grand final!!! They thought they where going to get away with the 2007 grand final 34-8 against Manly.
    Damn that wasn't forgotten by the boys a year after!! As a loyal Manly fan, I didn't forget one bit!
    But the boys came back gooooood!!! And haaaaaard!!! 40-0???? Topping it off with sending The Beaver off with his final try!! 🤭♥️🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
    HAILLLLLLL THE MIGHTY MANLY SEA EAGLES!!!!!! 🦅

  • @brettmitchell8
    @brettmitchell8 7 месяцев назад

    I started following manly in 97 when Matty here and of course Andrew beat us in the last minute with possibly the most famous grand final try in the last 40 years.
    My birthday is the 3rd of October (Grand final day in 08) turned 19 in 08 was young and drinking like a fish with my mates, when the beaver went over I cried. Followed em all the way from NewCastles win over em to see the Great Steve Menzies score.
    Best Birthday ever I’ve never been so emotional as an adult. Awesome for a sea eagle fan

  • @lukeharkin7
    @lukeharkin7 2 года назад +3

    Funny with the 40 nil. Manly missed alot of conversions probably should of been 50 nil

  • @OZIPUG1970
    @OZIPUG1970 2 года назад +7

    40-0 against cheating pricks full of talent.Inglis, Folau ,Cronk and Slater gets whooped by the best team ever.

  • @TheTrueHeroes
    @TheTrueHeroes 3 года назад +1

    I dunno why they keep saying it was a chicken wing. Cameron Smith made contact around Thaiday's head and was pulling up on it, potentially hurting his neck.

  • @ozziebloke6293
    @ozziebloke6293 3 года назад +5

    All you had to say was Smith didn't play. That Melbourne side was like the old Newcastle side without joey.

    • @jageroce7596
      @jageroce7596 3 года назад +2

      It really wasn't

    • @Nile15rush_fj
      @Nile15rush_fj 3 года назад +1

      No way that Melbourne side had far more star power. X factor players

    • @rokomalani432
      @rokomalani432 2 года назад +1

      They didn't need an extra referee.

    • @camerontheodore3036
      @camerontheodore3036 2 года назад +1

      Weren't Melbourne way over the salary cap? Manly in 08 finals were probably the greatest finals team in history. 110-12 in the finals is crazy.

    • @McOzman479
      @McOzman479 Год назад

      No player is worth 40 points

  • @grahamb.4447
    @grahamb.4447 3 года назад +6

    Manly won the preceding games 38-6 and 32-6.

    • @weststigers1879
      @weststigers1879 2 года назад

      Manly scored 110 points and only conceded 12 in three finals games.

  • @matts3191
    @matts3191 3 года назад +9

    I’ll tell you what went wrong, Matty was on the storm coaching staff😂

    • @ribatlawrence2890
      @ribatlawrence2890 2 года назад

      Gold 😂😂😂
      And then he blame it on Smith not playing 😂😂😂

  • @thomasdaniel2669
    @thomasdaniel2669 10 месяцев назад

    Manly sweep that finals series 108-6 in their three games.
    Other than the GF record of 40- 0, they have the biggest for and and against finals series record of all time. 🦅🦅🦅😊😊

  • @laopakse760
    @laopakse760 Год назад +1

    That’s a long chat for “cam smith didn’t play”

  • @striiveix1692
    @striiveix1692 3 года назад +2

    What went wrong: everything

  • @roderickhutchinson5447
    @roderickhutchinson5447 Год назад +1

    As a manly fan it was superb. We won against the dirtiest team in professional football history. Every low act came out of Melbourne playbook.

    • @noblevisions643
      @noblevisions643 Год назад

      didnt the inbred manly club get done for salary cal cheating too 4 years ago like the inbreds that they are 😂😂

    • @noblevisions643
      @noblevisions643 Год назад

      $750K over the cap exactly half of what melbourne was

  • @owenkenafack849
    @owenkenafack849 Год назад

    I love blocker wat an absolute beast

  • @mrpopo5097
    @mrpopo5097 9 месяцев назад

    It’s wild how a the storm team had slayer, Cronk, smith and Inglis and still lost 40-0

    • @brettmitchell8
      @brettmitchell8 7 месяцев назад

      No Smith, but they had a hell of a side. Big money for big name players. Only a couple of million over the cap ya know 😂

    • @Detoritte
      @Detoritte 6 месяцев назад

      Cameron Smith didn't play, he was suspended for a dangerous tackle on a Broncos player.

  • @Nate-on5xm
    @Nate-on5xm 2 года назад

    The thrashed was hard to swallow

  • @cameronjohns8639
    @cameronjohns8639 8 месяцев назад

    For the best Kentys missus took one for the team I reckon

  • @JJSPARROW1978
    @JJSPARROW1978 3 года назад

    Duck eggs anyone? Melbourne? Do I send them to Melbourne or Sunshine coast?

  • @cjd8ven528
    @cjd8ven528 3 года назад

    🦅🦅💪💪

  • @neilkruse835
    @neilkruse835 3 года назад +7

    Wow. Matty actually praising the Storm for coming back in 2009? Seriously? They were running the most sophisticated salary cap rort in Australian sporting history. To not even mention that is pretty disingenuous. Now I admire the Storm for coming back after their 2010 punishment to legitimately win the comp in 2012. That was fantastic. What I don't admire is what Melbourne did from 2006 to 2010.

  • @wacka2489
    @wacka2489 Год назад

    If Ashton sims didn't drop the ball seconds to go before full-time against storm (he ran the ball up like it was the start of the game) Broncos would've most likely won the grand final. ps,but it's only a game

    • @tynanjones
      @tynanjones Год назад +2

      No one was beating manly that year

  • @Fuzcapp
    @Fuzcapp Год назад

    Bellamy's idiotic siege mentality. Melbourne were a grub club from top to bottom in that era.

  • @laffo1980
    @laffo1980 3 года назад +7

    Yeh the storm won the grand final the next year by cheating the salary cap

    • @superchickenmilk
      @superchickenmilk 3 года назад +6

      The thing is they were cheating in 08 as well and lost 40-0...

  • @sd097
    @sd097 3 года назад

    People forget the Melbourne grubs were millions over the salary cap and couldn't score 1 pont grubs

  • @peterstarr5123
    @peterstarr5123 2 года назад

    Is the public excuse forum for Melbourne

  • @ziggyhogan7560
    @ziggyhogan7560 3 года назад +1

    No mention that they had a million more on the park in 07 08 09 and if they lost 40 nil without smith i imagine without spending a million more than there opposition those grand finals would have been very different. Never forget the did not win 07 and 09 they rob every other team of that chance

  • @rodsturgiss624
    @rodsturgiss624 Год назад

    Rate cronk better than smith imo leaves melb goes to roosters wins the next 2 grand finals

  • @noobishly66
    @noobishly66 Год назад

    Salary cap cheats and still lose 40-nil, and people still making excuses why they lost.

  • @yt.damian
    @yt.damian 3 года назад +4

    Yeeehah. 40 f@#$ing Nil.

  • @sallymay24
    @sallymay24 3 года назад +1

    That’s why storm always take the week if any player is ever charged now ...Jesse was charged a couple weeks a go got rid of his 75 points now back down to 0 Christian was charged last week and has taken this week and will now be back down to 0 ...what happened to Cameron will NEVER EVER happen at our club ever again

  • @peterjongsma2779
    @peterjongsma2779 2 года назад

    Am I going mad?
    Melbourne won in a tight fought game .18 16.
    2008.
    Am I going mad?

    • @MegaBadseed
      @MegaBadseed Год назад +1

      I think you’re going mad.

  • @scottjones2350
    @scottjones2350 20 дней назад

    Only won the comp the next year cos the cheatin bastards were over the cap!
    EELS 2009 Champs

  • @michaelmcfadden9699
    @michaelmcfadden9699 Год назад

    Yes the storm cheated the cap , get over it they clearly proved in the decade since there still the benchmark. And to be honest I'm not a storm man but they probably win those comps with out cheating in 07 and 09. , They built around those big 3 learnt they could still be successful , . But yes the club deserved what they got at the time cheating.

    • @icmull
      @icmull Год назад

      They did create all those players. Not like the Roosters just buying them.

  • @spazbog123
    @spazbog123 3 года назад +2

    40-0.

  • @simonpapik6365
    @simonpapik6365 2 года назад

    Cameron Smith was reported and didn't play

  • @xeftones
    @xeftones 3 года назад +1

    No Cameron Smith. That's what happened

    • @Kiwiz1830
      @Kiwiz1830 2 года назад

      And Hoffman too

    • @camerontheodore3036
      @camerontheodore3036 2 года назад

      And way over the salary cap.

    • @McOzman479
      @McOzman479 Год назад

      You really think smith is worth 40 points

    • @xeftones
      @xeftones Год назад

      @@McOzman479 he wouldn't have scored 40 points but the team dynamic, direction and game plan would have dramatically changed. Once a team has its head down the opposition can pile the points on.

  • @terangitepou8001
    @terangitepou8001 3 года назад

    Cam smith didnt play

  • @peterstarr5123
    @peterstarr5123 2 года назад

    Yeah they won it in 09 because they cheated

  • @boganbob2708
    @boganbob2708 3 года назад +4

    In Rugby League players poll, an overwhelming 49% of players agreed that the Storm were the dirtiest team in the competition.

    • @takenwalk6713
      @takenwalk6713 3 года назад +1

      Bogan Bob do you have the link

    • @boganbob2708
      @boganbob2708 3 года назад

      @@takenwalk6713 Google. RLW players poll. Storm whinging about winning the award and PC culture forced the question to be dropped from the questionnaire.

    • @takenwalk6713
      @takenwalk6713 3 года назад +1

      Bogan Bob ok here’s a question are you still stucked up of over 11 years ago?

    • @boganbob2708
      @boganbob2708 3 года назад +1

      @@takenwalk6713 11 years ago??? Please.. You still stuck on the Storm being the biggest grubs in the competition? Maybe the dirty way they cheated financially? Or perhaps how they treated Alex McKinnon? The filth they put out on the field? If you knew any current NRL players, or even park rugby league players you would know they still think the same. While the question may have stopped the answer still remains the same.

    • @takenwalk6713
      @takenwalk6713 3 года назад +1

      Bogan Bob ok so you are but as a storm fan I’ll say they got what they deserved ok but you can’t say that the players knew they didn’t write their checks that’s the ceo that does that so you can’t go out and say that the players knew about that and they are grubs but now the roosters are doing the same thing and no one is talking about that they lost that final and got stripped of the other 2 they deserve that but that was 11 years ago mate stop talking about it and if Storm were coming last every year no one would talk about the things they did

  • @ljnouata9088
    @ljnouata9088 2 года назад

    Storm destroy Manly again in the Finals 2021. Puts 40 on Manly, nothing new 🤣

    • @bus5683
      @bus5683 2 года назад

      You have a mint f6

    • @joesmith8044
      @joesmith8044 Год назад

      Was that in a Grand Final? I think not

    • @atak1_
      @atak1_ Год назад

      if you think storm are better then manly your just dumb we have first of all MORE premierships IMMORTALS LEGENDS storm have cheated the cap that’s the only way they won they had an over cap team and won but when it came to 2016 and 2018 what happened exaclty youse lost can’t win without an over cap team