Helldivers 2 Reviews Just Tanked...

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  • Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
  • Sony just mandated PSN account linking for Helldivers 2 the other day, and since then the community has been in an uproar. We went over an article from Paul Tassi covering the breaking news and also gave our thoughts.
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  • @juggalo_kronikturdzgaming7075
    @juggalo_kronikturdzgaming7075 29 дней назад +720

    Cross: "I believe we are still part of the helldivers community".
    Me: still waiting on the next installment of "This Week In Democracy"

    • @adarkwind4712
      @adarkwind4712 28 дней назад +6

      Fr.

    • @marty_mcfly_jr
      @marty_mcfly_jr 28 дней назад +16

      right. it's because it's a flash in the pan game because he was bored and needed content because destiny didn't.

    • @loopygordo
      @loopygordo 28 дней назад +28

      ​@@marty_mcfly_jr helldives maintains an incredible player count. Its not a flash in the pan game lmao.

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 28 дней назад +7

      @@loopygordo unfortunately, that could change soon with this news

    • @Jonononon
      @Jonononon 28 дней назад +4

      @@marty_mcfly_jr it has more players than destiny. Double the count even sometimes

  • @tannerhighley5782
    @tannerhighley5782 29 дней назад +488

    Sony watched BattleState Games (creators of Tarkov) piss off their entire community within a day and said “bet we can do it faster.”

    • @robf
      @robf 29 дней назад +12

      Not even remotely similar. Paywalling exclusive features behind hundreds of dollars compared with asking people to sign up to something as part of a $40 dollar game. One is annoying the other is egregious greed.

    • @kogden8110
      @kogden8110 29 дней назад +26

      @@robfit’s not just “annoying” for the people who can’t create PSN accounts in their country and thus can’t play the game they payed for. At least the Tarkov expansion is optional.
      Edit: and it is about greed. Sony wants this because it lets them take a higher percentage of revenue from purchases on steam, and they can sell the data from those making an account for a profit.

    • @Terrince_Tate
      @Terrince_Tate 29 дней назад +3

      The problem is that players are being FORCED to create an account to play a game that isn't on Sony's platform. No other PS game has this requirement.
      This tactic doesn't benefit PC players in any way whatsoever. F! Sony!

    • @123TheCloop
      @123TheCloop 28 дней назад

      @@robf they have been caught changing there own ToS after the fact because they got corrected on twitter with proof (webarchive dont lie) they rug pulled and F'd over like 60 countries because they ILLEGALLY sold a product they knew they couldnt support with PSN being a non option in those countries oh and Sony breaching GDPR rules by forcing us to link a PSN account with steam to access an online service that was already granted so by there own admission of waivering the requirement for 3 months they open themselves up to the EU on a GDPR fine which isnt cheap and EU take that VERY seriously.
      Sony can shove it on this move if they think im linking my PSN to steam they can F off

    • @robf
      @robf 28 дней назад

      @@kogden8110 You are misinformed. Irrespective of your location you can create a PSN account. There is nothing stopping anyone from playing the game they paid for. The issue was for some regions you'd have to select a country that didn't match your location and could technically be in violation of TnCs. Sure harvesting email address on a forty buck game is the same as trying to charge $250 for exclusive PvE content. 👍

  • @samvimes9510
    @samvimes9510 29 дней назад +256

    PSN is unavailable in 118 countries, including the Baltic states...who just so happen to be members of the EU. The only alternative is to use a VPN to create fake credentials, which is a direct violation of Sony's terms of service. America has horrible digital consumer rights, but the EU takes it VERY seriously. This could legitimately be grounds for legal action.
    EDIT: Steam has now delisted Helldivers in over 100 countries and is approving refunds regardless of playtime. This is directly impacting Sony's wallet now.

    • @beltfedfanatic
      @beltfedfanatic 28 дней назад +9

      the main reason i changed my review to negative.
      that sony has data breaches so often that you can practically set your watch to it is another one entirely.
      if not for those 2 reasons. this would not be so bad but here we are.

    • @bigt4135
      @bigt4135 28 дней назад +1

      Don’t live there.

    • @Legion-495
      @Legion-495 28 дней назад +2

      They now removed purchase options in such countries... uff

    • @prestoncreighton
      @prestoncreighton 28 дней назад +1

      F*** it I might refund it even though I play on ps

    • @scumbag6175
      @scumbag6175 28 дней назад

      can I refund it on PS Store? I’m not gonna be in U.S for couple months

  • @andrewphillips1152
    @andrewphillips1152 29 дней назад +345

    Hit Sony with that ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

  • @n3cr0he11
    @n3cr0he11 29 дней назад +408

    Helldivers 2 devs tell the community to review bomb the game ... One of their strategies to pressure Sony

    • @FcoEnriquePerez
      @FcoEnriquePerez 29 дней назад +44

      Not a Dev, a community manager, who's not so great at his job anyway. Could even cost him his job.

    • @SealFormulaMaster
      @SealFormulaMaster 29 дней назад +52

      @@FcoEnriquePerez I'm pretty sure the CEO is okay with that strat. As for costing him his job... I think his job will likely be safe at Arrowhead, at least until his contract is up. Then he'll likely have a harder time finding a new position.

    • @endborg90
      @endborg90 29 дней назад +16

      "To ban players"
      "This decision would help us ban players"
      2 of the community moderators that have both been employed by arrowhead since the first helldivers said this. Can people please stop cutting companies slack and just blaming higher ups all the time

    • @AnotherAyushRaj
      @AnotherAyushRaj 28 дней назад

      Yea even the CEO doesnt seem okay with this decision of account linkling

    • @Eckythump
      @Eckythump 28 дней назад +3

      He also said stop playing it. If players really want change they should heed that. looking at Steam DB, there has only been a dip of 5k players at peak since the announcement. Given the downward trend happening even prior to the account linking debaucle, that 5k drop could just be natural attrition and not due to the backlash. Players love to complain, but can't seem to put the game down. Mixed messaging.

  • @GhostoftheTenthEye
    @GhostoftheTenthEye 29 дней назад +605

    if they end up requireing me to have a psn account for destiny thatll be the nail in the coffin for me. im not gonna be apart of their next yearly data breach

    • @deathshop2172
      @deathshop2172 29 дней назад +48

      I know right?
      If it's the "data breach of the century" why the hell does it happen every other week?

    • @bacon_208
      @bacon_208 29 дней назад +36

      destiny 2 unlike helldivers 2 is on xbox, there's probably something in place to prevent that from happening

    • @Daemonic6
      @Daemonic6 29 дней назад +3

      You know if they will take over cheaters, ximmers on a daily basis, i'll be fine)

    • @SonAmyFan1012
      @SonAmyFan1012 29 дней назад

      @@bacon_208 My guy, Sea of thieves on PS recquires a microsoft account.

    • @echoesofmalachor3700
      @echoesofmalachor3700 29 дней назад

      Not just credential data breaches anymore either. Sony is pushing one of the most insanely intrusive anti cheats in all of gaming. So the future data breaches could compromise a metric ton of user data for each individual account. Sony is downright dangerous for its customers and their data.

  • @prettysoIdier
    @prettysoIdier 29 дней назад +154

    I miss offline mode games.

    • @tablettablete186
      @tablettablete186 29 дней назад +1

      FACTS

    • @KodexKat
      @KodexKat 29 дней назад +12

      They still exist. You just don’t play them by choice

    • @flymasterkyle1277
      @flymasterkyle1277 29 дней назад +6

      @@KodexKatyou should be able to play this without PSPlus by just playing offline

    • @muovikallo
      @muovikallo 29 дней назад +3

      then play them bro

    • @KodexKat
      @KodexKat 29 дней назад

      @@flymasterkyle1277 it’s not a free game. Only free games don’t require ps plus for online.

  • @GloverGaming3
    @GloverGaming3 29 дней назад +63

    And then Sony will come and blame Arrowhead that Helldivers population numbers tanked, and take 0% of the blame for their actions causing it

    • @gentlemanbronco3246
      @gentlemanbronco3246 28 дней назад +3

      I can definitely see this happening. Bethesda did it to Obsidian with Fallout New Vegas.

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 28 дней назад +2

      lmfao watching y'all be this upset is hilarious to me. the game is mid. the devs are shitheads. this was inevitable.

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 28 дней назад +1

      @sonnyankau9239 so, why did you click on the video if you hate the game so much? I haven't even played the game. I'm just talking about how Capitalism works. The people at the top come up with bad ideas, and it's the people at the bottom who take the fall for them

    • @sonnyankau9239
      @sonnyankau9239 28 дней назад +1

      @@GloverGaming3 so i could revel in the suffering of people who love it

    • @GloverGaming3
      @GloverGaming3 28 дней назад

      @@sonnyankau9239 Sorry, you're not going to get a lot of revelry from me. I do like the game, and I've thought about trying it, but as a dad to young kids, I don't get a lot of gaming time, and I have enough to do just playing Destiny

  • @doc6162
    @doc6162 29 дней назад +197

    sony being sony, forcing devs to take the brunt of their greedy decisions

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 29 дней назад +7

      Real this is why spider mam 2 sucked ass

    • @MyNameisVyke
      @MyNameisVyke 29 дней назад +11

      ​@@thiagoarxalmeida606Spiderman 2 was good wtf are you talking about 😭

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 29 дней назад +2

      @@MyNameisVyke bugs every where rushed game development no option to switch time of day 💀

    • @cl4-tpgaming
      @cl4-tpgaming 29 дней назад

      @@thiagoarxalmeida606your crazy, it ran great at launch and if your end all be all is the ability to change the time of day… I don’t know how to converse with someone so braindead

    • @okipullup..
      @okipullup.. 29 дней назад +1

      Nobody is forcing anything 💀 the average consumer just doesn’t know that this was a top down choice

  • @TsuriaDragon
    @TsuriaDragon 29 дней назад +129

    Cross say he’s part of Democracy but gave up the fight months ago 😭😭😭😭

    • @coinisinorbit
      @coinisinorbit 29 дней назад +11

      He's on a mandatory vacation, super earth mandate

    • @punchykarma6685
      @punchykarma6685 28 дней назад +13

      He'll be back. He's currently fighting a different intergalactic war of light vs dark.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 28 дней назад +1

      No content

    • @TellThemTheManInBlackSentU
      @TellThemTheManInBlackSentU 28 дней назад

      ^ what they said

    • @KineticKitty31
      @KineticKitty31 28 дней назад +5

      @@chillhour6155 Evidently incorrect - there's been new enemies, new missions, new warbonds and new lore pretty much every other week.
      Objectively more content than Destiny, subjectively better/more exciting content than Destiny

  • @SealFormulaMaster
    @SealFormulaMaster 29 дней назад +53

    Hell has come for the Divers. We now fight a war on three fronts. Automatons, Terminids, and Sony. To my fellow Divers to the East, fighting those dirt crawlers relentlessly, please head South. To my fellow Divers to the West, fighting those loveless bots in the name of Malevelon Creek, please head South. We must now dive not just for Democracy, but for Survival. Pick up your TD-15 Reviewer, head over to the game page, and leave a negative review, or change your review to negative. This new foe is powerful, but with the combined power of Brasch Tactics and Pilestedt Benevolence, we have a chance. We may fall, Democracy taken away, but we may stand victorious. It all depends on how this newest Major Order goes.

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 29 дней назад +3

      PC brainrot

    • @pawlus2786
      @pawlus2786 28 дней назад +3

      ​@@bognareff7991 womp womp

    • @trinityprentice8221
      @trinityprentice8221 28 дней назад +6

      Its not pc brain its called standing up for yourself and telling an awful Corporation to go to hell

    • @trinityprentice8221
      @trinityprentice8221 28 дней назад

      Your just a pushover that won't survive in the real world

    • @SealFormulaMaster
      @SealFormulaMaster 28 дней назад

      @@bognareff7991 Keep brown nosing soyboy. Because unlike you, I'm standing for something.
      Also, aren't you a little young to be playing Helldivers? Who the hell says "brainrot" other than 13 year olds? Pretty sure you need to be at least 17. So, go back to watching sky kiddie toilet or whatever it's called.

  • @brainlesscactus3184
    @brainlesscactus3184 28 дней назад +19

    People saying its not a big issue because they are from a country that isn't concerned by the change :
    1. You are still required to put your personal information in a service that is known to be unreliable and frequently hacked, which has had massive banking data leaks in the past
    2. The concept of Helldivers 2 is literally hurt by the game not being widely accessible. Yes you will still be able to play it if you live in the US or in most european countries, but every single defense campaign and conquest of new automaton and terminid systems is gonna be harder because we will miss DOZENS OF THOUSANDS of players that cannot play the game

    • @FatherRacc
      @FatherRacc 28 дней назад

      Yeah, honestly the saddest part about all of this is all the divers we’re gonna lose because of this bullshit.

  • @rabbadoodles4522
    @rabbadoodles4522 29 дней назад +63

    Sony trying not to ruin gaming: level impossible

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 29 дней назад +2

      PC brainrot

    • @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories
      @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories 28 дней назад +2

      And we’ve only reached Tier 1 level of impossible! They still have three other tiers to go through.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 28 дней назад +3

      ​@@bognareff7991doesn't Pay attention to Spiderman 2, calls the kettle black

    • @Lorentz_Driver
      @Lorentz_Driver 28 дней назад +1

      lmao they are one of the lesser scandalous ones

  • @inoob26
    @inoob26 29 дней назад +66

    and people have the balls to tell me "always online" wont have any issues down the line

  • @deathshop2172
    @deathshop2172 29 дней назад +76

    The more worrying thing is that this could be a prelude to them trying to enforce PS+ on PC gamers.

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 29 дней назад +19

      Exactly! It's Sony. They totally would!

    • @cl4-tpgaming
      @cl4-tpgaming 29 дней назад +5

      @@kurtisdeakinya, because Microsoft isn’t greedy either😂 you do realize ALL these companies are the same right, not a single one of them cares more about you than the other. I guess at least Sony still makes good games😂

    • @Deltadog55
      @Deltadog55 29 дней назад +11

      Biggest mistake was putting basic multi-player behind a Paywall. That is singlehandedly one of the stupidest decisions I have ever seen both Sony and Microsoft make. Glad Steam hasn't followed suit.

    • @TheIndulgers
      @TheIndulgers 29 дней назад +35

      @@cl4-tpgaming He didn’t mention Microsoft. Obviously MS is bad. They tried the same thing over a decade ago.
      But trying to defend Sony by shifting blame to MS, your fanboyism is showing.

    • @KillaManReaper2
      @KillaManReaper2 28 дней назад +7

      ​@cl4-tpgaming This isn't even about Microsoft or any other video game companies. This is about Sony. Take your Adderall and stay on track buddy.

  • @preacher8213
    @preacher8213 29 дней назад +29

    Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Disrespect the playerbase, they will disrespect you.

  • @meVladowski
    @meVladowski 29 дней назад +9

    Literally last year on May 1st War Thunder was review bombed the hell out of. This action forced War Thunder devs to actually make good changes to the game.

    • @prafullathakur8973
      @prafullathakur8973 28 дней назад +2

      Upvote the shit outta this. If it worked for gajin to fix the state of warthunder then we gotta do the same here.

  • @Woeden
    @Woeden 29 дней назад +10

    It was all so perfect, then Sony kicked Arrowhead in the balls

  • @arshdeepsandhu
    @arshdeepsandhu 28 дней назад +6

    Sony removed the game on steam from countries that can't make a PSN account. Well now we know they won't be backtracking this.

  • @thiagoarxalmeida606
    @thiagoarxalmeida606 29 дней назад +28

    It’s always the damn higher ups

    • @gargathulothhastur4981
      @gargathulothhastur4981 28 дней назад

      Not always. Bungo is proof.

    • @thiagoarxalmeida606
      @thiagoarxalmeida606 28 дней назад

      @@gargathulothhastur4981 bingo is proof that their higher ups sucks be fr did u think the devs wanted to fire them selves

    • @that1ragingbat_603
      @that1ragingbat_603 27 дней назад

      @@gargathulothhastur4981 You mean the higher ups in Bungie? The ones who made all the decisions that have caused issues for the company?

  • @aganaom1712
    @aganaom1712 29 дней назад +41

    The tldr is that a corporation (most likely sony) is forcing players to link a psn account to their helldivers profile. This change also occured when sony made changes to their EULA regarding their games on steam. This means that players in regions that cant make a psn account at all due to restrictions there will effectively be banned from playing the game they already paid money for without ever being able to do the things they need to be allowed to keep playing the game
    This is considered fraud in multiple countries and additionally can also be considered a customer rights, tos and breach of contract violation by sony at the international level.
    Meaning there is currently grounds for Sony to be sued by over 200,000 individuals at a minimum across 30+ countries for a rough estimate of hundreds of billions of dollars and lawyers from across the world have already begun preparing to file suits

    • @allison4350
      @allison4350 28 дней назад +1

      Thanks for explaining, I was having trouble understanding why it’s such a big deal, I know lots of games ask you to make an account on login

    • @mattf8779
      @mattf8779 28 дней назад +6

      The change didn't occur when Sony made the EULA change because there was no change. From the moment preorders where announced it was made clear that you would need a PSN account to play the game. If you bought it on Steam day 1 you needed to make one. The issue was that the launch of Helldivers was awful and one of the problems was trying to link your PSN account crashed the game. So they disabled the requirement while stating that it was a temporary disable. Players just either ignored it or missed it but that isn't on Sony or Arrowhead that is on gamers not actually paying attention.
      The only legit thing to call Sony/Arrowhead out on is selling the game to areas that wouldn't be able to play it, that is scummy. But there was no changing of the requirements.

    • @robf
      @robf 28 дней назад

      @@mattf8779 I assume in territories without legal access to a PSN account it will just allow you skip registration. In fairness they ought to have foreseen trying to implement it at a later date would upset some section of the player base. They should have offered some crazy weapon as a sign up incentive, ppl still would have been mad because it's the internet but less mad I guess. If there are any benefits to requiring registration for banning players they should have set up an 'international' sign up for everyone not in an existing territory prior to launch, poor implementation and communication on this front.

  • @torvasdh
    @torvasdh 29 дней назад +49

    HD2 devs are great, but their CM are literally reddit mods. (like, actually. Used to be reddit mods in HD1)
    The people making the game genuinely care, but the people acting as the face are just crazy.

    • @ShaoShaoMienshao
      @ShaoShaoMienshao 28 дней назад +1

      I mean... Spitz is out of line, but he's right.

    • @ASpaceOstrich
      @ASpaceOstrich 28 дней назад

      @@ShaoShaoMienshao Mm. Spitz has done nothing wrong. The helldivers community are fucking awful people. The man had to destroy the community discord server he'd made into one of the best servers on the planet because Gamers tm were spamming gore and CP in it. If the helldivers community weren't such terrible people they wouldn't keep getting treated like it.

    • @Resonosity
      @Resonosity 28 дней назад +3

      Cozmo used to be a reddit mod for Destiny. I don't really think it's fair to make blatant assumptions about people based on a type of class they fall under. V prejudicial

  • @chewbaccagamer9201
    @chewbaccagamer9201 27 дней назад +2

    From PlayStation official X account
    Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.
    We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans.

    • @jeremywildrick-cole8373
      @jeremywildrick-cole8373 27 дней назад

      “We’re still learning what’s best for PC” translated = we stepped in shit trying while trying how squeeze the most corporate benefit from you playing this game.

  • @BewareTheMonster218
    @BewareTheMonster218 28 дней назад +2

    I remember coming home, popping in a disc and being able to chill and play games with zero downloading/copying every other day.

  • @lumina6123
    @lumina6123 29 дней назад +17

    I may have gotten bored and tired of Helldivers, but Arrowhead stays taking massive Ws. Sony on the other hand.. Classic Sony, ruining a great game and tarnishing a game studio’s reputation. Good to see Arrowhead fighting back.

  • @thelittlecube1256
    @thelittlecube1256 28 дней назад +27

    If you live in a place where PSN is not supported I cannot stress this enough as Aztecross didn't mention it.
    DO NOT CHANGE THE LOCATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT!
    That is a clear violation of Sony's EULA which terminates your account. This also will lock down the steam account that you linked to Sony.

    • @robf
      @robf 28 дней назад +1

      And it's not necessary.

  • @SB35702
    @SB35702 28 дней назад +2

    They dont realize it but theyve been training a group of internet entities to all focus on a singular goal. Everyone forgot the billion bugs we killed in 24 hours, thats a million reviews in less time.

  • @Pants207
    @Pants207 27 дней назад +2

    Sony just put out a tweet that they changed their mind on the account linking.

  • @mr_ekshun
    @mr_ekshun 29 дней назад +4

    I hate that it's always the people who made a fantastic game who are going to get hurt the most, not the brickheads making the decisions (and taking the $$$)

  • @littleman7386
    @littleman7386 29 дней назад +3

    Most I’ve been able to do is make my review negative as my refund request has been denied due to the whole more than 2 weeks and 2 hours policy. Feels bad man

    • @Airtroops83
      @Airtroops83 28 дней назад +1

      keep sending them until you get it, every request is one more match on the fire. Valve will get further involved soon, bet on it.

  • @AtomicPuma9
    @AtomicPuma9 28 дней назад +2

    It’s crazy that the whole Escape From Tarkov fiasco is happening and then this happens. What has happened to these upper management at BSG and Sony… both are burning bridges.

  • @thebtm
    @thebtm 29 дней назад +2

    A quote from another video I watched "You don't mess with a player base that killed 2 billion bugs in 12 hours". And I feel it explains it all. I'm a Destiny 2 player much sure I've switched games to HD2 but now I'm unsure.

  • @GodofWarChuka
    @GodofWarChuka 29 дней назад +22

    Other then Destiny 2 and Outriders I think I’m done investing my time and money on the online with servers type games. I’m mainly sticking with single player type games where you’ll never lose your stuff and everything is saved on hard drive. Like the Borderlands games. It sucked watching Destiny 1 die.

    • @andy.jehoshaphat
      @andy.jehoshaphat 29 дней назад +7

      Destiny 1 didn't die. There are still people who play.

    • @GodofWarChuka
      @GodofWarChuka 28 дней назад +6

      @@andy.jehoshaphat I logged into Destiny 1 not to long ago. I couldn’t get into a PvP game. I did some strikes with matchmaking. It was extremely weird with no FOV and 30 FPS. It’s not dead, but it’s painful to play after being used to D2.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 28 дней назад +1

      Epic Games lost my 70 hour's Remnant account I mostly played solo, these launchers are a curse either way

    • @thatoneguy2136
      @thatoneguy2136 28 дней назад +1

      Destiny is the only Live Service game that I play, I’ve never been interested in playing another cuz of how time consuming they are. Always been a single player, player since ps1 and will stay like that for ever. Single player (offline) games’ where it’s at

  • @zakrunooingorah4221
    @zakrunooingorah4221 29 дней назад +10

    Average Sony L

  • @AnotherAyushRaj
    @AnotherAyushRaj 28 дней назад

    Mr. Editor please tell me what was the music in the outro. Sounds very fimiliar

  • @Chippy569
    @Chippy569 28 дней назад +2

    Arrowhead: hey let's make a game where the whole community has to work together to achieve major orders
    Gaming media: how did all these HD2 players come together to bomb the reviews?!

  • @ivan_domangaming9359
    @ivan_domangaming9359 29 дней назад +14

    Looks like there's new information about this controversy, just the countries were PSN is available will need their account to play, the ones that don't have access won't need it
    Edit: the game is no longer available to purchase in countries that don't have psn

    • @terrynichols4509
      @terrynichols4509 28 дней назад +3

      If this is true then the only complaint I had about this account link is gone

  • @sirrickardjameses
    @sirrickardjameses 29 дней назад +12

    The devs told the to review bomb it so they had more ammo when they talked to sony

  • @JamesCartermusic
    @JamesCartermusic 28 дней назад

    I'm part of the my countries military too Cross. I just don't show up to any drill trainings and my arm or leg is conveniently fractured around any deployment period.

  • @robf
    @robf 27 дней назад +2

    It's ok now, crisis averted. Everyone's data on the internet is safe now.

  • @powermix24
    @powermix24 29 дней назад +36

    I have a PS account for 17 Years, I have a PS5 and I WILL NOT LINK my Helldivers 2 account to my PS5 or any Playstation exclusive PC Game.

    • @mommycakes5418
      @mommycakes5418 29 дней назад +11

      Womp womp

    • @KermitOfWar
      @KermitOfWar 29 дней назад +7

      🎻

    • @robf
      @robf 29 дней назад +1

      Sure you're not going too.

    • @powermix24
      @powermix24 29 дней назад

      @@robfI'm not, Sony just trying to use a great game to pull some numbers for share holders. Good luck with that.

    • @nope9096
      @nope9096 29 дней назад +3

      Cool?

  • @pimpshiza
    @pimpshiza 28 дней назад +7

    Sony is well known for old-world samurai business tactics and idiotic fuckery like this.
    I highly doubt they'll walk this back.

  • @chrismcdougall8550
    @chrismcdougall8550 28 дней назад +2

    As of now countries where psn isn’t available are straight up blocked from even playing/buying the game. Even people who already own the game can’t launch it.

    • @robf
      @robf 28 дней назад +1

      Nonsense.

  • @tw1n5nak39
    @tw1n5nak39 29 дней назад

    I like that twist of events you described.
    Definitely would be fine with a Bungie like pivot that lets arrowhead put helldivers on a Xbox

  • @lordshadowz58
    @lordshadowz58 29 дней назад +11

    all video games that are big have this. minecraft, sea of thieves, fortnite, apex legends, overwatch…
    AND DESTINY 2

  • @linopontes
    @linopontes 29 дней назад +7

    That Spitz CM changed his tune didn't he?! 1st had a go at the community which only made the situation worse. The backlash changed his tune, to blame SONY.

    • @urazz7739
      @urazz7739 29 дней назад +3

      Which is the truth I imagine because the game was running fine without this until now.

  • @iaimfortheeyes
    @iaimfortheeyes 29 дней назад

    I’m just curious what the conversation with spits looks like right now lol.

  • @LegendaryGamer12345
    @LegendaryGamer12345 28 дней назад

    This is very similar to what happened with Google classrooms due to the Genshin 1st anniversary problem but this is actually on the initial game

  • @prettysoIdier
    @prettysoIdier 29 дней назад +8

    It’s not the developers. It’s the publisher.

    • @FcoEnriquePerez
      @FcoEnriquePerez 29 дней назад +1

      They definitely are the one pushing it, but Arrowhead is the one bending and letting this shit f their game.

    • @andredayton1424
      @andredayton1424 29 дней назад

      The devs actually deleted a bunch of discord messages that prove that they were approving the change

    • @EMO1tachi
      @EMO1tachi 29 дней назад

      ​@@andredayton1424says you?

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 29 дней назад

      @@FcoEnriquePerez PC brainrot

    • @bognareff7991
      @bognareff7991 29 дней назад

      @@andredayton1424 PC brainrot

  • @GalenLeRaaz
    @GalenLeRaaz 29 дней назад +5

    Apparently, Steam begun to roll out refunds, even with many hours on the account.

    • @N7ZaeedMassani
      @N7ZaeedMassani 29 дней назад +3

      Denied my request twice, this seems false, only have 26hrs in the game too since launch

    • @MrInsiipid
      @MrInsiipid 29 дней назад

      Highly doubt this. It's been advertised that this was a requirement from the very start, both in-game and on the store page. Steam won't be refunding for that reason.

    • @123TheCloop
      @123TheCloop 28 дней назад +2

      @@N7ZaeedMassani you need to get a human support to look at it. automated ones generally dont do jack

    • @Serace.
      @Serace. 28 дней назад

      @@N7ZaeedMassaniI think you have to contact support for it, if you use the normal feature it’s automatically denied if you have more than 2 hours iirc

  • @Corndog-
    @Corndog- 28 дней назад

    Spitz was talking to the D2 communtiy, not the Helldivers community when he said that steam reviews make a difference.

  • @onebexey
    @onebexey 28 дней назад +2

    Does it mean that they might enforce this on Bungie as well?

    • @camkingrea7773
      @camkingrea7773 27 дней назад

      They might honestly, but after this fiasco, hopefully Sony learns their lesson.

  • @baneintherain
    @baneintherain 29 дней назад +3

    Reviews might've tanked, but the game is still fantastically fun to play. This will all blow over soon enough.

  • @mepevy
    @mepevy 29 дней назад +3

    Maybe it’s due to Microsoft wanting to try and get it onto Xbox and this will absolutely rule that out if you need a psn account. 🤷‍♂️

    • @GustavoOliveira-yi7pj
      @GustavoOliveira-yi7pj 27 дней назад +1

      Even if they do that, they wont take away the game from xbox platforms, only makr it worse for everyone playing + the more than 90 countries that dont have psn

  • @randomonlinename2941
    @randomonlinename2941 28 дней назад

    The biggest issue is the change of the terms of sale after the sale took place.
    For no reason

  • @pvtcmyers87
    @pvtcmyers87 29 дней назад

    Thanks for the information I've added my 2 cents for managed democracy. :)

  • @DarkPyroZero
    @DarkPyroZero 29 дней назад +4

    People really being crybabies over making a psn when people gotta make a Microsoft account to play Sea of Thieves on PS5 which no one bats an eye to

    • @TitusAndromadon
      @TitusAndromadon 29 дней назад +1

      Sea of thieves isn't comparable at all in numbers to helldivers 2. It was also clearly communicated up front that you needed to do that. I have been gaming long enough to remember the psn network being down for months. I have had e credit cards have to be replaced due to data breaches of psn. That has never happened with my ms account nor ea.

    • @EclipseHighroller
      @EclipseHighroller 28 дней назад

      @@TitusAndromadonexcept the psn requirement was there before launch. Not Sony, steam or arrowheads fault people can’t read. Dont buy a game if you can’t meet the requirements.

    • @danawr45
      @danawr45 28 дней назад

      Did Microsoft force you to link your PSN account to the Microsoft account?
      But not this shit sony literally force you to link your PSN account to your steam account just to play the game
      Log in just to play the game is okay but forcing people to link account is a whole different matter

  • @nazzradan7154
    @nazzradan7154 29 дней назад +3

    You need to play more helldivers, Cross!

  • @Nvidia8706
    @Nvidia8706 27 дней назад

    Didn’t sony put a pause at the beginning to allow steam players to join because the linking was causing server delays, so they allowed pc players to bypass it. That doesn’t mean that it was gonna stay like that forever the psn linking was gonna happen one way or another

  • @mrfrenchfry6519
    @mrfrenchfry6519 27 дней назад +2

    Make a video on the other side of this now it’s being walked back. Doesn’t have to be a gush on Sony but even a hey sometimes they listen

  • @bigchomp6892
    @bigchomp6892 29 дней назад +3

    And this is why Destiny will never die

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 29 дней назад +1

      Lmao yeah, right. Watch the point fly right over your head.

  • @FcoEnriquePerez
    @FcoEnriquePerez 29 дней назад +7

    Uninstall, change review and ask for refund! IM DOING MY PART.
    If we get it denied, I'm waiting to sing up that class action.
    And to whoever mfkr who thinks we should bend it, just because other's do it too, nah, f them too.

    • @MasterRyuuji
      @MasterRyuuji 29 дней назад

      It’s too late for the refund tho

  • @jonas_gustafsson
    @jonas_gustafsson 27 дней назад +1

    And now they have moved back on the PSN requirement. 🎉

  • @nilsmuller2314
    @nilsmuller2314 28 дней назад +1

    Maybe if Sony wouldn’t gatekeep most of there games that hadn’t been an issue because then the account had a use other than to pump up there statistics

  • @i_am_dementia9926
    @i_am_dementia9926 29 дней назад +3

    Moral of the story, PS games should remain exclusive lol we wouldn't have any issues of it was. MS forced us to make a MS account for minecraft (I lost my account so WOMP WOMP online), but no one batted an eye to it.

  • @theneoreaper6753
    @theneoreaper6753 29 дней назад +4

    Microsoft has been doing this exact samething for years now & yet nobody says anything. It's just PC karens being mad.

  • @stormwolve1685
    @stormwolve1685 28 дней назад

    that shit is on electronic arts like level the only thing that could help more would be if devs put a message in the game so even the players who still buy games blindly and don't have social media accounts know what's going on

  • @MR-zt1hh
    @MR-zt1hh 27 дней назад +1

    They actually walked it back, and arent moving forward with it

  • @pyramidhead0420
    @pyramidhead0420 29 дней назад +3

    Lol. imgine using any site or app on the web and thinking Sony is somehow the one that breaks you data security.
    If your online and they want your info, they're getting it Sony account or not. People are so dumb for throwing temper tantrums

  • @danteinpuro319
    @danteinpuro319 29 дней назад +8

    People are just taking this shit way out of proportion

    • @cathef117
      @cathef117 29 дней назад

      Fr

    • @yourlocalhuman3526
      @yourlocalhuman3526 29 дней назад

      bro you need to do more research and less ignorance maxxing
      List of countries where people cant make PSN accounts:
      Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Antigua Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Democratic Republic of the Congo (Congo-Kinshasa), Republic of the Congo (Congo-Brazzaville),Djibouti Dominica, Dominican Republic East Timor (Timor-Leste), Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Estonia, Eswatini(Swaziland), Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Latvia, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Mauritius, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar (Burma), Namibia, Nauru, Nepal, Nigeria, North Macedonia (formerly Macedonia), Palau, Papua New Guinea, Rwanda, Saint Kitts, Nevis Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent, Grenadines Samoa, San Marino, Sao, Tome, Principe Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and Suriname

    • @kurtisdeakin
      @kurtisdeakin 29 дней назад +1

      Oh! You're one of THOSE people.

  • @Smurf5738
    @Smurf5738 27 дней назад

    Isn't changing the words in a user agreement after it was already signed a form of fraud? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @Shigiy87
    @Shigiy87 29 дней назад

    I like your gaming news videos!

  • @D4rk_R34lm
    @D4rk_R34lm 27 дней назад

    The problem is this. I bought the game and have been able to play since. NOW Im being told I wont be allowed to play the game I bought and have been playing fine since, unless I make a 3rd party account

  • @7472wayne
    @7472wayne 29 дней назад

    Based on that will they be required to play PS+?

  • @KLGChaos
    @KLGChaos 28 дней назад

    The issue isn't having to sign up. We do that a lot for other games up front. The issue is that it we paid for something, was told it was optional, and then a few months later get told we have to sign up or we lose access to the game. Worse for those in countries who don't have even have access to the game anymore. It feels like their money was stolen in a bait and switch.
    People are tired of not owning the games they pay for and, more importantly, hate feeling like they've been deceived.

  • @Blaquegold
    @Blaquegold 28 дней назад

    To be fair so many other companies require what Sony is asking. This is nothing new. It sucks though but again this not new. The lack of transparency is inexcusable 100% for not letting people know from the beginning.

  • @ljlysong001
    @ljlysong001 28 дней назад

    Sony.. this could’ve been done so easily you could’ve have your cake and eat it too…
    Keep the game optional for PSN, but add bonus cosmetics and exp booster if/when you add your PSN account by a certain date. You could get your earning numbers and also make the playerbase happy.

  • @Koookiez
    @Koookiez 28 дней назад

    Cross will you try the BO3 Zombie mode Destiny map?

  • @A-Rod1337
    @A-Rod1337 27 дней назад +1

    PSN has officially rolled back their requirement and helldiver's put out a major order to change your reviews to positive lol

  • @MrMRMONKEY232
    @MrMRMONKEY232 29 дней назад

    On top of how many countries can't even make an account Sony is notorious for its data breaches way more than ms or ubisoft or ea.
    I don't necessarily want arrowhead to go indie if it means losing funding so we end up with a democracy filled version of the ever verse from d2 to pay for things but it would be better than this I guess. Since it would still be optional

  • @catarznosa862
    @catarznosa862 28 дней назад

    When we will see you playing new Remnant 2 dlc?

  • @CptOriginal
    @CptOriginal 27 дней назад +2

    Its been fixed, sony is undoing it

  • @muhammadhaziqmohdsaiful9993
    @muhammadhaziqmohdsaiful9993 27 дней назад

    Dood, I'm not worried the "it's just an account" Problem, I'm worried that this is a starters for 1 day those multi billion company, would charge you subscription not matters what platform you play as long as it's their games 😅

  • @sh0v3lz
    @sh0v3lz 27 дней назад +1

    THEY REVERTED THE DESCISION , WE WON

  • @me_rinta
    @me_rinta 28 дней назад

    This article clearly avoids the crux of this problem: that some people are unable to create their psn account due to regional restrictions from psn. Creating an account from some countries is straight up impossible without a vpn.
    I feel this issue very hard as these kinds of restrictions from Sony disallowed me to purchase any more dlcs for Destiny 2 and to keep playing the game i loved.
    It just sucks man

  • @penado8443
    @penado8443 28 дней назад

    Money this is why this is happening. Its always about sweet precious lewt when it comes to big companies/corporations. Its unfortunate and i hope AH can recover from this drama.

  • @captduncan5936
    @captduncan5936 28 дней назад

    I live in Jamaica but technically i created my psn account with a usa address and it works fine but i have to buy psn money with us dollar eventhough we don't use USD , it's annoying but it works

  • @andrewlutes2048
    @andrewlutes2048 27 дней назад

    Terms of Service are absolutely disgusting agreements.

  • @interceptor4049
    @interceptor4049 28 дней назад

    It’s not crazy that we can come together for one bigger goal, that’s what we did in the game for hours all the time.

  • @JangelDangel
    @JangelDangel 28 дней назад

    And in some places that the where players are allowed to make psn accounts they can only do so with a purchase of a playstation system I think it was Sweden? I've even seen some chinese player already getting banned because they used a vpn to link their account. There is crossplay witih helldivers 2 but no cross progression, for the past 3 months the game has worked fine without the need to make and link a psn account and has been able to track steam accounts/psn players. Conservatively, I'd estimate at least 20-30k of player base just got fucked out of 40-60+ USD and were told to kick rocks which is why I think the review ratings tanked so swiftly in under a day.

  • @_SimpleJack_
    @_SimpleJack_ 28 дней назад

    I hear Hungaria is lovely this time of year...

  • @joeythomas5925
    @joeythomas5925 28 дней назад

    They already denied access to the countries already 2 hours ago on steam

  • @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch
    @Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch 28 дней назад

    i suppose if steam has say 2mil hd2 players, half of them sign up, it be an easy migration of 1mil onto the ps pc launcher, hypothetically.

  • @massemj1
    @massemj1 28 дней назад

    Two things: this all takes place before their psn+ model, which is subscription based. So buy the game and pay for monthly access. Second, having to provide a driver's license for Sony, who loses PII every year, is not acceptable period.

  • @WarauTR
    @WarauTR 28 дней назад

    Players have said Sony is known to have information leaks, also a reason why people don't want to link their STEAM account.

  • @LuniNightwind
    @LuniNightwind 28 дней назад

    What i have yet to see people ask is why was the game being sold to countries that can't make a PSN account?

  • @tomdabombbraun4081
    @tomdabombbraun4081 27 дней назад +1

    Im here to say we won this battle onto the next!!! For Democrussy!!!!!!!!

  • @nokturn882
    @nokturn882 28 дней назад

    Well this was always the case, linking the steam account to the psn. In addition, look at the real reasons why Sony is requiring this. They need to be able to protect players. Even arrowhead said it themselves.

  • @jamesesposito8087
    @jamesesposito8087 26 дней назад

    This was a simple problem for me. I am a bit older now , and i have the child in me under control. Helldivers rocked, and i loved playing, but just like Destiny2. I am an adult, and if a company starts doing shady stuff...... I am out! All the issues Playstation has had with personal info, and security. I have zero desire to have anything to do with Playstation whatsoever. As an adult gaming is maybe 3rd or 4th on my list of hobbies, so walking away from a game is easy. So, I have played my last match of Helldivers. Nowhere else in adult life do we put up with this kind of crap from other companies. I have no idea why so many of us allow games to do it. I understand Arrowhead didnt do it, but this was filthy , and just like if i paid for an oil change , and my car got scratched up....... They gets no more business from me.

  • @woundedhealer8575
    @woundedhealer8575 28 дней назад

    So basically AH just said “Hellbomb armed, clear the area”