I would say the value proposition is still STRONG, after all how much is that X6 when you add all the items that come STANDARD on the GV80? I always hate when base price to base price is compared, it's very disengenious when the equipment spread between those two base models is VAST.
Please stop using LCD as a blanket term for every screen. This uses OLED for the 27" display, it's an entirely different (self-emissive vs backlit) display technology. The Cadillac Escalade also has OLED displays, though it seems the IQ and ICE refresh are going back to LCD for the massive 55" combined display. I also believe the Q6 E-Tron and new A5 will also use OLED for the 14.5" infotainment display.
Who cares - it's all cheap garbage and cost-cutting in order to do away with designing, testing, manufacturing, inventorying, and warrantying physical gauges and controls. Kool Aid drinkers think a screen is better though.
@@viacheslavkrasin3119 I’m not here to talk car vs. car but my family has had a genesis in the garage since 2016 and none of them have had an issue. 4 later, still not a single issue.
@@viacheslavkrasin3119 Lmao Genesis has the best reliabilty for a luxury brand after Lexus and maybe Acura/Infiniti. Their 4.6l V8, 5.0l V8, 3.8l V6, and 3.3TT V6 have been reliable so far. Same with their 6 and 8 speed transmissions. They never got plagued with Hyundais poor reliability. BMW still has tacky dual LCD screens with massive bezels instead of the crispy and thinner bezel single panel OLED of Genesis. They also look ugly as a sin. I test drove newer BMWs and Genesis and people only cared to turn heads and ask about the Genesis at gas stations and in grocery parking lots lol. Might as well drive a Pontiac Astek instead of a new BMW 💀. And given how horribly unreliable and expensive BMWs are to keep long term they are the last car I'd buy.
I don't care about any of the flaws! I want it! I am a FAN BOY 🎉🤸🏾♂️ This will be a winner even if no one buys it. Only certain types of ppl buy SUV "coupes" anyway😁
I think Genesis is doing it right so far. You just get so much bang for the buck than all of its rivals. The only issue I have is Genesis needs more dealerships in the US as you cannot have any service done at a Hyundai/Kia dealership unless that dealership happens to have a Genesis dealership attached to it. I have a 2022 GV70 Sport Prestige which I love so much but driving 8hrs round trip to have any service performed is a bit much. I would totally consider buying a GV80 Coupe but maybe if my city gets a dealership nearby.
@BB2001hjk Oh? Are you implying that your beloved German car brands are superior? I must say, I find it quite amusing that my BMW's transmission failed within 10,000 miles. On the other hand, I own a GV80 that has accumulated over 30,000 miles in just a year without encountering any issues, aside from routine maintenance.
I'd rather take the MPG penalty of the Genesis, that the horrific depreciation and long term maintenance/repair costs of BMW/MB. And, quite frankly, to me, the Genesis looks more elegant, design-wise.
Great insight and synergy from your collaboration, guys! I love the looks of the GV80, on a par with the Cayenne Coupe. However, I was hoping the price would be in the $70’s range.
@@JustTramayne mmmm ,mom told me never argue with a woman…so enjoy your gv 80 ! , I have a gv 80 prestiege and my Coup delivers next week. Agree to disagree
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I truly hope Genesis consider bringing the hybrid versions of their vehicles this in my view will be the best selling point to sway the German shoppers to step away from the more recognized luxury brands everyone has grown accustomed to.
This is a beautiful car. I really wanted one but they took to long to come out with it. I will wait a year or two to see what happens with it in terms of reliability. (Gonna let Genesis work the kinks out)
This is a nice looking car. I’d like to see similar screen and climate controls in the Electrified GV 70. People who can afford this will determine if it’s worth it, but it does seem awfully expensive to me.
I'm a current Lexus ES300h F Sport driver and I'm not making a move on anything until I see what the hybrid line-up from Genesis looks like, hopefully in '25. Can't wait!
HKG seem to have a strange relationship with wireless phone projection. Some of the older, low level infotainment has it but the expensive systems didn’t, then they added it for the CCNT systems like in the EV9, but this doesn’t have it. Also, I know Sofiyan (sorry if I misspelled) has their own channel, but I like when you two are in a video together. You are great together on camera.
Yeah good call. The low trim Santa Cruz has wireless phone projection and my top spec does not. It's annoying on short trips but wired is surely more reliable.
That 20 mpg highway is where Genesis falls behind Germans. Engine(plus trans), being the core of an ICE car, is so inefficient at similar power levels. BMW X5 50i has 22 mpg hwy and often beats it in real world.
Alex, I hope you paid Sofyan top dollar for his camera work. 🤩Getting back to the GV80, I have never and will never understand coupe-sedans or coupe-CUVs. 🤨
5.8s for a 409hp sporty suv is actually a bit disappointing. That’s slower than something like Explorer ST or Aviator. The standard equipment is good, but for someone paying 87k for a sporty SUV with 409hp, it should be 0.5s faster to be more appealing.
But it’s faster than whatever Lexus has to offer so there’s that. And the gv80 is far more dynamic and better to drive and better to ride in than the Lexus
*I am a bit concerned about the "stance" of the vehicle appearance wise. I'd really like the Magma Variety NOW, but of course it's not available yet. I'm ready to buy, but the thinner, more inwardly tucked wheels aren't what I want on my vehicle. I guess I might have to do slight wheel spacers to get the look I want. Yeah, .. the more aggressive look means that much to me!*
Genesis used to lead in the tech department, but sadly, they are falling back; not having wireless Android Auto is just sad (even if it may come in a future update), plus no built-in dash-cam! Now, even Lexus has wireless AA and a built-in dashcam, and that is not even mentioning the german cars. Add to that the fuel economy is not near most of the competition with less horsepower. . Still, it's a lovely car for the first generation SUV from Genesis, but when comparing it with the competition, it becomes difficult to recommend.
I love the GV80 Coupe but they really need to lower the price on this SUV. Also its not selling well because of the price. Plus the resale on the Genesis are not great at all except for GV70. They need to hurry up and bring the Magma and Black editions to the 🇺🇸.
Reading all these comments about genesis almost half price of Germans… please do simple action. Go to official site and build the car out of configurator. Checked the bmw and genesis configurators on the official sites. Finally next prices for bmw x5 xdrive40 2025 OR m-appearance with executive, air suspension, 4 zone climate 89k vs Genesis gv80 2024 no air suspension and 3zone climate 84.7k ( 2025 80k as they delete almost all trims). Please check on your own eyes.
Interesting that different markets have different features. In Canada, the passenger seat of the 409 hp version has the same functionality as the driver seat. Also the Canadian version has Terrain mode built into the drive selector mode for mud, snow, sand. Four winter tires and rims are also included and you get 5 years of twice a year tire changes as well as off season storage of your tires.
@rafeevans Price in Canada is $104,000 Cdn$. Using the current exchange that is about $79,000 in US$. Only the 409 Hp 48V model is available in Canada. We also get 5 years of maintenance included.
Taking the passenger seat massage out of the United States' GV80 coupes is just dirty pool (or egregious cost cutting) on Genesis' part, imo. Nobody deserves a good bum massage like an American carpooler riding shotgun on a long commute.
Remember the good old days when tires actually had sidewalls and could survive the railroad tracks, pot holes and speed bumps found on the road? I don't understand why manufacturers are regressing to wagon wheels.
There is a brake size consideration (heavier and higher performing modern vehicles warrant larger brake rotors and calipers, which require larger wheels for them to fit under) but for the most part yeah it’s all clever brainwashing of the target demographic. Heck even brake size probably is inflated in part to the aesthetics and filling in the larger wheels.
Yeah and I remember when a Mr. Goodbar was a nickel too. Nostalgia is a game that goes on forever. The stylists have won on this front and there is no turning back I'm afraid.
Genesis: when the cover band charges more for concert tickets than the actual band... I could write several pages about all the styling touches that I don't like about this car, but overall, a 75k Stinger Outback holds zero appeal to me, even if comes with the Bently Tribute Package with enough chrome to make a Harley owner blush. I like the Model X better than this and that thing is just weird. Alex, as always, is impeccable.
Excellent review. But this is the bottom line: Something is off kilter when what started as a value proposition has a $5K premium starting price over it's more established rivals. That is ridiculous. I knew it was a matter of time before Genesis prices started creeping up. It was just a matter of time before greed took over. This vehicle should have topped out at $65K max. Pricing and warranty should make this vehicle outsell the competition but I don't see it happening. At the current pricing this will be a tough sell.
@@naveenthemachine When I am looking at competing SUVS in the coupe market - I am. Getting 20 mpg is ridiculous. I should know since my X6 would only get 15 mpg like a tractor truck in the 70's!
@@anthonyv1719if you really care about operation cost but still want fast 0-60 time, PHEV or EV is basically the only possible solution. My Explorer ST also goes around 16 for my daily usage.
Don't people know about Genesis? It is your responsibilty. Are you not an influencer? Hey, Genesis. Do not waste your money for this guys. They have no impact for your brand.
Hi Alex, how high are the floors from the seats on this car compared to the Ioniq 5? Will long legged folks find themselves “crouching” more in this car vs the Ioniq 5?
They are pricing knowing they will discount heavily and make more money than pricing just right and needing to discount. Won't ever consider a Genesis because of their pricing strategy.
I don’t feel like they have proved themselves enough to charge that. It’s nice to have all those options but if it’s sitting in the driveway or the dealer with mess up’s it doesn’t matter really
@@naveenthemachine Genesis came in 18th place for reliability as a brand with a CR rating of 44, barely beating Audi with 43. Lexus was #1 with a 79. Toyota was #2 at 76.
Parts for a Genesis are scarce as hen's teeth. Dealers do not even stock GV70 rear window glass. Wait for it to be manufactured in Korea and sent overseas. No after market.
Why making a video with this beautiful looking car inside and outside but the upholstery in this very boring gray/black color. Genesis offer very beautiful upholstery colors but this one is very boring. It down grade the car..!!
😂😂😂 what are you viewing this video on? Kin 1 or Kin 2 ? The exterior color is BERING BLUE …it’s gorgeous …..the interior is ultramarine blue with orange stitching. Again gorgeous!.
That's one (or four) of the reasons why a lot of these will end up being leased. Pop, pop, pop & POP! It's a wear item that eventually need service/replacement.
Alex, I'd like to see you poll your viewers and ask if they have any interest in having fake engine noise in their vehicle. Hope it is a fad that will soon be ending.
Kia reliability has been good so far beating Honda Besides you’re not going to buy a car because it depreciates little or because it breaks all the time. Kia’s aren’t land rovers you know Besides if what you said is true why is the telluride outselling the pilot? Exactly. Because your comment is objectively wrong
@@naveenthemachine Kia beating Honda? LOL, in your dreams. Kia didn't do badly on the CR brand ratings, but it's in 10th place with a score of 56. Honda is #5 at 70. Genesis as a brand is #18 with a cumulative score of 44.
He’s right. You’re wrong. Genesis is what Lexus should be. But Lexus is the next Infiniti. Lexus doesn’t really exist anymore. The competition has moved on and forgotten its existence for good reason Eventually you’ll lose your job as a Lexus marketing sheep and be forced to go elsewhere😂. So you shouldn’t be here saying they’re junk when almost nobody including Alex agrees with you
@@naveenthemachine Total Lexus sales were over 320k for 2023, up 24% from 2022. Genesis was up a similar 23%, from 56k to 69k (nice) last year, about the same as Infiniti's 65k. Even moribund Lincoln managed 81k. Lexus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
@@SirOsisofLiver Lexus outsells both of them? Sure. But McDonalds also sells more burgers than five guys. But does that make McDonald’s objectively superior to five guys? No it doesn’t Same logic here: Lexus may outsells those brands but that doesn’t mean Lexus is more fun to drive or more luxurious or more comfortable or faster or more powerful or more advanced or more sophisticated than those brands.
@@naveenthemachine Lexus sells 4.6 times as many cars as Genesis, and at a higher average transaction price, has better depreciation curves, and still has an extremely good reliability rating from CR. To be accurate, it would be like Five Guys outselling McDonalds in your analogy.
28:40. I tried to tell you Alex the new Lexus models would be very disappointing. But you didn’t even give me credit for being right 😂. All you did was laugh. I called it that this would happen and indeed it did. Now where’s your acknowledgement that your favorite Toyota was right😂 The rest of you failed miserably to prove your favorite Toyota hater wrong. But you can’t fathom your ego being at risk so you preserve it by attacking me But your remarks are proof that the time to Lexus’ demise is accelerating. They’re gonna be gone very soon
@@KuyaArbee what do they need to prove? They’ve proven they can build a proper Lexus. They can build a world class luxury car. This isn’t 1990. This is 2024. Things change. It’s called progress. No one buys a luxury car for reliability or efficiency. If you want the luxury of reliability and mpg just get a Prius So if anything your comment got disproven very quickly. Nice try pal. Got anymore failed arguments 😂
@@naveenthemachine what world class car? Lmao 🤣 bruh 😎 nobody going to buy a Genesis if it’s the price of a bmw and Mercedes. No one truly cross shops a genesis… also their dealer network sucks
@@KuyaArbee genesis is the Asian bmw. Sure bmw Mercedes are “better” still but remember that getting the same amount of features in the bmw or Mercedes to match the genesis will cost you significantly more Also genesis can have the worst dealer experience in history and still produce better quality luxury cars Lexus has the best quality luxury vehicle owner experience but Genesis has the best quality luxury vehicles period. And the car is more important than the brand
Lexus is officially overrated! Instead of luxury which it should be, the interior Leans more towards premium. It's officially the "monkey see monkey do brand" because they so Reliable 🙄. Yet Toyota is constantly proving that they have issues just like every other manufacturer. Hence the big engine recall going on for their new V6 powertrain.
@@chudson4500 agreed, but for the price you can get an EV with similar performance is what I meant, but yes, there are far better alternatives to this. The price is outlandish. But yes, agree with you.
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They did a decent job honouring the concept. Hope they are serious about the magma performance line though
I would say the value proposition is still STRONG, after all how much is that X6 when you add all the items that come STANDARD on the GV80? I always hate when base price to base price is compared, it's very disengenious when the equipment spread between those two base models is VAST.
Please stop using LCD as a blanket term for every screen. This uses OLED for the 27" display, it's an entirely different (self-emissive vs backlit) display technology. The Cadillac Escalade also has OLED displays, though it seems the IQ and ICE refresh are going back to LCD for the massive 55" combined display. I also believe the Q6 E-Tron and new A5 will also use OLED for the 14.5" infotainment display.
You seem to know what you're talking about and if that is so sir, bravo and keep it up.
Yeah, some of the screens are better than others.
Okay, nerd.
Who cares - it's all cheap garbage and cost-cutting in order to do away with designing, testing, manufacturing, inventorying, and warrantying physical gauges and controls. Kool Aid drinkers think a screen is better though.
The $75,000 BWM has WAY LESS features, equally spec'd the BMW is way more money
Exactly. GV80 comes standard with 360 cameras, heated/cooler/massaging seats, HDA 2, etc.
@@ayushmalpeddi2793this car is even not close to BMW's performance, quality and reliability. It will end in the same way as Hyundai Stingray finished.
@@viacheslavkrasin3119 I’m not here to talk car vs. car but my family has had a genesis in the garage since 2016 and none of them have had an issue. 4 later, still not a single issue.
@@viacheslavkrasin3119 Lmao Genesis has the best reliabilty for a luxury brand after Lexus and maybe Acura/Infiniti. Their 4.6l V8, 5.0l V8, 3.8l V6, and 3.3TT V6 have been reliable so far. Same with their 6 and 8 speed transmissions. They never got plagued with Hyundais poor reliability.
BMW still has tacky dual LCD screens with massive bezels instead of the crispy and thinner bezel single panel OLED of Genesis. They also look ugly as a sin. I test drove newer BMWs and Genesis and people only cared to turn heads and ask about the Genesis at gas stations and in grocery parking lots lol. Might as well drive a Pontiac Astek instead of a new BMW 💀. And given how horribly unreliable and expensive BMWs are to keep long term they are the last car I'd buy.
@@scoobtay I do understand and thus is true.
I don't care about any of the flaws! I want it!
I am a FAN BOY 🎉🤸🏾♂️
This will be a winner even if no one buys it. Only certain types of ppl buy SUV "coupes" anyway😁
Hyundai Kia are killing it
I think Genesis is doing it right so far. You just get so much bang for the buck than all of its rivals. The only issue I have is Genesis needs more dealerships in the US as you cannot have any service done at a Hyundai/Kia dealership unless that dealership happens to have a Genesis dealership attached to it. I have a 2022 GV70 Sport Prestige which I love so much but driving 8hrs round trip to have any service performed is a bit much. I would totally consider buying a GV80 Coupe but maybe if my city gets a dealership nearby.
bang for buck then recall and bad resale
@BB2001hjk Oh? Are you implying that your beloved German car brands are superior? I must say, I find it quite amusing that my BMW's transmission failed within 10,000 miles. On the other hand, I own a GV80 that has accumulated over 30,000 miles in just a year without encountering any issues, aside from routine maintenance.
@@moktafizaman9077 no lincoln superior to genesis.. bmw can’t be compared. genesis recalls and catch fire soon be careful thank you
@BB2001hjk And need I expound on the reliability of BMW? Oh, right, they were never known for their reliability. Genesis IS.
@@moktafizaman9077 where ? Any facts ?
Great review. Sounds like it's extremely quiet with hardly any road noise coming through the camera/microphone..
I'd rather take the MPG penalty of the Genesis, that the horrific depreciation and long term maintenance/repair costs of BMW/MB.
And, quite frankly, to me, the Genesis looks more elegant, design-wise.
Great insight and synergy from your collaboration, guys! I love the looks of the GV80, on a par with the Cayenne Coupe. However, I was hoping the price would be in the $70’s range.
I LOVE mine! The 2025 Gv80 is a luxury spaceship!
Ummmmm it’s a coupe.
@AJ-yf4ks mmmm. So what, its the same car minus the back. Relax.
@@JustTramayne mmmm ,mom told me never argue with a woman…so enjoy your gv 80 ! , I have a gv 80 prestiege and my Coup delivers next week. Agree to disagree
@AJ-yf4ks She was right 😉 It doesn't matter though. Be blessed my dear.
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*Question, ... how do you🙄know 🙄it's going to lease less?? ... I've been waiting on this vehicle to be released and am ready now to buy/lease, .. or whatever works best.*
Agreed with your remarks about Genesis' miss on the passenger seat features.
I truly hope Genesis consider bringing the hybrid versions of their vehicles this in my view will be the best selling point to sway the German shoppers to step away from the more recognized luxury brands everyone has grown accustomed to.
This is a beautiful car. I really wanted one but they took to long to come out with it. I will wait a year or two to see what happens with it in terms of reliability. (Gonna let Genesis work the kinks out)
Those seat belts are nice but remind me of wearing a crossing patrol belt when I was in elementary
This is a nice looking car. I’d like to see similar screen and climate controls in the Electrified GV 70. People who can afford this will determine if it’s worth it, but it does seem awfully expensive to me.
The GV70 (ice and bev) refresh is getting the same screen and similar climate controls. It's already available in S. Korea.
@@animeXL The BEV of the GV80 (and Coupe) is going to be a peach.
I'm a current Lexus ES300h F Sport driver and I'm not making a move on anything until I see what the hybrid line-up from Genesis looks like, hopefully in '25. Can't wait!
Genesis WILL be doing hybrids, they announced a few months ago
I can’t wait to see them. This will be epic
HKG seem to have a strange relationship with wireless phone projection. Some of the older, low level infotainment has it but the expensive systems didn’t, then they added it for the CCNT systems like in the EV9, but this doesn’t have it.
Also, I know Sofiyan (sorry if I misspelled) has their own channel, but I like when you two are in a video together. You are great together on camera.
Yeah good call. The low trim Santa Cruz has wireless phone projection and my top spec does not. It's annoying on short trips but wired is surely more reliable.
That 20 mpg highway is where Genesis falls behind Germans. Engine(plus trans), being the core of an ICE car, is so inefficient at similar power levels. BMW X5 50i has 22 mpg hwy and often beats it in real world.
@@Godwasyourdog gasoline is a different story; tons of real-world fuel economy tests on RUclips.
I think the fuel economy is comparable to Audi Q8 3.0T and Porsche Cayenne 3.0T.
Make this sucker an EV and I’m on board!
Love seeing my two favorite youtubers in one video!
I just wish they would fix the headlights so they were low profile and shined further. Check IIHS for reference.
Alex, I hope you paid Sofyan top dollar for his camera work. 🤩Getting back to the GV80, I have never and will never understand coupe-sedans or coupe-CUVs. 🤨
CUV = Compromised Utility Vehicle
5.8s for a 409hp sporty suv is actually a bit disappointing. That’s slower than something like Explorer ST or Aviator. The standard equipment is good, but for someone paying 87k for a sporty SUV with 409hp, it should be 0.5s faster to be more appealing.
But it’s faster than whatever Lexus has to offer so there’s that. And the gv80 is far more dynamic and better to drive and better to ride in than the Lexus
@@naveenthemachine it’s a RWD platform, if the bar is only “better than a fwd platform” then it’s definitely low effort.
99.9% of the time, owners won't feel that 0.5 difference @@jiaweichen9296
that is disappointing. I get that in my vr6 passat.
@@jb44448 5.8s is basically slower than any car that advertised on sportiness. Even Hyundai Sonata N-Line has faster 0-60.😂
Beautiful car. If I have $80k, I would buy one over BMW and Mercedes.
*I am a bit concerned about the "stance" of the vehicle appearance wise. I'd really like the Magma Variety NOW, but of course it's not available yet. I'm ready to buy, but the thinner, more inwardly tucked wheels aren't what I want on my vehicle. I guess I might have to do slight wheel spacers to get the look I want. Yeah, .. the more aggressive look means that much to me!*
GV70 has a similar climate panel. After 2 years wear is not a problem.
Genesis used to lead in the tech department, but sadly, they are falling back; not having wireless Android Auto is just sad (even if it may come in a future update), plus no built-in dash-cam! Now, even Lexus has wireless AA and a built-in dashcam, and that is not even mentioning the german cars. Add to that the fuel economy is not near most of the competition with less horsepower.
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Still, it's a lovely car for the first generation SUV from Genesis, but when comparing it with the competition, it becomes difficult to recommend.
I don't see wasted space in a cargo area. What I see is more room for more battery.
Lexus targeted Mercedes when it first came out. But it stopped doing that at some point
Coupe? The hood is chest height. This is a SUV that identifies as a coupe.
100% right. This calling everything manufacturers want to sound sexy a _"coupe"_ is ridiculous.
This is a beautiful car. I really wanted one but they took to long to come out with it.
I love the GV80 Coupe but they really need to lower the price on this SUV. Also its not selling well because of the price. Plus the resale on the Genesis are not great at all except for GV70. They need to hurry up and bring the Magma and Black editions to the 🇺🇸.
Reading all these comments about genesis almost half price of Germans… please do simple action. Go to official site and build the car out of configurator. Checked the bmw and genesis configurators on the official sites. Finally next prices for bmw x5 xdrive40 2025 OR m-appearance with executive, air suspension, 4 zone climate 89k vs Genesis gv80 2024 no air suspension and 3zone climate 84.7k ( 2025 80k as they delete almost all trims). Please check on your own eyes.
Shocked at how low end the German base models are. Plastic seats?
I do not want wider tires in the back. Thanks lol
Interesting that different markets have different features. In Canada, the passenger seat of the 409 hp version has the same functionality as the driver seat. Also the Canadian version has Terrain mode built into the drive selector mode for mud, snow, sand. Four winter tires and rims are also included and you get 5 years of twice a year tire changes as well as off season storage of your tires.
That's got to be a $2500 value! Do you lose other features to compensate or just pay more?
@rafeevans Price in Canada is $104,000 Cdn$. Using the current exchange that is about $79,000 in US$. Only the 409 Hp 48V model is available in Canada. We also get 5 years of maintenance included.
Taking the passenger seat massage out of the United States' GV80 coupes is just dirty pool (or egregious cost cutting) on Genesis' part, imo. Nobody deserves a good bum massage like an American carpooler riding shotgun on a long commute.
Good review and nice ride. But please, people who believe you can have 4 different zones of climate within the confines of a car are just so lol. 😅
Remember the good old days when tires actually had sidewalls and could survive the railroad tracks, pot holes and speed bumps found on the road? I don't understand why manufacturers are regressing to wagon wheels.
manufacturers are regressing because customers want wagon wheels. i like sidewalls too but people associate having sidewalls with being poor
There is a brake size consideration (heavier and higher performing modern vehicles warrant larger brake rotors and calipers, which require larger wheels for them to fit under) but for the most part yeah it’s all clever brainwashing of the target demographic. Heck even brake size probably is inflated in part to the aesthetics and filling in the larger wheels.
Agreed. I had AMG wheels and while they looked cool(ish) I got flats. Now I swap for meatier tires if necessary because.... NYC.
Yeah and I remember when a Mr. Goodbar was a nickel too. Nostalgia is a game that goes on forever. The stylists have won on this front and there is no turning back I'm afraid.
Will there be a GV70 coupe?
Genesis: when the cover band charges more for concert tickets than the actual band... I could write several pages about all the styling touches that I don't like about this car, but overall, a 75k Stinger Outback holds zero appeal to me, even if comes with the Bently Tribute Package with enough chrome to make a Harley owner blush. I like the Model X better than this and that thing is just weird. Alex, as always, is impeccable.
Excellent review. But this is the bottom line: Something is off kilter when what started as a value proposition has a $5K premium starting price over it's more established rivals. That is ridiculous. I knew it was a matter of time before Genesis prices started creeping up. It was just a matter of time before greed took over. This vehicle should have topped out at $65K max. Pricing and warranty should make this vehicle outsell the competition but I don't see it happening. At the current pricing this will be a tough sell.
Mileage is horrible.
Who cares? Nobody’s buying a luxury car for fuel economy 😂
@@naveenthemachine When I am looking at competing SUVS in the coupe market - I am. Getting 20 mpg is ridiculous. I should know since my X6 would only get 15 mpg like a tractor truck in the 70's!
@@anthonyv1719 but those buyers generally don’t care about mpg
@@naveenthemachine True. I agree.
@@anthonyv1719if you really care about operation cost but still want fast 0-60 time, PHEV or EV is basically the only possible solution. My Explorer ST also goes around 16 for my daily usage.
The Acura ZDX is the OG Asian SUV coupe and was ahead of its time.
Nah, the Infiniti FX was the OG Asian SUV Coupe, and it had the power and handling to back up its looks.
Nah, the Infiniti FX was the OG Asian SUV Coupe, and it had the power and handling to back up its looks.
I don’t really see the coupe in the FX. The ZDX was ahead of its time.
Don't people know about Genesis?
It is your responsibilty. Are you not an influencer?
Hey, Genesis. Do not waste your money for this guys.
They have no impact for your brand.
That’s odd …just finished financing one in Jonesboro AR. Alex clearly informed me and many others .
So for those LED headlights, if one goes out then the whole side needs replacement? Yikes
Looks great
Why would you pay this much for a Korean car? No way
Is he aware that there is a gv80 coupe gt coming?
Hi Alex, how high are the floors from the seats on this car compared to the Ioniq 5? Will long legged folks find themselves “crouching” more in this car vs the Ioniq 5?
no A/C when stopped?!?! 🙄 Come on.
There’s a button
@@AJ-yf4ks Is it push once or every startup?
@@hackztor ill ley you know in 48hrs …
Genesis continues to exceed expectations.😍
In the luxury space go big or go home.
So much to love about this, but that tacked on display looks terrible.
Maybe it’s not coming across well on camera but I don’t like that carbon fiber trip that everywhere, like at all. Looks cheap imo
Why calling it a coupe?
Sloped back. Reduced headroom/storage space.
the carbon fiber trim design is hideous...
They are pricing knowing they will discount heavily and make more money than pricing just right and needing to discount. Won't ever consider a Genesis because of their pricing strategy.
I look at the execution of the car proportional to the value
The gv80 is so well executed that it commands the price tag
I don’t believe they’ve ever discounted these cars. All vehicles are just more expensive these days.
I don’t feel like they have proved themselves enough to charge that. It’s nice to have all those options but if it’s sitting in the driveway or the dealer with mess up’s it doesn’t matter really
Prove themselves? You ever hear of J D Powers? How about 4 consecutive years in a row with innovative and technology safety awards!! Smh
Is it reliable?
Genesis reliability has been excellent and their long warranty really helps
@@naveenthemachine Genesis came in 18th place for reliability as a brand with a CR rating of 44, barely beating Audi with 43.
Lexus was #1 with a 79. Toyota was #2 at 76.
rotary gear selector is a no go for me I had a 2022 gv80. X5 is not available with air all around
Thank you for telling me how often you have to worry about bring alone.
why call a four door a coupe? just to be cute!
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Genesis > Germans
Calling a 4 door SUV a Coupe is dumb!
Parts for a Genesis are scarce as hen's teeth. Dealers do not even stock GV70 rear window glass. Wait for it to be manufactured in Korea and sent overseas. No after market.
The BMW is uglier, less reliable, and comes with vinyl seats... Genesis all the way FTW, it's simply a better car.
Why making a video with this beautiful looking car inside and outside but the upholstery in this very boring gray/black color.
Genesis offer very beautiful upholstery colors but this one is very boring. It down grade the car..!!
😂😂😂 what are you viewing this video on? Kin 1 or Kin 2 ? The exterior color is BERING BLUE …it’s gorgeous …..the interior is ultramarine blue with orange stitching. Again gorgeous!.
@@AJ-yf4ks there's no accounting for taste..!!!
When the upholstery is in cream/white or in brown is so much more beautiful.
@@jan117 50/50
4 door Coupé?
"Suspension airbags can cost $1500 a pop to replace". Pardon the pun. 🙂
That's one (or four) of the reasons why a lot of these will end up being leased. Pop, pop, pop & POP! It's a wear item that eventually need service/replacement.
Alex, I'd like to see you poll your viewers and ask if they have any interest in having fake engine noise in their vehicle. Hope it is a fad that will soon be ending.
"Coupe" SUVs are moronically stupid. It's an SUV with less utility for more money. No thank you very much.
Kia reliability, Kia depreciation, and Kia service for more than a BMW. I’m not surprised I haven’t seen a Genesis on the road in many months.
Kia reliability has been good so far beating Honda
Besides you’re not going to buy a car because it depreciates little or because it breaks all the time. Kia’s aren’t land rovers you know
Besides if what you said is true why is the telluride outselling the pilot? Exactly. Because your comment is objectively wrong
Sooooo dumb!! What does Kia have to do with this Genesis?
@@naveenthemachine Kia beating Honda? LOL, in your dreams.
Kia didn't do badly on the CR brand ratings, but it's in 10th place with a score of 56. Honda is #5 at 70.
Genesis as a brand is #18 with a cumulative score of 44.
@@SirOsisofLiverthe people who buy BMW will not check cr as it is destiny for Toyota and Honda drivers )))
So ignorant. That’s fine, more for the rest of us
Not impressed. "Large" panoramic roof? Feeble sunshade for that sunroof. "Blank" central section of the dashboard screen? For $80k. No thanks.
Not as competition to Lexus is nasty work. Get real with yourself.
He’s right. You’re wrong. Genesis is what Lexus should be. But Lexus is the next Infiniti. Lexus doesn’t really exist anymore. The competition has moved on and forgotten its existence for good reason
Eventually you’ll lose your job as a Lexus marketing sheep and be forced to go elsewhere😂. So you shouldn’t be here saying they’re junk when almost nobody including Alex agrees with you
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Total Lexus sales were over 320k for 2023, up 24% from 2022.
Genesis was up a similar 23%, from 56k to 69k (nice) last year, about the same as Infiniti's 65k. Even moribund Lincoln managed 81k.
Lexus isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
@@SirOsisofLiver Lexus outsells both of them? Sure. But McDonalds also sells more burgers than five guys. But does that make McDonald’s objectively superior to five guys? No it doesn’t
Same logic here: Lexus may outsells those brands but that doesn’t mean Lexus is more fun to drive or more luxurious or more comfortable or faster or more powerful or more advanced or more sophisticated than those brands.
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Lexus sells 4.6 times as many cars as Genesis, and at a higher average transaction price, has better depreciation curves, and still has an extremely good reliability rating from CR.
To be accurate, it would be like Five Guys outselling McDonalds in your analogy.
Nope, it’s still just a Lexus competitor
"coupe"
What does that word even mean anymore?
$87K? Get real Hyundai.
It’s worth it though. You can spend this much and get a significantly worse vehicle
They are
This comment is like you're looking at an Audi, but then you say get real Volkswagen 🤣🤣
GENESIS=LUXERY BRAND. Hyundai= NOT A GENESIS
Imagine calling a Lamborghini, Porsche or Bugatti a Volkswagen and Blaming them for not price like a Jetta.
$80k for a Hyundai is a hard sell for me.
Who dresses this guy? The pants are distracting. Holy crap
The exterior styling will not age well, the front already looks dated.
Nah. This will age extremely well. Besides there are uglier vehicles that are dated in just about every aspect
I like most everything about the car except the big grill. Although the Lexus might have an even bigger grill.
28:40. I tried to tell you Alex the new Lexus models would be very disappointing. But you didn’t even give me credit for being right 😂. All you did was laugh. I called it that this would happen and indeed it did. Now where’s your acknowledgement that your favorite Toyota was right😂
The rest of you failed miserably to prove your favorite Toyota hater wrong. But you can’t fathom your ego being at risk so you preserve it by attacking me
But your remarks are proof that the time to Lexus’ demise is accelerating. They’re gonna be gone very soon
bruh GENESIS has yet to prove anything!
@@KuyaArbee what do they need to prove? They’ve proven they can build a proper Lexus. They can build a world class luxury car. This isn’t 1990. This is 2024. Things change. It’s called progress.
No one buys a luxury car for reliability or efficiency. If you want the luxury of reliability and mpg just get a Prius
So if anything your comment got disproven very quickly.
Nice try pal. Got anymore failed arguments 😂
@@naveenthemachine what world class car? Lmao 🤣 bruh 😎 nobody going to buy a Genesis if it’s the price of a bmw and Mercedes. No one truly cross shops a genesis… also their dealer network sucks
@@KuyaArbee genesis is the Asian bmw. Sure bmw Mercedes are “better” still but remember that getting the same amount of features in the bmw or Mercedes to match the genesis will cost you significantly more
Also genesis can have the worst dealer experience in history and still produce better quality luxury cars
Lexus has the best quality luxury vehicle owner experience but Genesis has the best quality luxury vehicles period. And the car is more important than the brand
Lexus is officially overrated! Instead of luxury which it should be, the interior Leans more towards premium. It's officially the "monkey see monkey do brand" because they so Reliable 🙄. Yet Toyota is constantly proving that they have issues just like every other manufacturer. Hence the big engine recall going on for their new V6 powertrain.
Cadillac Lyriq is far far better and far more range.
Don't get me wrong. I love the Lyriq but this vehicle is not an EV. They are both in a different class
@@chudson4500 agreed, but for the price you can get an EV with similar performance is what I meant, but yes, there are far better alternatives to this. The price is outlandish. But yes, agree with you.
I'd probably buy the Lyriq immediately ... if it wasn't an EV!
Love the way yanks mispronounce coupe.
I love the way Limeys mispronounce fillet. ;-) If you're going to go all-in on French pronunciations...
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Alex had a go at mangling Cabriolet on one video, zut alors 😽