Normally I pick something even slightly off meta and people start question mark spamming me. Wukong, Jax, Aatrox, Viego mid, etc. And for transparency’s sake that’s in goldish elo.
I think Galeforce was probably a mistake. Even on ADCs, Galeforce is usually considered a defensive low-damage option. I'd have gone Bork instead, as it's the single highest AA DPS item in the game, and Janna even synergizes with the movespeed steal. Rageblade second would then boost both the Bork and your passive's on-hit damage, and you stack it quickly because of the HoB. Generally speaking, for any off-meta ADC-like pick, you're going to find the most success going one of Bork, Triforce, or Shiv first item, depending on kit and what you're trying to accomplish. Since Janna doesn't have any particular synergy with Triforce, that leaves Bork or Shiv.
bork is best on champions with an attack speed steroid. janna gets on-hit scaling with her movespeed, but no built-in attack speed. rageblade + movement speed legendary items gives ideal synergy, as all the movespeed mythics don't give enough speed to be worth it.
@@c.j.8263 That. Doesn't. Matter. It doesn't matter what Bork is "best" on. It doesn't matter that Janna lacks an inherent AS steroid. Bork just gives more damage. Period. Your "ideal synergy" supposes that Janna's MS is a big enough source of damage to be worth explicitly building for over the alternatives, but you clearly have never run the math. With just boots and lv5 W, Janna has 407 MS. After acquiring a 7% MS item, she goes up to 429 MS. Janna has 325 base MS, and converts 30% of her bonus MS into damage, so this is +25 (407 MS) to +31 (429 MS) on-hit damage. Bork's on-hit deals 9% of the target's current health. A lv9 opponent probably has somewhere around 1200 total health, if they're a squishy champion. Bruisers and tanks will have more. On average, Bork will be hitting a target at 50% health, so we take 9% of 600, for 54 on-hit damage. This is a *baseline*, a number that will only grow as the game goes on and enemies start having more health. This is in addition to the 40 AD and 25% AS Bork gives, and its 3-hit passive. After building Bork, you now have enough on-hit damage to make Rageblade worthwhile. That's 25 (Janna) + 54 (Bork) + 30 (Rageblade) = 109 on-hit damage against a 600 current HP enemy. If you had just rushed Rageblade, it would only be 25 (Janna) + 30 (Rageblade) = 55 on-hit damage, which is hardly worth multiplying. If you had built a Zeal item first, it would be 31 (Janna) + 30 (Rageblade) + 30 (converted crit) = 91 on-hit damage, which is *still* less damage than Bork. Nevermind the fact that by second item, champions have more than 1200 total health, meaning Bork's damage is already scaling up from its baseline. By lategame, even squishies have 1800+ HP, taking an average of 81 on-hit damage per hit from Bork alone. Let's not forget that Bork itself *also* has special Janna synergy. When Bork's 3-hit passive triggers, it gives +25% MS for 3s, so Janna will hit 480 MS (with no other MS items) or 493 MS (with one +7% MS item; each subsequent MS item adds another 13 MS). This gives her +46 to +50 on-hit damage during this time, instead of +25 to +31. But even without this, it would *still* be her best rush option. Seriously, Bork damage is immense. There's still a legitimate reason you might want to rush Shiv instead (waveclear), but you can't compete with Bork in terms of raw damage output.
It's a good support into short range matchups bot. You can harrass them, get prio, roam mid, etc and still have great disengaged with Janna support later in the game.
havent finished the video but ive seen people say it's popular in kr high elo as a supp where u just play as enchanter version of hob ashe, and her passive ms sort of kind of makes up for the not having 600 auto range
This build reminds me of myself in my early days in season 2 building infinity edge and 5 phantom dancers on everyone because i thought they were the best items ever lmao
Hey! I’ve been experimenting with Janna Mid and Jungle and I’ve found that my favorite builds actually use Glacial Augment or Electrocute and goes for a more Hybrid AD/AP style. Boots of Swiftness, Nashor’s tooth, Triforce, Shiv/stormrazor, Cosmic Drive, and BORK means you get a mean Roaming On-hit build that is hard to build against.
Janna mid is such an interesting pick tbh. Pekin went up against a hyper gank jungler like Jarvan and I think only died once from it? And in the process having em burn flashes. Then outside of lanning phase it's clear while providing utility, his damage was stacking up with others and they won a lot of fights. Obviously the brand popped off as well, but the pick is genuinely interesting. Didn't feel like an easy comp to fight into but it worked. Really cool game.
Ur supposed to play this bot lane with a Zill sup. (his speed up gives you absurd extra dmg, you also go Ghost/flash) Rush storm razor, Swifties then RFC, (you go Mana flow band and celerity secondary)
ive been trying this out with PTA or fleet and ghost didnt think about HoB but maybe I'll try this too. and in supp role. Farming as janna just feels rlly hard wo Q spam bc of mana issues and low early dmg even with cull so I had to rush statik.
Did Pekin get First Blood? Nope. Win streak lost! Last streak was of 1. First Blood was by ally Draven around the 3:32 mark. Pekin's First Bloods: 24 Allies' First Bloods: 60 Enemies' First Bloods: 60 Win streak: 0 Lose streak: 1 Highest win streak: 3 Highest lose streak: 23 Total games registered: 144
Seems like a pointless build to even attempt. You don't really have access to half the kit, you're constantly in fear of every other champion, all you're doing is auto attacking and slowing one person. There's a dozen champion who can achieve the same playstyle but better, so why even bother trying to make it viable?
It's not about "making it viable" - it's about trying something out. Plus mid is a SOLO lane. So only being able to slow 1 person is all that matters, for the most part. Plus you have 2 forms of self peel (first is your Q and second is your R). Ridiculous movespeed, even without boots, so ganks are pretty easy to run form (unless it's J4). Not every champion has to be able to affect the whole battlefield to be useful. It only takes killing 1 key champion for the whole fight to fall apart.
@@Dyanosis It's a 5v5 game mate, 'solo' lane does not mean your lane is solo, the junglers, tops and supports will constantly be ganking once you leave your low rank playing. I mean just looking at the roster Vayne is a better pick to achieve the same thing. A knockback, a gap creator and stealth all while not doing horrendous damage. Or Akshan with his impossible to gank getaway. Or Ezreal with his blink. Heck even Gnar has a jump and does this better than Janna. Quinn is insanley hard to gank and super fast if you want speed and a useful kit. That's just to name a few off the top of my head. This pick is pointless and just bad. Trying to force something that isn't there. Jarvan isn't the only one who can easily gank Janna, all the main junglers can with gap closers, like Khaz, Shaco, Reksai to name a few. But all it takes is a single hard CC from your opponent and any jungler can gank Janna. Shes squishy as hell.
You know the build is jank when even the title can't hype it up
"it was not that bad" is a very funny title
Bekin never fails to deliver on titles
Honestly the titles/legit content is what keeps me watching.
"I tried this secret Asia server build, and its ok I think. Maybe"
I enjoy playing lethal tempo janna, watching the top laners get really mad while I kite their ass is funny
Your team's ability to have good mental despite having a Janna adc mid is beyond me
Normally I pick something even slightly off meta and people start question mark spamming me. Wukong, Jax, Aatrox, Viego mid, etc.
And for transparency’s sake that’s in goldish elo.
I mean... Brand jungle.
Don't look up the winrate to brand jungle
@@DyanosisBrand jg has a 3:01 clear if you are good. The pick is op
I think Galeforce was probably a mistake. Even on ADCs, Galeforce is usually considered a defensive low-damage option. I'd have gone Bork instead, as it's the single highest AA DPS item in the game, and Janna even synergizes with the movespeed steal. Rageblade second would then boost both the Bork and your passive's on-hit damage, and you stack it quickly because of the HoB.
Generally speaking, for any off-meta ADC-like pick, you're going to find the most success going one of Bork, Triforce, or Shiv first item, depending on kit and what you're trying to accomplish. Since Janna doesn't have any particular synergy with Triforce, that leaves Bork or Shiv.
runnan is good
bork is best on champions with an attack speed steroid. janna gets on-hit scaling with her movespeed, but no built-in attack speed. rageblade + movement speed legendary items gives ideal synergy, as all the movespeed mythics don't give enough speed to be worth it.
@@groselhadas6532 yes
@@c.j.8263 That. Doesn't. Matter. It doesn't matter what Bork is "best" on. It doesn't matter that Janna lacks an inherent AS steroid. Bork just gives more damage. Period.
Your "ideal synergy" supposes that Janna's MS is a big enough source of damage to be worth explicitly building for over the alternatives, but you clearly have never run the math.
With just boots and lv5 W, Janna has 407 MS. After acquiring a 7% MS item, she goes up to 429 MS. Janna has 325 base MS, and converts 30% of her bonus MS into damage, so this is +25 (407 MS) to +31 (429 MS) on-hit damage.
Bork's on-hit deals 9% of the target's current health. A lv9 opponent probably has somewhere around 1200 total health, if they're a squishy champion. Bruisers and tanks will have more. On average, Bork will be hitting a target at 50% health, so we take 9% of 600, for 54 on-hit damage. This is a *baseline*, a number that will only grow as the game goes on and enemies start having more health. This is in addition to the 40 AD and 25% AS Bork gives, and its 3-hit passive.
After building Bork, you now have enough on-hit damage to make Rageblade worthwhile. That's 25 (Janna) + 54 (Bork) + 30 (Rageblade) = 109 on-hit damage against a 600 current HP enemy. If you had just rushed Rageblade, it would only be 25 (Janna) + 30 (Rageblade) = 55 on-hit damage, which is hardly worth multiplying. If you had built a Zeal item first, it would be 31 (Janna) + 30 (Rageblade) + 30 (converted crit) = 91 on-hit damage, which is *still* less damage than Bork. Nevermind the fact that by second item, champions have more than 1200 total health, meaning Bork's damage is already scaling up from its baseline. By lategame, even squishies have 1800+ HP, taking an average of 81 on-hit damage per hit from Bork alone.
Let's not forget that Bork itself *also* has special Janna synergy. When Bork's 3-hit passive triggers, it gives +25% MS for 3s, so Janna will hit 480 MS (with no other MS items) or 493 MS (with one +7% MS item; each subsequent MS item adds another 13 MS). This gives her +46 to +50 on-hit damage during this time, instead of +25 to +31. But even without this, it would *still* be her best rush option.
Seriously, Bork damage is immense. There's still a legitimate reason you might want to rush Shiv instead (waveclear), but you can't compete with Bork in terms of raw damage output.
@@caliburnleaf9323 damn bro got prompted to wrote a thesis on as janna by a yt comment
You should go stormrazor, runaans hurricane and galeforce on janna because she controls wind
rossboomsocks type beat
@@tahthetrickster The crossover I've been waiting years for
It's a good support into short range matchups bot. You can harrass them, get prio, roam mid, etc and still have great disengaged with Janna support later in the game.
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havent finished the video but ive seen people say it's popular in kr high elo as a supp where u just play as enchanter version of hob ashe, and her passive ms sort of kind of makes up for the not having 600 auto range
On-hit, AD steroid AND attack speed? S-tier champ confirmed
This build reminds me of myself in my early days in season 2 building infinity edge and 5 phantom dancers on everyone because i thought they were the best items ever lmao
Janna was my first main and it feels so weird to see Pekin playing her after all those years.
Your first main was the toilet paper fairy? Why?
Have you seen the Janna top game?
@@xhoidlostblade3856 I did! Also felt kinda wild. ^^
I think it's the sound effects on the auto and the tornado. So nostalgic for me.
1:03 that frame perfect timing to attack Zed without taking minion damage was really cool
Pekin be really saving his flash for Christmas. Bro never uses it.
it's to impress mariah carey
forever watching pekin play
Hey! I’ve been experimenting with Janna Mid and Jungle and I’ve found that my favorite builds actually use Glacial Augment or Electrocute and goes for a more Hybrid AD/AP style. Boots of Swiftness, Nashor’s tooth, Triforce, Shiv/stormrazor, Cosmic Drive, and BORK means you get a mean Roaming On-hit build that is hard to build against.
The nice thing about you going AD rather than ap on this build is that it lured me (and I assume others) to watch.
Day 21 of wanting Pekin to play Jayce or Viktor in the mid-lane (there's a higher chance of him playing every support mid before these two, rip)
Every time I see "could of" I die a little inside.
What about "should of" or "would of"? Apparently those don't hurt you at all? Weird.
@@Dyanosis I hate you...
lol classic american education
Janna mid is such an interesting pick tbh. Pekin went up against a hyper gank jungler like Jarvan and I think only died once from it? And in the process having em burn flashes. Then outside of lanning phase it's clear while providing utility, his damage was stacking up with others and they won a lot of fights. Obviously the brand popped off as well, but the pick is genuinely interesting. Didn't feel like an easy comp to fight into but it worked. Really cool game.
This definetely is going to inspired softcore troll picks
Pekin could you play Fiddle mid in the PBE with Malignance and Storm Surge?
So Mr hotshot. Can do win 10 aram games in a row?
This might be more meta than Janna support herself tbh, lmao
It's not like she got buffed two patches in a row and has high win rate in high elo
“I feel like I’m gonna get ganked”
Ur supposed to play this bot lane with a Zill sup. (his speed up gives you absurd extra dmg, you also go Ghost/flash) Rush storm razor, Swifties then RFC, (you go Mana flow band and celerity secondary)
This was a great video on the power of Brand! Lol
jannas aa sound makes me crazy i cant stop hearing it😭
The whole rune-page is set up around her on-hit passive scaling with move speed. So u need to rush boots and movespeed items i would think? 🤔
i am literally so happy right now
This looks cool, don’t play ranked tommorow
ive been trying this out with PTA or fleet and ghost didnt think about HoB but maybe I'll try this too. and in supp role. Farming as janna just feels rlly hard wo Q spam bc of mana issues and low early dmg even with cull so I had to rush statik.
TLDR: janna ad mid is not bad if you got 4 teammates who can carry you through the whole game.
That Brand really decided to jungle diff xD
the first time i saw this was with runaans and ardent censor.
this build unironically good on support
Did Pekin get First Blood? Nope. Win streak lost!
Last streak was of 1.
First Blood was by ally Draven around the 3:32 mark.
Pekin's First Bloods: 24
Allies' First Bloods: 60
Enemies' First Bloods: 60
Win streak: 0
Lose streak: 1
Highest win streak: 3
Highest lose streak: 23
Total games registered: 144
Dude once I dialed into the Janna auto sfx, it's all I can hear and it's ruining the vid lol
Thank you for the free lp pekin, today I played against a janna doing this exact build.
Ad Janna has been a thing since like season 3.
3:50 he might die to minion balls
Awesome video pekingeser
I Love u pekin. Keep being u
in pekin we trust
Should play it bot with zilean he adds like 50 on hit damage with his E
Oh no, not janna again
you mean oh yes janna.
plot armor brand fr
This title cracking me up 😭
Yayyy new video
HAIL OF BLADES JANNA DECIMATES HIGH ELO
Top lane + Fleet + nashors + stattik
The Janna AA sound is really really really annoying
1:29 then just W to last hit its not that big mana and ure full allmost
yeah I don't know about this one
back to commenting for algorithm
Nice vid
hah zed died to minion balls
minion balls
Day 4 of asking Pekin to play AP KOGMAW for s14
Honestly if you went triforce prolly could did decent damage
Aanna AA sound is sooo annoying lol
As pekin waveeclear: GO JANNA GOOO!
also: 69th comment
Please play tank kled mid
Zigza
Hey
Bro wtf my whole life is a lie. Your account name is Shiba Lnu not Shiba Inu? W t f pekin why
Wp
Seems like a pointless build to even attempt. You don't really have access to half the kit, you're constantly in fear of every other champion, all you're doing is auto attacking and slowing one person. There's a dozen champion who can achieve the same playstyle but better, so why even bother trying to make it viable?
Because its fun to try new things sometimes
It's not about "making it viable" - it's about trying something out. Plus mid is a SOLO lane. So only being able to slow 1 person is all that matters, for the most part. Plus you have 2 forms of self peel (first is your Q and second is your R). Ridiculous movespeed, even without boots, so ganks are pretty easy to run form (unless it's J4).
Not every champion has to be able to affect the whole battlefield to be useful. It only takes killing 1 key champion for the whole fight to fall apart.
@@Dyanosis It's a 5v5 game mate, 'solo' lane does not mean your lane is solo, the junglers, tops and supports will constantly be ganking once you leave your low rank playing. I mean just looking at the roster Vayne is a better pick to achieve the same thing. A knockback, a gap creator and stealth all while not doing horrendous damage. Or Akshan with his impossible to gank getaway. Or Ezreal with his blink. Heck even Gnar has a jump and does this better than Janna. Quinn is insanley hard to gank and super fast if you want speed and a useful kit. That's just to name a few off the top of my head. This pick is pointless and just bad. Trying to force something that isn't there. Jarvan isn't the only one who can easily gank Janna, all the main junglers can with gap closers, like Khaz, Shaco, Reksai to name a few. But all it takes is a single hard CC from your opponent and any jungler can gank Janna. Shes squishy as hell.
Bet you everything this guy is paid by Riot. Single handedly getting banned half of the people playing 😂
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here pal
Then don't watch.
@@Dyanosis Tbh i zoned tf out and like halfway through wondered to myself wtf was i watching XD. You're right.
I'll be honest, this one is not it