Is LaTocha's Husband Secretly Getting Kickbacks? | SWV & XSCAPE: The Queens of R&B (S1 E6) | Bravo
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- The ladies of Xscape question fellow group member LaTocha Scott-Bivens about the possibility of her husband, Rocky Bivens, receiving kickbacks from a promoter for setting up a show with the group.
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These girls need to sue Rocky, a.k.a. Edward Bivens And his wife. And that’s all!
I think they need to drop it and let it go, and remove lowtocha from the group.
@@justsaynototv8366 😂😂 lowtosha!!! Love it
Sue them!
@@justsaynototv8366 😂😂😂Chile, where y’all be getting these names from? I’m dead 🪦💀
That part
Tocha is on here like: Oh Oh Oh so we’re just believing receipts now?!?
Everyone: YES!
😂😂😂
💀
😂😂😂
😭😭🤣😂😅😆
😂😂😭😭😢😢ok we might need a t-shirt for that statement right there. I say go ahead & get it patent right now😂😂😂🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
Am I hearing this wrong or did Rocky basically just admit to getting paid? Since he brought the deal he got ‘paid’, not understanding it’s the same thing as a kickback. He shady as hell.
It’s the “if someone paying me they owe me” for me personally. I would like him more if he just said “yeah I took a kickback, and what. It was a deal I was the face for” but the dancing around a yes or a no too much
@@levilikens2287 exactly! Just own up to it instead of trying to act like everyone is crazy for saying you took a kickback (when you did).
They got caught in the cookie jar being greedy
Right!!!! Its literally the same thing 😩😫 he stay contradicting himself. Hes a terrible liar and manipulator and latocha is dumb and gullible!
“I do the deal. If somebody paying me, that means they owe me. That means I did the deal”.
That’s the same as a kick back… 🤦🏽♂️
The way Tamika had that folder tucked behind her like “go head and lie, guh!” She was ready 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how even tempered Tiny is
She probably use to T.I. bs
I love her but In that moment i probably would’ve said something to her 😂😂😂😂
She paid either way I would be calm to.
@@keepsit100atalltime9 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rocky is a clear example of what our mama’s and daddy’s called “Jive Turkeys”😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Hell naw 😂😂😂 I don’t know why I pictured Sweet Lenny from Good Times
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
🤣🤣
“So y’all believe text messages”😭😭😭😭😭
🤣🤣🤣.. Yes Ma'am Who Else knows Rocky B. Phone 🤳🏾 # You Did Not Answer The ? Ma'am.. (LATOCHA) Is That Rockies Phone # ?!..
Like it’s blue n white 👁👄👁
Girl bye, Tocha you know what he does.
Rocky: We don’t NEED kickbacks! We don’t want kickbacks!
Tocha: We get kickbacks sometimes.
Rocky: Girl shut up! I said we don’t need kickbacks! Get with the program!
That’s what I heard 🤷🏽♂️😂
AND SAW! lol. 🤦🏽♀️
She's talking too much 😂
😂😂😂
I heard the same thing. LMAO
Especially when he turned to her, he basically said shut the F up
I think rocky on that sh*t!! They lied and then admitted it. Then justified it, then went home and blamed it on Kandi 😭
Right like get yo lies straight Rocky and Bullwinkle 😂😂😂 they trying to confuse the hell out of anyone who will listen
they blamed it on Kandi?
@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona They always do
@@hikama.3318 Factz, anyone that doesn't have a brain or common sense will be confused 🤔🙄🤦🏽♀️
First off, Rocky is sitting there with a full face of Fenty😂. I never want this show to end. I love the way Kandi holds Latoxic's wig to the fire. Girl play with someone else, but not Kandi Koated's coin. She didn't even see the proof and was already saying to Tamika what he didn't do. She is scandalous. Whatever "kickback" he feels he's owed should come out of Tocha's cut!
Chile Rocky a thiefin' mess! But, you sayin' he sitting there givin' Fenty 'NO' Beauty! 😂
That's what I said 😅😅😅 looks like he had eye liner on too 😅😅😅 Rocky please 🙄🤣
Right, i see he gotta hide the raccoon eyes he usually has. Now, what I don’t know is if it was his idea or production. 😂😂. But dude got a full beat going.
NOT A FULL FACE OF FENTY😂😂😂
why are you shaming him for possibly wearing makeup? That was toxic and unnecessary.
LaTocha's so in denial and delusional
She also seems to already be ready with an excuse if it turns out to be true as to why it's not wrong! It's the first half of the narcissist's prayer:
"That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it."
Just depressing as hell I never want to be a woman brought to my knees like this.
I personally don't think she is. She may not know EVERYTHING, but she is NOT DELUSIONAL! My OWN opinion!
She ain’t in denial. She’s in cahoots.
She's not in denial. She's in defense.
I feel like Kandi has given her tons of outs when it comes to the shady business. Instead of taking it she just dips or shuts down. That tells she knows but won’t go against the story she wants to tell.
Calling it something different doesn't make it something different. Taking money without all the women knowing about the deal is a kickback, Rocky.
Right. The Bivens love to play semantics games to obscure their shenanigans. If he's using the entire group's name, likeness, image, and performances to get paid money that the entire group isn't privy to, hasn't discussed, or contractually agreed upon, it's a kickback.
@@tincredible THAT PART...I WISH U HAD WROTE THIS ON THE MAIN PAGE!! YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD🎯...& HE NEEDS HIS AZZ BEAT FOR THAT BS!!! 🙄🤡
IMHO, the tone of the text message sounds very generic. I think it's some foolery, being pulled by the producers, in order to stir up more drama. Kandi, Tamika and Tiny's body languages seem to suggest that they know this is some industry game being played. All 3 of them are looking at Tocha like, "Girl, just play along."...But she ain't going.
Pure manipulation.
@@sistersophya6456 Rocky is so naturally unscrupulous that producers wouldn't have to manufacture a scandal around his name. When he and his wife conspired to steal Tamika's SoundExchange checks, they had no way of knowing that they'd be on a reality TV show a decade later. I think the cameras are merely capturing the Bivens' in their natural element. Also, Tiny and Kandi have done RUclips videos stating that they've LONG heard that Rocky was receiving kickbacks for Xscape performances, but they had no concrete proof prior to seeing the texts. So, if he was receiving kickbacks long before they knew they'd be doing a reality show, then I can certainly believe that this is a real storyline.
@@sistersophya6456 I doubt that. This is a limited 6 episode series that won't have a reunion, and after this none of the women want to do another show like this together. So what does this gain? Why lie, why would Tamika throw her sister under the bus for this type of show? Kandi isn't a liar, and she and Tiny certainly don't need to come up with fake stories to get attention. Anything is possible, you could be right. I just don't believe these women would go that low. This isn't Love and Hip hop.
Imagine what this group could have been without this toxicity
But everybody blame Kandi
@@Beautifulme1976 it's so weird to me that they blame her for everything.
The toxic ones are the least successful ones... Kandi and Tiny doing very well and they are less problematic in the group
toxi-Rocky
@@yolandaclarke7949 Yep. And something tells me that Tamika would have been right up there with Kandi & Tiny in success if she had seen the light earlier & not blindly followed her sister for all of those years. If only the epiphany she's having now had been had in the early 2000s...
But I suppose that hindsight is always 20/20.
"We bout to have a business meeting" Pulls out scandal receipts 😂
Tiny is the ultimate definition of cool, calm and collected! 🤩
For real. If not for her, this wouldn’t have gotten off the ground.
I dont think Tocha is delusional at all. I think shes aware of everything but gotta show a unified front for everyone else.
Agreed!
IMHO, the tone of the text message sounds very generic. I think it's some foolery, being pulled by the producers, in order to stir up more drama. Kandi, Tamika and Tiny's body languages seem to suggest that they know this is some industry game being played. All 3 of them are looking at Tocha like, "Girl, just play along."...But she ain't going.
Pure manipulation.
@Sister Sophya Rocky is this you? You under so many comments with this mess.. Them text don't sound generic at all.. It's federal🤣
😂 Nope, just wanted to see who would bite bait.
"Hollywood" and media are rocking people to sleep. There's a lot of wicked, manipulative games being played in the media and entertainment industries.
Holding fast to a given narrative is a slippery slope.
@@only1zay31 right, 😭😭🤣😂😅😆
He just oozes manipulative slimeball
Yes! His movements and everything 😂😂😂
Yassssssss to slimeball activities. He is sickening
FIR REAL!!! He makes my skin crawl!
@@BeverlyLeeCreates 💯
Chile seen this comment before I seen them talking in the confessional 😂 I had to come back to this comment cause wtf did I just see 🤦🏽♀️ he look like he got into the booger sugar
What Rocky is saying usually involves that being in a *CONTRACT.* What he *ACTUALLY* did was a kickback through a side deal in text messages. Then for Tocha to call the ‘5th memba’ to basically gaslight them girls is unbelievable. I’d never work with her again because I would not be able to trust her again, in my humble opinion. 🙄
And that's exactly what Kandi said...they can't be trusted
EXACTLY!!! 💯💯💯
@@lovelyrithatsme7050Tiny said so as well on Speak On It & that's the peacemaker 😩
Exactly. And her mama on the phone believing this bs. Those girls (well Kandi and Tiny) already said they don’t see themselves moving forward with her. And every time she gets confronted she grabs her bag and head for the door. I hope they let her keep walking.
Tocha and her husband has spent all the $$$
This show, shows the real side of entertainment business. Imagine all the new artist learning something new watching this.
this is exactly why i’m in full support of artists being involved in the business side of their talent. People wanted to leave the negotiations between swv management & xscape mgmt but Xscape already knew shady sh!t goes down if they not involved. Now you can see why xscape members comfortable talking business for themselves and know their monetary value.
I love how blunt Kandi was and the way she communicated how she felt about the situation in a cool professional manner. Right is right and wrong is wrong husband or no husband.
Tamika is fed up up! She is tired. My heart goes out to her. She loves her sister and has no problem being the little sister and going with the flow through the good and bad until now. Proud of her strength to stand on her own! She is finally FREE!
I don’t see how everyone do not realize Latocha is ganged up on. Her sister told Kandi about the alleged text messages but did not call and tell Tocha first. Weird, but you making it seem like Tocha always doing something. My opinion is Tamika was mad about her sister doing the gospel album without her, so she is doing what she can to sabotage her. Now you taking her role in the group, girl please.
@@mem4 People like you are dangerous. Everybody knows Tamika has been having Latocha 's back all these years. The show is showing her growth FROM that. I'm glad the public can see what Tamika has been going through having Latocha back! She is a mess
All THAT BLA BLA BLA 🎪🤡I HAVE SERVAL SIBLINGS N WORK WITH U RIGHT 🙏🏾GOOD U WRONG N STEEL U OUTTT N SEE U ON THANKSGIVING N SO ON BUSINESS IS DONE ✅ IN MY LOUD JAMAICAN VOICE🎤🎤🎤🎤👮🏻♂️💰👮🏻♂️👮🏻♂️n SUE AFTER 👍🏾THATS WHY LAT DID IT CUZ THEY WERE WEEK N SMALL 🤔If they had been like monique and queen Latifah she would have never ever tried it because they wouldn’t let her have it including the husband
@@mem4 you are really slow because they are a group not solo so when it comes down to somebody cashing in money off of them they all all involved not oh let me tell one person and then tell somebody else that a group 5,000,000,000 times a group a group a group and that solo docile album is going to go nowhere open relationship and a thief will not sell GOSPEL 👎🏾👎🏾😡
@@mem4 remember she doesn’t have her sister’s number, only Tiny
Every time there are receipts and proof, Tocha and Rocky still lie and deny that these happen. This is just crazy. Just look at the themes when it comes to Tocha and this man.
Tameka isn't playing!!!
Never let your husband manage your career.
That then makes him your employee.
In time it turns into him pimping you.
Yep Mary j has to pay her ex husband a lot of money
Monique is the same way with her husband.
Yeah this type of arrangement never works out!
@@sagba9473 Not anymore. That was temporary spousal support
Don't forget about Wendy Williams
Can I say I love Tameka Scott relationship with her daughters...it speaks volumes I'm so here fore her coming to the for front and doing what's best for her and her family❤
Tamika was right when she called Rocky and Bullwinkle “simple” in her video. Their defense is that he wasn’t getting kickbacks just extra money on the side without the group’s knowledge because he was “owed” it 🥴 Like do they understand the definition of a kickback???
The way Tocha and Rocky lie so freely…are they well?!?!
Exactly! He thinks his wife is better than the group so in his eyes they are entitled to the money.He is a snake not to be trusted
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drugs baby 😢
This
@@iBOXRIVER gotta be
Rocky n Tocha will drive a sane person insane with the lies of proof in their face😢😢
That’s what narcissists do. They will look you in the eyes with a straight face and tell you that the evidence isn’t really evidence and that anything they did was to help you so you should be thanking them instead of calling them out for their bs. They’re toxic and draining.
Gaslighting narcissists & LaTocha ain't gonna say a thing 'cause she's in on it
@@shawnpreston1639 Yup, being around narcissists will have you questioning your own reality, draining AF.
Yesssss😂
There is NO way this show can end without a reunion
We need a season 2.
Right
right like we have questions that need answers!!!
But it Will end without one 😫lol I sooooo want one though especially as I want the SWV girls to respond to what Kandi has been saying on speak on it and to face the truth that as amazing as they are and the records they have sold. They have indeed toured too much and thus put themselves in a box of being payed less in the USA to tour etc and of course I want Jive Turkey bivens aka Rocky and Tocha to answer for all the BS fro the season.
Idk it might really ended on a bad note frfr hands probably will almost being thrown lol😂
"Hol on everyone's gonna get a copy, we bout to have a bizness meetin."
Tameka wasn't playing
Tamika and these receipts, I live for it! 🤣
AND that long pause says it all! 😌
Tamika became the queen of receipts with this show, i love it 😂😂🤣
This show has been so entertaining. There should be a special episode with all the secrets that didn't air.
Yes!!! We definitely need a secrets revealed episode
Maybe it's for the better that some things stay unaired. What came out on this is enough tea to last for a while. I would love a season two...a reunion at bare minimum.
We also need a second season, but without SWV
Definitely. They ladies have said so much happened they didnt air
Need to do a reunion
Latocha needs to choose between denying an allegation or justifying it!! Cuz she keeps trying to do both and it can’t be both. This is like the 3rd time they jump between the two. Like, commit to a direction for the lie damn it!!
Very Well Said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Girl!
Not the direction for the lie😆🤧😭😭😭
I'm saying 😂
Fr you can’t deny something happened. And then JUSTIFY why it happened. It doesn’t make any sense.
Rocky even looks like a wolf in wolf’s clothing. I would see him coming a mile away, don’t know how others couldn’t. Doesn’t seem too bright either
He's brite enough to pimp Toscha!😅😂
Seems like everyone can see him for exactly who he is except for Tocha. Either she don't see it cause she's far too gone OR she sees and pretends not to for her own good (if you know what i mean).
That Rocky character is very shady and creepy.
@@thelookbyla Very much that, she has a nasty spirit too.
Remember when Tamika said they gotta be the “simplest criminals” on her channel. 😂.
See how the first person Tocha calls about this after is her mom?! She was definitely trying to get her to side with her before Tamika got to her. They needa leave her out completely
I feel like she called her first because it already shows that they have that kind of tag team toxic bond. She's definitely her Mom's favorite and she knows it. I feel horrible for Tamika.
She automatically defended him without looking, or hearing what’s going on and if a person will lie and steal they will kill and if everyone is picking on poor little Rocky and Latocha and his attitude is saying he’s lying just like Tocha’s attitude and he’s going to be her main, biggest downfall just as he’s always been and Tocha is so blindsided that she believes everything he says and in the end Tocha is going to be looking so stupid and I hope that happens soon. Her head is so far up his behind that she can’t even breathe. Just dumb and stupid. I’ll never be weak for a man when he’s doing wrong. I’ll have my husband’s back but I’m not going to cover for nobody when they’re lying, cheating, stealing, etc and Rocky and Tocha are toxic and dangerous
Cause she knew she got that money
LOL LaTocha got Rocky on the phone to say a whole lot of NOTHING. Dude just talks in circles.🤣🤣🤣🤣
She said, “hold on, everybody’s getting a copy of this. We’re having a business meeting”. Helloooo!
I said yes honey BS all aside 🎉
😂😂😂😂😂
Let's call a spade a spade. This is not just Rocky doing shady deals. Latocha seems to be in on those deals as well which means that she IS doing shady deals. I wish the best for them all but her immediate denial shows that she was in on it. Otherwise she would have contacted Rocky accusing him as well. She was in on it all along.
I think the mom is in on it too.
@@questionresearch8721 Sadly enough, I kinda think so too.
I don’t believe she has ever cared about any of them Tamika including because since she decided to leave the group and go solo she’s been using the hell out of them all at one point or another. She need a real come to Jesus moment 🤦🏽♀️
Hell yeah. That text said she was in on it and that he showed her the money. Plus, she had to have been in on it in order to get Kandi back in the group. She did that! And she don’t even like Kandi. That’s how I know she was part of the scheme.
FACTS!!!
This is gaslighting on a insane level! Tosha and Rocky are LITERALLY pretending the texts messages don’t display him cutting side deals ….. when they clearly show he’s been cutting side deals! Folks, now this is the true definition of playing in people’s face. OMG!
Show Biz is something else, I learned so much about the inner workings of this profession while watching this series. Thanks to both groups for letting us in. Their performances were great 👏👌💕
That nervous twitch at the end Rocky gave meant he knew he was busted.
ok, and how he was just staring at her instead of talking directly to the camera.
@@nme.00104 right, it's as if she said something wrong and he had to sternly correct her🥴😳
@@shesit318 noticed it too, even when she was on the phone with him. saying, not to speak for him etc. believe he was really saying don't speak at all, you can't lie correct.
It was the stutter for me 😂😅 dead giveaway
For having coke or....lol🤣
Rocky is coked out. That man is dangerous
I was thinking the same thing
I saw that twitch too!! It’s all in his eyes too!
I’ve been saying this day 1!!!!!!! He’s a liar,manipulating,narcissistic coke head! And she knows it!!!!
Yep twitching like crazy
Real scaryyyy, a man like him is evil.
Ladies, being single is better then being controlled by a loser.
Say that again!!!
Or a demonic demon who is 🌈
When she said “Ain’t nobody been getting no kick back” that’s exactly what her momma said to Tamika. “Ain’t nobody stole your money Tamika” Baby she get her lying honest. 🤷🏾♀️
They need a reunion! ITS TOO MUCH ON THE TABLE! REUNION OR A SEASON TWO !
They need a full season of this show most definitely
The mess that happened with her and her sister was kind’ve a blessing because before Tamika would always be basically a YES MAN to tocha and her bullshit. But since this happened Tamika has become more independent and stands up to tocha👏🏽👏🏽
Tamika is a businesswoman now. She’s a business woman with a man and kids like the other ladies. She’s making sure she gets all her coins.
Yes
She’s tired of people steeling her money, and it’s family.
Rocky is a scammer. This is giving me Mo'nique/Sydney, Wendy Williams/Kevin Hunter vibes.
IKE & Tina
I truly agree with you 💯.
Don't forget Mary J., when she was married to Kendu
I don’t recall Mo’nique’s husband being a scammer
Okay okay okay SPEAK ON IT
Absolutely when it comes to the 4 of them all money needs to be on the table! Rocky knew exactly what he was doing right down to Tocha taking majority of the heat.
That nod from Kandi at 0:08 makes me 😂😂😂 every time I see it!
"We bout to have a business meeting..." 😅😂🤣
What Tocha mean her family falling apart and everybody wanna make some money, when her and her husband the ones stealing the money 🤦🏽♀️
Absolutely 😳😳😳😳
😂😂😂 who knows what she meant. She probably didn’t mean to say that in front of the cameras.
Right! I was so confused
I think she was talking bout her sister. Tameka use to blindly support her and her loyalty wouldn’t let her see the truth from false. She believed everything her big sis said . Now she exactly who she is so that hold she had in her is gone forever.
@@hikama.3318 a month after this show with swv xscape was honor with the lady of souls award the mistress spoke out saying she was pregnant that same week in the mist of the dress drama I think tosha and rocky knew about her supposed to be pregnant before it hit the internet so I think she’s talking about that when she says her family is falling apart
Seems like Rocky dipping in that powder too 👀 Tocha and her husband knew what’s been going on their face and body language told everything. It was like seeing a deer in headlights
Yeah and he snorting powder too
I was thinking the same thing! Heavy on the booga sugahhh vibes 🤦🏾♀️😫😭
Girl I thought it was just me getting that vibe. Like his mannerisms weird asf
@@cfhar080591 the OP said "dipping in that powder"
@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona Dipping/snorting/sniffing YEP
Watching that confessional I see that Tocha can’t do anything about Rocky! She’s a bully in the group and to her sister because she’s bullied at home. She learned it from him & Her blind loyalty is the price she pays for the lessons. Hopefully when she sees herself on tv she’ll be ashamed enough to get her shit together and know she’s not smarter than anyone and she ain’t manipulating NOTHING! They see you Tocha and they’re letting you embarrass yourself.
No, they see each other in my Kandi voice
From the way it sounds,
Tasha
seems to have always been the same with or without Tocky.
She married her equal.
@@GoldenGraham25Yeppp!
I once knew of a police woman who bullied in the streets but at home she was getting beat up on by her unemployed man.
@@GoldenGraham25 THATS IT!!!!
Whew! This show has been the gift that keeps on giving! Even though it's a limited series, with so much drama and so many unresolved real time questions- a reunion would have been perfectly in order for this.
Tamika stays with a folder full of creative ideas or full of receipts and I'm here for it!
I noticed that too and I really appreciate it that! Like she really cares, and she has some really good ideas
He found a complete fool. You can't tell these females about their mates. That's a lot of their decision to stay in these toxic relationships/marriages. They will willingly lose family, friends, jobs to stand by their man.
Hopefully she take a slice of humble pie
Ain’t nothing wrong with standing by a good man, but if you choose to stand by the wrong one he can bring your entire world down to point where you don’t even have a ground to stand on. Look at LaTocha.👀
@@shawnpreston1639Standing by your man has neverrr went well.
Tocha is not a fool she is being manipulated and controlled by Rocky. That doesn’t make you a fool.
@@moneymaker3208 She’s a complete fool and she is a weak woman
If “ that’s my man imma stick beside him “ was a couple it’s Tocha & Rockhead. Goodness gracious 🤥😒
😂😂😂 not rockhead
@@vaughn1993 🤣😂 I thought it was perfect 😂
😂😂 My homegirl said the same thing.
Rockhead😂😂 now that's a good one eww I hate when she walks away from the truth just guilty smh
The crackhead tick, Rocky lying as did @4:07 😂
The crackhead tick 😂😂😂
I’m crying 😭 😭😭😭 literally in tears cuz what was the tick for?😂😂 that’s a dead giveaway…he’s guilty as all hell
Chile, super creepy. I kept playing it back like wtf am I watching. He’s giving booger sugar vibes.
That one
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wait hold on we bout to have a business meeting, tamika is funnyyyyy
Tiny is such a sweetheart but you can tell she says how she really feel to Kandi in secret because of the way they always look at each other when stuff be hitting the fan 😅😂
Rocky saying "This ain't stealin'" was the grimiest shit I've ever seen. He is a snake if I've ever seen one
how was it grimy?
@@mariahwhitneycelinejanetmadona Tiny said that any and all money should be brought to the table so that everyone knows. If what Rocky is doing isn't grimy, why don't the other women know about it/why isn't in the contract? He admmitted to doing it, just didn't like that it was called stealing.
ok, say it again. a whole wolf in sheep's clothing. talking crazy that no deposits were made into his account. believe he set up the account under her name if they ever get sued etc it will all fall on her.
@@ak-xp4hp right, all of his crazy talk. he probably stole her advance from her gospel c. d.
Rocky seems high in the confessional. And he’s clearly abusive. Tocha’s not innocent but I hope she’s able to get away from him before it’s too late.
you pegged the abusive part for real
agree, and his tone when she was on the phone with him with the other women. you could see they were all very uncomfortable with how he was talking to them and her.
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So much for a successful Gospel album. The label will never earn their investment money back from this release.
The email acknowledges Tocha's knowledge of the kickback. Also, she did get Kandi to return to the group. In he r apology tour Tocha stated she knows everything Rocky does. More importantly, isn't this why Tocha didn't want to work with that particular promoter for threatening Rocky,? Tocha can't deny these allegations!
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You hit every darn point! Since she knows every darn thing her husband does then take this L with him too. And it all makes sense because Tiny and Tameka said they were fine not having Kandi. Out of all people, LaTocha wanted Kandi back. That should of been a red flag right there! 🚩
Oooohhh both of you (Shawn & OP) are making good points! She wanted Kandi back to use her, get what she needs, and then bounce from the group in hopes of getting this whack solo dream that will never work for her. It actually has Rocky written all over it, because it’s a scammer move.
Only thing is, the two little scammers didn’t estimate the power of public opinion. This show was supposed to be free promo for the gospel deal, but it’s now just a nation-wide Tocha hate train casting call. Definitely interested to see the numbers from this album release.
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I Agree. I think the release was yesterday on Good Friday.
I think they blew up the whole “ threatening rocky “ thing to deflect from the REASON why he probably threatened rocky.
@@ambermarie8027 not the “Tocha hate train casting call” 😂.
that’s actually fairly accurate, as she started acting like a victim, saying all this is happening because she just wants to sing solo 🙄. instead of taking accountability for her & her husband actions.
Rocky: I have never talked about Xscape at all
Also Rocky: I did the deal so it wasn't a kickback
Me: so words don't mean things now...you did a deal for Xscape without talking about Xscape?
Right, legally you have to be transparent about that. The ideal of him getting paid for a deal he bring to them is not wrong, not knowing that he got paid is the issue.
MAAAAAAN, I DON'T THINK LIFE WILL EVER GET ANOTHER EXPLOSIVE, ENTERTAINING, ENGAGING SHOW LIKE SWV & XSCAPE: THE QUEENS OF R&B! IT REALLY SHOULD'VE BEEN CALLED XSCAPE: MY LITTLE SECRET! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“That’s how iPhone text look “ 😂😂😂😂
That part 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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That part was funny! Kandi is hilarious.
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Tocha's bitter that the other girls eclipsed her decades ago.
The Take Down of Rocky is in Full Effect & I’m Here For it!! Any dude who worked closely to R Kelly for all those years is Clearly low down & SHADY! Tocha knows she knew bout those Kickbacks they SPLIT the money!! SMH
Facts. Tameka was right Rocky and Tocha stole her money.
Yes I'm waiting for it he definitely needs to be sued and go to jail
Nah he took that money to the side chick 😂
In 2017 when Kandi was hesitant to reunite, people said Kandi was being unforgiving. And here...all this time later...Toscha STILL doing the same thing. Using her fame from Xscape to go solo. Its not a good look.
"He don't never want you to say nothing! He talk for you all the time that's why you in this predicament."
DAMN TAMEKA! She called it alllllllllllll the way out right in front of Tocha face.
Didn't Latocha said during her IG live that she knows "everything"
So in other words Tameka was telling the truth
That part!
Mic drop!
And did
I kept saying, Tocha is going to eat those words and regret it.
Idk if I believe that latocha is being taken advantage of by rocky and she oblivious, I more so feel like she’s aware and involved in all the schemes going on
I BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG THAT HE IS BRAINWASHING HER🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️I MEAN SHE CANT EVEN SPEAK FOR HERSELF…
He learned from R Kelly. Can’t trust anyone that came out of his camp. 😒 The fact that Rocky was at the Aaliyah R Kelly wedding is enough for me to know he is a snake. Tocha is in deep. 😞
He aint brainwashing her. She is the mastermind behind all of it...he just has the dirty hands so she can act stupid. She knew what he was doing, if she didnt...she wouldnt have been able to contain her shock n fury.
😂Her and her husband are like Wyl E Coyote...they dont learn.
Tocha's confused face be taking me out!!🤣🤣
To add more context. Kandi & Tiny got Covid when Rocky agreed to the show for this deal so all 4 girls didn’t make it. The promoter got pissed & wanted his money back. Which later led to threats against each other. Then Rocky & LaTocha started to bash promoters name in the industry, hence why promoter shows text messages to remaining girls when it was time to get more shows.
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He’s so simple. He admitted that he gets paid off of “deals”. No integrity whatsoever. I wouldn’t want to do business with Tocha or Rocky. They only about themselves.
She basically was saying he was getting kick backs…. When she was trying to explain percentages for shows
I bet she ain’t tell the girls that to their face. She know they would have said that they never agreed to that.
She knows hes taking
the money because she's helping him spend it 😂😂
Exactly. Those blonde wig’s ain’t cheap - except her mama’s cheap wigs with the freeze curls.
ok, say it again. the bmw, house, clothes, makeup etc.
@@shawnpreston1639 please log off 😭😭🤣😂😅✋🚫🛑 the ones at the beauty shop for 50% off.
Sometimes family will cut you worse then a stranger and Tamika ain’t having it no mo
We went to this show and it was amazing Ladies!!!!! The flow was great. the stage presence of both groups!!! Of course the voices were Wonderful!!! Yeah, it is still a favorite concert for me and husband.
The way Rocky lips jumpin, he been bumpin back more than kickin back....I know booga-suga lips when I see em! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂 I’m hollen
Now sis 😂😂😂😂😂
@@vaughn1993 you know it's true🤣🤣🤣
Kandi looks great here! Love the hair and makeup. Looks like she's wearing that Fenty Red❤
I know I just kept looking at her. Her look is simple but on point : nails, makeup, fit, ponytail... She looks gorge. Are you sure it's the Fenty Red lipstick? Cause if it is I'm getting it ASAP. The only thing is it transfers a bit when you swipe it.
@@MaishaOnTop I actually have no idea lol. I just said it looks like it :)
It wasn't a secret....they just finally got concrete proof of him doing it.
With banking details of wire transfers 🤧‼️
@@divinebeauty2070 They were able to get away with it back in the day when mfers were sliding cash around....but these days it's all Zelle/CashApp/Venmo/bank transfers and you can track that shit.....
I just dont understand how Latocha and her husband was ok with going on this Show looking Crazy like this.
that’s what i’ve been telling my sister. at this point, i believe they both either have a mental disorder or they’re both on drugs or possibly both.
The circus these 2 been involved in real time makes them look even more crazy. 🤦🏾♀️
"If somebody paying me they owe me. That means I did the deal." 👀 This is literally a kickback, sir 😂🤣
He is so full of rage... I literally had to scroll back to see if I saw the darkness in his eyes during that confessional interview. The question is, years from now will the public give her grace when she announce her escape from him?? She's stuck in a predicament now where if she leaves him, she will be legally held liable to any wrongdoings as he would.
Man she better go in witness protection cause she is not safe. And he talking about federal cases and such. She better make a deal with the feds to role on him. Who knows what kinda mess he’s gotten her into. He could very well be being investigated as we speak on drug charges or something cause he sure act like he tweeking in that confessional 🤦🏽♀️
@@hikama.3318 And on the morning show with dabrat he damn sure did!!!!!!!!!!I thought I was tripping js that's why he kept turning from the camera 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂bruh smh
@@hikama.3318 right, if she turns as state evidence now, maybe she'll have luck. Right now it just seems like no one can tell her anything.
Tocha trying her HARDEST to double down and act oblivious, while Tameka & Kandi are chewing her up w/ printed text messages and phone numbers baffles me.
IMHO, the tone of the text message sounds very generic. I think it's some foolery, being pulled by the producers, in order to stir up more drama. Kandi, Tamika and Tiny's body languages seem to suggest that they know this is some industry game being played. All 3 of them are looking at Tocha like, "Girl, just play along."...But she ain't going.
Pure manipulation.
@@sistersophya6456 So much for “going back to delete these comments”. 😑
@@TheAshesArt 🤣 I had time the day I was copying and pasting this comment everywhere.
It ain't that crucial.
Them comments gonna be there til Kingdom come.
I feel Rocky has taken the sister’s money with another woman. That’s why people don’t need their husbands as their manager. She believes everything . She will be hurt like Wendy and other celebrities who don’t think their mate can do anything wrong!
If he is just LaTocha’s manager then it any business deal, should involve only her. Now, if it involves Xscape then all of Xscape should know what’s going on. These women have been in the business for far too long to just accept the okey doke. Who’s the manager of the group?
She knows exactly what her husband been doing because she co-signed it. I'm proud of her sister for standing up and not continuing to let her sister and her husband take advantage of her and the group. Her sister going to follow her husband straight to lawsuits 💯.
I honestly believe that she doesn’t know and foolishly co-signs for him out of her love for him. They’ve been married for over 20 yrs and he got her mind gone! I don’t believe that he told or showed her nothing and if he did it was in a manipulative way.
3:57 she just agreed that they are getting money off the top
Right, what Tiny said, bottom line, all monies should be on the table if it's about the group period pooh 😉
5:45 Jalen (Coko’s son)
“Just keep your hands 👊🏾👊🏾 to yourself.” 🙏🏽🤷🏽♂️ Coko: “Yeah🧘🏽♀️, cuz I wanna keep my TSA ✈️🎫 Precheck.” 😅😂🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love her!!
Latocha had that same face when kandi said that she was trying to go solo and that’s what broke up the group!!! She never admits anything , her husband is the problem. Always has been
It's a shame that Rocky is doing all of them like that. He is gaslighting them all, especially his own wife. He plays on Tocha's insecurities. By the look on Tocha's face, she may be afraid of him. So the ladies may not be aware of just how precarious her situation is with him. He comes off as another Ike Turner and Kirk Frost. Needless to say, nothing against Tocha personally, but they all could benefit from a new promoter.
Tamika said, we about to have a business meeting 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What's getting me about Latosha is that she made a video saying that she knows everything about her husband and they talk about everything, but when she is confronted with receipts she doesn't know anything. Please make it make sense. 😅😅😂
Oh it makes sense. She is a bold face liar.
lol facts 😂😂😂
She's in denial 😅
LaTocha and Coko will be on WWHL on Sunday. I can’t wait to see what she has to say about all of this 🤦🏽♂️
I'm gonna assume it'll be an incoherent lie that makes no sense... Because that's all we've been getting
@@jasminee1357 , 😂😂😂right on
They should be a group called SAS / Stank Attitude Sisters
@@prosperity1715 yes they both cut from the shame cloth smh
They’re 2 of a kind crew. Coko sees herself in Tocha. Bcuz they’re BOTH rude, nasty & entitled!
Baby I’m loving tamika with this folder full of receipts. Baby just call her a cash register because she stay serving the girls with receipts.😂
rocky giving real crackhead vibes with the lip smacking & twitching 😂😂😂
Rocky looks like a stunt double from Pose in that confessional. Rocky is so SASSY! 😂
"This ain't stilling!" **crvck head shoulder twitch** 😂