Nanny West Gets Her Comeuppance | Downton Abbey
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025
- Nanny West learns an important lesson - never mess with Thomas Barrow!
Clip from Season 4, Episode 1 - Following Matthew’s untimely death, new mother Mary is struggling to come to terms with her loss. Robert and Violet disagree on how to bring her through it.
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3:40 Lady Grantham rips the nanny apart and destroys her in such a calm manner 😂
Class does not need volume.
@trenae77 indeed, a low controlled tone works everytime 😊
If that was me, I'd rage. Lady Grantham has so much composure. Something I'll never have.
She reminds me so much of my late mama.
That’s the thing with formal English, a Brit can be insulting you with every name in the book and still sound polite about it
I think Cora was particularly upset because that was Sybil’s child being abused. The family is shown to be quite attached to Sybbie in particular because they see her as the most precious piece of Sybil that she left behind. Out of the three Crawley sisters, Sybil was the kindest and most lovable, with a light inside her that drew everyone in. To the family, Sybbie is Sybil’s last gift to them, so they cherish her just a little more than the other children.
Cora defends her babies and grand-babies. She has class where Nanny West didn't. And anyone abusing Sybbie was a particular sore spot for Cora
Sybil was Cora’s favourite, Mary was Robert’s and Edith was Rosamund’s
Not to mention Sybil died in childbirth. She died of eclampsia. Having Sybbie was literally the last thing she did in the world. She never got to be a mother to her baby and raise her with Tom. So they love her extra because they know how excellent a moth Sybil would have been. Plus the family LOVE Tom. They know how much he loved Sybil and want his and Sybil’s daughter treated with the utmost respect and love.
You mean Cora was upset because her own grandchild was being abused?!? How observant you are!!!!!
@validie91285 what I meant was, she was just a little more upset about Sybil’s child being abused than she would have been about Mary’s, because she was just a little bit fonder of Sybil than she was of Mary or Edith. And with Sybil gone, Cora is just a little bit fonder of her child than the other grandkids because Sybbie is the most precious piece of Sybil.
“Crossbreed” not only refers to the difference in the class and status between Tom and Sybil. It points to the fact that Tom is Irish. Anti-Irish discrimination had been going on in Britain for centuries
Also bc she's half catholic and half protestant.
There was anti-Irish here in the US, with signs "No Irish should apply."
I am glad Thomas told on her!
The Irish get it from all sides lol. It boggles the mind!
All races get attacked it is not just the British against the Irish remember the IRA.
Thomas wasn't a saint or the kindest person on the show but in this matter, he did the right thing as he did show throughout the series that he cared about the children plus Nanny West was being negligent towards both children and she was being a complete bully to sweet little Sybbie.
He only wanted to cause trouble. Nanny West being being an actual monster was 100% luck on his part.
Thomas was an interesting character. Very realistic actually because he wasn't all bad or all good he was just a person. Usually pretty selfish and looked out for himself but still had people in his life he cared deeply about.
I was happy Thomas got to be the one that made Cora aware of that horrific nanny.
He felt an obligation, and affection toward Sybbie because Sybil was a friend to him.
Sybil and he developed a real friendship when the War was going on. She talked with him, and respected his service. (Even though she didn’t know what he had done to get out of it.)
And, remember, he was good with George, Mary’s son, too.
George asked for horseback rides and got them.
Thomas was a complex character. But he had a good ending in the series.
@@MandieTerrier He appreciated children because they had not yet been taught to hate.
@@MandieTerrier No, he saw her being an arrogant tosser and wanted to make sure that she didn't think that her being a nanny gave her any sense of actual authority.
He made the point of reminding her that she's a member of the staff as well.
The ONE THING I can actually respect Thomas Barrow for. He protected the children from this horrible woman.
I was thinking the same thing. One of the very few times he managed to show the good side of him.
Yes, but really just Sybbie because Nanny was a classist snob.
Thomas was quite fond of Sybil, and he knows she doesn’t treat Sybil’s daughter properly, so he also protects the girl in Sybil’s memory.
I always felt like he just needed a friend.
He had an alterer motive, it was not so much about protecting the kids but more about getting her out as she thought she was above him and he couldn’t have that
Imagine what she must have felt when she heard that, especially after she saw her beautiful young daughter dying giving birth to this lovely little girl. She did well throwing her out that nanny was mistreating the child and not feeding her properly.
Wasn't Sybil her sister?
@@christineparry4662Sybil was her daughter.
@@thesimslover82884 thanks for confirming that! I was mistaken.
@@thesimslover82884 I mixed Cora and Mary up.
I like how in the beginning the nanny tells Thomas not to touch the children but at the end Cora tells the nanny not to touch the children
Truly great full circle moment LOL!!!
@@dreamsteddybearsmaster I don’t really watch the show only clips of RUclips but I’m surprised Cora even let Nanny stay the night I would have told her LEAVE NOW !
@@kellymcfalls1458……me, too, bc what she was doing in neglecting the children, & not letting Sybbie have a full meal, with egg, was an immediate sacking offence………
Sybil always showed compassion and was very friendly with the staff, seeing them as actual people to be treated equal, not lower class citizens. Thomas loved that about her and became extra close with her daughter when she died 😢
Well there was the scene when she tricked Branson into going to the political rally, even though she knew Tom would be in trouble if anything happened, and when she later was knocked out, Robert almost fired him. But yes, for the most part Sybil cared about the staff.
That's what's fascinating about the "upstairs downstairs" shows. A (good) director always points that even the staff had a proclivity of heavy social, and racial biases which is a hypocrisy worth pointing out given their own social class identity. Truly fascinating.
Barrow is the most challenging character in all of Downton Abbey. Just when you can't stand the smug look on his face anymore he goes on and does something heroic. 😂
He does have a face that very often just screams "PUNCH ME!" doesn't he? Lol
Childhood trauma will do that to a person
I've been screamed at by military training instructors for weeks on end with little effect but Cora's quiet, dignified berating would leave me shaking with tears.
Yes, when Cora repeated "You are to fetch a maid and prepare a room!" the intensity was incredible. Something I have noticed with any character, when they act a certain way 99% of the time, those rare occasions when they wander into another territory are so much more impactful. I remember watching a series of skits that involved Darth Vader joking around and they were so off the charts funny because it was so outside of his expected character. Likewise here, Cora is so universally kind and giving throughout the series, those rare occasions when she is not are devastating. Remember that scene when she was asserting her authority over the operations at the house and letting Isabel know she was now free to find something (anything) else to do. It was ruthless! Its also why Barrow's ultimate redemption was so intense.
@@Robert08010 Spot on!
Honestly screaming works well with younger people as it tends to catch their attention but as an adult I just think it reveals a lack of faith in ones own authority. It's a bit pathetic.
Cora is pure Class at it's finest!
Such a great example of a strong American woman.
The only time Thomas ever gained my respect was the way he treated the children, especially after the soft spot he had for Sybil. Her death hit him hard and you could see he truly cares for the kids.
The kids are innocent, especially young Sybbie. Even Thomas could tell the difference
And, the children loved him.
He got better as the series went on. But he certainly did some bad things.
He loved Sybil like a member of his own family. Like a sister. The whole staff adored her in particular. Her horrible death really hurt them all, but it really hit Barrow especially because he wasn’t used to the kindness Sybil gave him.
@@allshookup1640 But that was the great part about it, he had a very long story arc and his character changed bit by bit.
@@deanooooooo6496 Absolutely. Last season Barrow wouldn’t recognize season one Barrow. He changed so much and mostly for the better.
Cora was especially angry over the "crossbreed" comment because she herself is half-Jewish, during an era when that carried more than a little social stigma in both her native U.S. and in the U.K. There was just no chance that Nanny West was going to talk her way out of addressing Cora's granddaughter like that within the countess's hearing. In this case, Barrow wasn't even being petty or mean. Nanny West really did have the potential to become an abuser.
What exactly made baby sybil a supposed "crossbreed" I don't understand it.
@@freedomwriter1995 i think it had to do with the fact Sybie was a child of a Nobel lady that being Sybil and a Working lower class man that being Branson cause in this time period such a marriage between two opposite sides of the social classes was considered blasphemy, so that's why nanny west called her a "crossbreed" cause she was a child of a Nobel woman and Working class man
@@freedomwriter1995 - Her husband Tom was an Irishman. Which many of the more bigoted English such as Nanny West considered to be practically subhuman.
@@daniels7907 an Irish Republican and chauffeur to boot! He was staff, and his relationship with Lady Sybil crossed the great divide of class.
@@Zero-fo3rq Plus Branson was Irish Catholic while Sybil would've been C of E.
At the heart of all Barrows flaws was a proud man who was desperately lonely and who wished acceptance, the children were innocent of any pre-conceived notions and simply responded to love and care which were things Barrow could give without fear of rejection and I think he wanted to protect them as he had never been.
Thomas was a character that grew and changed and learned as did Mary. They were both multi-dimensional characters. And Thomas turned out to be a hero and a decent man who had been terribly hurt in his life. We watched him grow into that. Mary went from being a cold, mean, girl to a compassionate, giving person who helped the sister she had always treated so badly. Excellent characters and in the end we cheer for both of them. Great actors to do such a great job portraying this
Someone mentioned before that Sybbie will probably have the same bond with Thomas as Mary did with Mr. Carson
I think Thomas respected Sybill for her kindness and her efforts during the war. For all his faults he protected her child.
Her ladyship’s quiet, dignified fury is outstanding ❤❤❤ Never even had to raise her voice. Would’ve scared the babies. I hope Sybbie forgets her completely or at least remembers grandmama coming to her rescue.
At that young of an age I doubt she would remember in a month or so. The earliest real memories a lot of children have is around four years. I may have a membory that dated before that, but Sibbie wasn't even three, was she?
They'll be fine; they're mini actors lol
@@deniseeulert2503 I have some memories from before I was 4. I also remember some feelings rather than memories of actual events from when I was really young.
@@deniseeulert2503 That may be true of many but some of us remember down to 2 years old. For instance, I can remember being small enough to be bathed in a kitchen sink. And I have many strong memories from when I was 3 because I remember moving out of my old house and into my new home and my first time seeing the rooms empty.
Sybbie was young enough that the memory would be vague at best, since her grandmother fired the offending nanny before this had gone on too long, and Sybbie (and George) probably never saw or heard her ever again. The memory would get buried by her later experiences. It would have been different if Nanny West had remained with the household or in the village to trigger the memory. There is an advantage when the abuser is a servant who can be permanently dismissed, as opposed to some relative or other person who would still be around at least some of the time.
This is what made Downton Abbey so successful: the characters are not one-dimensional but rather complex. Thomas is a jealous, mischievous and egoistic person. But during the show his behavior gets explained to an extend. Also, no matter his bad sides, he really adores the children. I think, deep in hin heart Thomas is a kind and caring person. In another time he would have been a kindergardener and could have lived with a kind man on his side. Thomas was just born in the wrong time and I love how the show displayed the hardship and loneliness that gay people suffered back then.
Also, Nanny West was horrible and deserved even more consequences than she got.
She wasn't just fired, though. She was sacked without references, which would have been a death sentence for her career. She'll be lucky if she can get a job waiting tables in some seedy, run-down pub, and in all likelihood will wind up in the poorhouse before long.
@@matthewhelland9258 only if she was there for a significant amount of time, if not she could just pretend she was unemployed and still looking during the time she was at Downton. Not shown in this video, but when Cora tells Robert that Nanny West has been sacked he says “oh not another one” so they went through at least a couple of Nannies since Sybbie was born. She could have only been there for a couple of months.
Let's be honest about what happened here. Thomas didn't go to Lady Grantham and LIE about the children being neglected because of the children. He had no idea what was actually happening. What he did do is what Thomas always does...vindictively attempt to destroy someone else's life and career over bruised ego. This time it worked in the children's favor but it was not born from chivalry or charity.
@@saquist Except he didn't lie at all. She literally told him that she was leaving the children on their own when she asked him to relay the message about the egg, which is a major red flag in children of that age. Plus, she was isolating and witholding food from Sibby right in front of him. I'm sure he at least partly did it to spite Nanny West, but he had every reason to suspect that she was mistreating the children.
@@matthewhelland9258 because he wouldn't assist the nanny. She was annoyed she had to leave. And Thomas would have told Grantham she was depriving a child of food so he didn't believe that. It wasn't neglect but he made it sound that way. That's what Thomas does. Deception is a lie if you're purposely misleading the severity of the action.
Thomas is so sassy lol.
"As a matter of fact, it does."
"Mr. Barrow to you."
"Ask her yourself, why don't you?"
"Can I help you?"
"Because I didn't feel like it."
"If you go down these stairs, you can tell her yourself."
When Thomas stops thinking and just acts on instinct, people end up saved: the children, Jimmy, Edith, etc. At heart, he is a hero. His pain just won’t let him show that in his words to others.
i didn't realize that--but you are spot on!
Thomas is one of the most interesting characters in the show, in the beginning he was selfish and everything a villian should be. But throughout the show he has become more of an anti hero but a very good one
I think Miss O’Brien was way more evil for reasons I don’t have to say. Thomas has his redemption though.
@@leahcimolrac1477 As I read your comment, I had the names of Mrs Hughes and Mrs O'Brien confused in my head and I thought "WHAT!?!? That woman is practically a saint!" And then I realized my mistake. LOL
At first I hated that the only gay character was such a bad guy. He was hugely protective of Sybbie and loved Little George though. Later it occurred to me that without excusing his often wretched behavior he was an unhappy closeted gay man at a time when that was the Only option for 99% of gay people. He lived in a time where homosexual conduct even among consenting adults was illegal pretty much worldwide. Such men were also, even if quietly tolerated by decent employers like Lord Grantham, under constant suspicion. Note the way his awkward attempts with friendship with the younger footmen are immediately suspected of merely being attempts to seduce them. His one previous "relationship" with the slimy duke was clearly dysfunctional and he just being used. It's not till late in the series he even gets to go to one of the very secretive gay clubs around then.
2:11 Good point Thomas. She is a member of staff, yet believes in her arrogance that being a nanny somehow puts her above the other staff as far as authority.
It was nice to see her brought down.
nanny weren;t classed as household servants, so she was quite right when she said, not in the same way. They had a slightly higher social standing in the hierarchy of the lower level servants but had no actual practical seniority over household staff. The Cook and Butler still were the senior members of staff. They could not tell her what to do, howevever, as they would those under them in the household.
@@mariahoulihan9483 Well then by that explanation, she couldn't give them orders either. So she tried to rise above her station and got put in her place.
@@theiran - Exactly. As I recall, the Nanny or Nurse formed an entirely separate branch of staff, possibly as head of one or more nursery maids. She was below the Housekeeper in rank, but not in Housekeeping's chain of command: like the Housekeeper, she reported directly to the lady of the house.
Let's not pretend that there's anything dignified about that social hierarchy, it was only designed to keep the working class down.
With no references!
When I first watched this episode, I had wondered if the nanny was unfairly biased against Thomas (because he's gay) and if she was just treating him worse as a result. As the episode went on, I realized how she was treating little Sybbie and I was glad that Thomas noticed her bad behavior enough to report it to Cora.
I still feel like he did the right thing but only by accident. He did it to get even with her, not to protect the children. And I'm not saying he wouldn't have called her out if he knew she was doing real harm, but based on what he knew, I don't think he had any justification to go to Cora and say what he said.
@@Robert08010
Not true at all. Thomas saw the nanny doing questionable things even before he went to Cora.
A) deprive Sybbie of contact (with him, and with Isobel, the grandmother).
B) heard the nanny calling George a little prince while barely acknowledging Sybbie at all.
C) request that Sybbie can't have eggs with her tea (I'm assuming that means with her breakfast? lol idk). Which could inherently be depriving her of food and starving her too.
D) and then of course, there's the fact that the nanny is arrogant and superior and believes herself better than the other staff, which is a bad sign already tbh.
All of these reasons add up to why Thomas went to Cora. It wasn't just his own arrogance at all. After all, if you heard a nanny saying a child can't eat eggs for breakfast for no reason, and not seemingly ask for a different food instead, wouldn't you question why she's depriving the kid of food also?
@l.n.3372 tea would have been like supper for the children. In the UK the word is often still used to mean "early evening meal", and can include eggs, sausages, baked beans, as well as breads and cake-like things.
Basically the nanny was depriving the child of protein and presumably just giving her tea and toast because her father was not of the aristocracy. Class lines could be pretty rigid in the UK, really till well after WWII.
@@christinebutler7630
Thanks for the casual explanation for a non British person!
Tbh that's bad too but I had feared even worse (I thought it was no food at all. But don't get me wrong, depriving of protein/nutrients is very bad for a growing child).
@@l.n.3372 great examples and one more to add, she says she can’t tell Mrs. Patmore herself, as she’s going back up the stairs, because she doesn’t have time to tell her as she has to get back to the children, they are all alone. This is the final straw and he tells Cora.
Di Botcher is a super actress. She made Nanny West so intense and monstrous.
She is wonderful, agreed.
So true, she really sold that scene.
Great as that mean ole Nanny
The "What" always gets me at 0:16, lol
Only Barrow could take one word and make it so savage.
It is the 'OK Nanny West, it's war' moment
Barrow had always shown the little ones great affection. Little George played with him with no fear and Barrow loved it. He felt the same way for Sybie. He would protect them at all costs! He truely felt he was thier friend.
My new go to response: “Because I don’t feel like it!”🤨😂
Nanny: “Please don’t touch the children.”
Thomas: *“…what?”*
i love how Thomas stands up to Nanny West. The way he shows class is freaking amazing.
I looooved this scene!!! Cora is such a class act in this scene!
Cora did the right thing to fire her, no telling what she might do to the children, especially Sybie.
I love this. I only wish the story arc had been completed. Personally I would have included the scene where Lady Grantham expresses her gratitude to Thomas, both to him and Lord Grantham.
She did. At some point in the episode, she thanks Thomas in front of Robert and tells him that Nanny West was gone and he exclaims “another One”! Or something to that affect
There are 2 other videos uploaded with this scene included
Thomas wasn't reporting on the Nanny from any altruistic motive. She challenged his authority and that pissed him off, that's why he told Lady Cora. It was pure coincidence that Nanny turned out to be a child abuser.
Have you seen the fire scene and Thomas saving the daughter. When Cora praised him and called him brave he
I always felt Thomas had abuse in his childhood. He hinted problems with his father. If he was an abused child it would explain a lot of his personality
You have a point there.
"Because I didn't feel like it."
Cory always was honest that Tom was not the man she would’ve picked for Sybil. However that’s who Sybil picked and Cora respected that. She loved her granddaughter very much and would always protect her:
More importantly, the shows writer's created a complex character for Thomas. We watched him change over time and come to terms with who he was. He was heartbroken when Sylbe died. He cried, he knew she was a kind and good soul found so rare in the people who are in his life.
Saying she was having a game and joking with Miss Sybbie probably made it far worse.
It says that discrimination and abuse are all a game and a joke.
I’m not defending her actions, but what method of reasoning did you use to come to that conclusion
@@veqweic8797 To me, it's kind of similar to something like joking about slavery, racism, the Holocaust, etc.
Or maybe it's like someone saying something like, "Hey, you're a complete loser. Haha only joking."
I don't know if that makes sense. I'm not great at explaining things.
@@NebirosVT I get it. But you're misinterpreting her intentions then. When somebody makes those type of joke they find genuine humour in it. However, nanny west over here didn't say 'I'm joking' in that genuine manner becaude she was making an excuse, she was trying to defend herself. She didn't actually find any humour in calling sybbie a 'crossbreed'
What I wonder is, was this just a bad moment for Nanny West, where Sybie had woken the baby and the nanny was frustrated and said something she didn't really mean or was that really what she thought? The venom in her voice suggests she was expressing her actual opinion but I do wonder primarily because its out of character for Thomas to do the right thing for the right reason.
@@veqweic8797 The problem is that Nanny West wasn't playing or joking; she only said she was to protect herself, and I think it just made it worse.
Nanny West was a horrible woman.
On the walk and further, in the house, the nanny rather humiliated him, trying to demonstrate her superiority. The children were not harmed at that time. And after Tom's words, her true attitude towards children was revealed in the nursery.
She tried to starve Sibby, and I highly doubt that was the first time. She was absolutely harming her.
@@matthewhelland9258 : yes, I can not help but think that she did treat Sibbie poorly when no one was around. I feel that she was far more prejudiced against ‘mixed-breeds’, enough to deny her proper meals. It reminds me of how Queen Elizabeth II father was treated very poorly by his nanny - - it’s a large part of why he had a bad stutter!!!
Downton Abbey, I never grow tired of it, just a beautiful told story.
Have you seen "Guilded Age" by the same director. It's fabulous.
One of the single most satisfying moments in a series that's full of them.
Love that thumbnail, that’s the look when Mama Cora comes for you!
"Mr. Barrow to you."
❤❤❤
Thomas had his arrogant moments, and he was not afraid to speak his mind and manipulate. But he drew the line at the kids. He would throw hands at anyone who dared treat them badly
Every time I watch this scene, makes me smile and I love those scary green eyes of Thomas, Mr, Barrow to you 😂❤😂😂😂😂
Thomas does care, he has proved that, and he definitely cares about the children, especially Sybbie. The way he questions Nanny West as to why Sybbie didn't get an egg with her tea, you could tell he thought that was suspicious. Nanny West also talking to Barrow like he's below her is delusional, as well, she thinks she has more power over him and can order him around.
This always broke my heart! 💔💔 It breaks me to hear any one neglect or abuse a child!
My heart was pounding listening to Cora!! Go Mama Bear!!
I loved Downton so much! So many great moments, great writing & acting. Riveting.
Nanny west clip brought to the series but was not sure I'd stick it out. Seeing Bates privately crying in episode 1----completely won me over. Watched every episode and the 3 movies
I totally forgot about this. Mr. Barrow is an awesome character.
Lady Sybil's relationship with Barrow during the war is what saved him in my eyes. Then he stepped up here and was forever back in my good graces.
I must admit I never watched this tv series. I've always compared tv shows like this to the great 1970s Upstairs Downstairs, back in the days when we only had three tv channels, which I fondly remember as it was something we watched together as a family. That said, I gave this clip a shot as I have always enjoyed watching someone vituperative get their comeuppance, and it was played out beautifully.
I need more of this show in my life.
Thomas loves Master George but he's extra protective of his friend Sybil's daughter.
His ears immediately picked up on nanny west treating the children differently
Sybbie has less protection. George is the heir to the estate and has his aristocratic mother to protect him. Sybbie has only her mother's dowry and her working class father
@@MsJubjubbirdWhich old Lady Grantham corrected in the 2nd movie by leaving the french villa that was left to her by her old flame to Sybbie. Now all the Downton kids get relatively equal inheritances.
@@capture_diaries that was only at the very end though. before then she had not much
Never get tired of watching this episode.
James-Collier’s line reading of “… Wot?” here is brilliant.
Yeah LOL. Best line of the scene
I love Cora. And Mrs. Hughes being so thrown for a moment because Lady Grantham doesn't make people cry 😂
Will never ever forgive Nanny West for sending Isobel away when she wanted to visit her grandson. That alone would have been a reason to sack her😡
That's what makes this scene so satisfying. She can't send Cora away -- and, Cora sent HER away!
Thank you Shirley ❤
Thomas might be one of the most reprehensible characters, but even he has that moral creed of protecting children. I’m deeply thankful that he stepped up to protect them. Butler Thomas, protector of the small.
Trust Cora to come to the rescue, love her!!
Nanny West mistook her place as being on the same level as a governess, not a servant.
A governess, though she was paid to take care of and educate children, was always born into the upper class. She was usually a well educated gentleman's daughter, whose parents couldn't give her enough of an inheritance to live comfortably or to get married. So she makes her way by teaching other young ladies how to sing, draw, etc, and she acts as their chaperone. Despite this she was still a member of the upper class and would sometimes be like a member of the family. She wouldn't eat with the servants.
However a Nanny, is a nanny. Little more than a wetnurse.
Yes, she confused me with her "not in that way" response to Thomas' question about her being a member of staff. It's a either a "yes" or "no". She was a servant like the rest of them, not a governess. Unlike a governess, she was a caregiver for small children. And I'm sure she must've come from a poor background - not the middle or class, like most governesses. Governesses lived in a lonely world of being neither a servant, nor a member of the family. Nanny West seemed to think that because she worked "upstairs" often, it put her closer to the family in status.
In the victorian age a Governess, was a harsh positioning a way because they were not treated as Staff below stairs, and not treated as a member of the family above the Stairs. there place was only with the children, they ate alone in their room, It was a very solitary life, a life that many Young Girls couldn't take and they took there own lives. It is really sad
Nanny West was a bully, and bullies are always big babies in reality. When she's confronted, she cries like one
Cora has so much class! Even when outraged - she was still civil and have humanity in her to make sure nanny west had a room for the night, and didn’t kick her out right there and then. If that was my granddaughter or family member treated that way, I would have dragged her by the hair and kicked her off my property - “geeeeeeetttttt ooouuutttt!!!!”
Thomas redeemed himself. ❤
Not in this scene, part of the reason he told cora was out of his own pettiness
@@sidr8920 no he was only concerned for sybbie he even asked why she couldn't have an egg to her tea
Mr. Barrow’s surprised and shocked reaction “What?!!”
Spot on
Well done Thomas, i don't care who says what about Thomas, but i really like him, he has a charming nasty character but at the same time he is a nice and caring person, just doesn't know how to express it, he is still my favorite ❤❤❤
It, sadly, was extremely common that nanny’s would mistreat children in their care simply for stuff like this. The kings grandfather was abused by his nanny’s because he was the spare not the heir.
I miss this show so much❤
I had to love Thomas in this episode ❤️
I didn't always care for Thomas he was vindictive but I will always believe He Loved those kids
This is why you have to keep an eye on the people you hire to care for your children. Pay attention to your children and raise them yourself. Don't let others do it for you.
My favourite show.
Such a great series!
I love when Cora goes off
No matter whatcelse he did Thomas stepped up to protect kids who needed it
Did Thomas say something because she was making him angry? Yes, but also because he really cared for Sybil and therefore also her daughter very much. This tough as nails man who hates everything broke down crying when Sybil died, that took something from him. He has so many faults that's true, but Thomas grew as a person and did slowly become a better one, he was a wonderful character no matter how sometimes aggravating. Don't forget he also risked his life to save one of the other daughters during the fire, he cared deeply.
That “what??” was FANTASTIC 😂
It wasn't done at the time, but Thomas would have made an excellent nanny as he truly loved the children.
Yeah he would.
I think he would’ve been happy to accept the role if asked.
I love Thomas, my favourite character!
Barrow was a jerk in the beginning of the series because he was protecting himself and at the time he didn't know anything else but that changed ... But I started to find him endearing after this episode of his character. The dimensions of his character were enviable. The English are great at putting together movies and series with depth that can not be matched with America's movies. Thomas turned out to be a true gentleman and a great person to count on for the family. I loved this show. If you haven't already heard of "Call the Midwife" it is also based in England, please do so the depth of characters in this series is just as beautiful and creative as Downton Abbey. I know the title doesn't sound all that exciting but the show is and you will not be disappointed.
American television is unrivaled - especially within the last 20 years. Many consider this the "golden age" of television due to shows like Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Better Call Saul, The Wire, Orange is the New Black, Succession, etc. Downton Abbey and Call the Midwife are great, but so many American shows are in another league.
Such brilliant casting.
I love Lady Grantham..Love Thomas Barrow
Another mistake from the man of the house. First, he hired a 2-bit doctor and then a nanny from hell. Thank God for Lady Grantham.
Thomas Barrow was a nasty piece of work with few redeeming qualities. One of those qualities was the way he looked out for Sybil Jr. after her mother's death because of the respect he'd had for her. In the entirety of the series, Sybil was the closest thing to a friend Thomas ever had. She didn't want anything from him, didn't need anything from him, and was kind because she was a genuinely gentle soul. Barrow was so manipulative and narcissistic, I don't know that he truly could have real friends but Sybil came close. And he never forgot that.
Barrow wasn't very narcissistic, it was only really in the first season that he was, with a steady decline from then. He literally attempts suicide in the last season
@@sidr8920 I'd argue that when he knew Sybil and formed their bond he was, which is impressive.
I love this scene!!
I never liked Barrow. But, I liked him so much more after this and cheered for a happy ending for him.
This made me so happy. And I both the children are safe.
yeesh, the FeeLs you get from this show. Excellent writing and acting. Excellent.
The way Cora IMMEDIATELY took action all while keeping her voice calm and even ....I could never be that calm.
Restricting food from a child for no reason - is the first noticeable signs of neglect ans abuse of power over children, animals, people and society. Its dehumanizing.
Miss this excellent show & the music! Can’t wait for DA#3 in September 2025!
It was even worse than Thomas thought. Not just neglect, she was verbally abusing the little girl.
"As a matter of fact it does."
Mrs Hughes looks so shocked lol
Yes! I liked that for her! Finally!
Just love this show. Also a huge fan of Upstairs Downstairs.
Thomas always had a soft spot for children. I think it’s because they’re the only ones who could carry a pure relationship with him. I remember that episode where he was depressed and he thought Master George was his only real friend; Mary and Thomas have the same personalities. They self-sabotage; they can’t help themselves…but they always regret it in the end (they’re just too proud to admit it).
"not for one minute" - FRIED!
Well done 👍🏾✅ Barrow ...
I just realized something after many viewings of this awesome scene. Cora initially refers to her as Nanny West, but then says *Miss* West is not allowed to touch the children.
BURN
My favorite scene!!!
Such class and a cool head … I would’ve been in a there as soon as I heard “chauffeur’s daughter.”