The 2024 Preseason AP Poll was HISTORICALLY BAD....
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Let's take a look back at the preseason AP Poll. How accurate was it?
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What was the biggest L of the preseason AP Poll?
FSU no doubt in my mind
The real question is the second biggest L
Will there ever be a more overrated team than 2012 USC?
Oklahoma st
And Oklahoma
Is Charleston Southern the worst team ever organized? They lost 41-0 to the worst Florida State team ever.
Charleston Southern could probably beat Kent State
@@obatescould Kent state beat fsu though
Kent State
As someone who grew up in that area yes Charleston southern has the worst fcs football program ever
@@rustthelion8270they won 1 game meanwhile northwestern state went 0-12 and lost to south Alabama by 77
Missouri really had the most underwhelming 10-win season in history
@DBogie yea they got shut out by a bad Alabama team lol roll tide though I really think jalen milroe woulda been amazing under Satan's tutelage
As a Mizzou fan, agreed.
They were so insanely injured against bama so it makes sense@@AndrewJordan-u4m
We can’t even blame the AP voters.. the 2024 was crazy and unpredictable
I’ve argued for years rankings shouldn’t exist until entering of week 5 and a month of football to gauge where teams are
Not a horrible take
I'm fine with having the AP Poll but they need more than the 50 or so voters they have... they need to open it up to waaaaay more people
Kansas just came in and said FU to all of the Big12 contenders😅
Also, Louisville was a stand out, for sure. They got a raw deal. They had the toughest ACC schedule, beat the ACC Champs, only team in the NCAA to have over 24 points per game, only lost their 4 games by 1 TD or less, one of only two bowl game winners in the ACC, and still wasn't ranked at the end somehow.
Cuz they hate us!!! Had the refs win for SMU notre dame n they rigged the Stanford game, we shoulda been 11-1 rematch wit Miami in the acc n make a playoff run easily
There's no such thing as a "tough" acc schedule
@@PSU232 Louisville played at the National Runner-up Notre Dame and played the 28th strength of schedule. Mighty Penn State only played the 38th strength of schedule. Oregon only played the 42nd strength of schedule. Indiana played the 67th strength of schedule. Tennessee played the 49th strength of schedule. Louisville also played a stronger schedule than Wisconsin, Northwestern, Missouri, Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, Rutgers, and Ole Miss, so a lot of Big Ten and SEC schools. There may be no such thing as a tough ACC schedule, but it looks like there are cakewalk SEC and Big 10 schedules. FSU had the 12th strength of schedule and VT had the 26th strength of schedule.
@@seanholley7284 how’d the acc do in bowl games this year? Don’t yell at me with all these numbers when the fact is that acc is much less competition than the other 3 power 4 confrences. Your top 3 teams, smu gets destroyed by psu, Clemson plays a somewhat close game against Texas but still loses by double digits, and Miami finding a way to lose to Iowa state
Syracue Rahhhh all hail ACC Bowl winner brothers Rahh
It’s criminal that Ohio University didn’t end the year ranked after we went 11-3 and won the MAC and our bowl game. Our 3rd straight 10+ win season too.. we only lost to Syracuse by a couple scores on the road and we didn’t have several key players for our other two losses to Kentucky and Miami and we later avenged that loss to Miami by smacking them 38-3 in the MAC Championship game.
I didn’t realize the bobcats were that good this year damn. It felt like a lot of the smaller Ohio schools did good this past year like BGSU and Toledo aswell
@ Yeah man, Miami did alright this year too. Everyone would have had even better records but a lot of MAC and especially Ohio MAC teams played at least two P4 teams and usually the better P4’s this year.. didn’t win many of them but played well in most of them. Don’t forget.. Ohio beat Iowa State last year as well and both teams were mostly the same this year if I remember right and Iowa State was kinda close to making the playoffs..
I just truly believe Ohio deserved to finish at least in the 20-25 range.. but that ugly loss to Kentucky really held them back I guess and especially after Kentucky kinda crashed this year.. But I believe the MAC was one of the better G5’s this year or at least the most criminally underrated G5. Too much parity in the middle kept more teams back from having better records.
@ I think that Ohio might actually have a shot next year to get ranked along with Toledo
You lost pretty badly to Syracuse
Colorado and Tulane turned out to be really good teams as well definitely deserving of more votes then they got pre season
Tulane? Memphis was the AAC team that deserved more votes imo. They were one of the favorites to make the playoff from the group of five. They had a 4 year starting QB returning. They ended up beating Tulane and winning 11 games and beat 2 P4 teams
@GR-bn3xj Tulane made their conference title game Memphis was 8-2 going into that game tulane was 9-2 after beating navy 35-0 tulane had a harder schedule and they were predicted to finish 3rd i understand your argument but that's the reason I said tulane deserved more votes
@GR-bn3xj if tulane was predicted to finish 3rd and Memphis hasn't made a championship game since 2018 tulane played in the championship game for its third consecutive season this year I like memphis but since they were preseason favorites and didn't make the game that just proves me point
@AndrewJordan-u4m tulane played navy when Navy's starting qb was out. That team was completely different without him. Nothing against Tulane, they are good. I just think Memphis deserved more votes, and in the end I think their performance showed that to be the case.
The Gamecocks had a pretty solid season last year too, defeated Oklahoma, Texas A&M and Clemson, and only lost to LSU by 3 points. After their 2 point loss to Alabama they went on to win their next 6 games.
Also would say that y'all should have beaten LSU. That was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. I'm a Clemson fan, so I am looking forward to the rematch for the Palmetto Bowl this season!
Go Cocks….no votes in the AP poll but great season and missed the ‘The Rocket’ in the bowl game.
@@vernaiko9536as an lsu fan I agree they should’ve beat us, that game was wild…. Also I’m looking forward for our season opener against y’all!! Good luck!!! GEAUX tigers !!
I think the biggest issue with the preseason AP poll is the voters just kind of go off of last season. They fail to account for really major shake ups in a program, which is how you see teams like Florida State, who everyone knew was going to be awful, ranked in the top 10
They predicted half of the playoff teams correctly and were off by only 3 spots each for Tenn and Clemson.
Wow Florida State sucks 😂
Not just rocks but the Himalayas.
Any chance you cover the team's in the final AP poll? It's always interesting to see the teams on the outside that fight their way in
I personally think that they should ban preseason polls. All it does is prop up the same teams every time with either multiple 5 stars team or last seasons results. The on field performance shows the pollsters are wrong on at least 4-5 teams every season.
There should not be any rankings until after week 4. But you know these websites won't do that.
When they rank, I don't think they take into account of schedule. I feel like they really only take into account of the skill they have. Of course, Michigan will be top 12 with 4 projected first rounders. Sadly, we had 5 tanked teams, 4 in the top 10 (Indiana, OSU (we beat), illinois, oregon, texas)
If Michigan had an easier schedule (like Boise State or SMU), I believe we would have been in the race for the playoffs.
With the chaos of this college football season, I don't think anybody could have predicted the ranking so I would say the job was not exactly terrible. They usually also rank it off the season before. If they take into account schedule a little more, it would be a lot better.
You won't see the playoff again until you find another scandal to further disgrace yourselves.
@URRidikalus, you're saying Michigan won't be a top 12 program? They went 8-5 with a dude who barely threw for 100 yards a game this year. They beat Ohio St and Bama. If they had anyine even semi capable of throwing the ball they would have made the playoffs this year easy. Fortunately for Michigan, they have one of the best qb prospects since Trevor Lawrence coming in this year, and a top 5 prospect last year in their QB room. They will be back in the playoffs this year. And for many years to come.
T college polls dont take into account schedule, for example, michigan, who played the #1, #2, future #3, and #6 teams. If they took into account schedule, we would have been ranked lower because of all the competition we had. Even if we have a qb who could throw the ball good, it wont bring the 30 points we need for texas, or make up oregon/illinois. Indiana and Washington could have been made up, but those 3 losses would have kept us out of the playoffs, most likely at number 13. We would not have been in the big10 championship with 2 losses to big10 teams. 13 would have been the highest prediction for me, being behind alabama who would be above bc of bias obv. This does not talk anything about next year. Next year our schedule is a cakewalk. OSU and Oklahoma is the only comp and the only con is having a new qb who hasnt played a down in college ball, and the 4 players proj. first round leaving. Next year I see playoffs or natty with a top3 standing in the big10. He is also the highest ever prospect in CFB history, being the first On3 recruit to be ranked with 100. I hope he adjusts quick and we can get on ghe road to oklahoma to beat them and then stay home for osu and beat them
With Boise's schedules comes the requirement to win more games and play well against P5 teams. That is 1 score game with Oregon on the road - not getting blown tf out at home by 21.
Keep in mind the margin of error for BSU is a lot tighter being in the G5 than the P4. If they lost twice they would have been ranked behind Army. Im sure youd disagree, but id argue going 13-0 or 12-1 with Boise Schedule is not that much easier than going at least 9-3 with Michigan 2025 schedule.
Michigan's tough outs are what? - at OU, vs Ohio State, at Michigan State, at Nebraska, at USC, vs Wisconsin, vs Washington - you can lose only 3
BSU's will be - at Notre Dame, vs Washington, at USF, vs App State, vs Fresno State, vs UNLV. - you can lose only 1
@@MattBuild4 And they got a first round bye... wdym... They also dont rly care about the score compared to the outcome. Losing by 30 brings you back 7 spots but losing by 1 brings you back 5, not really a difference. (Not real scale but estimation.) We alsomwould have had the same record as them, winning all but 1 and winning conf champ. Tell me a good team that played boise other than oregon
The worst part of the poll was the very top… UGA over OSU. Looking at the rosters, there was no reason to put OSU anywhere other than #1. It hasn’t been this obvious since like 2013 Bama. UGA arguably should’ve been behind Bama and Ole Miss, hence why they got dominated by both. UGA cannot stop the run… or run themselves. They also can’t throw the ball… still.
Playing with no healthy o-lineman all season and leading the country in drops is not a predictable data point.
Not a single person thought Georgia wasn't going to score on that last drive against Bama, where Beck threw an Int, on a first down, with only 20yrds to go and still 45 seconds left. So can't say Bama dominated Georgia without saying Georgia dominated Bama the 2nd half.
Now Ole Miss just straight beat Georgia.
Georgia had/has great RB's with Etienne, Frazier, & both Robinsons (who were injured). Kinda hard to run with no blocking.
Beck led the SEC in passing TD's even with the two positions he depends on to be successful, struggling the most.
And on top of all that, with Bobo as the OC.
Georgia struggled against running QB's, like most teams do.
I agree with the OSU take, but the rest is a reach.
OSU finished the season 1 spot higher than their preseason ranking. ONE SPOT the preseason top 5 was actually quite legit.
Horrible take.
Auburn is also a very talented 5 win team. Remove the 4th quarter and stats are crazy.
It’s a 60 minute game tho. Ask Nebraska the last decade lol
@ That’s kinda the point…
@@epikpeetzahutpro23 Then again 4 of their 5 wins came against Alabama A&M, New Mexico, Kentucky and ULM - teams that went a combined 20-28 on the season. They also only played 3 final ranked teams the entire season, and only played 4 road games (30% of their season).
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The AP Poll isn't Stupid. It's part of college football Culture. Tradition. It's been around since like the 1950's and it needs to stay. Even if it doesn't matter much anymore thanks to the Stupid playoff. And you shouldn't be judging a Preseason Poll to begin with. It's not like people are seeing the future. It's not even about predictions at all. It's just a Part of Tradition. If the AP Poll didn't exist, then we wouldn't even have anything to base how excited we should get about early season games.
Like that Florida State vs. Georgia Tech game in Week 0. That game was Awesome to watch! Because; since we can't predict and see the future, we totally felt super excited watching Georgia Tech pull a Massive upset over a top 10 team. And everyone knows that is exactly how they felt At The Time. It was super fun to watch and an exciting moment in the season... And it should Always be remembered in that way. No one should look back and forget how fun that moment was just because of how the Whole season finished. And the Preseason AP Poll exist for that. And because of that we got that much excitement.
Most people aren't researching every team's depth chart, recruiting, transfer news, and coaching changes to get an idea of how good they are going to be for the next season. You might look up your favorite team at the most. That is most fans. So when Week 0 and Week 1 comes around they turn on the tv and they look at the names in the matchups and they look beside the names of the schools for a number. Which is an AP Poll ranking. And sometimes just seeing that number builds excitement for a game that otherwise wouldn't interest the individual. The AP Poll has it's place.
You think the AP mattered prior to the CFP? The AP literally removed themselves from the BCS because they were found guilty of corruption - aka why the Harris poll came into being.
The problem is, teams that start ahead of other teams have a humongous advantage. That's my problem with it. If you start outside the top 25 or near the bottom, it is incredibly harder to move up compared to teams already unfairly ranked top 20. The poll is not very accurate early on as well, as we saw this year. It rewards traditional programs but hurts teams that maybe not a powerhouse but which have a great season. So yes, it's great if you're a fan of one of fifteen teams that always get the benefit, no matter how bad they are. For the rest of us, the preseason poll sucks
@@GR-bn3xj Did you not read what I said about not using the preseason poll as an "end of season" prediction? That's not what it is meant for. And AP Poll is not as biased as you make it out to be. It's just voted upon by a wide variety of people (Press people specifically). Which ofc means that some of those people might not catch every game. But and yes, they might should move teams down and move teams up in a more drastic sense in the first 3 or 4 weeks to make up for a team that was placed too high or too low early on. But mostly these people Do watch a decent amount of college football. And they have expectations built upon that.
It's just sometimes teams Don't Meet Those Expectations. Like Florida State. In theory though... Florida State Should have finished the season better. They had the talent to do so. That is Not the AP Poll's fault though. The AP Poll shouldn't get blamed for that and rightly so... The AP Poll did have Florida State outside of the poll and even the "other teams receiving votes" at the end of the season. So it's not like they are doing a terrible job. It's just that everyone keeps thinking the Preseason Poll is supposed to predict how everything turns out at the end of the season. And that is just the wrong way to look at it.
Honestly… all the AP preseason poll has ever done is to unnecessarily inflate or deflate teams in the ranking and unnecessarily conditioning them for the rest of the season without a game ever being played. I think we should do away with it, or that it should be nothing more than an unofficial thing
Pre-season AP poll is just a popularity contest, tbh. Most of the AP polling is.
You failed to mention Utah lost their starting QB in the 4th game.
I told everyone that I knew that there was no way Michigan deserved a top 10 ranking. That's coming from a Michigan fan no less. There was no way that 2024 wasn't going to be a down year. Most people did not realize how important Harbaugh, McCarthy and Corum were to the 2023 and years prior.
As far as the list of other teams getting votes I thought Iowa State was a bit underrated as well but UTSA, Tulane, Wisconsin and Auburn should have got doughnuts.
I think a team like memphis gets the shaft on polls like this. An 11 win season and 2 power 4 wins barely gets them in the final poll bc they start so far behind.
Yes voters got some of these wrong, ever WAY wrong. But tbf this was a crazy season. Literally nobody expected FSU and OK ST to completely fall off a cliff like that. And others had promising 2023 seasons that led most of us to believe they'd carry that into this season. A lot of wierd things happened this year. While some teams were ranked too high, I think it would of been crazy at the start of the season to say FSU for example didnt even deserve to be ranked
Oregon finished in the same spot in the final poll as they did in the preseason poll. So that’s something I guess 😂
I’m not totally surprised at the Florida State being over ranked by the AP. They lost a talent including at the QB position. I wonder if there wasn’t a psychological effect of being undefeated and not being in a bowl game as well. As bad as they were, Utah, Ok.State, Arizona and Kansas were just as bad in terms of being overrated. I wonder if the coaching didn’t have a lot to do with some of these teams being overrated. Oklahoma St. (pass happy OC went away from what got him there in the Big 12), Oklahoma (Venable should have stayed at Clemson, he’s been nothing short of a disaster as the Sooners HC). De Boer should have stayed on the left coast.
Where is BSU
They were unranked going into 2024, but they will likely be ranked going into the 2025 season.
@@evalationx2649 Doubt it cuz recruiting rank plays heavily into preseason polls. BSU has never had a top 60 recruiting class in the history of the program (which says more on the accuracy of the recruiting rank in the first place, since theyve had a below top 50 team just 3 times in the last 25 seasons).
Did Harris Highlights have its own poll at the beginning of the year?
Honestly doesn’t seem that bad
“Worst poll ever” “top 8 is actually really accurate”. Clickbait garbage.
6-7 you say 🧐
Florida State and Oklahoma were the only bad takes.
Kansas, nc state, usc, Utah, okst, zona?
where in the hell was BYU (Im a OSU fan)
Yeah BYU definitely should've been mentioned in this
They got 1 right..everyone knew we had talent just had time it right..go buckeyes