Late graduates at University of Johannesburg told they can't attend ceremony
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- 'In life, there are just some things that you can't be late for. And it's a discipline that has to be installed in you whilst you are still a kid and I get that there are factors that can deter you from being on time,' says Anele.
Several graduates and some family members were barred from entering a graduation ceremony that took place at the University of Johannesburg because they were late for the ceremony.
Anele, Frankie, Cindy and Thembekile talk to Prof Bettine van Vuuren, Registrar at UJ about the incident that occurred at the university & what measures where taken for the crowd control.
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If you're late, you're late. People must start respecting time.
Black people like to defend nonsense. A graduation ceremony is announced months prior and you need to plan prior.
So if you're late youre late stay outside.
I am a UJ graduate and you aren't allowed to join late simple. You go to the overflow and you don't fight.
Fighting to go in like this is just barbaric
Sooo true
Yurp!you're darn right. Not respecting time is one of black man disease,haaii man!This is so embarrassing. Someone just said unforseen circumstances,do they mean for all those people?Sies,man!
True - nqubekoprogresskubheka - You nailed it Swazi - as long as
Africa celebrates and settles for mediocracy - we are going nowhere. In University Gradutions they always asked for 2 relatives per graduate ( Father & Mother ) but
hey - Ezakithi zifika ne soccer club - and they want to force their way into the Graduation Hall .
Love this comment!
The graduates are informed months prior via email about the time of arrival, it’s disrespectful to be late while others are on time.😒🙁
Exactly people don't respect time..now they are acting like Hooligans
I understand it. One cannot predict any delays. Families should book at an accomodation, a day before, if they are travelling from a long distance. The issue is african time, and certain people lack time keeping abilities.
lets be sensitive, at times unforeseen circumstances occur
@@SaintChachki”book at an accommodation “. Must be nice.
Then if you are late. You are late.@@user-xd4su7xe2y
People must start being accountable. If you late, you are late. Finish n klaar. Emotions or not. You late. You had ample time to arrange and plan ahead of time to make sure you are there in time.! Even if you traveled ten hours , manage time well to make sure you early 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
I had my graduation on 3rd of April ...i unfortunately had to leave my guests (my family) outside cause I specifically told them that we cant be late. Then people call me in the morning that they still in held in traffic then ke mna sana i went in without them. So i only met them outside for pictures
Exactly.
Good for you dear.
Good for you.
Very smart of you. Congratulations 🎉
Your are 100% right
Am a student at UJ as a learner the University send you an email that is detailed with the does and dont, then there comes students late while you were told to come 90 minutes early
One more important thing is there is a sitting arrangement based on how the names will be called on stage. If you are late you probably will mess up that arrangement too
Exactly
Even after centuries we still struggle with african time. 😢
I agree with the caller. I too am a UJ graduate, they overcommunicate. And the elderly and taken care of. BE ON TIME
True I think most universities over communicate graduation information. I think I saw time 3 times or more. 1st when you get an email that you are graduating that year, 2nd when you check student portal, 3rd when fetching tickets.
They are always people late in graduations in all universities but they don't push securities they wait for moment to collect their certificates and take pictures in peace. UJ is a problem
In every varsity in fact if you late you not allowed in. I am a parent and I was reading the rules around graduation from my daughter and I sow the rules. If you late you won't be allowed in..
i agree with the notion that the team is pushing, using the airport analogy gives clarity, and to those who have been on flights, know about time keeping, and the importance of being 2 hours early, to provide breathing room, and to bring a level of calm to the situation. Fighting to enter the venue should not be entertained as it triggers, and delay the process.
Now UJ must just be more strict with applying the dress code, BTW also communicated in the graduation letter. Some garments graduates wear border on disrespect.
Universities have 3 to 4 sessions a day of Graduations so if they accommodate late comers then the planning will be a mess and unfair for other students who adhere to time. They were wrong.
If you are late and the aeroplane door closes you'll miss the flight.Africans pliz lets stick to time.Entitlement will destroy south africans
UJ guys is so organised. They prepare graduates on what is expected of them. Dos and Dont's
I agree with Anele there are really somethings you can't be late for!!!
Just be punctual. It's a sign of good manners. Imagine everyone was always late and forcing themselves everywhere? We'll have a problem. Same cause for some road accidents
Its unfortunate that we sometimes continue to refuse to appreciate and understand what - " LATE " - means. nor do we understand the consequences of being LATE. When the train departs at 07H00 and you are arrive 3 minutes late - The train is gone . If the train was going to HEAVEN . You would have missed an opportunity to see God. Good people - AFRICAN TIME has No Place in the DIGITAL , COOPERATE, INDUSTRIALISED WORLD - Lets not fool ourselves. Many of us miss opportunities by being late for special occasions. Time is Money and time waits for NO man.
Regardless of small circumstances... UJ is the best institution
This generation has zero respect for rules and authority. The same thing happened during my graduation and we all slept early, woke up early and tried to get there on time. Follow the rules
It's always stated that you must arrive at the ceremony at least 1hr before!
“Two wrongs can be right” Anele you are human ❤
If there were one or two people at that gate then we would call it exceptional circumstances, but that was a bunch of people and so that just looks like a lack of respect for the occasion and sheer defiance of rules.
It starts being on late for class,then being late for formative assessments,Let us learn to respect time i get frustrated when someone promise me to meet at specific time and you fail without even explaining its just a total respect
When I graduated in 2015 we didn’t even have money for transport with my mom and my let alone for booking accommodation. We had to go on the same day.
🙏🙏🙏 exceptional cases
The whole 3months?
In the event of late comers, I think the institution should have security that ushers parents and graduates to a secondary hall or tent where the ceremony can be live streamed for them.
I don't agree with late coming, but it's sad to see a gogo having to fight security. To also prevent a bad image of the university.
But is violence necessary 😢😢. Late or not late this was wrong,
With no apologies to latecomers, I have a dear sister who can't handle enclosed spaces like a tunnel or an elevator. I always thought she was very brave until one day I asked her what was wrong with her and learned that she had been affected by a stampede during her time at boarding school which caused her to become claustrophobic
People must be on time. Why do they want to disturb the Graduation prosession whist on. The parents broke the gate, the security guards are seen explaining
Rules are rules and must be followed
PLAN AND BE ON TIME!!!!!!
People need to respect time !!!!!!!!!!
Yooo! Tumza's call bafwethu... How rude can one be? Knock on the door whilst the ceremony is ongoing? I give up...
Why don’t they just lock the gate in order to avoid a stampede? 🤷🏾♀️
And you would expect these parents to de-escslate the situation. Phi ke, NSFAS beneficiaries. Same parents who could not take their parental responsibility. 😮
I love your comment Prosper. We are punished for being responsible. I paid for my children's varsity education and was not late for a single grad. Entitled creeps don't pay for anything. Disgusting lot!!!
This mentality of African time must STOP!! How can you be late to your own graduation?? you had assignments and exams that needed to be completed by a certain time for 3 years plus to practice punctuality.
At Oxford they tell you what to wear & what time to get there. UJ is really lenient. You still get your degree, just not the ceremony. They don't take your degree
I remember being on campus and seeing this happen 🤕
Respect time guys, doors close 15 minutes before the ceremony starts!
But delays can happen, such ast traffic, etc. This is real life.
At Wits, even if you are late, they let you in and usher you to your designated seat. It’s really not that deep
You should factor in traffic for important days like graduation
People must respect time.
Umuntu omnyama ne skhathi
Please also upload their pictures .....
The is solution with that they should benchmark a lot to other universities. Since I worked at the University we never experienced situation like this.
Universities have themselves to blame. We were actually oriented into the graduation process,and learnt how dignified and special the occasion is. With this entitlement to rights,this country is going to the doldrum, and UJs reputation is on the line like that of Unisa.
Why is it just UJ that struggle with this...
Its because UJ graduates 14k students a year. Which other university does that in SA?
Is not UJ, is the people who dont want to follow the rules
Nah they just failed to plan this event properly. I remember in my graduation, my Dad and Aunt were late but by the time I went to go collect my degree on stage I saw them sitting on the upper seats/ stands. They were able to get in and this did not disrupt the proceedings. Maybe UJ can get tips on how UP does it. I also went to NWU graduation and same thing. No gates were broken down, no parents were pushed nor shoved.
@@tseboshaunmasilo819 are 14k students graduating all in one day? No! There really is no excuse!
@@user-dz1fh3yd7h Maybe people can come on time
Just calculate 3 years hours of class and 2 hours of being late at your graduation because of this and that. And someone decide No, you not coming in
It happens to people who disrespect other people. Time management is important
If you cared about that 3 years hours of class you wouldnt have been late. Stop with this barbaric behavior and victim mentality when you are the perpetrator
If you respect your own time & energy, you will not come late to your own ceremony.
One word for this sentimental.
This looks like a totally frustrated student. There's a lot mixed emotions behind the violence
Simple example Anele, you can’t be late for your show at on radio,, and you doing that everyday Monday to Friday
Imagine ujike sewuphaya ngekhe!!!
Jika vele u cant keep time!
This happened on Tuesday. I had a graduation on Thursday, we arrived 30 minutes before time and we were still locked up 🤷🏿♂️
I understand the "you can't be late", but the security just started bullying grannies for no reason. Graduates locked out from graduating, appalling!!!
We got three invitations and none of none of the people made it because the venue was full.
How when all the sits were allocated? This is literally one side of the story, ask the people who were there. They gave a PR answer here, far from reality once again.
The supposed "overflow venue" was literally a lecture hall. We were directed to the lecture hall and there was a lecture happening there. There was a whole back and forth with the lecturer that they needed to get out.
They are extremely uncoordinated.
The sad thing is UJ will obviously distance themselves from these things and blame the security companies of course. It's quite sad.
Were you not supposed to be there an hour early? What did the comms they send you say? Using your logic, knowing that it's gonna be hundreds of people that need to be saeted, do you think being there only 30 min before the ceremony is fair?
@zimkhita he won't reply.
UJ graduations are extremely co-ordinated, you're lying
Its starts with with this dancing and singing, and ullulating on stage. Zange yenzeka , graduation is not a traditional event, time not respected
Well UKZN has been doing it for years and it seems to be working for them..
😬😬yeahp and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the singing and dancing… its about time and place!!!
@@blaqbee03It's not a nice sight. I hate those who do not respect the solemnity of the occasion. The fact that UKZN allows it does not make it right!
UJ has never allowed that
@LM-he7eb that's because at UJ there is an understanding that there's firstly, the graduation itself, which is a CEREMONY, which is about every student qualified to be there, and not about just one individual. The CELEBRATION, which happens afterwards is about the individual and nobody else. People who don't understand this spoil the ceremony with their selfish attention grabbing antics. I watched a UKZN ceremony where a mother interrupted the stage procession of her own child screaming and and high-kicking, with her poor daughter trying to get her to stop. I felt so sorry for that girl, this is her moment for the rest of her life. Carried on until an official ushered the woman off the stage. Nevermind the next student whose turn to participate had to be delayed by this.
People have to put on their make up, and the suit has to be fetched, the gogos hat has to be at the right angle 😂😢. God forbid, let's hope people don't get late for their own funeral...
No parents to say "no:.
I agree that when you are late you are late, I do think late comers maybe should be allowed to reschedule walking the stage, I know for a lot of us it means a lot to walk the stage , obviously the qualification will be given regardless.