Oooooh great idea! I'll start scripting! 😁🙌 I was thinking eternal triangle, blues up and down, not sure how tenor madness slipped through the cracks! Thanks!!
Much love and respect my man you played this perfect. You showed that both have beauty in their playin. That album is one of my fav’s and that version of that tune is heartfelt for me. You Spoke about the greatness of Dizzy’s solo and your correct they all are great but Liston to Diz sing that tune..... Damn, that’s what this music is all about. He’s not only singin he’s tellin a story and puttin us right in the middle of it.
Preach my man! Completely agree with everything you wrote. I think my favorite part of this tune is Dizzy's singing and you summed that up perfectly! Move love and respect to you as well, thanks so much! 😁🙏🏼❤️
The first time, I've listened to this music was on spotify and when I heard at 6:23, I've pushed the "like" button. Eventually that was Sonny Stitt on the sunny side of the street ! Thanks Chris for this presentation.
Maaaan. I love the Sunny Side album. Love this competition format. Actually remember watching this way back in quarantine 😂now rewatching in better times. 2 legends. Sonny Stitt should be a household name. Ugh such a great record.
Haha, thank you for the views! Completely agree, this album is incredible! Stitt was so polished on this album, Rollins was in his prime, Dizzy was already a living legend. So great, take care! 😁🙌
Man, Chris, great video as always. Stitt is amazing, but Rollins I think just speaks to me on another level. The way he develops motives grips me more as a listener. I actually was fortunate to see Sonny Rollins play 10 years ago. It was pretty fun for me who had just graduated high school!
Jamie, dude, thanks so much! I'm right there with you, I love both the Sonnys but they definitely influenced me at different parts of my life. Undoubtedly they have influenced so many players that we continue to listen to. 😁🙌🏼
I discovered Sonny Stitt by accident. Was looking for some fast paced bebop jazz on blue note and i was struggling to find any l found what i was looking for when I discovered Dizzy Gillespie Stan Getz, duets and for musicians only. Then I discovered Sonny stitt new york jazz and I'm now hooked.
This is the video I have been waiting for! I think it would be great to make a video on creating long bebop lines (simmilar to Stitt's extremly long lines)?
@@KenyonCarter Hi, Yes! I checked it out but the package is to big to carry (I live in Serbia and my friend who is from America says he can't bring the whole thing). How big is it actually (I'm judging from pictures)?
Dude I just found your channel and I love your style! I got my masters degree in oboe performance and I really struggle with how to approach jazz with the saxophone now and how to listen and learn in an open, positive way. Going from being a “master” of oboe to a novice saxophonist is sometimes a struggle. Thanks for the positivity!
Dude thank you so much for the kind words! Do you play any jazz in the oboe? I'm thinking of doing a video on how to listen to jazz. Let me know if there are any videos that I can make that you think will help and others in your shoes. We are all struggling to become what we image in this music. That's part of the journey, I figure let me embrace that struggle and enjoy it. It's a much better way to travel 😁🙌 take care!
Love the approach of analysis here; would be cool if you did this again over the same tune for different players (albeit unlikely on the same actual track!)
Just heard this - it is really eye opening to hear how very different Sonny is playing this, compared to how Sonny played! Seriously, this is a nice way to "hear them new".
I can't believe I JUST discovered your channel. Awesome, awesome solid content! What's that great looking set up I see in the back? Is that a KB sax neck? Cheers!
Hey thanks! You're awesome! 😁🙌🏼 behind me is just my small studio space with a bunch of inspiration, some legends, some art from my daughter and others. And yes! Good eye, it is a KB neck, Redwood model HH copper, absolutely love and Kim is such an amazing human being. Appreciate your support!
This album is fantastic, I think they both bring something to the table. It be interesting to do a comparison of solos on the Tenor Conclave album: John Coltrane, Hank Mobley, Al Cohn, and Zoot Sims, particularly Comrtane and Sims trading back and forth.
I love this album. (Rollins commanded higher prices and eventually stayed clear of the Chicago tuff tenor battles with Stitt, Jug, Moody, Dexter, Jaws, etc.) Another useful entrance to this recording is Roberta Gambarini's vocalese version. She sings all 3 solos, bringing in the track at the exact same time as the original. -- I love the pure yet embodied sound of Stitt and his clean, masterful articulations (also, Stitt's the underdog, all the more on tenor, because he's so often identified with alto). He may be the underdog but that doesn't mean he can't be top dog.
First off, thanks for your thoughts, always appreciated 😁🙌 I need to check out that vocalese track, sounds incredible. I never thought of Stitt as an underdog so I found that really interesting. You're right, he is more recognized as an alto player, especially early in his career. I think he's one of the only players that successfully played both horns and developed their own sound. Nowadays there are more players doing it successfully (Vincent Herring, Jeff Coffin, Chris Potter, Joshua Redman, etc). You really can't beat that articulation, such a master at that, so clean, even on the most uptempo tunes. Eternal triangle review is coming! Thanks again, take care!
This track is incredibly legendary, it still blows my mind. Imagine what it would be like sitting in the studio to this. For me Sonny Rollins takes it decisively in the last round with that incredible triplet line. Gotta be 10-8 for me for round 4. I also judge 10-9 in favor of Rollins for the bridge, but very close. I'm definitely biased though, having transcribed so much Rollins and him being probably #2 or #3 in the list of my biggest inspirations. You gotta do the same break down of The Eternal Triangle now too!
Oh man, Eternal Triangle will be a beast but I think I can make that happen! Yes Rollins is 1 or 2 for me in regards to influence. I could imagine being in that studio and watching all this magic happen live. Looks like the crowd favorite might be Rollins 😁🙌🏼
"The classic II V I". I never liked how stitt did "ta dum" to the tonic. He did it all the time. One of my favorite albums is "you talk that talk". Stitt great on that.
Thanks Wayne! Both are masters, just trying to show the difference in their approach to standards in a fun way. Def not trying to be disrespectful in any way. Sorry if it came off that way to you. Take care 😁🙌🏼
Neither is actually better than the other, both masters but so different. Love them both for different attributes. I've heard both these masters in person and actually met and spent some time with Sonny Stitt on a couple of occassions. It can only be a personal choice call but on this track I give Mr Stitt the edge.
Agreed not judging who was better here because both are amazing and have influenced and continue to influence so many musicians around the world. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Take care 😁🙌🏼
@@positivelyprogressing Absolutely, I was a very young altoist when I met Sonny Stitt, your probably aware that he had a reputation for being difficult and harsh at times. I can honestly say that he was increadibly gracious and very encouraging with me taking a lot of time to explain a few things and generally really good natured. He was hell of a player. Live he was absolutely amazing. I remember him playing cherokee at a ridiculous tempo - well over 340. He played chorus after chorus of fabulous lines that just had me in complete awe. His blues playing up tempo on tenor was tremendous too, such drive with those half diminished lines that seemed to soar into the stratosphere. He had such a great command of time and dynamics. Mr Rollins was extraordinary too.
That is very cool, thank you so much for sharing. I find as time goes by there are less and less of these stories to share, so I appreciate that greatly.
@@positivelyprogressing Thanks, no problem, I have much more to share regarding Sonny Stitt and a few other greats I got to spend a bit of time with but I've got to get some wood shedding done. Thanks for your excellent comparison idea, funnily enough I loved the boxing analogy as I gave up boxing in my late teens to protect my mouth and hands as I was getting more serious about playing my horn.
BOXING STYLE! just we need to compare two great players! I’m glad that your little child had whatever primitive reaction to this music that my cats did. One of my cats digs Mingus, isn’t that cute?
I like Sonny Rollins. I'm not a big Bee Bop fan it cool but at some point all the rapid fire notes me nothing to me they have no feeling. I rather hear some one playing swing.
I respectfully disagree. I also think that this thing of rating and weighting everything, every nuance, specially in music, is futile and even could be dangarous (after all nor Rollins nor Stitt are in need of "win" any audition or something), but ok, just for fun: If you only rate perfection of execution, raw technique, clarity, "be bop licks"..., maybe Stitt could get the points here but, if you take in account CREATIVITY, surprise, courage, taking risks, exploration, no fear to fail...no way man, it is a knockout, Sonny "rules" since phrase one. I love Stitt too but you almost could say they are in different "weight categories". And Bach, of course drank of their predecessors, so Stitt and Rollins (and everyone) drank for Bird both. But Bach relentelessly explored different ways, different forms, created a lot of new language, wich puts Rollins a lot closer to him than Stitt, IMHO. (and, if we are going there, how many standards composed by Lone Wolf can you name, and how many from Newk?) Everybody has his own likes, true. Nice work anyways, keep on it please, but please remember that, in spite of Whiplash movie, and friendly competition apart, jazz is not professional sports. Postscript: The fact is that one guy played his solo after the other, wich bias the "match". To be totally fair game, both sonnys must play his solos in isolation, wich is somewhat absurd, or both AT SAME TIME, wich would be funny;)
Thanks for the comment, very thoughtful and well presented. I enjoyed reading it! This is all fun and I don’t consider either of them to be “better” than the other just wanted to get people actively listening to these two legends and how they approach and shape their solos. I think you get that and appreciate you going down the different paths you mentioned. Either way thank you! Take care 😁🙌🏼
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GREAT video!!! Love all the boxing references, and great breakdown through the solos. Love it!
Dave! Thank you! Appreciate the kind words and for you being a judge 😁🙌🏼 I might have to do a Kenny vs. Dave but RUclips might explode 😆
I laughed so hard when you had Kenny G on the card 😭
Absolutely loved this vid man!!! Doing this style of video with tenor madness would be super super dope.... just a thought! lol
Oooooh great idea! I'll start scripting! 😁🙌 I was thinking eternal triangle, blues up and down, not sure how tenor madness slipped through the cracks! Thanks!!
@@positivelyprogressing So funny! This video got recommended to me after watching eternal triangle 😂😂😂
@@joshuateague255 that's so rad!😂
Awesome video Chris! I wasn’t expecting that - the play by play had me listening to this like I was hearing it for the first time again ❤️
Steve! 🙏🏼 thank you man! It was awesome to have you apart of the fun! 😁🙌🏼
This video having 4k view IS A CRIME! Awesome content. Rollins for me btw.
Haha, you are too kind! Hopefully it’ll slowly catch on 😁🙌 thanks for the support
So good! Thanks so much for sharing Chris!
Kenyon! Thanks for watching pal! Hope you are well! 😁🙌🏼
I really enjoyed this format. Very informative in the end. Thanks. Also thanks to saxologic for showing me the way to you
So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and yes Saxologic is the best! Take care 😁🙌🏼
Much love and respect my man you played this perfect. You showed that both have beauty in their playin. That album is one of my fav’s and that version of that tune is heartfelt for me. You Spoke about the greatness of Dizzy’s solo and your correct they all are great but Liston to Diz sing that tune.....
Damn, that’s what this music is all about. He’s not only singin he’s tellin a story and puttin us right in the middle of it.
Preach my man! Completely agree with everything you wrote. I think my favorite part of this tune is Dizzy's singing and you summed that up perfectly! Move love and respect to you as well, thanks so much! 😁🙏🏼❤️
The first time, I've listened to this music was on spotify and when I heard at 6:23, I've pushed the "like" button. Eventually that was Sonny Stitt on the sunny side of the street !
Thanks Chris for this presentation.
One of my faves! ❤️😁🙌
Awesome video!! Love this tune!!
Thank you 🙏🏼 Same, it's one of my all time favorites! 😁🙌
Fantastic, keep on doing this👌👌
Will do! Thanks for watching 😁 🙌
Excellent, Chris!
Thanks Gabe! Appreciate you dude! 😁🙌🏼
Nice thanks
Yewww! 😁🙌
Maaaan. I love the Sunny Side album. Love this competition format. Actually remember watching this way back in quarantine 😂now rewatching in better times. 2 legends. Sonny Stitt should be a household name. Ugh such a great record.
Haha, thank you for the views! Completely agree, this album is incredible! Stitt was so polished on this album, Rollins was in his prime, Dizzy was already a living legend. So great, take care! 😁🙌
Man, Chris, great video as always. Stitt is amazing, but Rollins I think just speaks to me on another level. The way he develops motives grips me more as a listener. I actually was fortunate to see Sonny Rollins play 10 years ago. It was pretty fun for me who had just graduated high school!
Jamie, dude, thanks so much! I'm right there with you, I love both the Sonnys but they definitely influenced me at different parts of my life. Undoubtedly they have influenced so many players that we continue to listen to. 😁🙌🏼
I discovered Sonny Stitt by accident. Was looking for some fast paced bebop jazz on blue note and i was struggling to find any l found what i was looking for when I discovered Dizzy Gillespie Stan Getz, duets and for musicians only. Then I discovered Sonny stitt new york jazz and I'm now hooked.
He's has one of the most iconic bebop sounds especially on alto! Thanks for checking out the video 😁🙌
Fantastic Video Keep Up!
Thanks MG! 😁🙌🏼 take care!
This is the video I have been waiting for! I think it would be great to make a video on creating long bebop lines (simmilar to Stitt's extremly long lines)?
Thanks Sergej! I have some ideas in the works for that :)
Hi Sergej - I've got a program called "Bebop Boot Camp" that might be just what you're looking for. Hope you'll check it out.
@@KenyonCarter Hi, Yes! I checked it out but the package is to big to carry (I live in Serbia and my friend who is from America says he can't bring the whole thing). How big is it actually (I'm judging from pictures)?
Sergej Stokuca it all fits right on your phone, tablet, or computer. Everything is delivered digitally. No need to carry anything 😊
Man, your videos are always super entertaining and knowledgable with really good production quality. Keep up the good work!
Luca, thank you so much! You're too kind 😁🙌🏼
Dude I just found your channel and I love your style! I got my masters degree in oboe performance and I really struggle with how to approach jazz with the saxophone now and how to listen and learn in an open, positive way. Going from being a “master” of oboe to a novice saxophonist is sometimes a struggle. Thanks for the positivity!
Dude thank you so much for the kind words! Do you play any jazz in the oboe? I'm thinking of doing a video on how to listen to jazz. Let me know if there are any videos that I can make that you think will help and others in your shoes.
We are all struggling to become what we image in this music. That's part of the journey, I figure let me embrace that struggle and enjoy it. It's a much better way to travel 😁🙌 take care!
Great vid and super fun analysis ! For me it's a tie! Just too hard to choose! And LOL at Dave Pollack!!
Thanks so much for watching! Agreed too close to call, at least we can all agree Dave is one funny guy! Take care 😁🙌🏼
Stitt solo is just perfect here, every note counts
Definitely a classic to al aye be remembered! All of these guys played incredibly on this entire album 😁🙌
Stitt wins for me here too. Incredibly melodic while mixing in great bebop lines.
Great points there! Thanks so much for watching! 😁🙌🏼
Fun indeed ! For me both are kings - but I like what Rollins does with rhythm.
I would love to see a part two with the eternal triangle
I would love to do that whole album actually. It's on my list 😁🙌
Love the approach of analysis here; would be cool if you did this again over the same tune for different players (albeit unlikely on the same actual track!)
That's a great idea! I'm going to start thinking about this and come up with some cool combos 😁🙌
Just heard this - it is really eye opening to hear how very different Sonny is playing this, compared to how Sonny played! Seriously, this is a nice way to "hear them new".
Totally agree! Maybe I'll do more of these comparisons in this way to really "hear" what the masters are doing. As always, thank you Jo!🙌
It’s such a kool concept, and a nice cute little vid :)
Thanks! Appreciate that 😁🙌🏼
Rollins on points...
As soon as Rollins unloads those powerful Blue Seven type licks, Stitt had no gas left in the tank
Next time I'm having you do some play by play ringside! 😁🙌🏼
@@positivelyprogressing 🤣
I choose Stitt; but, those Rollins triplets are always sublime. Thanks for another great video.
They are so sublime! Thanks so much for watching and picking your winner, love the participation! 😁🙌🏼
I can't believe I JUST discovered your channel. Awesome, awesome solid content! What's that great looking set up I see in the back? Is that a KB sax neck? Cheers!
Hey thanks! You're awesome! 😁🙌🏼 behind me is just my small studio space with a bunch of inspiration, some legends, some art from my daughter and others. And yes! Good eye, it is a KB neck, Redwood model HH copper, absolutely love and Kim is such an amazing human being. Appreciate your support!
Such a cool video
Thanks so much! Appreciate that, take care 😁🙌
To me, Sonny Stitt's solo is one of the best recorded solos in jazz and can't ever be compared to Rollins's moderately good one,
Thanks for your opinion and checking out the video 😁
This album is fantastic, I think they both bring something to the table. It be interesting to do a comparison of solos on the Tenor Conclave album: John Coltrane, Hank Mobley, Al Cohn, and Zoot Sims, particularly Comrtane and Sims trading back and forth.
That’s a great idea! I’ll have to sit down and listen and take some notes. 4 totally different styles there!😁🙌
Love the “on the sunny side of the street” intro with both of’em playin’
(Edit: KEKW I commented this 10 seconds after the beginning of the vid)
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! I love that intro of the tune, thought it was a perfect intro for the video 😁🙌🏼
I love this album. (Rollins commanded higher prices and eventually stayed clear of the Chicago tuff tenor battles with Stitt, Jug, Moody, Dexter, Jaws, etc.) Another useful entrance to this recording is Roberta Gambarini's vocalese version. She sings all 3 solos, bringing in the track at the exact same time as the original. -- I love the pure yet embodied sound of Stitt and his clean, masterful articulations (also, Stitt's the underdog, all the more on tenor, because he's so often identified with alto). He may be the underdog but that doesn't mean he can't be top dog.
First off, thanks for your thoughts, always appreciated 😁🙌
I need to check out that vocalese track, sounds incredible.
I never thought of Stitt as an underdog so I found that really interesting. You're right, he is more recognized as an alto player, especially early in his career. I think he's one of the only players that successfully played both horns and developed their own sound. Nowadays there are more players doing it successfully (Vincent Herring, Jeff Coffin, Chris Potter, Joshua Redman, etc). You really can't beat that articulation, such a master at that, so clean, even on the most uptempo tunes.
Eternal triangle review is coming! Thanks again, take care!
This track is incredibly legendary, it still blows my mind. Imagine what it would be like sitting in the studio to this. For me Sonny Rollins takes it decisively in the last round with that incredible triplet line. Gotta be 10-8 for me for round 4. I also judge 10-9 in favor of Rollins for the bridge, but very close. I'm definitely biased though, having transcribed so much Rollins and him being probably #2 or #3 in the list of my biggest inspirations.
You gotta do the same break down of The Eternal Triangle now too!
Oh man, Eternal Triangle will be a beast but I think I can make that happen! Yes Rollins is 1 or 2 for me in regards to influence. I could imagine being in that studio and watching all this magic happen live. Looks like the crowd favorite might be Rollins 😁🙌🏼
always to listen to Stitt. But, Rollins are strongest for ad-lib power!
LOVE two legends!
I love those guys too! Thanks for watching 😁 🙌🏼
@@positivelyprogressing I'm happy to talk about two legends.
Rollins is still alive. Wow. I think they are both gods.
Sonny Rollins the king of hardbop
Agreed! Sonny Rollins is the best! 😁🙌
"The classic II V I". I never liked how stitt did "ta dum" to the tonic. He did it all the time. One of my favorite albums is "you talk that talk". Stitt great on that.
I'm going to check that album out, thanks! Take care 🙌
Sunny Stitt is a Was a Master, but how can you conpair these two great Musicians.
Thanks Wayne! Both are masters, just trying to show the difference in their approach to standards in a fun way. Def not trying to be disrespectful in any way. Sorry if it came off that way to you. Take care 😁🙌🏼
Neither is actually better than the other, both masters but so different. Love them both for different attributes.
I've heard both these masters in person and actually met and spent some time with Sonny Stitt on a couple of occassions.
It can only be a personal choice call but on this track I give Mr Stitt the edge.
Agreed not judging who was better here because both are amazing and have influenced and continue to influence so many musicians around the world. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. Take care 😁🙌🏼
Also, very cool that you got to see both of these giants in person. I bet those are some great memories.
@@positivelyprogressing Absolutely, I was a very young altoist when I met Sonny Stitt, your probably aware that he had a reputation for being difficult and harsh at times. I can honestly say that he was increadibly gracious and very encouraging with me taking a lot of time to explain a few things and generally really good natured. He was hell of a player. Live he was absolutely amazing. I remember him playing cherokee at a ridiculous tempo - well over 340. He played chorus after chorus of fabulous lines that just had me in complete awe.
His blues playing up tempo on tenor was tremendous too, such drive with those half diminished lines that seemed to soar into the stratosphere. He had such a great command of time and dynamics. Mr Rollins was extraordinary too.
That is very cool, thank you so much for sharing. I find as time goes by there are less and less of these stories to share, so I appreciate that greatly.
@@positivelyprogressing Thanks, no problem, I have much more to share regarding Sonny Stitt and a few other greats I got to spend a bit of time with but I've got to get some wood shedding done.
Thanks for your excellent comparison idea, funnily enough I loved the boxing analogy as I gave up boxing in my late teens to protect my mouth and hands as I was getting more serious about playing my horn.
BOXING STYLE! just we need to compare two great players! I’m glad that your little child had whatever primitive reaction to this music that my cats did. One of my cats digs Mingus, isn’t that cute?
Your cat has pretty good taste in music 😁🙌 very cute! Thanks for checking out the video!
They're both legends but i prefer sonny stitt
True, can't go wrong either way 😁🙌
stitt is it
Stitt is pretty amazing! 😁🙌
please jazz god bless ur child
What are you thinking? A breakdown of that tune? Thanks for watching by the way! Take care 😁 🙌🏼
I like Sonny Rollins. I'm not a big Bee Bop fan it cool but at some point all the rapid fire notes me nothing to me they have no feeling. I rather hear some one playing swing.
Right on! Bebop was derived from swing/dance band music so there's some overlap there. So many masters to listen to. Do you like Basie and Ellington?
I respectfully disagree. I also think that this thing of rating and weighting everything, every nuance, specially in music, is futile and even could be dangarous (after all nor Rollins nor Stitt are in need of "win" any audition or something), but ok, just for fun:
If you only rate perfection of execution, raw technique, clarity, "be bop licks"..., maybe Stitt could get the points here
but, if you take in account CREATIVITY, surprise, courage, taking risks, exploration, no fear to fail...no way man, it is a knockout, Sonny "rules" since phrase one. I love Stitt too but you almost could say they are in different "weight categories".
And Bach, of course drank of their predecessors, so Stitt and Rollins (and everyone) drank for Bird both. But Bach relentelessly explored different ways, different forms, created a lot of new language, wich puts Rollins a lot closer to him than Stitt, IMHO. (and, if we are going there, how many standards composed by Lone Wolf can you name, and how many from Newk?)
Everybody has his own likes, true.
Nice work anyways, keep on it please, but please remember that, in spite of Whiplash movie, and friendly competition apart, jazz is not professional sports.
Postscript: The fact is that one guy played his solo after the other, wich bias the "match". To be totally fair game, both sonnys must play his solos in isolation, wich is somewhat absurd, or both AT SAME TIME, wich would be funny;)
Thanks for the comment, very thoughtful and well presented. I enjoyed reading it! This is all fun and I don’t consider either of them to be “better” than the other just wanted to get people actively listening to these two legends and how they approach and shape their solos. I think you get that and appreciate you going down the different paths you mentioned. Either way thank you! Take care 😁🙌🏼