WHY DO I KEEP HAVING COPYRIGHT ISSUES WITH ROYALTY FREE SAMPLES! 😡
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2022
- YO! Why do producers that use samples from royalty free sample websites keep having issues with copyright? Let's have a discussion about this growing issue among producers in the music business!
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The community needs to start writing down names of common copyright abusers and we need to publicly show that list. A spotlight chases the darkness away.
Thats why you cut up, reverse, pitch, and throw your sauce and turn it into a whole diff sample. never just drag and drop lol
Absofuckinlutely!
Splice allows you to generate a certified license on sounds you download in the event you get hit with a copyright strike.
🤔 cool!
Make all my own shyte as much as possible. Take the time to be organised and know how to go after crafting your own sound design. To me places like splice are just asking for trouble. Now crafting and selling work is another thing... selling the same thing to multiple artist is shady. 👊🧡👍Just my honest opinion.
The sample companies should help us defend their samples to stop these crooks.also the companies should do a better job at checking if the samples they sell are legit.
On TikTok, I got a copyright violation on a loop I made. I sound design and compose the music before I resampled it to make a loop. I chopped and flipped it, and then made a beat to try to get around this issue. I was in disbelief 🫢 because I take pride in my skills as a sound designer, composer, and musician. Someone or Bot hit my video for copyright volition and I couldn’t even plead my case to TikTok. I understand where sample base producer are going through. Hopefully it gets better soon because if my work is not safe and I make it all myself, then I know it’ll be pure hell for those who use samples and loops packs.
That's a good thing that your skills landed you on their radar. I think you should build off of that...
@@matthewgaines10 That's great but you still have to fight the battle ....and hell, how do you even do that with Corp. like Tic Tok or RUclips
Man I got a copy right in a beat a I made with a drum loop. I can solo the drum loop sample and tik tok is cool with it but as soon as it's in my beat I get a copy right flag. Then I I have one that's a straight up loop from a 60s record and they're fine with it. Their system is so flawed it's hilarious.
I'm getting jacked on RUclips, to where even custom drum patterns that I build LIVE get a claim. Not a real boy yet (under 1,000) so not much to be done about it, right now, and doesn't affect much. I agree though, RUclips needs to do better with this.
The issue is that there are exclusive license and non-exclusive. Non-exclusive which may be royalty free means you can monetize for personal projects but not on major streaming platforms. Exclusive means you can use it anywhere & it's yours with full copyright if you paid the license fee or you created it from scratch without 3rd party samples. So if you have creators using non-exclusive samples in their content and posting it on major streaming platforms that's when issues occur. There is no clear solution to this other than to prove where your sourced your samples from when disputes come up. This is why nobody should be using random free samples online for professional purposes.
This happens because some producers are trying to put content ID on a beat that uses 3rd party samples that they’re not the original creator of. It’s a problem when leasing beats also.
YES....but they paid to use those samples
@@TJTinerellawell they paid to use them but not exclusively. But that's not the Producers fault. Most often the Label is the issue which is kinda abuse of power.
I've only had 2 falsely reported occurrence of youtube flagging our samples in the past 2.5 years so luckily we've been able to avoid this issue for the most part. Another way to reduce this issue is to do what cymatics is doing and simply have limited inventory for each pack so only so many people can actually have access to the pack in the first place.
They also have license for their packs
I’m getting flagged from cymatick packs
@@brandonwade3915 Hehe yep gotta make sure to modify those loops more! :)
Thank you for making this video. I been flagged on Facebook and my videos taking off of Instagram for this and I had to prove my rights. I feel that when someone buys a sample they should take that exact sample off. RUclips I have had no problems at all
this was always going to happen
This happened to me for using what I can only guess was a a top loop I pitched down and used for texture with my drums… I purchased it from Splice and like you said pretty much it’s a system that’s based on who claims it first, which is ridiculous since the original artist that created it for splice isn’t getting paid for it so why another beat maker the same as me!?
Also this seems to be mostly an issue on tic tok and RUclips
Splice needs to have all the melodies cleared to use before they can sell them or have a system in place that recognizes royalty free samples the same way it recognizes ones that aren’t, problem solved… it’s a shame, I shouldn’t have to chop warp and mangle the hell out of something beyond recognition just to use something I paid for… Although I almost always chop up and slice all my samples I shouldn’t have to mangle em up beyond recognition every time since I purchased some things cause I like it and want to use it in a beat!?
Facts!! 👊🏾🙏🏾
@@marcuselbow Great video and great comments by everyone!
@elbowMediaStudios To your knowledge is Splice working to resolve the issue? I'm new to the game and I love it! And most of the samples I use are completely unrecognizable to the point of laughter, so if need be I can and will find ways to comply, but I am also deeply saddened with the fate of the first few songs I made and realizing all of this makes me really frustrated with Splice because I bought the $400 annual membership, and for what? I am kind of upset by this. This should absolutely be resolved on their end. New user agreements for people uploading their sample packs, pronto. Because that is some serious "royalty free sample (but you might get sued)" B.S. This would not fly in any other industry I can think of.
Nope not that I know of 🤔 but I agree with you bro something has to be done! But in the meantime keep chopping up those sample to the point where it’s unrecognizable! 👊🏾
@elbowMediaStudios Well, maybe people need to sue Splice. Because something ain't right, needs to be done, and honestly? Probably isn't that big of an issue to resolve. Just fix the user agreements, or make Splice a free "try at your own risk " type thing because charging me for stuff I can't use is ridiculous. As a noob/outsider looking in, I feel like I got screwed giving them that $400 and definitely won't re-enroll my top tier membership again. Just keep the basic plan.
There should be a questionnaire on the streaming service that asks if the producer used splice ( or any other service) and if so have a description form that you fill out giving detailed information about the sample pack, service used and the name of the sample.
My Distro simply asked if you had used any "Copyrighted Samples" RUclips should be asking this and allowing their use if the creator can provide a copy of the license.
Distrokid ask you what you have done on the tune ?? And if you get contend ID on RUclips they ask you again if you use loops or Sample packs !! If yes you can;t make a content ID !! But some other Fraud Distributer like Believe Music or The Orchard they don't do this !! They still claim the copyrights even if you put all the links the order and show them that that is a sample Pack !! So they are frauders too and many Artist have make complainment against them !! I will get nothing from RUclips and i will take them to the cord !! Keep in mind that also The Orchard belongs to Tune Core !! F@cking Frauders !!
It royaty free until you make more money than them...
I love loops for music, but I saw that happening back in the late 90's. So I started making my own stuff. yo Bra you have to keep it original.
There's a difference between royalty free and copyright free. You're still using someone else's melodic loops and in worst case scenario you're getting screwed by content ID thieves regardless if you originally played the melodies.
Tell me in simple words. I buy it cause i want to earn mony from it. Sohowto knowwhich vst sample plugins will not latter claim copywrite issues.
That's why I don't use Splice...👀 Splice isn't nothing but a endless cash pit for those that created it.. 🤷🏾♂
So what can you use then? I was hoping slice was the way..
This would be all solved if platform like RUclips just have a option to upload the license
I get flagged so much lately it ridiculous. And its never a legit claim. Always my own joints.
lol so glad i dont have this problem...sampling recorded works has never been part of my workflow.
I do sample instruments though...my library is extensive...saxes, guitars, strings etc etc.
love creating those samples with multi velocity layers and articulations...ahhhhhh
royalty free is different from copyright free. people need to start reading the licenses and understand the concepts. copyright free is public domain stuff so its safer to use. just because something says "free" it doesn't mean there isn't limitations to its use.
Royalty free is alsocopyright free. Whwn u buy somwthing it means u can distribute it. Simple
NO.....We paid to use these loops, a class action lawsuit to force the loop distributors to force them into ensuring that people who paid good money for their products get to use them as they see fit. I am not too worried about me personally get Strikes because I have not released anything loaded with melody loops etc....But I do Rock music, play everything myself, but DRUMS I paid good money for my drum library and they can't make copyright claims on Riffs or drum beats.....but every once in a while a loop sounds cool and I want to flavor a bridge or beginning/Ending with it.
I stopped using samples
Great video. 🪓🪓 🪓 em up! Nice background music as well. Thank you for the content.
I tried to upload my published music will all the purchased beats and royalty free samples onto my personal RUclips account (after distributing with Distrokid) and my music was flagged because another artist used the same sampled and claimed it first. I disputed and luckily won because I included my ISRC code. It's a tricky issue when I try to upload to my personal RUclips page though, not when I use a distributor. Not sure how to avoid it when people use the same Splice or other royalty free sample sounds.
I gonna keep it funky with you. I summize that this was in the play so to speak. Sell sampling machines and then snatch revenue or tie people up in petty disputes. I don't use splice or any other so called sampling sites.
Facts! Bruh
Companies have to stop making the users deal with the issues they are responsible for!
Producers new a lobby group to update copyright laws
Go to intellectual property watch look for the Article US perspective: US Court Split on Legality of Music Sampling 06 28 2016 I think there can be a case of fair use supremacy when buying samples packs
A class action lawsuit of content creators might work in our interest when we buy samples on sites who explicitly say royalty free and do as you please and resale and license
Using live drummers might help and most of us could use the work.
Lazy producers copyright anything they can.
Money destroys creativity
It sounds kind of like this is a problem on the end of RUclips (and other sites)'s integrated content ID recognition. It ought to be possible for Splice (or other companies) to content ID each and all of their samples, and simply not enforce it. Actually, it might be even more of a technology issue on RUclips/Google's side(and others). Their automatic content-ID system should be more nuanced, and be able to differentiate between "this is a reupload of someone else's work" and "this uses the same parts as someone else's work, but this is a separate, unique piece of work". It seems like content ID almost completely IGNORES the existence of creative & fair-use laws.
Problem is RUclips and Tik Tok are lazy and just use some generic AI system to detect if something is "copyrighted". You are right they do need to create some kind of tech that is more nuanced.
Use Tracklib
TikTok is the worst.. so far no problem on RUclips..
great video. keep it up!
Thanks Pink! 🙏🏾👊🏾
That’s why I make my own samples!🤔that way I don’t have to think about any of this!
Nice suggestion man. I’t’s not great to pay for use a sample and have copyright issue with it. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
perspective changer
What if i rap over a vocal phrase or sing over it
If the individual sample isn't on an album that is copyrighted or have and IPI number then It's my Idea and interpretation of a sample that I DID BETTER!!!
Very informative...thank you bro💯💪
Sampling is arguably more valid or certainly equally as such, to using an instrument you didn't invent (no living guitar players invented the guitar). And what are all these whiney patent trolls gonna do when AI starts using their samples? Ban robots from making music? The copyright laws will HAVE to change to prevent whoever invented the guitar from coming back to life and suing Led Zeppelin.
Using MIDI loops also will help.
Simply loved you bro
Love you too fam! 🙏🏾👊🏾
very informative man, thanks!
So music creator uses royalty free samples. Then publishes with some nefarious music company, who then tries to get click cash from YT by claiming copyright over material their client got from royalty free samples to begin with. Crazy stuff. The YT AI on this is whacked.
When you chop it can’t they still flag you for having a little peice of a sample
It’s harder for the algorithms to catch the sample when it’s not in its original form. 🙏🏾👊🏾
@@marcuselbow thank you 🙏 so very much for your time and that important info.
@@marcuselbowBro can I talk to you real talk about this issue to clarify what is happening? I feel like the only way to get this situation resolved is if we are all clear on what is actually happening here. It’s not copyright infringement or anything even legal man. This has nothing to do with the copyright laws, or the samples. Producers need to get this straight, this is nothing but a content id issue, and that’s a corporate monopoly, please put this information out there. DO not say copyright, because that’s not even legal, its straight up RUclips promoting its own system that allows people to extort money from people. It’s nothing to do with copyright infringement or copyright law at all. We need to put the heat on the source of this issue, which is Google.
Top producers shouldn't be using Splice..it's just lazy. Splice should be for producers that are just starting out not for producers that can afford to hire singers for vocals.
i got copyright issue with the BA-crash built in samples on Fl studio
I have this happen to me two times already and i'm not a big artist. One of my songs got copyrighted by someone's beat who used THE SAME royalty free sample from Cymatics, but because they somehow got Content ID, or upload the song first, the other gets their song's monetization rights revoked. The other time this happened, was to someone else, again a guy uploaded a beat with a sample i used, and their song got copyrighted by mine, and i don't even have Content ID. It's just up on stores, nothing else. It makes no sense. How do i fix this, i feel like if i send a contest request for this copyright thing and it goes south, it could end in the termination of my channel, something YT said could happen. What do i do?
I'd been planning to release a number of tracks in the coming months but have put that on hold due to this ridiculous situation, given I extensively use samples (and don't always chop them up). What did you decide to do about this re your own music? What confuses me is that you're not supposed to opt-in for ContentID if your song contains samples (thru Distrokid at least), so are ppl simply lying to obtain ContentID? Just like they lie when claiming copyright on a shared royalty-free sample..?
what about one shot drums does this put me in jeopardy because distro says samples I'm like yo how they gonna detect a one shot high hat I really what do I have to go out and buy a whole drum set
No you good bro!
@@marcuselbow I thanks bro that's great I thought I was gonna have to buy drum set or start buying a piano in and all of my other instruments Yeah I make my own loops And I chopped them up But I do use Foley sounds like birds rain Night street life sounds stuff like that I got from splice what about those You know lofi genre
Also where are you getting the samples from? And don't use content ID when you choose to.....
Make your own melodies buy Omni sphere kontackt analog labs Zen ology to name a few then use splice for choping samples is probably the best bet and one shots
I don’t understand. My splice samples are not legal?! Wtf Splice? Misrepresenting. That’s what I thought the appeal was.
Is this just happening for just loops or samples such as a kick drum?
Just loops 🤔
I have deleted Splice account
Hmmm looks like illegal samples are safer than royalty free hahaha 🤣
this is really starting to suk azz caz i've been making tunes for a while... couple decades... AND some sample packs which I THOUGHT WERE RARE, are now on splice. they were NOT on splice when I checked years ago. THAT sucks. I don't use much out of packs, but still !!!
people need to start boycotting subscriptions altogether. your water / electric / gas bills are subscriptions, there shouldn't be much else beyond that. people need to stop subscribing to every little thing. its gonna bite u in the arse one day.
What a mess this situatuion is
Bro!!1 I need some SINGERS... FEMALES... How can I become one of your producers ?
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what about vocals thought?
🤷🏾♂️
Money hungry industry.
GET THE INSPIRATION AND MOVE ON!!!!! DO NOT USE THE SAMPLE
I can use cymatics free samples loops ?any copy righ issue t?
Not sure but remember if the samples can be purchased by other producers then there’s a risk of copyright issues due producers registering songs and claiming the samples as their own. 👊🏾
@@marcuselbow bro iam using free samples and loops of cymatic s any problem
If You cant play, and you cant chop up samples don't be a producer. Imagen being in the studio and you cant play and Timberland walks in and sees you have Arcade or Splice open. You will get laughed out the studio. Learn and hone your craft there is no short cuts.
If you can't play keys then pay a keyboardist to make your samples and loops.
Simple. Learn how to create your own music from scratch
How's the weather up there on that high horse? Everything in this world is a remix. Melodies.... beats..... even your own cells and atoms. It all gets reused. It all happens without your permission. Absolutely no one and NOTHING is original and that's a very beautiful thing.
people like "soul searching" are upload splice samples without manipulating them or even trying to make them original. crooks. scammers. doing it for streams. tones of people are doing this now. just to make an extra buck.
Sad!! 😵💫