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I agree with all the comments on range… I see that the VW buzz only has about 250 miles of range also… With vans in particular, basically a big family vehicle, you need to minimize the charging stops… I’ve also been disappointed with the Ford cargo van EV as far as range is concerned… We have the technology now in 2025… all new vehicles should have a minimum of 500 km of range
I ordered a long range 4wd 2023/2024 Brightdrop 600 van and got a 24K discount. 77K with California taxes is a great deal compared to all the other options available. It's by far the best deal for a long-range van but it is pretty big. They do have the 400 model which is not as huge.
I like the look of this mpv. If the seating is like Inster where both the front and back rows can be folded flat, it could be a nice mini camper van. Range is however too low.
That ford is NOT in the states, we have 1 EV van and its posh. Waiting on a Tesla minivan, model y refresh shows tesla going more affordable with MY line up.
I like the idea yhat you can take long trips and still decide what day of the week to charge. Charging prices are from zero to low but that may change later. Not to mention you need 3 or 4 apps to cover all your charging needs because there is no one universal app you can pay from. A van is good for moving, so I'd rather see a 1,000 km as a mid luxry range to give you freedom of time and convenience. Not everyone lives within 15-20 mules of work and charging every night is a chore on a bad day where you want to just sleep. Sam is right to say the range is realistically 80 percent and on some low quality EV's the range is even worse in the winter. Hyundai, VW and other brands have exaggerated their numbers to close sales and I have personally experienced this myself with their older gas vehicles. Always rent for a couple of weeks before comitting so you can vet out all the claims to your possible scenarios you might face. I feel like some of the claimers here, not all of them, but some are just looking at numbers online, in reviews, and other 2nd hand account. If I worked as an UBER driver or Door dashed, I'd easily reach 500 km on my ambitious days and would be very annoyed to have to stop earning $$$.$$ because the battery is depleted. Here in the Pacific Northwest, going to the ocean or the mountains might be around a 400-800km all day trip with 4-6 hours of leisure. Going to Canada or Portland Oregon is similar in range. Personally, if I have a choice for a long range van, an integrated structural battery may give you the most range per Kg of load and lower your wear and tear costs.
As Los Angeles burned for days on end, horrifying the nation, scientists made an announcement on Friday that could help explain the deadly conflagration: 2024 was the hottest year in recorded history. With temperatures rising around the globe and the oceans unusually warm, scientists are warning that the world has entered a dangerous new era of chaotic floods, storms and fires made worse by human-caused climate change. The firestorms ravaging the country’s second-largest city are just the latest spasm of extreme weather that is growing more furious as well as more unpredictable. Wildfires are highly unusual in Southern California in January, which is supposed to be the rainy season. The same is true for cyclones in Appalachia, where Hurricanes Helene and Milton shocked the country when they tore through mountain communities in October. Wildfires are burning hotter and moving faster. Storms are getting bigger and carrying more moisture. And soaring temperatures worldwide are leading to heat waves and drought, which can be devastating on their own and leave communities vulnerable to dangers like mudslides when heavy rains return. Around the globe, extreme weather and searing heat killed thousands of people last year and displaced millions, with pilgrims dying as temperatures soared in Saudi Arabia. In Europe, extreme heat contributed to at least 47,000 deaths in 2023. In the United States, heat-related deaths have doubled in recent decades.
In Europe we have winters and so the range falls to about half. So sub 400km is like 200km range and that is pretty bad even for city driving. PS I am looking to getting into an IONIC 6 or Inster possibly. We do not have credible Chinese cars where I live modulo Volvo. Hyundai seems a bit more advanced than Volvo. or may be I am not understanding well. What I find underwhelming is that the IONIC 6 claimed super efficiency does not seem to be real. So may be IONIC 5 MY25 instead - larger battery and much better interior - I hate the huge central consoles in IONIC 6 and other contemporary vehicles. Kia and Hyundai seem to understand this and removed the huge central consoles in IONIC 5 MY25 and Kia 3.
I agree that center consoles are a waste of space. They are a major liability when one needs to get out of the opposite side of the vehicle. A nice feature of the Leap Motors T03 is that the center thingy looks to be removable leaving behind a clean and tidy interior.
Always thought the staria would be a great EV van - looks all swoopy and futuristic. The range is atrocious though - and suprising given Hyundai is generally towards the front of the pack with their other offerings.
I'm surprised by your range anxiety. In the real world, only travelling salesmen truly need long range... and we know what a huge number they are! Here are the numbers: An average American's home-to-work commute is less than thirty miles, so the daily drive is less than sixty. Australians are CLOSER to work: just sixteen kilometers each way, or only 20 miles commute per day. Canadians live even closer to work: 9 kilometers, for a daily commute of less than 12 miles each day. The French (to get out of the anglosphere) are in between the Canadians and Australians, at 14 kilometers each way, or 18 miles daily, both ways. These are averages. Some people drive more, some less. And this is just the home-work commute, to which must be added shopping and whatever (if everything isn't via Amazon ;-) ). All told... an average American drives a bit under 15 000 miles every year, or a little over forty miles per day, which is coherent with the numbers for their home-work commute. Unsurprisingly, Australians drive a lot less, just a bit over 12 000 km (less than 8000 miles per year). Canadians drive about 15 200 km/year (9500 miles/year.) Fun fact, the highest Canadian mileage is NOT out West in BC or any of the big provinces; it's in Newfoundland and Labrador, with 18 100 km/year. The French drive more, at nearly 24 000 km/year... which is (surprisingly) a bit low for the EU. But let's simplify: people drive less than 300 miles each week, most people quite a lot less. Two-thirds of all of these nationalities are homeowners. So two-thirds of all of these people could charge an EV at home. Typical range for EVs sold in the US, Canada and Australia is around 300 miles. European models have less range, around 200 miles. A reinforced home electrical socket can deliver a full EV charge in about 11 hours. An ordinary home socket will need over thirty hours to fully charge an average EV. That sounds bad... until you think about it. European charging is somewhat faster, because 220V is standard. Australia, too. Most evenings, after an ordinary day's driving, that average EV will STILL have over 250 miles of range in its battery. An overnight hookup with even the least powerful socket will easily bring the car up to 100% charge. Here's the bottom line: an overnight charge is more than the average driver needs to keep their EV topped up. --------------------------------------- Those are average numbers, applying to the vast majority of drivers in thes countries... but not to all. I'd love to hear about outliers: the Outback cowboy, the South Dakota farmer, or whatever: annual mileage, road-trip length and frequency, and so on. I'm willing to bet that an EV can handle 99% of needs.
@0:10 Sorry, but it looks like it was carved out of a _bar of soap_ by a six-year-old with sweaty hands. That said, it still looks better than the *Microbus* horror spawned by *VW.*
It's a van with seats where the others are people movers. Why did they make small meaningless visual changes? This just demonstrates China's superiority.
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I agree with all the comments on range… I see that the VW buzz only has about 250 miles of range also… With vans in particular, basically a big family vehicle, you need to minimize the charging stops… I’ve also been disappointed with the Ford cargo van EV as far as range is concerned… We have the technology now in 2025… all new vehicles should have a minimum of 500 km of range
The problem is battery weight and cost.
I ordered a long range 4wd 2023/2024 Brightdrop 600 van and got a 24K discount. 77K with California taxes is a great deal compared to all the other options available. It's by far the best deal for a long-range van but it is pretty big. They do have the 400 model which is not as huge.
New vehicle, I'm sure Electric Viking pre ordered one of these as well..
Probably not. It's not Chinese.
EV cars are still quite expensive in Canada.
I haven't seen the prices come down at all.
Strange, but at least second hand prices have dropped really nicely round the world.
It will look similar to the Li Auto Mega !! LOL
Modern Previa, Estima, Tarago van
I really hope these make it to the USA 🇺🇸
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To comment on the hydrogen van, I am absolutely amazed that there is any energy being spent on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles…It’s insanity
Sometimes I feel like in a small way that the Hyundai staria is the Scion xB reborn. I hope it comes here. Epic No-ICE.
I like the look of this mpv. If the seating is like Inster where both the front and back rows can be folded flat, it could be a nice mini camper van. Range is however too low.
Looks like the igly version on Li Auto
hyun-deh
Yeah it's definitely not the prettiest date at the prom.
Zeekr 009 is not available in Europe AFAIK.
Stária diesel 4x4 in Argentina cost usd 70.000
I wish there were wagon/estate ev car...
Did they really have to make it look like the Johnny Cab from Schwarzenegger's Total Recall?
This van is targeted at commercial use/ last mile use not long distance
That ford is NOT in the states, we have 1 EV van and its posh. Waiting on a Tesla minivan, model y refresh shows tesla going more affordable with MY line up.
robovin for the win.
Lol - Hyundai have to be trolling us all with that one.
Looks ok 2 me. 150km/charge makes it too limited
I rented the gas version. Great car, except you absolutely need to tint the windows, or you'll feel like you're in an aquarium.
I like the idea yhat you can take long trips and still decide what day of the week to charge.
Charging prices are from zero to low but that may change later. Not to mention you need 3 or 4 apps to cover all your charging needs because there is no one universal app you can pay from.
A van is good for moving, so I'd rather see a 1,000 km as a mid luxry range to give you freedom of time and convenience.
Not everyone lives within 15-20 mules of work and charging every night is a chore on a bad day where you want to just sleep. Sam is right to say the range is realistically 80 percent and on some low quality EV's the range is even worse in the winter.
Hyundai, VW and other brands have exaggerated their numbers to close sales and I have personally experienced this myself with their older gas vehicles.
Always rent for a couple of weeks before comitting so you can vet out all the claims to your possible scenarios you might face.
I feel like some of the claimers here, not all of them, but some are just looking at numbers online, in reviews, and other 2nd hand account.
If I worked as an UBER driver or Door dashed, I'd easily reach 500 km on my ambitious days and would be very annoyed to have to stop earning $$$.$$ because the battery is depleted.
Here in the Pacific Northwest, going to the ocean or the mountains might be around a 400-800km all day trip with 4-6 hours of leisure.
Going to Canada or Portland Oregon is similar in range.
Personally, if I have a choice for a long range van, an integrated structural battery may give you the most range per Kg of load and lower your wear and tear costs.
As Los Angeles burned for days on end, horrifying the nation, scientists made an announcement on Friday that could help explain the deadly conflagration: 2024 was the hottest year in recorded history. With temperatures rising around the globe and the oceans unusually warm, scientists are warning that the world has entered a dangerous new era of chaotic floods, storms and fires made worse by human-caused climate change. The firestorms ravaging the country’s second-largest city are just the latest spasm of extreme weather that is growing more furious as well as more unpredictable. Wildfires are highly unusual in Southern California in January, which is supposed to be the rainy season. The same is true for cyclones in Appalachia, where Hurricanes Helene and Milton shocked the country when they tore through mountain communities in October.
Wildfires are burning hotter and moving faster. Storms are getting bigger and carrying more moisture. And soaring temperatures worldwide are leading to heat waves and drought, which can be devastating on their own and leave communities vulnerable to dangers like mudslides when heavy rains return. Around the globe, extreme weather and searing heat killed thousands of people last year and displaced millions, with pilgrims dying as temperatures soared in Saudi Arabia. In Europe, extreme heat contributed to at least 47,000 deaths in 2023. In the United States, heat-related deaths have doubled in recent decades.
In Europe we have winters and so the range falls to about half. So sub 400km is like 200km range and that is pretty bad even for city driving.
PS I am looking to getting into an IONIC 6 or Inster possibly. We do not have credible Chinese cars where I live modulo Volvo. Hyundai seems a bit more advanced than Volvo. or may be I am not understanding well. What I find underwhelming is that the IONIC 6 claimed super efficiency does not seem to be real. So may be IONIC 5 MY25 instead - larger battery and much better interior - I hate the huge central consoles in IONIC 6 and other contemporary vehicles. Kia and Hyundai seem to understand this and removed the huge central consoles in IONIC 5 MY25 and Kia 3.
I agree that center consoles are a waste of space. They are a major liability when one needs to get out of the opposite side of the vehicle. A nice feature of the Leap Motors T03 is that the center thingy looks to be removable leaving behind a clean and tidy interior.
Always thought the staria would be a great EV van - looks all swoopy and futuristic. The range is atrocious though - and suprising given Hyundai is generally towards the front of the pack with their other offerings.
Needs 350 to 450 miles of EV range to compete as once loaded this will drop like a rock
I'm surprised by your range anxiety. In the real world, only travelling salesmen truly need long range... and we know what a huge number they are! Here are the numbers:
An average American's home-to-work commute is less than thirty miles, so the daily drive is less than sixty. Australians are CLOSER to work: just sixteen kilometers each way, or only 20 miles commute per day. Canadians live even closer to work: 9 kilometers, for a daily commute of less than 12 miles each day. The French (to get out of the anglosphere) are in between the Canadians and Australians, at 14 kilometers each way, or 18 miles daily, both ways.
These are averages. Some people drive more, some less. And this is just the home-work commute, to which must be added shopping and whatever (if everything isn't via Amazon ;-) ). All told... an average American drives a bit under 15 000 miles every year, or a little over forty miles per day, which is coherent with the numbers for their home-work commute. Unsurprisingly, Australians drive a lot less, just a bit over 12 000 km (less than 8000 miles per year). Canadians drive about 15 200 km/year (9500 miles/year.) Fun fact, the highest Canadian mileage is NOT out West in BC or any of the big provinces; it's in Newfoundland and Labrador, with 18 100 km/year. The French drive more, at nearly 24 000 km/year... which is (surprisingly) a bit low for the EU.
But let's simplify: people drive less than 300 miles each week, most people quite a lot less.
Two-thirds of all of these nationalities are homeowners. So two-thirds of all of these people could charge an EV at home.
Typical range for EVs sold in the US, Canada and Australia is around 300 miles. European models have less range, around 200 miles.
A reinforced home electrical socket can deliver a full EV charge in about 11 hours. An ordinary home socket will need over thirty hours to fully charge an average EV. That sounds bad... until you think about it.
European charging is somewhat faster, because 220V is standard. Australia, too.
Most evenings, after an ordinary day's driving, that average EV will STILL have over 250 miles of range in its battery. An overnight hookup with even the least powerful socket will easily bring the car up to 100% charge.
Here's the bottom line: an overnight charge is more than the average driver needs to keep their EV topped up.
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Those are average numbers, applying to the vast majority of drivers in thes countries... but not to all. I'd love to hear about outliers: the Outback cowboy, the South Dakota farmer, or whatever: annual mileage, road-trip length and frequency, and so on.
I'm willing to bet that an EV can handle 99% of needs.
Sister brand Kia makes much better looking and cheaper cars than Hyundai. Kia for the Win!!
Is there a need to cover an overpriced POS with 300 km real world range?
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@0:10 Sorry, but it looks like it was carved out of a _bar of soap_ by a six-year-old with sweaty hands.
That said, it still looks better than the *Microbus* horror spawned by *VW.*
Toooooooo expensiveeeeeeeee
Would not touch it with a 10-ft pole.
It's a van with seats where the others are people movers. Why did they make small meaningless visual changes?
This just demonstrates China's superiority.
Its ugly and the range is horrible.
I want to say the Staria looks very much like the Li Auto Mega. Although I want to say the Mega does look cleaner but very similar in style
I want to say the Staria looks very much like the Li Auto Mega. Although I want to say the Mega does look cleaner but very similar in style
@SMJ-l6r im just surprised that Hyundai would bring a car like this to market. Its just not ready.
Staris is not a good van to start with. It isn't even close to MG maxus 9. It rather be 40% cheaper than the Chinese MPV
Unfortunately the LA fires burned all the hydrogen fueling stations
Whoa that is just hideous. Ill take a chinese EV
Too ugly, range is too low, and probably too expensive. Fails on every level, no thanks.
Wishlis t" BYD buys Canoo van"