High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) As Fast As Possible
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024
- High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) is very different than the types of VRAM we've seen before. How does it work, and will it actually improve your gaming experience?
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0:10 He isnt even playing. He is watching a RUclips Video. YOU CANT FOOL ME LINUS!!!
Umm did they use it in some other video too? I remember this
it's a stock photo
+ichiban ter They still didn't fool him.
I noticed that too!
+Derzo They've used it in other videos still amusing seeing a guy pretending to play whatever game he's watching.
"while you cant eat hbm" dont tell me how to live my life linus
+JAW Can and can
So I'm also subscribed to Gordon Ramsey. I saw thumbnail of this video in my subscriptions and I thought Gordon uploaded a new recipe for a sandwich. I checked out its title, "High Bandwidth Memory ..." I thought what kind of sandwich is this? so I clicked to check it out, and I came here.
+CS GO I'm also subbed to Ramsey, but I thought it was a Talbot foodie video...
haha I thought the same thing
+CS GO LoL!! I thought what? Sandwich and Bandwidth! What's going on here? LoL!!
Tebello Gladwin Mosoma hahahaha...you rapper?
i think u were mistaken because if it were to be Ramsay's sandwich then a prefix 'F***ing' would have been attached to it
As of 2020, this video aged like a fine egg.
😂 Yeah, I'm from 2021 and I fix computers and I've never even heard of HBM until today.
@@userjames2009 Vega 56/64 cards run on HBM2. Not many benefits tho.
@@JanboelPe And also the new Intel Xeon processors equipped with 64 GB HBM.
My girlfriend thought I was watching a cartoon because of Linus's voice
GG
For those interested, I've made a transcript:
0:00 Whenever there's a big new graphics card released, there's always like a feeding
0:04 frenzy as gamers try to get their hands on it so that they can to blow away dudes
0:09 in crisper detail and at higher resolutions than ever before, but while
0:14 the performance of the graphics processor or GPU itself is often the
0:19 most talked-about aspect of the new card the amount of video memory or VRAM
0:24 on a card can have a big effect on just how high you can crank up your settings.
0:30 But while GPU's, or graphics processors have been updated and re-updated
0:35 pretty regularly over the last few years, not much has happened with VRAM
0:40 recently. We've had this same old GDDR5 memory hanging out on our card for over
0:46 seven years. But the next big thing in VRAM is finally here. I'm talking of
0:52 course about high bandwidth memory or HBM. So what exactly is it? How is it
0:58 better than older VRAM technology, and most importantly is actually going
1:02 to make a difference in your games?
1:05 Well, just like any other type of VRAM, HBM performs functions like keeping
1:10 rendered frames in storage in a frame buffer, no, not that kind, holding textures to
1:15 make everything on screen look realistic and storing crucial information for
1:19 lighting and other effects. In short: it holds the information that your GPU
1:24 needs to act upon to push an image to your monitor. But although HBM serves the
1:29 same basic function as other types of VRAM, the way that it's actually
1:33 implemented on your graphics card is very different. For starters, GDDR5 and
1:39 its predecessors required DRAM chips attached to the PCB, spread out around
1:46 the processor. And the more memory you want, and the higher speeds you want, the
1:51 more chips you need to plunk on there. Which combined with the traces, for data
1:56 and power, to all those chips take up a lot of space on the card,
2:00 and increase manufacturing complexity and therefore cost. HBM solves these
2:05 problems two ways:
2:07 Number one the VRAM and is now directly attached to the GPU package, meaning that
2:12 HBM requires no more space than what's already normally taken up by the GPU.
2:18 Two: HBM uses 3D RAM Dies, that are stacked on top of each other and that
2:24 communicate using tiny interconnects called through silicon vias, or TSV, which are called
2:30 that since they physically go through all the stacked layers at once.
2:34 Kinda like a toothpick drug giant club sandwich. And while you can't eat HBM
2:39 like you would a Monte Cristo, these changes have the potential to give
2:42 you some positively delicious results while gaming. So the chips themselves
2:47 have a much wider data interface, that combined with stacking the chips gives
2:52 you these little, well, stacks, that can move up to 256 gigabytes of data per
2:57 second, which means that a graphics card with just four stacks of HBM could
3:02 have memory throughput of a full terabyte of data per second, which will
3:07 become increasingly important in the future, as more and more non gaming
3:11 applications, like Adobe Premiere for example, start leveraging the graphics
3:15 card for computer and as the resolutions that typical gamers want to run at
3:19 increases. Not to mention that there's things like multi 4k monitor setups
3:24 are becoming cheaper and more popular all of which will be easier with more
3:29 memory bandwidth. Ok then Linus, so how do I hop on board this hypetrain?
3:35 Well, it's being easily currently available on AMD's top-end Radeon R9 Fury
3:40 series, but, the rumor mill figures that Nvidia's upcoming Pascal
3:45 graphics cards will feature the technology, and as we all know: the high
3:48 end today is the mainstream of tomorrow, so that in a couple of years we should
3:52 all be able to have enough memory bandwidth to choke a horse. Speaking of
3:57 choking horses! Nope, not related to that at all... [Insert sponsor spot here]
cool
aprreciate it
cool but youtube does subtitles/closed captions so.... yeah.....
CatheteriZedEYE Meh, it doesn't have interpunction, and fucked up words... Just take my sandwich ;-)
congrats, you wasted your time.
Fucking thumbnail, I read the title as High Sandwich Memory
+theSomething I want it.
+theSomething I remember sandwiches...
+theSomething I read Bandwich , makes no sense tho' BANDWICH.
I swear that is the exact same sandwich I ate for lunch. So good
+theSomething I thought he was going to say HBM stood for Ham and Bacon Melt
Because of the picture, i first read it as "High Sandwich Memory"
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we are at the future and this aged like fine milk
When you Search for Intel HBM memory on CPU die in 2022 and you find Linus 7 years old videos
Linus really did time travelling
Love that the B-roll for the wider interface at 2:50 is actually one of the more bottlenecked portions of the 401 during rush hour...
0:09 Is he really playing RUclips?
Yep. Still a bit buggy though. Would play again.
Wow didn't notice that
Yep i was looking for a comment about that hehe xD
3:50 nope, even after 8 whole years, gpus are still bottlenecked by VRAM and bus width thanks for NVIDIA.
i really wish hbm hit the mainstream like linus predicted but sadly this isnt the reality, we just have gddr6x
Came for the sandwich left because the sandwich disappeared faster than expected.
CONFIRMED: Dollar Shave Club chokes horses
lol
"Peppermint scented butt wipes for men"
WTF?
you must be new here.
+Levi Varga (4TheRace) LOL.
+Levi Varga (4TheRace) why would it only be for men is what confuses me
+Levi Varga (4TheRace) The first line of defense for _swamp ass_
+tchitchouan inouane Do you get surprise rimmings?
This video really should have included a mention of HBM gen 2.
I am working on HBM IP at Intel. Very well explained !
this video was uploaded in 2015 ... today, year 2019 ... and we have nothing of HBM in desktop computer nor GPU ...
Yea it sorta flopped
Talking about MonteCristo and hype trains in one video? Good job, Linus.
Kinda wish you would've addressed the fact that HBM gets more performance without as much clock speed because even people like JayzTwoCents seem to be confused; mentioning lower memory clockrate as a disadvantage when the fact is the only important performance metric of the memory for graphcs card applications is its data rate per second which is determined by clock speed * bus width so it doesn't matter that one is a lot lower when the other is a lot higher (something i know you did mention but didn't elaborate on). Good video otherwise, thanks LTT :D
@3:45 wooops that didnt come to frooition no hbm on pascal lol
Fruition.
3:47 can confirm we can choke a horse now
Linus, da tech tip gawdfather. Running da tech tip youtube mafia. How many channels features this guy holy shit. lol
We are changing a lot. AMD comes with HBM, Intel comes with a new type of memory for storing data way faster than SSD.
I would also enjoy that DDR4 never came out, instead I would want something with less timings, more memory and way faster bandwidth.
Uh
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2020 HBM2/HMBE is 150$/2 4GB stacks transfer speed is 204gb/s per stack
0:10
is that a youtube video...
yep
+becca He's watching that very instensely
+becca Lol I think so.
Because of the progress bar
3:18 i was listeninng to the video in the backround and this scared the shit out of me
must wait til 4k is ready to view
I miss this Linus tech tips :(
omg dollar shave clubs back!
Lovin the 360p!
I love the new lighting :)
Lol ... the moment Linus said "Nvidia upcomming" my nvidia notification popped up saying there's an update ready O.o. Coincidence ? I think NOT !
linus is gaben confirmed
+Ethaldin Morween It's been confirmed for a long time now that nvidia is Illuminati
+Ethaldin Morween That is literally the definition of a coincidence.
360p makes baby Gaben cry
I though he was going to say "With my car, which really should have been scrapped by now"
Holding off on buying a new gaming pc until HBM2 comes out.
ayy shoutout to Toronto with the highway image!
Thanks for the information
Hey Linus. Can you provide insights; will this HBM ram stack be used for CPUs ever? Like not for gaming needs but for computational speed gains?
What city is that @ 2:49?
Am I the only one who watches a lot of videos in 360p and doesn't give a shit if it cant be higher?
+Gutted77 Yup.
+Gutted77 nope
+Dennis Podles Why? Lol the videos still watchable. Why wait for it to buffer if its just a guy talking.
+Gutted77 Internet is decent enough in plenty of places that people don't have to care about long buffering times.
+Dennis Podles
3.High bandwidth internet.
Why does hitting the pause button in just cause 3 trigger my system to restart like screen goes black and restarts my specs are AMD fx 6300,8gb ram1866, Biostar ta 970,480gb SSD,gtx 970. Will resetting bios help there something with a conflict with the drivers on my computer is it something to do with my ram timings cause it's weird when I hit pause and the entire system resets only with that particular game.
With the stacking memory, isn't heat becoming a problem? Would love to pick a Fury apart and see if there is extra cooling on the memory.
I have a fury X and those are running with a close loop water cooled 120 mm radiator pre attached with a cooler master fan on it. It runs a very cool 30 C idle. The fury non-X are air cooled and send the heat down heat pipes towards the back of the cards. I do think the cards get hotter than the gddr5 technology without water cooling but they are built pretty intelligently overall and won't cook your ambient temperatures.
HA! Pascal will have HBM!! Lol the predictions that Nvidia actually cared 😂😂
When I saw the title and thumbnail I thought it said "High bandwidth sandwhich" lol
I like to watch in 360p and imagine I'm watching ZDTV back in the day.
I like to watch in 360p cause my potato internet can't handle more.
+StigmatiX I think about TechTV on most days. I think it was the joy of my younger years. It's a damn shame G4 gobbled it up.
+Eli Coutch lol, but G4 used to be decent back then... now its shit... there isnt much good on tv nowadays
@Techquickie I have had two different AMD Fury owners online say that there HBM Memory Stacks I have pointed them to the Video with linus which explains that Vram does not stack can anyone confirm that this is the case and that HBM Vram does not stack or has something changed that I am unaware of.
That's a good video.
Don't forget AI though. I imagine neural nets will benefit from this as well.
Im gald you stoped wearing polo shirts! And is that a casio calculator sticking out of your pocket? Oh how you've grown Linus :)
So important question can someone link me a link to how to make the sandwich on the thumbnail please I need a guide since if I try to do it alone I'll probly burn it or give up and get fast food.
1:10 I was going to make a snide remark about how the picture they showed was totally irrelevant, then the pun caught up with me.
If you are using Blackmagic Studio camera and shot it on Film mode then use
Davinci resolve and use Aces or newREsolve colour sience o make it crisper just by using IDT for BMD Film 4K and then just REC 709 ODT and then you will make a nicer image.
Now blacks are very LOGish and skin tones are all over the place. Just remember while you ingest clips to REsolve in clip atributes change Auto to 0-1024 Mode becouse resolve often do automatic puulup to 64-980. Sorry forr my english and have a nice day
Ok Mr.linus now with the released of the GTX 1080 well then they not used HBM Memory...so sad :(
hmd isnfor amd hahahahahaaaaa oh wait no hbm more in amd cards vega will have HBM 2 hehe
Engreesh?
its an AMD inspired concept so no one will have it in mass b4 AMD does so once Vega gets it Nvidia will also so most likely any card from NVIDIA b4 that will be GDDR5x
I'll come back when 1080p is available.
I'd go 4k if I have fiber, but I don't. Do you?
4:46 "I like shaving with a dull razor" - No one, ever. Don't laugh with closed mouth, results may vary depending on you having a cold or not.
What is that a picture of? It Canadian freeway? Please Linus know more Canadian pictures okay?
0:09 He watching a youtube video ROFL!
2:49 I recognize highway 401 from anywhere, especially after I spent half my life there waiting through traffic jams.
Australia by the looks of a the signs.
So when is the next generation of cards coming out so I can get a 970 or 980 for cheap-ish?
so because of cost reduction would dual gpus on the card be a thing for high end models?
dual or tripple r9 nano will be ok for dual 1440p ultra wide?
4:42 I'd like to forward my name to be entered there in replace of "no one, ever"...
Have the colors of this video improved since the last or is it just me?
+Jaydon PlaysGames (jjws600) yeah, they have, it was an issue with their in between format they were using off of their render farm. They switched over to cineform, and have been working with that since then.
Cool :)
And after 7 years we still dont have consumer hbm
Proof of how garbage that PC market is...
4:27 Wait, what? Pepper mint scented butt wipes?
HBM is Host Bus Memory, not High Bandwidth Memory - referring to the way the connections are bussed together to the host silicon wafer.
According to AMD it's called High Bandwidth Memory. According to the web search I just did, HBM means High Bandwidth Memory. SK Hynix, who created HBM does not say what HBM means on the website, but looking at the specs for basically explains that it is High Bandwidth Memory. So no, it does not mean Host Bus Memory. You are incorrect, troll.
Just looked it up, and you are right. I guess the marketing wanks have decided to rebrand it.
1 TB per second? How much data is required to generate a high res image in game?
that dollar shave ad tho...
Is the stacking more fragile than the typical way RAM is applied? It seems like it the connections could break easily.
Next we get Intelligent Bandwidth Memory or IBM
thank you everytime give me more knowledge ❤
Why did I only find these now?
Am I the only one who likes a LTT video before watching because I already know it's going to be good?
OK I'm building a gaming rig this Christmas. should I go for the GTX 980 or wait for the Pascal cards. I don't want to go with AMD because I can only afford a 750w PSU and I want to get a second card in the future.
I just watched 4K video on old 1280x1024 screen. Nice.
whats a good card i can get for my son my max budget is 300$ i dont know a lot of this stuff
Here's a suggestion:
NTFS vs FAT32 as fast as possible!
Failed HBM prediction, HBM only exist on server GPUs and CPUs.
I still don't see how faster is better for GPU memory. Is VDDR5 a bottleneck? As long as you have enough and it isn't a bottleneck what does it matter?
Follow-up pls
why only 360p ?
+Daniel Lopez RUclips hasn't processed the video completely. The quality will get better in a bit.
Welcome to youtube
That thumbnail 😆
Is HBM current applied to CPU memory? If not, why not?
Could you do a video on GDDR5X?
when the hell will you need to move a terabyte at once in gaming? is there ever actually that much data worth of graphics at once?
Cant wait for over 1tb hbm gpu cards plus a game engine running over 1 billion ultra texture graphics!!! Your eyes will pop out!!!
GAME KING
Dollar Shave club is also available in new zealand.
Can i call this an AFAP? Linus plz respond.
I m waiting for the day when linus make a videos on choking horses. my 980ti will be shit then
someone help me please, will it be possible to use a computer without cpu ? like using a gpu s the cpu because it's a lot faster (i know cpu's are better at some things and gpu's perform better only in very high ressource demending tasks(like games)) but... just think about it for a second, openning up the task manager, performance... ALL THESE COOOOREEEES !!!!!!
can someone explain how adding more vram chips makes it faster speed?
Can you explain 3d bios?
now where do we order one of those linus sandwiches
I read this while eating a Grilled Cheese Sandwich.
linus must've felt really disgusted by saying the word amd but felt joyous when he said nvidia.
How much for the sandwich?