It's different, that's for sure! Pretty logical layout really, but there is so much milling in that core it's a little intimidating at first. Not having most things spring loaded helped a lot.
Dear God man! There were 2 things running through my head for the whole gutting. 1. Whoever designs these has absolutely found their calling in life! 2. Those damn shaking hands! But only because I can feel your pain, my friend! Stupid adrenaline! hehe And the close up with the camera just magnifies it. First vid of yours that I've watched, & def not the last. Congrats & well done!
Thanks man! I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! The shaking hands and adrenaline dump are a big part of the fun for me. The excitement makes it all worthwhile. Hopefully it shares a little of how I'm feeling with my friends as well :)
tumbl3r Yeah, something that I have always found kinda funny/weird is that whenever you're working on a project, game, or challenge & we'll use picking locks for this example, your hands & everything else will be steady like a rock even though that is when the adrenaline is actually pumping. But as soon as you're done picking the lock, the second you stop concentrating is when the shaking instantly starts & will continue at least twice as long as it took to pick the lock! ("You" was a general term & not you specifically.) You are right though, the shaking really does convey your adrenaline & excitement a lot more to those of us watching.
That's very well said. I have found the same thing. I think this lock was actually the first one where I started getting that rush before I opened it. The reason was that this was the very first take on the camera and I assumed I'd not be able to get it so quickly. When I realized I was making progress and the lock was nearly going to open, I got really excited. It all just intensified after the plug turned. LOL :)
Well the next time that happens gently set the lock down in frame, stand up, then start throwing your picks, vice, etc... while screaming "Yeah Bitches!" Then go out for a beer & a smoke before you dissect it! LOL Just doooooon't get too ambitious & start flipping the table over! 😉😆
Beta-blockers also help against shaky hands. its not ideal but it may work if it causes you trouble in making videos. Most doc's will give a script if you ask for one since its pretty safe and cant be used by junks.
A master! I've changed my locks to EVVA and was told its the best locks, i asked the lockpicker how hard its to lockpick it, he told me its not possible, i was really sceptical about this statement. Im gonna send him a link to this vid, nothing is impossible. Great job!
Well the key is how much time is required to defeat and how many average criminals are capable of defeating the lock. It will take way too much time and by then cops have arrived.
I love the shaking hands, Shows just how much pride you put into your craft. man this is very impressive. One of only a few people that can tackle this lock. Ive got well over 20 hours and nothing, not even And not even a false set. What a very mean lock. You man it look like childsplay, nice video sir -LSG
DUDE! I was getting nervous just watching you disassemble that! You shake like a criminal!! A shot of whiskey before that lock might have been a good plan!! Great job though Bill. Very impressive picking!!
Great pick man. Very impressive. When im picking high security locks i end up having to have a stiff drink first to keep my hands from shaking lol. Ive accidentally overset pins because i got too jittery.
Wow! You have videos of you successfully picking the least likely to be picked locks. In other words, you have "The rest of the locks" covered. Amazing work.
Thank you very much for your kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. These days, lots of folks seem to be picking this lock, but back then it seemed darn near impossible to me. It sure was thrilling to get it open on camera! Thanks again for watching and I'm happy you enjoyed my video :)
Thanks +dirk! I saw your cutaway vid on this lock, and it is absolutely beautiful! Like all of your videos really, it was just beautiful! I actually learned a lot about this lock from that video.
Thank you for your kind words. Your picking of this lock is really fantastic. While my research about this lock I found not so much about picking of it. Again great job.
I've got these on the house and garage (a keyed-alike set of four, soon to be expanded to six). I believe they read the key four times in a full rotation, so if you're picking it in a real-world scenario (i.e. a door) you'd pick it, but for every 90 degrees the key needs to rotate before the mechanism opens you'd have to pick it again.
Twice actually. The bottom bar groove at 90 degrees is not deep enough to disengage the sliders from he sidebar so the combination cannot really be scrambled at those points. It can be scrambled at the 180 degree points, but it's usually not because the sliders are not spring loaded. They tend to stay where they are after picking so long as you're careful not to disturb them. With a bit of care you can open the lock on a door with one picking. That doesn't mean the picking is easy though. It is not.
Interesting... arrived at this video because I was intrigued by the strange looking key at my workplace (public building, Tyrol, Austria). Can feel pretty secure about the locks there then, right?
hell yeah great video! that adrenaline rush after picking a tough lock in front of people is so relatable, hah! my hands shook like that after picking my first duracam in front of my friend.
EVVA is a developer and manufacturer of mechanical and electronic access systems. EVVA was founded in Vienna in 1919 and has been a family business ever since. Research, development, production and export to all parts of the world are still carried out at the company headquarters in Vienna. EVVA is not just a manufacturer of security products, EVVA is also a reliable contact partner for its partners and customers in all security matters.
Certainly there are some that haven't been picked. Although it's hard to imagine one that can't. I think something like the IKON Verso with a CLIQ in it would be about the closest thing I can think of to pick-proof.
Hahaha... Yeah, this one had me shaking like a leaf! The adrenaline dump is part of what makes this stuff so fun! All that work culminating in that one second it takes the plug to turn. Just love it! It's even more pronounced for me when the camera is rolling :)
tumbl3r just started picking finally and i got the same when i finally spp my titalium 80/50 the other day, that last pin and the sound of the schackle spring open is addicting af😊 same as landing a big fish lol
Amazing picking - fantastic to see that lock picked in such a short time. How can you distinguish between false an true gates. How long did you try until it first opened? Cheers and thanks for that great video.
Thanks man! It's always hard to say how much time I put into these locks, but I can say with some confidence that I worked on it for at least a few hours a day for about a month. Within the last few weeks it's probably been more like three or four hours a day. It probably took upwards of 80 hours or so to get it opened for the first time. Even with all that work, I feel like I'm very far from being able to generalize the skill enough to just walk up to any old 3KS and pop it within a reasonable amount of time. As for the sliders and how to tell where you are with them, it's a pretty complex answer. In the most simple terms, I tap on them to see if they feel tightly bound or ever so slightly loose. This is one of those areas where theory diverges from practicality though, because the sliders are not sprung, making it much more difficult to tell if they jiggle or are tight. Still, it's a very good first indication and I used it a lot on this lock. Peering inside the keyway a visually confirming this was actually easier than doing it by feel. Other things to look for are how deeply or sharply it clicks as you move the sliders around. I found that I could usually get it to a point where the clicks and associated plug turn would be dramatic enough that I could "read" the sliders more easily. For example if I moved one of them, and it had a subtle click, I was pretty sure I was in a false or partial gate. If it snapped sharply, it was indication of a true gate. I would then go on to confirm this with tapping. Hopefully that helps a bit. I may make a video about my approach to this lock and the challenges it presented if there is enough interest.
Thanks for you comprehensive and open answer. You did an amazing job and I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is yearning to hear and see more about the background of picking this lock. I was impressed by the 80h of picking preparation - not that it takes that much time but that you have so much passion to stick to picking it until the final success (which was probably unclear). But then I thought about myself and had to laugh, because I'm actually the same crazy guy spending endless hours of feeling and hearing the feedback of a lock... Keep up the great work and please don't worry about a 15min limit; check out this: support.google.com/youtube/answer/71673?hl=en
My pleasure! I hope my explanation made sense. I totally know what you mean about the time we spend with these locks. For me at least, the time melts away and I'm often shocked at just how long I've spent picking, LOL! I always know it's time for me to take a break when my hands start going to sleep on me. I'm planning to do another video where I talk more about the lock and how I approached it. I've also been talking with +huxleypig69 about the approaches and tools he has used on the 3KS, so I'll probably include a bit about that as well. I'm far from an expert on picking this lock, but I will try to share the bit that I have learned. I always try to add more about technique when I'm picking, but it's hard for my mind to focus on picking and explaining at the same time.
Wow! Man ol man any time I am having trouble getting a lock to open. I just think about your pick or watch a video of you picking. Gives a sense of renewed hope with the chicken scratch I am working on. lmao. Seriously though, This is a very impressive pick and how you make it look so easy is a talent most don't possess.
oh yeah, I forgot to mention something that I felt about the milling in the core and not alowing the core to slide out because the groves cut in the core housing ia very similar to the Emhart core expect in opposite. This one has the milling in the housing and the Emhart has the milling on the core. Very good review of the EVVA lock. Kudos
Very astute observation about the similarity to the Emhart. I'd not thought of it, but they really are very similar! I remember you mentioning in one of your videos that you are working on picking the Emhart. Did I understand that correctly? If so, I'm extremely interested to hear how it's going? I've got one that I'm a little afraid to pick because they are so difficult to get ahold of and I don't want to risk damaging it.
Dude! You are picking tough locks! I have no doubt whatsoever that you can pick any of the locks I have and more. It just takes time, effort and a structured approach. Develop a plan and work through it until the lock opens :)
tumbl3r Thanks, I really appreciate your support. As I really look up to your picking. But yeah I have gotten my little Emhart KIK cylinder to open twice and of course never on camera for one reason or another. lol And now I have removed all the master wafers so it's even harder now. lol But I had an extremely lucky find in a box of manly scrap locks (cabinet and desk locks) But there were a few key finds and one was a beautiful Emhart mortise cylinder with key and the bitting is much easier and I probably could get it easier as well. But I can't bring myself to drill out the chamber plugs. No way!! So I haven't even put a pick in it yet. lol
WOW! That is a super lucky find! I had an eBay alert going for months before I finally saw one pop up. Turns out it was being sold by Mac, LOL. It was a totally fair price, but still pretty expensive given that they are not made anymore an pretty much as commonly seen as unicorns. As you have been picking yours, feel like you are damaging the pins much as you grab onto them a try to turn them? That's really my biggest worry. I think it's totally cool that you've taken on this project! The Corbin Emhart is one of my favorite locks! Please keep us updated on how the project is going :)
My hands shake like that when doing this type of stuff, the doc gave me propranolol, took em for a week, they stopped me shaking but i decided id rather shake and have a beer haha! Great pick Sir!
Just curious with the shaking. Is it due to the physical fatigue of having to keep tension constantly for +6mins or the mental stress of knowing that you have to maintain focus or you risk having to restart? My best bet is a bit of both.
Excellent pick Master 👍🔓🌐 What about 4ks ?))) If you pick 3 ks so four ks you will to pick too 👍🔓 I'm sure 😅 Difficult to pick this brand. But you make it very clear and effectively, Master !!! Good luck 👍
Thanks so much for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Your answer is correct, but that lock was claimed shortly after I published the video by REDEYE Locksport. I usually give away a lock at the end of each video though, so keep an eye out for the next one. Thanks again for watching!
That was so much easier to pick than the EVVA MCS. I’m very impressed with EVVA but sadly their locks can’t be ordered keyed alike to specific keys that you already have :(
Wow. Wild looking and beautiful lock. Great pick. Sure looked like an adrenaline rush. If I tried that my brain would almost certainly explode. LOL Thank you for sharing.
Thanks +Noctis Motus! Yeah, I was actually shocked at how badly I was shaking as I started to gut it. I wanted to keep the intro, pick and gut all within the RUclips 15 min limit, so I was rushing on top of it. At times it looked as if I was having a seizure, LOL!
Wow as always. Also I think peterson sells c clip removers for like 3 dollars in the clearance section right now... If you don't already have one by now anyway....
If you're worried about someone picking that lock, don't be. It's one of the most difficult locks in the world to pick. Nobody is just going to walk up to one of these and pick it. There are only a few of us who have ever managed to do it and that's under laboratory conditions. The 3KS is a fine lock. Nobody is going to be picking it.
Hey bud, would this be called a wafer lock of sorts or no? If not please tell me what this is called. Great picking! I'm so shaky when I open a high security lock and it seems to be how everyone else gets too.
Hey Drew! Thanks for watching man! This is really more of a "slider" lock than a "wafer" style.Admittedly though, the distinction can get a little blurry with locks like the SmartKey system. For me, the hands shaking are a visual indication of what makes picking these locks so much fun... Really exciting and a lot of adrenaline, LOL.
In questo video (e in altre demo) non si vedono il tipo di profilo chiave, il codice seriale per intero, viene utilizzata una testina e non un cilindro intero come esce dalla fabbrica, la testina al momento della manipolazione è rovesciata (quando mai una porta va montata al contrario), e soprattutto 3ks plus ed il suo successore, il 4ks, hanno, ad ogni quarti di giro, il controllo profilo, infatti il test di apertura non è valido perché lo sblocco dei cursori e la rotazione del rotore è meno del quarto di giro. Ad ogni quarto di giro, in un test vero, occorre estrarre il grimaldello ed il tensore e ripartire da zero, finché il test non è fatto secondo questi parametri non è valido. Tutti i clienti che hanno un 3ks o 3ks plus verifichino che quando girano la chiave nel cilindro ad ogni quarto di giro si sente il controllo profilo.
wow, dude, what a lock, and what a great job picking it! very impressed, another to add to your Hi-security play list. keep it up bud, love your videos! and btw i should be making my first video anyday now :D
Thanks Jay! Glad you enjoyed it. This is really one of my favorite locks, and it was great to finally catch it on cam. This one was particularly camera shy.
That was an amazing lock picking video buddy! This is my first time watching your videos and this definitely gets a like and a subscribe from me!! By the way the answer to your riddle is *PIANO*
Thanks Jonathan! I really appreciate your kind words and I'm proud to have earned your subscription! This particular lock was claimed last night by +REDEYE Locksport, but please keep an eye out for giveaways on future videos. I generally try to give something away at the end.
So what do you say about it? Is it an hard lock to pick by "ordinary" Thieves? Would you recommend it on homes? I mean you have to think about the situation of breaking on homes which is stressful from the very idea of it, considering puting it on my flat
It is among the hardest locks to pick in the entire world. Ordinary thieves stand virtually no chance of picking it. If you are considering this lock for your home, I think it would be a very very good choice. This one or the ASSA Twin series are probably the best locks going in my opinion. Stay away from the EVVA MCS. It has a lot of plastic inside it and its construction is far too complex to be a good, reliable lock system.
tumbl3r ASSA series? Its the same company as evva? Sorry i just heard about those locks today since my parents flat just broke in yesterday and im looking for a good lock. The guy that recommended evva locks have a series of the same locks like this one but this is the most expansive, can you recommend another from the same series so i can ask him? I guess he have an economical interest to sell me the most expansive one
EVVA is a company that is separate from the large ASSA Abloy conglomerate. It's actually noteworthy that they are not owned by ASSA Abloy since nearly every high security lock maker is. Anyhow, that's not really important for you and your decision making. Suffice to say that you generally get what you pay for in terms of locks. If your locksmith is suggesting you buy EVVA 3KS locks, it's a good recommendation. They are good locks that will keep your property safe. They are as good, and probably almost exactly as expensive as ASSA Twin locks, which use a different design. Often locksmiths will not cary all types of locks, so it's possible and even likely that your locksmith works with EVVA locks but not ASSA locks. This is fine and totally normal. Again, if he is selling EVVA 3KS or 4KS locks, don't think twice about buying them. They are among the best locks on Earth. I do suggest staying away from the MCS line from EVVA because of the amount of plastic inside the core and the overall complexity of the design. EVVVA makes a few different lines of locks (MCS, 3/4KS, ICS,etc). I believe the best lock they make is the 3KS (or 4KS). The 4KS is nearly identical to the 3KS, so don't worry too much about which one you go with. Does this help? The world of high-security locks is complicate and confusing. I've picked most of them, and I can honestly say that this lock (the EVVA 3KS) was one of the most difficult. It took me months to learn how to do it. A common thief has zero chance of doing it, realistically.
tumbl3r wow this is very helpful! Im from israel we have a local brand that sells doors and locks which are old generation apparently. Anyway not sure they sell every brand here but he did recommended this saying it take over 40 minutes to pick this one if he is really good and he probably will give up much faster. Thank again for your help
Ok i asked the guy with the locks, he have also FPS and ICS, the FPS is the cheapest the ICS is more expansive and the 3ks is more, of the other two what would you say about them if im low in cash? Thank u
Thanks Larry! I'm glad you enjoyed my video. EVVA is a great company that makes some wonderful locks. Check out the EVVA MCS if you really want your mind blown.
Man, that adrenaline dump is massive! Has to make it hard to work. Maybe take a break between pick and gut? BTW, you're a piano. *Edit: always beaten to the punch lol!
Yea! That really was quite an adrenaline dump! It actually surprised me how much it affected me. I was rushing to keep it all in one take within the time limit so I think that compounded things. With these ultra hi-sec locks, you kinda have to pick and gut them all in one continuous take or there are some out there who will accuse you of cheating. I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen, but I hear there are some people who will modify the lock to make it easier to pick and then pick it on camera without gutting it. Not sure what they're trying to accomplish, but I guess its something that happens :/
Thanks man! I was really happy to catch this one on cam! That adrenaline rush is what makes it all worth it for me, but I must admit I was surprised at just how much my hands were shaking on this one. I was also nervous about gutting it because there are so many parts.
Thanks! I'm going to hang onto it for now. I am far from learning all its secrets, and I think spending more time with it would do me good in terms of learning to generalize what I have learned from this lock to others like it. I'll let you know though.
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Great job... never seen the insides before, which was great also. Thanks for sharing.
It's different, that's for sure! Pretty logical layout really, but there is so much milling in that core it's a little intimidating at first. Not having most things spring loaded helped a lot.
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haha your adrenaline was rushing after you picked it. mine would be too if i picked that sucker on camera. good job
Dear God man! There were 2 things running through my head for the whole gutting. 1. Whoever designs these has absolutely found their calling in life! 2. Those damn shaking hands! But only because I can feel your pain, my friend! Stupid adrenaline! hehe And the close up with the camera just magnifies it. First vid of yours that I've watched, & def not the last. Congrats & well done!
Thanks man! I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! The shaking hands and adrenaline dump are a big part of the fun for me. The excitement makes it all worthwhile. Hopefully it shares a little of how I'm feeling with my friends as well :)
tumbl3r Yeah, something that I have always found kinda funny/weird is that whenever you're working on a project, game, or challenge & we'll use picking locks for this example, your hands & everything else will be steady like a rock even though that is when the adrenaline is actually pumping. But as soon as you're done picking the lock, the second you stop concentrating is when the shaking instantly starts & will continue at least twice as long as it took to pick the lock! ("You" was a general term & not you specifically.) You are right though, the shaking really does convey your adrenaline & excitement a lot more to those of us watching.
That's very well said. I have found the same thing. I think this lock was actually the first one where I started getting that rush before I opened it. The reason was that this was the very first take on the camera and I assumed I'd not be able to get it so quickly. When I realized I was making progress and the lock was nearly going to open, I got really excited. It all just intensified after the plug turned. LOL :)
Well the next time that happens gently set the lock down in frame, stand up, then start throwing your picks, vice, etc... while screaming "Yeah Bitches!" Then go out for a beer & a smoke before you dissect it! LOL Just doooooon't get too ambitious & start flipping the table over! 😉😆
Beta-blockers also help against shaky hands. its not ideal but it may work if it causes you trouble in making videos.
Most doc's will give a script if you ask for one since its pretty safe and cant be used by junks.
I've watched quite a few videos from the LockPickingLaywer, but this is in a league of its own. Well done and congrats!
A master! I've changed my locks to EVVA and was told its the best locks, i asked the lockpicker how hard its to lockpick it, he told me its not possible, i was really sceptical about this statement. Im gonna send him a link to this vid, nothing is impossible. Great job!
Well the key is how much time is required to defeat and how many average criminals are capable of defeating the lock. It will take way too much time and by then cops have arrived.
I love the shaking hands, Shows just how much pride you put into your craft. man this is very impressive. One of only a few people that can tackle this lock. Ive got well over 20 hours and nothing, not even And not even a false set. What a very mean lock. You man it look like childsplay, nice video sir -LSG
DUDE! I was getting nervous just watching you disassemble that! You shake like a criminal!!
A shot of whiskey before that lock might have been a good plan!!
Great job though Bill. Very impressive picking!!
Evva just makes NASTY locks. I wouldn't even dream of attempting to pick. Good on you for toughing it out.
Goodness, I could feel ur excitement after picking it. This was amazing. And the lock is really a piece of art. Cheers
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Amazing pick dude! That's extremely impressive.
Thanks very much, Artemis! Appreciate the kind words!
9:45 I think i can hear your heart beat!!! The rush of Adrenaline you got is just crazy!!! Great picking!
Great pick man. Very impressive. When im picking high security locks i end up having to have a stiff drink first to keep my hands from shaking lol. Ive accidentally overset pins because i got too jittery.
Wow! You have videos of you successfully picking the least likely to be picked locks. In other words, you have "The rest of the locks" covered. Amazing work.
Nice! Black belt! I love how your hands shake. It shows passion for the sport:) well done sir!
I don't know if it was anxiety or adrenaline but like a true Scout you kept going. incredibly nice job.! awesome.!!!
haha, I could FEEL the adrenaline in your voice and see it in your hands. congrats man that is one hell of a pick.
absolutely beautiful work! with gutting it on cam .. amazing. I wish that I could have half of your skills here! I love this video!!
Thank you very much for your kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. These days, lots of folks seem to be picking this lock, but back then it seemed darn near impossible to me. It sure was thrilling to get it open on camera! Thanks again for watching and I'm happy you enjoyed my video :)
I'm sure someone else answered the riddle, but I'm going to guess the answer is a piano. Very nice job picking a rather difficult lock. Respect.
Wow, my apparent complex uses these, and this definitely makes me sleep better at night! Great job!
Just got my hands on one of these. Nice to see it gutted. I kind of had the idea of what was going on but not quite grasping it. Thanks
Wow...what a good job sir, just looking at it made me shake!! Excellent.
Who needs pick gun with hand shaking like that ! :-D
Good job !
Wow. That's a impressive level of picking. I have made a Vid in June about a cutaway of those locks. Thanks for gutting and showing the inside.
Thanks +dirk! I saw your cutaway vid on this lock, and it is absolutely beautiful! Like all of your videos really, it was just beautiful! I actually learned a lot about this lock from that video.
Thank you for your kind words. Your picking of this lock is really fantastic. While my research about this lock I found not so much about picking of it. Again great job.
I've got these on the house and garage (a keyed-alike set of four, soon to be expanded to six). I believe they read the key four times in a full rotation, so if you're picking it in a real-world scenario (i.e. a door) you'd pick it, but for every 90 degrees the key needs to rotate before the mechanism opens you'd have to pick it again.
Twice actually. The bottom bar groove at 90 degrees is not deep enough to disengage the sliders from he sidebar so the combination cannot really be scrambled at those points. It can be scrambled at the 180 degree points, but it's usually not because the sliders are not spring loaded. They tend to stay where they are after picking so long as you're careful not to disturb them.
With a bit of care you can open the lock on a door with one picking. That doesn't mean the picking is easy though. It is not.
Interesting... arrived at this video because I was intrigued by the strange looking key at my workplace (public building, Tyrol, Austria). Can feel pretty secure about the locks there then, right?
hell yeah great video! that adrenaline rush after picking a tough lock in front of people is so relatable, hah! my hands shook like that after picking my first duracam in front of my friend.
EVVA is a developer and manufacturer of mechanical and electronic access systems. EVVA was founded in Vienna in 1919 and has been a family business ever since. Research, development, production and export to all parts of the world are still carried out at the company headquarters in Vienna. EVVA is not just a manufacturer of security products, EVVA is also a reliable contact partner for its partners and customers in all security matters.
Very impressive work bud. Kudos. Can't be many pick videos of this lock.
Thanks +Papa Gleb! Yeah, not too many vids out there. I know Farmer Freak did one along with one or two others. It's a pretty darn tough lock!
Is there any lock that can't be picked?
Certainly there are some that haven't been picked. Although it's hard to imagine one that can't. I think something like the IKON Verso with a CLIQ in it would be about the closest thing I can think of to pick-proof.
Thanks, I appreciate your answer
Now the challenge is putting it back together.
Impressive work on that lock! And don't mind the handshake, we all get a rush sometimes ^_^
oh my god the shaking hands😂 adrenaline rush like a boss😄 nice pick and vid bro!
Hahaha... Yeah, this one had me shaking like a leaf! The adrenaline dump is part of what makes this stuff so fun! All that work culminating in that one second it takes the plug to turn. Just love it! It's even more pronounced for me when the camera is rolling :)
tumbl3r just started picking finally and i got the same when i finally spp my titalium 80/50 the other day, that last pin and the sound of the schackle spring open is addicting af😊 same as landing a big fish lol
Amazing picking - fantastic to see that lock picked in such a short time. How can you distinguish between false an true gates. How long did you try until it first opened? Cheers and thanks for that great video.
Thanks man! It's always hard to say how much time I put into these locks, but I can say with some confidence that I worked on it for at least a few hours a day for about a month. Within the last few weeks it's probably been more like three or four hours a day. It probably took upwards of 80 hours or so to get it opened for the first time. Even with all that work, I feel like I'm very far from being able to generalize the skill enough to just walk up to any old 3KS and pop it within a reasonable amount of time.
As for the sliders and how to tell where you are with them, it's a pretty complex answer. In the most simple terms, I tap on them to see if they feel tightly bound or ever so slightly loose. This is one of those areas where theory diverges from practicality though, because the sliders are not sprung, making it much more difficult to tell if they jiggle or are tight. Still, it's a very good first indication and I used it a lot on this lock. Peering inside the keyway a visually confirming this was actually easier than doing it by feel. Other things to look for are how deeply or sharply it clicks as you move the sliders around. I found that I could usually get it to a point where the clicks and associated plug turn would be dramatic enough that I could "read" the sliders more easily. For example if I moved one of them, and it had a subtle click, I was pretty sure I was in a false or partial gate. If it snapped sharply, it was indication of a true gate. I would then go on to confirm this with tapping.
Hopefully that helps a bit. I may make a video about my approach to this lock and the challenges it presented if there is enough interest.
Thanks for you comprehensive and open answer. You did an amazing job and I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is yearning to hear and see more about the background of picking this lock.
I was impressed by the 80h of picking preparation - not that it takes that much time but that you have so much passion to stick to picking it until the final success (which was probably unclear). But then I thought about myself and had to laugh, because I'm actually the same crazy guy spending endless hours of feeling and hearing the feedback of a lock... Keep up the great work and please don't worry about a 15min limit; check out this: support.google.com/youtube/answer/71673?hl=en
I'll put my hand up to register interest in seeing that. Not that I will ever see one of these but I think there will something to learn still.
My pleasure! I hope my explanation made sense. I totally know what you mean about the time we spend with these locks. For me at least, the time melts away and I'm often shocked at just how long I've spent picking, LOL! I always know it's time for me to take a break when my hands start going to sleep on me. I'm planning to do another video where I talk more about the lock and how I approached it. I've also been talking with +huxleypig69 about the approaches and tools he has used on the 3KS, so I'll probably include a bit about that as well. I'm far from an expert on picking this lock, but I will try to share the bit that I have learned. I always try to add more about technique when I'm picking, but it's hard for my mind to focus on picking and explaining at the same time.
What cylinder brand would you recommend using on a front home of a flat?
Does it really require that much tension?
No problem Sir! I just had to share my thoughts, OCD! Lol.
Love your channel! Keep up the good work my friend!
Which cylinder would you recommend for use? One extremely difficult to pick
i've watched tons of your videos and never noticed shakey hands. hope your health was okay in this one
Your shaking hands made me so nervous that I spilled my coffee, literally... 🙂
What's the most difficult lock to pick?
That was a great pick, that lock looks like it took a lot of concentration good job. Congrats RedEye I'm a little late.
Thanks Bobby! Yeah, I was working up to this pick for almost three weeks. It had really been taking pretty much all of my lock picking focus.
+tumbl3r I'll bet, it looked like you were exhausted after that one. Again great job.
Do you know if Evva 4ks is harder to pick than 3ks?
Wow!
Man ol man any time I am having trouble getting a lock to open. I just think about your pick or watch a video of you picking. Gives a sense of renewed hope with the chicken scratch I am working on. lmao.
Seriously though, This is a very impressive pick and how you make it look so easy is a talent most don't possess.
oh yeah, I forgot to mention something that I felt about the milling in the core and not alowing the core to slide out because the groves cut in the core housing ia very similar to the Emhart core expect in opposite. This one has the milling in the housing and the Emhart has the milling on the core.
Very good review of the EVVA lock.
Kudos
Very astute observation about the similarity to the Emhart. I'd not thought of it, but they really are very similar! I remember you mentioning in one of your videos that you are working on picking the Emhart. Did I understand that correctly? If so, I'm extremely interested to hear how it's going? I've got one that I'm a little afraid to pick because they are so difficult to get ahold of and I don't want to risk damaging it.
Dude! You are picking tough locks! I have no doubt whatsoever that you can pick any of the locks I have and more. It just takes time, effort and a structured approach. Develop a plan and work through it until the lock opens :)
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Thanks, I really appreciate your support. As I really look up to your picking.
But yeah I have gotten my little Emhart KIK cylinder to open twice and of course never on camera for one reason or another. lol And now I have removed all the master wafers so it's even harder now. lol
But I had an extremely lucky find in a box of manly scrap locks (cabinet and desk locks) But there were a few key finds and one was a beautiful Emhart mortise cylinder with key and the bitting is much easier and I probably could get it easier as well. But I can't bring myself to drill out the chamber plugs. No way!! So I haven't even put a pick in it yet. lol
WOW! That is a super lucky find! I had an eBay alert going for months before I finally saw one pop up. Turns out it was being sold by Mac, LOL. It was a totally fair price, but still pretty expensive given that they are not made anymore an pretty much as commonly seen as unicorns. As you have been picking yours, feel like you are damaging the pins much as you grab onto them a try to turn them? That's really my biggest worry. I think it's totally cool that you've taken on this project! The Corbin Emhart is one of my favorite locks! Please keep us updated on how the project is going :)
Much better pickers than me have said it already, but man that was a brilliant pick!
Is this better then DOM RS 8 VDS VDS BZ !? Thanks
My hands shake like that when doing this type of stuff, the doc gave me propranolol, took em for a week, they stopped me shaking but i decided id rather shake and have a beer haha! Great pick Sir!
Just curious with the shaking. Is it due to the physical fatigue of having to keep tension constantly for +6mins or the mental stress of knowing that you have to maintain focus or you risk having to restart? My best bet is a bit of both.
Excellent pick Master 👍🔓🌐
What about 4ks ?)))
If you pick 3 ks so four ks you will to pick too 👍🔓
I'm sure 😅
Difficult to pick this brand.
But you make it very clear and effectively, Master !!!
Good luck 👍
Should try picking the Godrej - Herculock Plus ....it has a similar core.
embryonic core of sloppy pancake waffle
wow! I mean really man, wow! thanks for taking the time and showing us that mad skill! piano right?
Thanks so much for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Your answer is correct, but that lock was claimed shortly after I published the video by REDEYE Locksport. I usually give away a lock at the end of each video though, so keep an eye out for the next one. Thanks again for watching!
we have these locks at home. after seeing this i think it‘s safe to share this haha
I'm really impressed. That looks really difficult. Nice picking! Piano.
Thanks +freakedu! It was a pretty tricky pick for sure! You're right on with the riddle, but +REDEYE Locksport beat you to it last night.
That was so much easier to pick than the EVVA MCS. I’m very impressed with EVVA but sadly their locks can’t be ordered keyed alike to specific keys that you already have :(
Great video. Looking forward to the next.
Wow. Wild looking and beautiful lock. Great pick. Sure looked like an adrenaline rush. If I tried that my brain would almost certainly explode. LOL Thank you for sharing.
Thanks +Noctis Motus! Yeah, I was actually shocked at how badly I was shaking as I started to gut it. I wanted to keep the intro, pick and gut all within the RUclips 15 min limit, so I was rushing on top of it. At times it looked as if I was having a seizure, LOL!
Good god, as if the task wasn't crazy enough as it was. LOL Did you dance round the room like a madman afterwards? I would have. :)
Wow as always. Also I think peterson sells c clip removers for like 3 dollars in the clearance section right now... If you don't already have one by now anyway....
Great video, thanks for shaking!
Hahaha... I see what you did there!
My parents house has an EVVA 3KS Plus in the front door and you've just convinced me of of completing a household insurance.
If you're worried about someone picking that lock, don't be. It's one of the most difficult locks in the world to pick. Nobody is just going to walk up to one of these and pick it. There are only a few of us who have ever managed to do it and that's under laboratory conditions. The 3KS is a fine lock. Nobody is going to be picking it.
I literally have NEVER seen someone hands shake like that for no reason
Hey bud, would this be called a wafer lock of sorts or no? If not please tell me what this is called. Great picking! I'm so shaky when I open a high security lock and it seems to be how everyone else gets too.
Hey Drew! Thanks for watching man! This is really more of a "slider" lock than a "wafer" style.Admittedly though, the distinction can get a little blurry with locks like the SmartKey system. For me, the hands shaking are a visual indication of what makes picking these locks so much fun... Really exciting and a lot of adrenaline, LOL.
tumbl3r I agree with you that when you spp a high security lock the movement of the core triggers adrenaline big time. I am in love with that feeling.
nice pick and beautiful lock
Thanks +Zombie Lock! I was really glad to catch this one on cam. It was probably the most camera shy lock I've ever picked.
Impressive picking skills. Thanks for great video.
Thanks Mike! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Checked out your channel too and grabbed a sub. Looks like you have some great stuff up there.
In questo video (e in altre demo) non si vedono il tipo di profilo chiave, il codice seriale per intero, viene utilizzata una testina e non un cilindro intero come esce dalla fabbrica, la testina al momento della manipolazione è rovesciata (quando mai una porta va montata al contrario), e soprattutto 3ks plus ed il suo successore, il 4ks, hanno, ad ogni quarti di giro, il controllo profilo, infatti il test di apertura non è valido perché lo sblocco dei cursori e la rotazione del rotore è meno del quarto di giro. Ad ogni quarto di giro, in un test vero, occorre estrarre il grimaldello ed il tensore e ripartire da zero, finché il test non è fatto secondo questi parametri non è valido. Tutti i clienti che hanno un 3ks o 3ks plus verifichino che quando girano la chiave nel cilindro ad ogni quarto di giro si sente il controllo profilo.
Grande
Grandissimo
Awesome job!
AWESOME PICKING!! Amazing lock...Very cool :-)
Thanks dude! I really enjoyed this one. I've always loved this lock, and it feels good to have added it to the collection of the conquered.
👏 great picking !
this is the lock that the courthouse I work at uses for all rooms
Very complex mechanism into. One more idea to get more secure the locks.
Until now, the only lock unpicked is Yuema 750 series.
Great picking man! Tough lock to pick.
Thanks dude! This one played mind games on me for sure. I'm really interested to learn more about the toothed pick you use on this lock.
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I sent you a message over on Keypicking mate. It is pretty simple but could be calibrated so you know which slider you are on too.
It is simple, but the most brilliant designs usually are. I really like your design. I'm going to make one up and give it a go. Thanks a million!
Are you a Locksmith, or strate out picker ? You are Friggin incredible picker.
Way to go. Your video is very entertaining.
I'm not a locksmith. Just a guy who enjoys these little puzzles called locks. Thank you for watching and I'm happy you enjoyed.
I mixed all the sliders up gutting mine! Took 2 hours of guess and check to get them back in the correct spots.
Butt,,, you didn't pick yours ,,right?
@@rollbot I did, why wouldn't I?
A typewriter?
great pick.So much concentration
Sure thing man! Glad you enjoyed it. This one really did take it out of me.
wow, dude, what a lock, and what a great job picking it! very impressed, another to add to your Hi-security play list. keep it up bud, love your videos! and btw i should be making my first video anyday now :D
Thanks Jay! Glad you enjoyed it. This is really one of my favorite locks, and it was great to finally catch it on cam. This one was particularly camera shy.
Je peut trouver ce cylindre chez un serrurier ?
Stupid fucking question I know but is this easier or harder than your standard residential wafer style kwikset smartkey gen 3 ?
Zvanicni sajt ili kontakt?
That is awesome!
That was an amazing lock picking video buddy! This is my first time watching your videos and this definitely gets a like and a subscribe from me!! By the way the answer to your riddle is *PIANO*
Thanks Jonathan! I really appreciate your kind words and I'm proud to have earned your subscription! This particular lock was claimed last night by +REDEYE Locksport, but please keep an eye out for giveaways on future videos. I generally try to give something away at the end.
Jonathan, I thought piano, but mine has a lock on the lid, and casters, not actually feet, did he ever confirm the answer?
amazing pick buddy well done *****
Thanks Tristan! Appreciate the kind words man!
So what do you say about it? Is it an hard lock to pick by "ordinary" Thieves? Would you recommend it on homes? I mean you have to think about the situation of breaking on homes which is stressful from the very idea of it, considering puting it on my flat
It is among the hardest locks to pick in the entire world. Ordinary thieves stand virtually no chance of picking it. If you are considering this lock for your home, I think it would be a very very good choice. This one or the ASSA Twin series are probably the best locks going in my opinion. Stay away from the EVVA MCS. It has a lot of plastic inside it and its construction is far too complex to be a good, reliable lock system.
tumbl3r ASSA series? Its the same company as evva? Sorry i just heard about those locks today since my parents flat just broke in yesterday and im looking for a good lock. The guy that recommended evva locks have a series of the same locks like this one but this is the most expansive, can you recommend another from the same series so i can ask him? I guess he have an economical interest to sell me the most expansive one
EVVA is a company that is separate from the large ASSA Abloy conglomerate. It's actually noteworthy that they are not owned by ASSA Abloy since nearly every high security lock maker is. Anyhow, that's not really important for you and your decision making. Suffice to say that you generally get what you pay for in terms of locks. If your locksmith is suggesting you buy EVVA 3KS locks, it's a good recommendation. They are good locks that will keep your property safe. They are as good, and probably almost exactly as expensive as ASSA Twin locks, which use a different design. Often locksmiths will not cary all types of locks, so it's possible and even likely that your locksmith works with EVVA locks but not ASSA locks. This is fine and totally normal. Again, if he is selling EVVA 3KS or 4KS locks, don't think twice about buying them. They are among the best locks on Earth.
I do suggest staying away from the MCS line from EVVA because of the amount of plastic inside the core and the overall complexity of the design. EVVVA makes a few different lines of locks (MCS, 3/4KS, ICS,etc). I believe the best lock they make is the 3KS (or 4KS). The 4KS is nearly identical to the 3KS, so don't worry too much about which one you go with. Does this help? The world of high-security locks is complicate and confusing. I've picked most of them, and I can honestly say that this lock (the EVVA 3KS) was one of the most difficult. It took me months to learn how to do it. A common thief has zero chance of doing it, realistically.
tumbl3r wow this is very helpful! Im from israel we have a local brand that sells doors and locks which are old generation apparently. Anyway not sure they sell every brand here but he did recommended this saying it take over 40 minutes to pick this one if he is really good and he probably will give up much faster.
Thank again for your help
Ok i asked the guy with the locks, he have also FPS and ICS, the FPS is the cheapest the ICS is more expansive and the 3ks is more, of the other two what would you say about them if im low in cash? Thank u
11:00 Those pins are nuts!!
great video.i see that was one of easy ones.lol im going to research this one.great picking. 😎
Thanks Larry! I'm glad you enjoyed my video. EVVA is a great company that makes some wonderful locks. Check out the EVVA MCS if you really want your mind blown.
piano? nice picking.
Piano is right, but that lock was claimed a while back. Keep an eye out for new videos. I usually give away a challenge lock at the end of each one.
ok, thankyou for the reply. appreciate it.
That was fucking awesome man!!!!!
Wow very nice. Every once in awhile I go on Security Snobs (I think that's the name) and check their EVVA cutaway set they have for $1,300 and drool.
You and me both, my friend. You and me both! That is a really sweet setup, but the price is pretty astronomical!
Great video mate. I’ve just picked one up and thought I’d come looking for info before even attempting it 👍🇬🇧🥊
Awesome! Have fun with it... They are really cool locks I think.
Exiting piece of lock
You ok dude? hands shakin like you got hypothermia
It's like a dentist cleaning the cavity.
Man, that adrenaline dump is massive! Has to make it hard to work. Maybe take a break between pick and gut?
BTW, you're a piano.
*Edit: always beaten to the punch lol!
Yea! That really was quite an adrenaline dump! It actually surprised me how much it affected me. I was rushing to keep it all in one take within the time limit so I think that compounded things. With these ultra hi-sec locks, you kinda have to pick and gut them all in one continuous take or there are some out there who will accuse you of cheating. I'm not sure I've ever seen it happen, but I hear there are some people who will modify the lock to make it easier to pick and then pick it on camera without gutting it. Not sure what they're trying to accomplish, but I guess its something that happens :/
Seriously, you need a dram ready to go for between pick and gut on a lock like this.
Impressive Piano
You smashed it sir.⭐️🎉🍻😎👍👍👍😘
Btw great gutting especially as the adrenaline coursing through your body makes it harder🤔😉😯😯
Thanks man! I was really happy to catch this one on cam! That adrenaline rush is what makes it all worth it for me, but I must admit I was surprised at just how much my hands were shaking on this one. I was also nervous about gutting it because there are so many parts.
EPIC PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUPER.
oh... i was considering this lock, but seeing a veteran with shaky hands pick it easily...
If you like this lock buy it! There are only a few of us who are able to pick it. It's a very good lock.
@@tumbl3r thanks for the confirmation!
tomorrow I'll get a quote also for the 4KS
great picking. if ever want to trade it. I give you a MT5 with keys and card. once again great job
Thanks! I'm going to hang onto it for now. I am far from learning all its secrets, and I think spending more time with it would do me good in terms of learning to generalize what I have learned from this lock to others like it. I'll let you know though.