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We are one ummah. A Muslim is next of kin to another Muslim. Al-Nu’man ibn Bashir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.” We have each others' back, no matter what.
One of the best acts of ibadah that Muslim performs and many overlook is Thinking positively of Allah is meant Allah will respond when offering supplication (du‘aa’); thinking positively that He will accept one’s repentance when repenting; thinking positively that He will forgive when seeking His forgiveness; thinking positively that He will accept good deeds when doing them according to the prescribed conditions, believing strongly that His promise is true and His grace is abundant. "One day your actions will visit you, so don't be surprised when you see them." Your soul is a completed novel, yet you spend your time reading other people & wonder why you still haven’t found yourself. Happiness was asked: where do you live? It replied: in the hearts of those content with Allaah’s decree
I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1 :33) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Abu Dawud 4390) Murdered those who insulted him (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Quran 2:194) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Quran 33:50) Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) Permitted stealing from unbelievers.(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) Murdered those who insulted him.(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him"(Quran 2:194) Ordered the murder of women.(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."(Quran 9:123) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) Killed captives taken in battle.(Ibn Ishaq 451) Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.(Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24) "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"(Quran 8:39) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man(al-Tabari 1440) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam.(Bukhari 47:743) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship(Quran 4:102) Muhammed Advocated crucifying others.(Quran 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
I don’t need to discredit that which I don’t believe in. If what I’m arguing against, I truly believe is bad for you and for your soul, instead of trying to stop you, I’d rather let you make the mistake and learn from it and welcome you back with open arms whenever you do finally awaken to the truth. I don’t have to discredit you, people learning by experience is doing it all for me.. I don’t need to say a single word
My father married a second wife when I was like 7 (didn't last long) I have to say the house was in shambles and my mother (his first wife) was very distraught and was in tears for the first few days. (parents were only like 29 or 30 at the time) There are a few reasons why my mother was in such a state. First, my father was not giving her, her rights, second he was not providing enough for his first family, and lastly (just to name a few) he brought her (his second wife) into our already cramped, tiny house and converted the one extra room we had on the farthest part of the house (which was used as the "men section" when we had visitors) into her room. I would imagine that a woman would be very proud of her home and not be happy to have another woman intrude. To make that worse, there was a couple we knew who divorced, and the mother abandoned her daughters and left islam (happened a few times with people we knew) and the father went off to another country to marry a new wife to be a "new mommy" for his girls, he left his daughters with us meanwhile. This lasted for about a month until my father and his second wife found a separate apartment for them and it was only fit for the other two girls to go live over there. Tiny, cramped house that went from an already large 7 head family, to 10 in a matter of days, lol. A man with a big family and no money should not be marrying a second wife and should definitely have planned a bit better before marrying his first. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, but a weakness everyone can experience at some point is definitely one of falling in love, so I do not blame my parents for marrying. My point; in todays time, in this westernized culture that we live in, very few men can actually manage to practice polygamy and even fewer can treat his wives equitably. As far as I know, my father divorced her about 6 or 7 years into that marriage (or she died, because my dad would never really tell us much and was very vague) My parents also divorced after about 25 years of marriage. My mother worked full time and part time to make ends meet, because my father thought it fit to go to Thailand. Wa Allah hu'alam. May all forgive us our sins and protect us from the whispers of the shaitaan. Ameen. Edit: removed the part about Thailand.
I am sorry for what your father did to you, your siblings and your mother. This actually happens a lot in Arab/Desi culture, and almost always they blame it on Islam and call it “Sunnah” or that it’s perfectly halal. Mohamed PBUH said to be good to the wives and daughters, so that doesn’t mean going to break their heart by marrying a 1-3 women for your own views and desires. Basically abusing the privilege. Marriage is a commitment, and HUGE responsibility. if you know you aren’t ready for this commitment, do not waste anyones time. MashAllah Allahummabarik to your mother for staying strong through it all and being there for you guys. I wish you all well and justice be served. Women these days are seeing the wrong through what men call right. And Allah knows best.
This is why God of the bible says a man and a woman leave their parents and become one!!!!! Yes, just one, to love and honour each other above all others.
@@bygrace24 I mean the Bible also says that its the woman's fault that Adam ate from the tree. With all due respect, Muslims have the Quran and do not value the words of the Bible as we believe that the true words of Jesus (pbuh) have been misunderstood and corrupted.
@@tunakpreston8240 please show me how they were corrupted? I'm sure you will find no evidence. This is something Muslim scholars like to say but there is no evidence of it having been corrupted at all throughout the ages.
@@tunakpreston8240 Muslims are told to value the Torah and the gospels. Mohamed even used the Torah to judge once, he put the Torah on the judgement seat and said there was light in there.
The opening itself was based off a misunderstanding. The sister meant that if a woman cheats then she's shamed (as she should in my opinion) and that if a man cheats then he gets married to the mistress "as a cover up" which taints the polygyny.
If man cheats then he is also wrong. This is simple to understand. I think Mohammed hijab does not claim this notion that if a man cheats he is not equally wrongly compared to women. Both have done sin. But if man marry 2nd time he is doing a sunnah!
Sufyan Ibn ‘Ayyinah said: “Having numerous wives is not (indicative of love)of the world because ‘Ali Ibn Abi Talib was the most ascetic of the companions of the Prophet and yet he had four wives and seventeen concubines.”
@@Wabbelpaddel at least better that killing litteraly all of the captives like America. They would probably kill the whole population of countries if they could just for oil. Your phrasing tells a lot about your personality.
very true. I know a brother who used to attend jumuah and then one day I found out his Christian with a Christian name and I thought he bacame murtad but when I asked him about it he said his mom is Christian and his father is Muslim but that he was always Christian and attended church on sundays. our young brothers don't think long term consequences unfortunately.
Why do people forget the same is true about Muslim women? It's literally in the same verse. "And permissible for you in marriage are chaste believing women as well as chaste women of those given the Scripture before you" [5:5]
@@uz327 because Muslim women are chaste by default and marriage to them is permissible by default, non Muslim women are an exception and chastity is a condition to marry them, while in the Muslim women case it is not a condition in the sense than the man does not ask about it , because chastity is presupposed . If he found out that she was not chaste then there would be different courses to choose from according to the case.
@@petboy5839 and incase you want to divorce her you risk loosing your relationship with your releatives. Your uncle or aunt most likely won't see you the same as before cause you divorced their daughter
@@johncharles4146 Even if your grandma call you and you both yes it's not a big deal lol. Anyway, I know a lot of Muslims are influence either from their non Muslim background or influence by non Muslims. They're judging right or wrong by the standards of non Muslims. But, if you look at the royal family they're completely different from what regular non Muslim society is preaching. They're marrying their cousins all the time.
Allah might punish him for twisting quran. Allah forbade secret marriage in the quran, and Allah gave the woman the right to divorce when she fears indifference in the quran(which she can only do if she knows about the second wife).
@@TatiSahne Sis where in the video do you feel he twisted something and also Where in the Quran does it say that explicitly regarding secret marriages and being allowed to divorce for indifference?
Appreciate your logical, rational response to this topic which is highly, highly needed. Would be great if you and Honest Tea talk agree to have a discussion about this.
Clarifying the thinking and removing the confusion. Jazakallahu khayra ustathna الغالي. Alhamdilulah for those who are able to make aqeeda clearer in this time of conflicting voices and mis/information.
From All your presentations on matters of deen, this one was for me was the best. Very insightful well said and very clear. You dissect the issue vey well. May Allah reward you.
I think you might be misunderstanding what she meant. I think she was saying, if a woman cheated on her husband, she will be blamed and written off (which is to be expected), but on the other hand, if a man cheated, he can just cover it up by marrying the woman she cheated with on the wife, and nobody will say a word (which is hypocritical). I might be completely wrong, but this is what I understood from the short clip you posted of her.
No, she clearly is equating halal marriage to a second wife to a woman actually cheating. She said nothing about a married man having relations with a woman without marriage. Let’s stop making excuses for this sister. She was obviously hurt and was probably involved in a polygynous marriage.
A man cheats he cannot cover it up by marrying he's adultery woman that doesn't make sense at all he is cheating on his wife if she doesn't forgive him he is getting sentence on earth and the afterlife
my ex cheated n married again while i was with him, he had an affair n then did nikkah with her, i was a God conscious woman he abused me physically emotionally n mentally, not only did it break my heart my house but my soul, i went through a spiritual awakening , from becoming hopeless to being happy now i am grateful to my LORD alone for helping me in this test, i see the world differently now, im single mum of 3 i definitely cant trust men again bcz of this deep rooted trust issues now, i do frown on men marrying twice in this day n age because i know taking care of one with her full rights is hard enough without bringing another one,may Allah swt ease any womans pain who was unjustly dealt with ignorance n selfish desires, ameen thuma ameen🙏
women themselves are selfish and cannot come to terms that Allah has made it Legal for a man to marry 4 times, If a man can give 4 wives their full rights then no woman has the right to speak against it, your statement of "taking care of one with her full rights is hard enough" is a judgmental statement you cannot judge all men and say that all men are incapable of marrying 4 times, sometimes women themselves demand more from their man and envy other wives and cannot come to terms that her man is getting shared with another woman.
@@teec. Bro she just told you Believe in Allah IS what got her through the pain she went and is going through.And you're saying to her leave the only thing that's comforting you because I'm an internet seer and see you being happier when you do (Without even addressing the more important truth or falsehood of a religion).
A wife not aware of her hasband's another wife will not know if she is being treated equally or not. To exercise her right to demand fair treatment she must have knowledge about the other wife's condition. She cannot make any informed decision if she is being depreived of the information needed to make such decision. That is a violation of right.
@@JSdeen87 Hindering someone from the information necessary to claim a right is a violation of right itself. It doesn't matter if any right is being violated or not,barring information to make that assessment is a violation of right. If you have a basic understanding how mutual agreements and contracts work you understand this too. That's why every social media app has terms of services.
@@JSdeen87 Hindering someone from the information necessary to claim a right is a violation of right itself. It doesn't matter if any right is being violated or not,barring information to make that assessment is a violation of right. If you have a basic understanding how mutual agreements and contracts work you understand this too. That's why every social media app has terms of services.
@@windowview8240 The statements you came up with are invalid, a man does not require any form of consent/permission whatsoever from anybody to re marry if he wishes to, because that’s his right to even begin with. He can engage in it in his own discretion if he wishes to. The right for a woman to know is not compulsory but a man could communicate this after his second, third or fourth engagement, its all up to him since he is the manager of his relationships. Hope that helps.
imo talking directly with the sisters would be a better way of addressing them rather than in their absence and uploading publicly. I think these videos just fan flames or raise tensions whereas a better opportunity for naseeha or correction has been skipped.
When responding to something in the public domain, its is necessary to address it in the public domain. He is no airing anything that was said behind closed doors, but giving a balanced and counter to their PUBLIC stance. People with no islamic knowledge should refrain from publicly speaking especially when it comes from emotion and has not islamic backing. If you wish to talk publicly about something and cause fitnah then be prepared to be publicly refuted.
The issue is, the issue is public, so its being refuted in public, because its CAUSING HARM in the public sphere to the muslims and has HUGE ramifications
Women like this really confuse me. If you don't believe in Islam, just jog on.. but if you believe it's true, just shut up and accept Allah knows better than you and stop posioning the minds of the ummah just because you don't like something.
Wouldn’t the children from both marriages have to know of each other? Otherwise, keeping a second marriage a secret obviously causes the risk of incest. The argument for the permissibility's of a secret marriage makes no sense.
these sisters never stated that polygyny is wrong or immoral. if you listened well, they talked about polygyny that is done wrong/ performed injust which ofcourse they find problematic. as simple as that.
We've all listened to it, tell me what wrong thing have they mentioned? Where have they said, " if he does that he did it wrong" u know what else they didn't say? How the prophet "did it" they just say we have the example of the prophet, that's it they don't mention what's good about it and they don't mention what's done wrong, it's all about, betrayel, how dare he, spiritual abuse blah blah blah, such cancer
@@ibadurrehman1210 when a husband does not treat the women equally, when he realises that he can not provide equally, when he commits zina first and then marries the women as a second wife, and so on ...
Honestly the women did not provide a description what the right way is and the right way is how the prophet and the sahaba did it and they didn't ask their first wife or second or third if they are allowed to marry another one and this idea would have never crossed the mind of the women back then. This is a new things that men ask for permission or consent.
I agree with what you said throughout the video but I think you understood the sister wrong. I believe she meant that women are looked down upon and shamed if they commit adultery but men who commit adultery may get a nikah afterwards to legitimize the relationship ... and is not looked down upon for the sin he has commit prior to the nikah
Then this will not be an islam problem, because the punishment of adultery is the same for men AND women. Well why bring this point if it's irrelevant to islam? Coming back to Hijab's meet analogy, it's like us discussing eating meet in islam and I'll say "well the problem is people look at vegetarians badly", simply you'll say "that's has nothing to do with islam" and my argument will be irrelevant. In fact, assuming what you said is what the sister meant, it solidify brother hijab's point of view that the sister is considering her emotions as the base of truth. Because society do this and that when polygamy, and this and that heart my feelings, and islam allows polygamy then polygamy is bad and islam is wrong.
Adultery has the exact same punishment for men and women. That should tell you enough about the gravity of each sin in the eyes of Allah. Now, if a man marries the woman he cheated with, it doesn’t legitimize what they did before. But also the woman can do a similar thing: divorce the man she is married to and marry the one she cheated with. So the whole point is moot. Marriage after adultery does not legitimize the adultery committed before in no way, shape or form. The men who think that are extremely wrong.
My dad married a second wife when I was about 1 years old. My mother left him and before they got married (arranged) she said she will agree to the marriage if he agrees to never take another wife. He agreed but broke the agreement so she left. When I was 18 he married a third wife, now he has two. The one he married while with my mom and the other. The original second wife of course did not take it well and they hated each other. Both have their own houses so they stayed away from one another. However, now they are friends, not sure how that happened, especially knowing my first step mom I’m shocked it happened.
One of my close relatives has two wives and now both living in one house upper portion and lower portion. He did not inform second wife immediately but within 4 - 5 months he prepared her and when he realized she will be OK he informed her. There were some clash and jealousy between the two women but it worked out very well now and both are good friends and help each other. Infact both women mothers met each other and found out both are related and it increased their likeness to each other. I think the acceptance of polygamy has a lot to do with culture since in west it is considered "harmful" and people born in west grow up with such ideologies it becomes harder to accept it emotionally. My wife even said to me that I can marry another women but I dont find any issue with my wife so I dont want to have second marriage but I am pretty sure it will be OK for her if I do. It has lot to do with social engineering.
Yes the Prophet (saw) kept intimate things private and kept minor harful things private BUT HE NEVER KEPT A WHOLE WIFE SECRET FROM HIS OTHER WIVES. There is no justification for taking a secret wife and making her to agree to be a secret from existing wife. There is no excuse. This topic is very triggering and hurtful for me. Ive been harmed deeply by polygamy
I hear you brother. Although I don’t agree with the sisters attitudes towards polygyny, I think the sister referred to the double standards within the community where if a wife cheats she is outcasted whereas a man can cover it up through marriage after he has been caught.
I don't know how polygamy works in non Muslim countries, but in Islamic law , you need a consent from the first wife to be able to get into polygamy relationship.
but the topic wasn't that men cheat, it was about polygyny without the aspect of cheating. Why assume the man did haram with the girl before he made the girl his 2nd wife?
@@finalfrontier001 You do not need the first wife permission to marry another wife. A man must indeed be just with his wives and provide for them and treat them equally but he does not need the first wife permission to marry because that's just dumb and is nowhere in the shari'a
Jazakallahu kharain for speaking on floods in pakistan brother our city in upper sindh is surrounded by flood water and the danger of flooding the city's inner part still looms. However surrounding villages have completely been over run by flooding water. May Allah have mercy on muslims of pakistan and where ever they are who are going through hardships or persecution. Ameen
Mohammed Hijab is either clutching at straws or creating a straw man or both to try and portray sisters as the villains in polygyny and brothers as mere martyrs stuck in the toxic drama created by said “villains”. Yes, some women will not be able to accept being a co-wife even if the man follows Sharia however, it's a situation the man has to deal with with the correct adab and ahlaaq. Polygyny practised in our way of life is a MAN issue and they have to deal with it respectfully which includes being dignified, decent, transparent and honest. It’s a choice they make, not obligatory. Knowing that there may be fallout and planning on how to deal with it without oppressing their women must be considered before entering into a second, third or fourth marriage. The wife must be told of his intentions and be able to make decisions about her life. It’s common decency and not rocket science. In this instance, the reasons to point the finger at sisters are simply thin to none. Women for once cannot be scapegoated on flimsy exceptions mentioned by Mohammed regardless of what the sister in the clip is saying, not saying, implying or not implying. This guy should actually deal with the adab of polygyny directly with men rather than by putting words into the sister’s mouth and refuting sisters’ feelings about it, all the while ignoring or deflecting the role men play in the situations being discussed. FYI: a woman’s mental health and well-being is a perfectly good reason to seek divorce. Shame on you Mohammed for making it seem as if a woman has no choice or preference in her seeking divorce because she personally does not want to be in a polygynous marriage or that it’s haram for her to do so. Seeking and attaining a divorce would afford her the halal right to move on and remarry a like-minded Muslim man. Lastly, what you fail to address are the broader implications of undisclosed polygynous marriages on the family and societal unit. Or perhaps you’re just ignorant there of. But using extreme arguments such as a woman weaponising the child against the husband or her hating polygyny or women to question her iman is simply ludicrous. If a man is deifying his wife’s reaction and his feelings then that’s tantamount to perhaps erring on the side of shirk. Simply put your video and refutation are biased and reminiscent of cultural and philosophical misogyny that is not Islamic or attributed to our Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Didn't Brother Hijab say that he is assuming the sister said something and is replying to it? In essence Brother Hijab is himself telling that he is strawmaning. Also men are not Portrayed as martyrs, no one will praise a brother for marrying multiple women. What Brother Hijab is addressing about is how men are Portrayed as "villains" for wanting a polygomous marriage. Also polygamy is not just a "man's situation" to deal with it, remember the situation arises because there are 2 or more women involved, although I get what you mean.
Also what is the adab of polygamy? A Muslim man must inform his 1st wife that he is taking a second wife but he does not need permission of the 1st wife. He should honor his wives equally and provide them food, shelter and clothing. Also please understand it is a wife's right to demand protection, clothing, food and shelter from her husband but it is not a wife's right to demand exclusivity of her husband. Also what "flimsy exceptions" are you talking about, these women speak as if polygamy is haram all the while disguising that it is halal if practiced in a proper way. Last video brother's Ali and Hijab challenged these women to tell men how to practice polygamy in a proper way. Also FYI : "A woman's mental health and well being is perfectly good reason to seek divorce". Seek divorce and do what? Raise children in a single mother household and put their lives in jeapordy because you don't feel good or marry another man who should take care of you and your children because you didn't feel good. Do you even understand what you speak about? It's like divorcing because the husband is poor and you don't feel good. My question is simple - If a husband provides for you, feeds you, shelters you and clothes you (all rights ordained by Allah) , why do you want to divorce him? Because he didnt ask your permission for 2nd permission? (even Allah didn't give women this right) This is what feminism has done. It has made women self centered and Narcissistic. Women's well being is the most important thing!!! Go gurl !!! Yass Queen!!! Women nowadays have fallen into this wrong notion of one man one woman. Islam doesn't say this. Women don't have right to exclusivity of her husband. Our prophet(saw) and Sahabas didn't ask permission from their wives not do they have to. Having said all this I would like to stress that it is the Husband's duty to inform his 1st wife that he is taking another wife. She has right to honesty from the husband. If the husband can't even tell the 1st wife about the marriage how can anyone expect him to be fair to her. Also I am not immune to the feelings of the women. I understand it must be very embarrassing to the 1st wife and the husband must be very careful in helping her deal with it. and both should work together in looking after the wellbeing of their marriage and children. But my point still remains - if the 1st wife feels embarrassed (and she has every reason to be) both the husband and wife should work together to help her overcome it, but under no circumstances should she ask for divorce if the husband takes care of all her rights just because her mental wellbeing is affected (which is a fancy way of saying she is bummed out) That's all I wanted to say sister. Sorry if I had been harsh at places but please know that my intention was right. I rarely comment in RUclips videos but your comment was so thoughtful and clever but was wrong in just in one perspective and I wanted to correct it. ASSALAAMU ALAIKKUM from India.
@@KS-vm5yj the problem is that they believe the divorce will help them in the mental health capacity. What’s worse is that if they have small children and the women decides to remarry those children must go with the husband. Is she ready for that?
SCENARIO: you hide your second wife from your first wife. Then you have children from both. Is there not a danger in these children growing up, not knowing about each and possibly becoming attracted to one another. How is it possible to hide the second wife in this scenario? It is important the children grow up together as to not create this risk, no? In that case if the children know about each other the first wife is bound to know about the second. This whole argument makes no sense. Sorry.
@@Ahmed-DB it’s not grasping at straws, it’s more common than you think! And it’s a risk nonetheless. Siblings have to know one another, the argument that you don’t have to tell your wife is a silly and desperate attempt to justify cheating/deception
@@spff-gg7tq its not. You do know that no man makes both thsoe wives live near each other. Usually even in a different country. So no. The children dont know eachother and wont be attracted to each other since they wont meet. So no. Ur argument fails
@@Badui-wg6ms you do know it’s compulsory upon every Muslim to keep ties with family, and know one another. So yes my argument still remains. And it’s not sustainable long term for a man to live in between two countries.
She literally just meant that no one, woman or man, should not cheat. Either way it is wrong, but when a man does it, no one looks at it for what it is. You are over conflating what she said and telling muslim men to not be honest.
@@DARTH-R3VAN but in the video of the woman she said that a man cheats (she meant out of wedlock) and THEN COVERS it up with marriage. She never said polygamy was cheating.
@@tiredgamer242 it's definitely evil but you cannot practice the hudood without the man either admitting it himself, or you bring 4 male truthful witnesses who were with you to watch him commit adultery.
@@DARTH-R3VAN Yeah, and the same goes for a women. Regardless of if you can prove it or not Allah treats us equally and if someone is cheating, male or female, they will answer to Him.
That’s not what she was saying AT ALL. She was clearly trying to say that men can get away with zina while women cannot. It’s based entirely on her feelings, and she’s using it to argue against polygyny and banning it without directly SAYING she is against it.
Exceptions make the rule, not disprove it. If 99.999% is one way-you don’t point to the remaining 0.001% to say that they both have equal weight/impact, do ya?? I agree, kids shouldn’t be used like that period, but let’s not be disingenuous. If men even *could* do that, fem*inists would immediately lobby to put a federal law in place to make it illegal for men to do so. Besides how could men “use” something they don’t have ANY access to and can only see once for 2 every two weeks for 2 hours while “under officer supervision” 🤦♂
@@moe3235 I never said exceptions disprove the rule but exceptions matter when you have personal experience with the exception like I have. I don't think the exception on this is only 1% of the time either.
@@moe3235 btw...the case I am thinking of the mother is a Muslim (convert) and the father isn't. There could be some Islamophobia involved with the court favoring the father and him alienating the children.
I mean... If a woman has 4 husbands, and each one comes to her on the same day saying they each want a child. Imagine the pain of the man who goes last. Poor guy has to wait over 36 months (have to account for how long after one pregnancy is a woman able to conceive again). Seriously imagine that. And on top of that, if the wife is pregnant for one man, that man is not going to be happy knowing her other husbands are intimate with the wife while his baby is in her womb! 😭🤢 So even intimacy will be affected. it just doesn't work the other way. On the other hand, a man with 4 wives if he is healthy, can impregnate all his wives in a single day if they all wanted children at the same time. and since they are all his children, intimacy isn't affected.
@@uok6216 many people do. Its a common question or objection. So he just brought it up. It isn't necessary that the comments should directly respond to the video.
Someone needs to address the higher chances of getting an STD or STI for the man and his wives. It can also develop into an HIV and cause fertility issues on the long run. I personally refuse to sleep with my husband just knowing that he might get me an STD or STI, or even cause fertility issues for me. Some of those diseases stay with you permanently like Hepatitis B, herpes, HIV, and HPV. AND women are more prone to give Cervical cancer if their husband is sleeping with other multiple wives. SEX EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESED !!
I understand your concern but your husband having multiple wives is not the same as sleeping around. The risk would be if he was cheating on your with multiple women who are also being sexually active with other people. The only way you can get those STIs is if one of the wives have it and pass it on but if they are his wives then they should be okay with getting checked, as it is part of a responsible relationship which marriage is.
multiple wives came out of cultural context that cannot be tried today. not with a mindset the current people have. It was good for old times when a lot of women were widowed. I just cannot imagine my mother or sister relegated to 1/4th of a role today
Polygamy is not your right, rather it is merely permissible in Islam. If it was your right as a man why does it come with conditions? Let’s be just, most men cannot observe polygamy right. Most women would also not want it. So where do we go from here?
@@hafsa671 No they wouldnt? What sort of fallacious argument is this? Do you believe humans have right to food, shelter, education? If you do, then by your logic I can ask you "if that were the case why are many people homeless, starve and illiterare?
@@Ahmed-DB you make no sense lol. Food is a necessity whilst another wife is merely an addition. One is a human right the other isn’t smh. Now get off the internet and stop arguing your case of wanting another woman to a stranger, rather go make money and educate urself on your Deen so you may JUST be of the few that are allowed. Salam
Tbh I don't think the sister was equating polygyny with cheating. She seemed to be saying that if a woman cheats she is immediately shunned by everyone. However, when a man cheats, he can hush it up by marrying the woman and nobody bats an eyelash.
@@YahyaAwake Second wives have rights. He would need to provide for her equally as his first wife, she can choose not to work and have her husband provide for her. She can he even demand seperate housing from the first wife. There's a very big difference from a second wife and a mistress.
@@mohamedmo8128 obviously second wife has rights… but she can request way less than the first wife if she wants. Also ur wrong. U can’t treat them equally it’s literally humanly impossible to do the same exact for your wives, but the correct word is u need to be JUST meaning u have to give them their rights and do ur best with providing for them. Pray to Allah the women make it easy as well
A question regarding this video: This video has automatically generated translations (alhamdullillah) with the option to automatically translate. While the translation is often understandable it often simply cannot follow your academic and more complex terminology (allahumma barik) thus making the translation not useable at certain places in the video. I'd like to make a german translation for this video for my german sisters because I think it could really benefit them, in sha Allah. I'd also check up many words you're using in my german grammar dictionary to be sure.
With respect, the sisters were talking about ‘secret second wives’ and no, the Prophet (sas), nor the Sahabah did that…. I think you’re losing the plot on this one Bro Hijab and you’re failing to acknowledging the great problem and devastation caused by secret second wives ….. polygyny is not the problem…..”secret/hidden marriages” involving deceit, lies and betrayal is the problem …. Come on Muhammad Hijab , be fair 😞
No marriage can be hidden while all polygamous marriages must be fair. If this cannot be maintained or you're not sincere you are taking a risk with your deen. Allah knows best. In my experience too many bros haven't even paid off their haram mortgage and they're lining up a secret second wife in some impoverished village in their immigrant homeland whom they cannot declare or grant the same lifestyle in their new adopted Western home or chosen legal jurisdiction. Can't cherry pick your laws and claim the moral high ground and this goes for bros and sisters
I would really love to know what man is capable of more than one wife. Treating all equally and taking financial care of them. It causes so much pain to the woman.
@L C helper* may I remind you that The permission of a man taking 4 wives was set to (protect women), not for them to become your helper, nor for them to satisfy your wild fantasy
I agree with the academic points in this video, jazakallah. However, I am concerned that, unintentionally, you have in turn created shubha about the matter of divorce and khul', and humbly ask for you to clarify this matter in full and ideally retract some of the way you have framed it. Unfortunately, your assertions about not appealing to empathy were lost when considering this matter. In the last video especially and somewhat in this one, you described ideas of "breaking the home" and "impact on children", in a similar fashion and with emotive language that you have criticised others for using. Right and wrong isn't about who you love" were your words - so this applies to men and children too. A woman seeking divorce has no correlation with her love for her children, just as a man seeking polygyny has no correlation with his love for his first wife. There are many situations where a woman is seeking divorce to prevent greater sin than if she stayed. The way you have represented khul' is also incongruent with the Jumhur opinion, and also, that of the Islamic Sharia council UK, which reiterates "There is no restriction on the grounds for divorce." on its website. You gave the fragrance of paradise Hadith (goes without saying I very much accept and love this Hadith) but did not clarify the flexibility in this Hadith i.e "absolutely necessary" which can include ill feeling following polygyny. This has dangerous ramifications when considering this Hadith: (Sahih Bukhari) Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The wife of Thabit bin Qais bin Shammas came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I do not blame Thabit for any defects in his character or his religion, but I am afraid that I (being a Muslim) may become unthankful for Allah's Blessings." On that, Allah's Apostle said (to her), 'Will you return his garden to him?" She said, "Yes." So she returned his garden to him and the Prophet told him to divorce her. Narrated 'Ikrima: The sister of 'Abdullah bin Ubai narrated with the addition that the Prophet said to Thabit's wife, "Will you return his garden?" She said, "Yes," and returned it, and (then) the Prophet ordered Thabit to divorce her. Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The wife of Thabit bin Qais came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I do not blame Thabit for any defects in his character or his religion, but I cannot endure to live with him." On that Allah's Apostle said, "Will you return his garden to him?" She said, "Yes." The Prophet PBUH did not question Thabit's wife on the claim that "she could not endure to live with him" or she "may be unthankful". The way you discuss khul' risks the implication that the Prophet PBUH was too lenient in this Hadith.
This is such a necessary topic to address! If you be transparent with you partner to such a degree which you're not religiouly obligated to then you're throwing yourself into destruction. That woman who you love and think is sweet, has the capacity in her to be an terrible oppressor. If you foolishly give her the ammunition then she WILL use it against you. Especially young ignorant women (they might wear hijab and pray 5 times a day) who incline to feminism than Islam.
“But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses.” The question is can these poor oppressed brothers actually deal justly between 2 wives? They can only take more than one wife on the condition they can be just - time, affection, resources and so much more. Most can’t but that hasn’t stopped men from ignoring the actual condition set out by Allah.
@@supersleepymedic would those Muslim women who complain about polygamy spouting unsubstantiated claims like you have done be ok with their spouses taking another wife if he were to treat them as per the Quran and the Sunnah? Be honest, they would not be ok even if that were the case.
Obviously she did not mean stepping out in that way. How is it not clear to you. I watch a lot of your videos and you are right on polygyny but insinuating that she might meant something else is very very strange.
He said he was going to employ husn lthan and not go by the official understood definition of stepping out, so even though I disagreed with the entire video this is one point I do agree with.
My dear brother, may Allah reward you, you show excellance when explaining things using islamic evidence and expression. Even if some words you say are not from our vocabulary sometimes, one still gets the point. As salaamu aleykum from Germany.
Speak for yourself bro. My wife could have used her God given right to demand an impossible Mahr from me which would have caused me a lot of difficulty, but she understood my situation, and without me coercing her in any way, she decided to make it easy on me and make our marriage easy all by herself. Now everyday I try to be the best man to her. It's not about reason versus emotion and one being better than the other, but how much you care about your spouse at the end of the day and how easy you want to make their life. My brothers always refer to the Sunnah of our Prophet (PBUH) marrying multiple wives, I look at his Sunnah of the first woman he married, stayed loyal to her for 25 years and she was the love of his life and he stayed monogamous with her till she passed away and even then he was stricken with grief. That's the kind of marriage I desire and I want. Both are sunnahs, so don't tell me that one is more sunnah than the other. It's all about your perspective and the kind of relationship you want with your wife. You gotta decide if it's worth it to you making your wife non-exclusive, and using shariah to defend her being in that position.
Just because something is halal, doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. Money alone is not a good enough reason to do whatever you want. FOR EXAMPLE, just because you are a millionaire, doesn't mean that it's morally OK to have 20+ children that you won't even have the time to raise and take care of. THATS why Allah created a conscious, empathy, and our use of discretion in these situations. WHICH is why we are the smartest beings on earth. Islam is not a one size fits all. OTHERWISE, there would be no Dunia and everything would be perfect. There's a Grey area in some cases. For example, if a husband have 4 wives, but all of them have very high sex drive. How can he possibly fulfill that? What part of equate does these men don't understand?? Marriage initself is a huge responsibility. Let alone trying to equate financially, emotionally, and sexually between the 4 wives. Some women have PCOS or a hormonal imbalance which triggers that high sex drive. RISKS of STDs and STIs and how it affects fertility for men and women. Is no one gonna talk about that? Some risks like HIV, HPV, Hepatitis B, herpes are permanent and you'll need medications for life. Let alone you can transmit the disease sexually to you wives and affect their fertility/reproductive health because of having more than one sexual partner. If a wife is going through a postpartum depression and can't have sex with her husband because it's painful. HOW is it morally right to marry someone else at that time ?? Postpartum depression is a real mental illness that have a VERY high rates of suicide. I'm not against Allah's words. But it should not be a common practice if the husband is fulfilled and happy with his wife. I'm a psychology student and can assure you that polygamous relationships doesn't last one bit. And the most successful long lasting marriages are monogamous. PLEASE EDUCATE yourself about basic biology and human anatomy, and psychology before claiming that it's OK for everyone without ADDRESSING all the risks and then make a conscious decision that you can face Allah with. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk :). I hope you all stay healthy and safe.
" I am going to reward your honesty with destruction " Habibi Mohammed You crushed it. The only reason they want to know is so they can cause absolute destruction.
@@MH-bf4uu Saying to “have empathy” and “good manners” on this is a scapegoat to justify hating what Allah SWT Allows. They only say they hate on how it’s being said to continue hating WHAT is being said. Just stop already.
@@JamesBond-wv9xz how are they hating what Allah Swt allows? They didn't say polygamy is bad. Rather, it is the way some brothers go about it which is the issue
man can take a second wife if he is providing for his first wife and is man enough to provide for his second wife like he is providing for his first wife not his wife has to provide for him and his second wife That is the consent of the first wife and she can divorce her husband even though he is providing for both of them she may not get along with the second wife and doesn't want to be a part of her husband and his second wife
Bro please read what you wrote and make it more simples jazak Allah Basically Muslim man can have up to 4 wives if he can be just. He doesn't need first wife permission it would be kind to inform her I'm marrying 2nd wife but thats up to him and Allah knows best If Muslim women wants to divorce because she doesn't want her husband to do polygamy then you have to encourage her to be patient as Qur'an encourages Muslims to be patient You need to watch first part of this reaction video called reaction to honest tea talks about polygamy. Divorce is most hated thing to Allah in permissible things Do you most single women families are broken most kids from single mother families are criminals etc. And Allah knows best
@@nobodyisborngayislam polygamy creates partially single-mother since the husband goes from a full-time husband and father to a part-time husband and father assuming he's following polygamy the right way and equally dividing time between all families. some women are okay with this set up but it's just not the same dynamics as a two-parent monogamist household
@@mohamedmo8128 if she has full resposibility of the children while he's abroad then she is completely different to the woman who has her husband living with her 24/7. so while she's not completely a single mother since she may be recieving support that single mothers may not have access to, which is why i said they are "PARTIAL" single mothers
@@blumachine in Islam we don't follow people's opinions like yours we follow the quran and sunna. What you are suggesting is a perfect world which doesn't exist. Islam is all about balance and polygamy is part of that
Brilliantly argued by Brother Hijab. He is becoming a giant in Dawah Masha Allah argues Islamic text with really sharpened philosophical tools. May Allah SWT give him good health and long life and allow him to keep contributing.
It’s not just man’s right, these feminists are taking away, also they are trying to take away other women’s right to marry a married man who they find to be suitable for their needs. Polygyny benefits women way more than it benefits men. May Allah ﷻ give us understanding of his deen. Ameen
Nobody took away anything from these lustful beasts. Just find women that are compatible with your mindset and mention polygamy before marriage. Simple.
Ahhh, then why do Syrian and other female refugees are still suffering? Man, why don't you take 4 of those women refugees as wives? Why go after virgins as for 4 wives all the time, haaa? If you want to help these much to women species, then please marry 4 refugees women with their children and set an beautiful example... And then come and talk about how healthy & helpful is polygamy for women more then men, yaaaahh....
It seriously scares me how many thinks keeping your second wife a secret from your first wife is okay, and then continuing to live a double life🥴, this is the practice of the devil
It's not the practice of the devil. Please don't post ignorant statements. It's not a 'double life' because the man is just acting upon his rights in Islam. The man does not have to tell the first wife about the second wife anyway, so it doesn't have to be called a secret. The man is not sinful in this circumstance.
@@999legend8 the wife needs to know stop saying fake stuff, you don’t need her approval but she needs to know and yes this is the practice of the devil, may Allah put men who thinks like this far away from innocent women Ameen, La hawla wa la quwwata illa Billah 😦🫢💀
Here is a slightly different answer to the usual question about, so why can't women have more than 1 husband if the man can have multiple wives? - Becuase if it was the case that both men and women were allowed to have more than 1 spouse, then there will be no point of a marriage at all!! - Because each women could be married to different men, who in turn could have different multiple wives, who in turn could have different multiple husbands. And there could be no end to this grouping sets. So therefore, no point in a marriage exisitng in society! (BTW Mashallah. Great point about women vs women issue!)
Plus there is the issue of paternity. And women dont have the biological capability to truly love and respect more than 1 man. Women also have a very limited reproductive window, and can only carry kids from 1 father at any particular time. A guy could have multiple kids with multiple different women at the same time. There is biology, physiology and psychology taken into account with islamic laws
@@HowTwo007 The paternity problem is one if the biggest issue in my opinion, also men are territorial beings, we are very protective of our possessions including our spouses.
It is already a heavy thing on the existing wife but when the men do it harmfully we are expected to not be upset! When will tbe men address the oppresive practices of polygyny instead of always criticizing the women When we are harmed by polygyny
It's odd that society can accept multiple partner relationships outside marriage as fun, yet view polygamy, i.e more than 1 wife given legal rights as oppression and transgression?
@@seekthetruthfindit6879 She has the right to leave the marriage. It is God's wisdom not to allow women to have multiple husbands...Saying that any sensible normal man will not take on the headache of second marriages anyway. A lot more easier to for the god fearing to remain with 1 wife...or for the less God fearing to cheat behind her back as is the norm in today's secular society....
@@Shahid-if4ws You do not seem to be married yourself. First, she might have children that would have to stay with the father (after a certain age). Second, she will have to ask for a divorce and give up her mehr. Thirdly, her family might not want to take her back in, and she must always be with a mahram... Consequently, she is stuck and worse off. Often, she might only find out her husband has a second wife when a child is on its way. My ex took me as a second wife. I did not know there was a first. His family and friends all lied to me, and even after I found out, they excused his behaviour. Anyways, I left religion 10 years ago as I started to see it for what it is: man-made for men. Even in Jannah, men are better off. Fun- question: How did Adam who was 39 m tall build and fit into the kaaba (15m)?
@@seekthetruthfindit6879 I am married thanks, and have no intention of doing a second. It seems to me that either you are not telling me the truth or you were naive...you should have involved your wali/parents in the marriage process...they should have done a proper research on the man you married, also I doubt if everyone lied to you about his first marriage...and the whole purpose of walima is that everyone knows of the marriage...and you should have got the marriage registered....it is unlikely that if you followed the procedures his first marriage was kept secret.... And clearly you need to seek the truth about Allah and his religion before slandering it; Surah Ar-Rad, Verse 1: المر تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ وَالَّذِي أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ الْحَقُّ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ These are the verses of the Book; and that which is revealed to you from your Lord is the truth, but most people do not believe. Quraan God's Word; ruclips.net/video/9RuQMD4yYWg/видео.html ruclips.net/video/92m7kyk8uH8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/VwZwczHLAL4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/AbTQBCpGqeo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/j-ULa2JzPG0/видео.html Prophecies; ruclips.net/video/xZIqd_-1Zus/видео.html ruclips.net/video/BugO0Lk1pkE/видео.html ruclips.net/video/fyCYH0al0eI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/x_L5ljbNjI8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/GDW5KYt7pb8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/3PyAiv92XjY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RM1vYBd8pjk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/MtVT8agQ0jc/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Fgf3s2Ods-M/видео.html ruclips.net/video/b8giBkzNs8o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/bRS0Zn5vXX8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Ae4VqoBCIZQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/9Q6Vc434O8o/видео.html ruclips.net/video/d3y7GDhPd8w/видео.html ruclips.net/video/p9ICh0WNl60/видео.html ruclips.net/video/MtVT8agQ0jc/видео.html
Wow never seen someone say so much without saying nothing. He has literally been trying to downgrade these sisters and discredit them by taking them out of context. All she was trying to say was that, when Muslim men cheat on women, the community tries to “fix” the problem by offering marriage to the cheating couple to help them rectify their affairs, in other words the men get a lot of support. Whereas, if women fall into the same sin, they are ostracised and driven out of the community with no support or a way out through repentance etc, it’s almost seen as worse even though it’s the same sin. There’s no need for all the intellectual jargon or the misinterpreting of her words. The point here, is not only the discrepancy within our community, but that when OTHER Muslim women witness this discrepancy in the community, it has a negative flow on affect on them and it can lead them to feel bitter and possibly distant from the community and by extension Islam. It’s just a perspective, calm down, what a batikha.
Exactly. And then hijab titles the video “equating polygamy with cheating” when in the beginning of the video he admits that she might not have meant it like that. What are people going to assume after seeing such a title? This is basically slander. Why doesn’t he contact sr Sumaya and ask for a clarification? This refutation culture of Muslims on RUclips against one another really worries me.
@@mais6306 it is slanderous because many people are just going to see that title against her pic and assume the worst, many will probably not even watch the video but that title will stick. It’s a cheap shot at clicks and views and very immature. It’s disgusting that he is doing this to sisters who are genuinely some of the most respected modest sisters, they are simply doing their best to be a voice for sisters in the community, but here comes the big man stepping on their efforts by dropping F Bombs like feminism and trying so hard to publicly defame them so he can derive some cheap views. I honestly believe Allah swt will humble him in time inshallah
Im still confused as to why Hijab never mentions men only women, adam and slim sleep with transgenders, slim got caught sleeping with a transgender only fans model and his wife left him and both adam and slim have kept quiet there is literally dozens of video footage of her also just hanging out in the evenings at their hotel and watching tv with them before the incident took place. why doest hijab or ali dawah make videos about those guys Why do dawah people rush to go after dina tokio for taking of her scarf (im not a fan of her at all and i think she was embarrasing the nonsense she wrote on her blog after she took of her scarf) but they go quiet when the male muslims do far worse. I am actually a support hijab, ali and smile 2 jannah never seen any issues in what they say but the fact they go after women but not the guys in islam is getting strange.. also i do not like the honest tea talk girls I watch 2 or 3 of their videos a long time ago and knew it wasnt for me so im not a fan of theirs either. Maybe he never knew of this transgender outing perhaps? but if he looks it up he will see clear evidence of the messages and she was even on stories with slim and adam at night in the hotel hanging out.
Bruh don't expose this shit I don't want to know others business of what they did. No point in talking about someone sins because we all sin. We don't know what really happened. May Allah SWT forgive them and us.
@@BlackJack-lg3vx they made a video about her taking off her scarf and in the same video Hijab said he thinks she’s going through something .. if he knows there may be issues we don’t know of then why make the video in the first place about her taking off her scarf.. unfortunately as a scarf Is a visual thing it will be noticed it can’t be covered up like other sins etc.. and it was just very judgemental I’d rather a women try wearing hijab dozens of times than to never try at all.. if Dina tokio got exposed for sleeping with trans men whilst married they wouldn’t keep quiet the way they did for slim
I’m not too sure whether it’s just the environment I’ve been in but obviously growing up under these western ideals while balancing it with Islamic fatwa, I just don’t think I’d ever necessarily be interested in polygamy. I have someone I’m getting engaged to very soon and inshallah it goes smooth but just as a disclaimer, I know I’m not a fortune teller, but I don’t think I’ll ever want more than one wife and I wouldn’t need it. Why would you want to put your wife through that pain? That’s something I don’t understand. I accept that it’s true and someone can do it if they cater for all wives equally, but I’m not sure how this goes hand in hand with respecting my first wife. The same protective jealousy a man has over their wife can surely be perceived in the reverse, no? I think that for whatever reasons in the past or perhaps in the present, most circumstances I see nowadays or those that are made visible in media are those polygamous marriages which Muslim men perpetuate their lust via Islamic fatwa. I know a lot of “double standards” don’t necessarily have any basis since men and women are clearly different both psychologically and physically. But when it comes to polygamy I don’t think I’ll ever find an understanding as to why someone would do that. If anyone can reply in such a way that I can learn, I’d be appreciative. A lot of men can barely look after themselves anyways tbh so I don’t think they should even have the audacity to be wanting a second wife 😂 but yeah.
Most people that get married don’t think of marrying more than one . But guess what there’s a chance if your a healthy man you’ll desire another women. No matter how beautiful your wife maybe your natural desires would want more women . The only difference would be if you go ahead and do it or not
The Prophet (saw) had more Gheyrah (protective jealousy) than you, & he had 9 wives at one time. And his wives (ra) had jealousy too. The Sahaba (ra) had more Gheyrah than you, and they had multiple wives as well as right hand possessions with whom intimacy is permissable for a man. You are not better than them. If you don't want to practice it, fine. But don't make emotion-based statements like this which have no basis in Islam as the best men of this Ummah from the best generation had multiple wives.
@@YeOldVisigoth I’m not saying that my statement has a basis Islamically. I’m talking about what I understand and making basically something close to an enquiry so that I may understand. Obviously such people are better than me in terms of protective jealousy etc, and there’s no doubt. But there’s also no doubt that this was a generation of people from long ago. I believe that Islam will never change and its values are timeless. So it’s not that I disagree with it, if someone feels as if they want to do such a thing go ahead. But even back then, how could a person marry a woman and then proceed to marry another? It is definitely not wrong. But it is something that my emotions do not align with and I’m attempting to see if there is reasoning behind it. If it is something alike to something being forbidden and it is Allah’s decree then so be it. But if there is genuinely a reason, it would at least help me come to understand.
@@amrosaleh2935 The prophet Saw had multiple wives yes? That’s all you have to say to convince yourself to get multiple wives? The prophet was also the most high value man, he treated every single wife with the same respect and met their emotional needs, he provided for them, for the children, he could handle that, and don’t forget that he never married anyone else when he was with the woman he loved most, Khadijah (ra). The brother makes an understanding point about personally not wanting multiple wives, if a man sees one wife fit and especially because it’s within his means to only provide for one family, than that is better for him than chasing after a polygamous marriage where he can end up ruining family bonds and do a lot more harm in the eyes of Allah than actual good. May Allah keeps us humble and have true niyyah in our affairs.
Totally agree with all the points you mentioned. Maa shaa Allah. Allahumma baarik. Firstly, I’d like to say that there are many polygynous marriage stories that I know and heard of that are successful. But people always prefer to dig out polygynous marriages that are failing or are in a big mess. Secondly, let’s be honest, all marriage - whether people are in monogamous or polygynous marriages - have problems. Have you ever heard of a perfect marriage? No. With this in mind, these ladies might as well consider marriage as a whole a taboo. Nevertheless, it is Allah who legislated both types of marriages and they both have positive impact on society from an Islamic, social, psychological, financial and moral perspective. And therefore, whether or not they agree with Allah and His messenger, it doesn’t take anything away or belittle His perfect legislations. And like you said, brother Mohammad, it only proves that they have a more deeper problem.
how many u know that are successful.. i mean if u lie about it, hide it from ur wiffe / family than get caught than it is like cheating cuz ur hiding and lying .. our prophets and there companions and there family never hid marriages from family and there wives
The issue is females today talk based on there own personal experiences through life and try to turn the pain or experiences and opinions into the truth/fact. It's like the people that leave there religion and talk a whole bunch of negativity afterwards because there basing it all on what they went through growing up, don't blame the religion blame the individuals. So if a dude cheated ect don't blame the religion blame the dude.
Ok? Isn't it better for some with experience to speak, than some idiot with privilege to preach? Polygyny is disgusting, and so is Islam. There was no reason a 50 year old should've married a 6 year old. If it was about her life, he could've adopted her! He had so many wives that could've raised her. Why didn't he just open up an orphanage? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the young girls at work in the orphanage than marrying them to raise their own babies! Women are capable of working, but in Islamic culture, they've always tried to keep women under. So men can be known as the ''protectors and providers'' while getting the privilege of sleeping with multiple women. We are talking about a time period where men were dying from war, and women were at home. The same thing happened during the world war.. But those women stepped up. They started working. That's what started women's rights. During this Islamic time period, why weren't the women allowed to educate themselves and work for themselves? Muslim men are always saying that women don't have to provide financially, but that's because they were not allowed to support themselves financially! They were not allowed to work. Man made religion that keeps women with a lower status. Very disgusting!
And the whole ''men are the protectors'' is ridiculous. Women can be protectors and defenders as well. Are mothers not protectors of their babies? Do you think a father has more connection to his child than the woman who carried it? To men, it's simply about spreading their genes and continuing the lineage. The child's life does not matter. The child will be forced and brain washed into a religious cult, and then married off before they understand what is happening to them! But Islam teaches, that even if you aren't capable of raising a child, PROCREATION is good! It's the purpose of life! You made another muslim! God will now put you in heaven!
That's called being realistic about widespread trends. You guys live in la la land. It's unfair to turn a blind eye to the injustices caused by a misuse of rights in the religion. Context is important. I live in a Muslim country and cheating for men is acceptable even expected by the norm, because men a re considered to be "polygamous by nature". I'm sure the second something similar affects men your opinion will be different.
Wish there was any overlap between what the sisters were saying and what you just described. Makes me sad because you could have addressed it in a beautiful way helping brothers, who want polygamy for themselves, with how to do it and how to be emotionally mature about it so that the already threatened nuclear family system because of feminism and weak men could have been saved a bit. You just took words out of context and tried to rip apart what they were trying to say. You just made a random counter argument on bits and pieces alone with selective bias use of ahadees. I can write a whole article or make a video that is similar counter argument to your each and every point but then that still won’t address the real issue or solve any problem just like this reaction video.
Respect to my fellow Islam Brothers, as a Christian this is one thing I’m confused about Islam. For me it doesn’t make sense, this is the same confusion I have with the trinity. I wanted to know more and understand it.
Well, I know a lot of women (sisters) will disagree with me on this and probably think I am crazy, but to be frank, I don’t really care. Why is polygyny, such a taboo subject in the Muslim community, whether it is Arab or Asian, Reverts or Not. It’s a major issue it’s so taboo, why? I know that jealousy is natural, the Prophet’s wives were jealous and we know that they were raised in a time where polygyny was openly practiced, even before the Qur’aan was revealed to the Prophet (peace be upon him) I totally understand why most women find it hard to accept. And I am not the type that is like how can you not accept, your rejecting polygyny, an aspect of sharee’a that is unless one states that it’s not permissible, if one states that it’s not permissible that’s a big no-no. I feel it’s for a number of reasons. Society In General- Western Society: The society that we have been raised in, pushes us to feel that polygyny is a form of betrayal, it’s a form of disloyalty and oppression to the woman, that its selfishness from the man’s side. Eastern/Muslim Society: That there is fault in the wife, that she isn’t a good wife, she isn’t beautiful enough, she basically isn’t fulfilling her duties, and this is why the man has gone out to find another. Which in some cases the above (western/eastern) might be true, but in many cases neither of them are the reason the man really wants another. A man will have desire for another woman, during marriage, sorry to burst that bubble and fantasy that many women seem to be living in! Thinking ‘ a man will only have thoughts of me ‘. Seriously it’s not realistic, because almost every man, I don’t care who he is has thought of getting another wife at one point or another, perhaps men thinking about mistress’s because society frowns upon the polygyny card. But you get my drift that every man has thought of being with another woman, at some point during marriage. This isn’t a bad thing. It’s actually really normal, but as I said before a mixture of society and jealousy makes us feel inadequate, betrayed, when that’s not always the case. Ever since I started deening, I force fed the idea of polygyny down me, I was raised around it a bit, but that is not what has lead me to be mentally accepting to it. Years of telling myself its natural, and seeing relationships around me, from deening and non deening couples has lead me to the realization that men are polygynous and there is nothing you can do about it. You can be the most obedient, beautiful woman in the world, but the man will always desire in his heart and soul, more than one(woman). Not all men will act upon this desire, but its lingering there in the back of their minds.
If a man is truly in love with his women, he doesn’t want a other woman. Yes he will be attracted to other women, that’s natural. But desiring to have another woman? Not at all.
@@AmirHussain-bi2vx sorry you're wrong, Aisha Radiyallaho Anha was the most beloved after Khadeeja Radiyallaho Anha, yet the Prophet still married after Aisha. There is no marriage without desire. The Prophet desired.
@@kb7202 Actually, it's arguable to say that The Reason Prophet pbuh didn't marry another woman when Khadijagh R.A was alive was because of love. (It could be the reason) But the other side of argument is (which is more logical and I'll tell you why it makes more sense in the end). The other argument is that He pbuh didn't marry another woman when Khadijah R.A was alive because Verses of LAWFUL POLYGYNY weren't reveal during her life. It's true yes Arabs used to practice Polygyny, but Shariah wasn't revealed the Laws regarding Polygyny weren't revealed in Islam... Those verses of polygny were revealed in Madinah... Sureh Nisa is revealed in Madinah. Once the Lawful verses about Polygny were revealed Prophet pbuh did marry multiple times. Lastly, Prophet pbuh loved Ayesha R.A most among his wives who were alive,(proven by many hadiths) yet he still practiced Polygny (which shows love wasn't the reason for not practicing Polygny) Allah made it Halal, and what Allah made Halal one can't make that haram.
May Allah bless you sister, this is such a brilliant message. I believe this applies to majority of men. You have described it beautifully. This is the case for the vast majority. They do desire a second wife . I have learnt it through experience. The influence of western thinking is strong amongst us Muslims even in our countries. Personally the way i am In sha Allah i will be happy with one but as they say i like to think of myself as an exception. I cannot praise you enough you have cast aside the greatest enemy one can have which is pride.. the major factor I believe why women are against polygyny
A jealous woman (since you don't recognise the term 'cheating' and give yourselves a loophole for lying), WOULD blame the other woman just as much. No serious woman would come along wanting to be wife number 2-4 either, until she already has some serious, serious issues and doesn't care about the man anyway, or intends to get rid of the other women somehow. Repressing jealousy and having it dismissed like that would result in murder. No wonder islam means 'submission' instead of 'peace'. Peace would be a joke in polygamous conditions like that.
No serious woman should want polygamy unless she has serious serious issues? But a healthy and sane (which is what you define in your comment as a jealous) woman would be planning to murder her husband's other wife and an innocent woman.Before you start badmouthing anyone based on your (very) limited knowledge and (meaningless) feelings based on this "knowledge" first know what you're saying before saying.Because this comment of your makes you out to be a proper psychopath.
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: “I was shown hell. I saw that most of its inhabitants were ungrateful women… The Prophet was asked: ‘Were they ungrateful to Allāh?’ He replied: ‘They were ungrateful to their husbands and for the favors and the good done to them. If you show benevolence to one of them and then she sees something in you not to her liking, she will say: ‘I have never seen any good in you.’”
Who're responsible for all this divorcees and single mothers? Women in general don't want to leave or break their homes until they're compelled to do so. Clearly some Muslim men aren't carrying their responsibilities well. A spouse should feel loved and respected in a marriage. True love, camaraderie, dignity can develop only in a monogamous marriage, which is the foundation of a strong Muslim family. Both partners must be loyal and sincere to each other. As a result , we'll see less divorcees and single parents. Treat a problem from its root. In polygyny , none of your wives and children truly loves or respects you, they just need your financial protection. The person they hate the most in the world is you but they'd show fake display of love for their own survival and interest. You can't blame them, the choice was yours.
When you say that there can be no true love in polygynous marriages do you understand that you are accusing the wives of the Prophet (saw) of not really loving him?
Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) biography was written around 250 years after the noble prophet passed away. Many of the later Muslim rulers were outright immoral, womaniser and drunkard...its possible in some of their time many hadiths and many stories of the prophet's personal life were fabricated to justify their own devilish activities. The prophet's biography was written by human and we're not suppose to accept each and every information there without using our aql. Many noble ladies described as his wives were sahabiya -wives, sisters, daughters of his male companions. There is a clear distinction in the description between the love of Khadija (ra) and the prophet (pbuh) and in the description of later marriages. Those who have eyes to see this , will see.
Community leaders, Parents and elders must confront you about the type of teachings you are conveying here. Anyone who has daughters and sisters in their home should be alarmed that you are teaching young people that they can engage in secret marriages and lie to everyone about that,putting our daughters' and sisters' honour and lives at risk.
A man marrying another wife without his first wife not knowing should not even be called 'secret marriage'. Why the negative connotation? The man is simply acting upon his right in Islam. Not committing a sin. You made a false assumption that the man will 'lie to everyone about that'. The man doesn't need to lie anyways, can just marry his second wife. You also said 'putting our daughters' and sisters' honour and lives at risk'. How is he putting the daughters and sisters 'honour' at risk? This is marriage! Haha. This is honour, instead of a man going around and fornicating with women down the street. And putting 'lives' at risk? The man is marrying another wife. He accepts responsibility so he is not putting her life at risk either. I believe some sisters tend to let their emotions stop them from accepting the truth when it comes to polygamy talk. Why is it a problem when a man wants to act upon his rights in Islam? It's a shame. Some women want Islamic rights, but don't want to allow the man to have his. May Allah forgive all brothers and sisters in Islam ameen.
@@999legend8 What if his other (secret) wives have std's. What if he has other children, his wife doesn't have a right to know that her children have half siblings? Stop talking without wisdom. Life isn't only about your rights, but how your actions affect the society you live in.
@@laila970 I ask Allah to forgive me for not fearing him anywhere near as I should. Thank you for the reminder. A question I have also is what do you mean 'wait until the secrets get out'? Serious question. Also I will reply to other things you said too please answer my question thank you. I ask Allah to forgive me for all my mistakes.
@@Reem-ne7nn If the man has gotten std he will tell his wife of course. And about other children, the first siblings are more important than half siblings. So there is more leniency here. Much more leniency.
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@@mohammedabdulsami781 ❤️ I am from Palestine
@@mohammedabdulsami781 I am Indian Muslim And I pray for my brothers in Pakistan 🇵🇰
I dont have a credit card or a debit card that will be accepted because it is from a foreign bank. Is there a way to use PayPal?
محمد انا اخوك محمد اعيش في امريكا وهذه قناتي اريد رايك فيها اخي الحبيب من فضلك انا عندي 17 سنه
24.11 made a recitational error, not سخطوا but كرهوا. Both mean to hate or dislike
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@@TheRockeyAllen or heart it because he pinned the Pakistan donation link
@@yusufdaoud5491 oh alright
didn't know only one comment could be pinned
23:56 👆👆👆 brother Mohammed Hijab mentioned the error
17:00 as well you missed:
وأظهره الله عليه
Mashallah very balanced & humble approach. We don’t want to cause our sisters pain, but just want them to understand a practising man’s point of view.
@King Sultan bro probably part of the production team 😝
@King Sultan pretty sure he was there
@@TheRockeyAllen more like a part of the herd
Respectfully Ali you need to think about other peoples ‘point of view’ when we were surprised to see you dine out with Pop Star Oli.
Not a man's point of view. A properly practicing Muslim's point of view. Let us not exacerbate the men-women divide.
thank you so much for raising funds for pakistani flood victims, Pakistanis are also trying to raise as much funds as we can and all of your support is extremely needed
Do you know that your government was supporting the Taliban? I just want to see if the Pakistani public knows this or not
@@peanutbutterman411 I would love to discuss politics with you but millions of pakistani people have died and all you can think about is politics? Do you think your govt has no treaties with numerous terrorist organisations, come out of your propaganda mindset and stop including politics in discussions about humanity
@@lybaonaiz91 Give no attention to these trolls brother/sister
We are one ummah. A Muslim is next of kin to another Muslim.
Al-Nu’man ibn Bashir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.”
We have each others' back, no matter what.
@@sub7se7en الله يخليك ❤️
One of the best acts of ibadah that Muslim performs and many overlook is Thinking positively of Allah is meant Allah will respond when offering supplication (du‘aa’); thinking positively that He will accept one’s repentance when repenting; thinking positively that He will forgive when seeking His forgiveness; thinking positively that He will accept good deeds when doing them according to the prescribed conditions, believing strongly that His promise is true and His grace is abundant.
"One day your actions will visit you, so don't be surprised when you see them."
Your soul is a completed novel, yet you spend your time reading other people & wonder why you still haven’t found yourself.
Happiness was asked: where do you live?
It replied: in the hearts of those content with Allaah’s decree
Amen
I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1 :33)
Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Abu Dawud 4390)
Murdered those who insulted him
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Quran 2:194)
Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's
position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)
Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Quran 33:50)
Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Permitted stealing from unbelievers.(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Murdered those who insulted him.(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"(Quran 2:194)
Ordered the murder of women.(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."(Quran 9:123)
Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq )
Killed captives taken in battle.(Ibn Ishaq 451)
Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.(Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24)
"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"(Quran 8:39)
Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man(al-Tabari 1440)
Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.(Bukhari 47:743)
What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149)
Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship(Quran 4:102)
Muhammed Advocated crucifying others.(Quran 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
I don’t need to discredit that which I don’t believe in. If what I’m arguing against, I truly believe is bad for you and for your soul, instead of trying to stop you, I’d rather let you make the mistake and learn from it and welcome you back with open arms whenever you do finally awaken to the truth.
I don’t have to discredit you, people learning by experience is doing it all for me.. I don’t need to say a single word
Really appreciate this topic being addressed brother Mohammed Hijab. Thank you may Allah swt grant you Jannah 🤲🏽 Ameen xo
My father married a second wife when I was like 7 (didn't last long) I have to say the house was in shambles and my mother (his first wife) was very distraught and was in tears for the first few days. (parents were only like 29 or 30 at the time) There are a few reasons why my mother was in such a state. First, my father was not giving her, her rights, second he was not providing enough for his first family, and lastly (just to name a few) he brought her (his second wife) into our already cramped, tiny house and converted the one extra room we had on the farthest part of the house (which was used as the "men section" when we had visitors) into her room. I would imagine that a woman would be very proud of her home and not be happy to have another woman intrude.
To make that worse, there was a couple we knew who divorced, and the mother abandoned her daughters and left islam (happened a few times with people we knew) and the father went off to another country to marry a new wife to be a "new mommy" for his girls, he left his daughters with us meanwhile. This lasted for about a month until my father and his second wife found a separate apartment for them and it was only fit for the other two girls to go live over there.
Tiny, cramped house that went from an already large 7 head family, to 10 in a matter of days, lol. A man with a big family and no money should not be marrying a second wife and should definitely have planned a bit better before marrying his first. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses, but a weakness everyone can experience at some point is definitely one of falling in love, so I do not blame my parents for marrying. My point; in todays time, in this westernized culture that we live in, very few men can actually manage to practice polygamy and even fewer can treat his wives equitably.
As far as I know, my father divorced her about 6 or 7 years into that marriage (or she died, because my dad would never really tell us much and was very vague) My parents also divorced after about 25 years of marriage. My mother worked full time and part time to make ends meet, because my father thought it fit to go to Thailand. Wa Allah hu'alam. May all forgive us our sins and protect us from the whispers of the shaitaan. Ameen.
Edit: removed the part about Thailand.
I am sorry for what your father did to you, your siblings and your mother. This actually happens a lot in Arab/Desi culture, and almost always they blame it on Islam and call it “Sunnah” or that it’s perfectly halal. Mohamed PBUH said to be good to the wives and daughters, so that doesn’t mean going to break their heart by marrying a 1-3 women for your own views and desires. Basically abusing the privilege. Marriage is a commitment, and HUGE responsibility. if you know you aren’t ready for this commitment, do not waste anyones time. MashAllah Allahummabarik to your mother for staying strong through it all and being there for you guys. I wish you all well and justice be served. Women these days are seeing the wrong through what men call right. And Allah knows best.
This is why God of the bible says a man and a woman leave their parents and become one!!!!! Yes, just one, to love and honour each other above all others.
@@bygrace24 I mean the Bible also says that its the woman's fault that Adam ate from the tree. With all due respect, Muslims have the Quran and do not value the words of the Bible as we believe that the true words of Jesus (pbuh) have been misunderstood and corrupted.
@@tunakpreston8240 please show me how they were corrupted? I'm sure you will find no evidence. This is something Muslim scholars like to say but there is no evidence of it having been corrupted at all throughout the ages.
@@tunakpreston8240 Muslims are told to value the Torah and the gospels. Mohamed even used the Torah to judge once, he put the Torah on the judgement seat and said there was light in there.
The opening itself was based off a misunderstanding. The sister meant that if a woman cheats then she's shamed (as she should in my opinion) and that if a man cheats then he gets married to the mistress "as a cover up" which taints the polygyny.
I hope he sees this.
Irrespective of whether husband or wife cheats outside marriage, they should be punished as per Islam.
@@realitybeckons4120 only if you can prove that they did which requires 4 truthful men.
@@DARTH-R3VAN but they will surely in hereafter
If man cheats then he is also wrong. This is simple to understand. I think Mohammed hijab does not claim this notion that if a man cheats he is not equally wrongly compared to women. Both have done sin. But if man marry 2nd time he is doing a sunnah!
Sufyan Ibn ‘Ayyinah said: “Having numerous wives is not (indicative of love)of the world because ‘Ali Ibn Abi Talib was the most ascetic of the companions of the Prophet and yet he had four wives and seventeen concubines.”
Then at least someone did not know the definition of ascetic, or he did not have so many wives and concubines.
Muzzle logic, lmfao.
@@Wabbelpaddel can you define us what an ascetic means and according to which Philosophical tradition?
concubines??
@@komi9261 Yes, war captive women with freshly slaughtered relatives.
A product of its time.
@@Wabbelpaddel at least better that killing litteraly all of the captives like America. They would probably kill the whole population of countries if they could just for oil. Your phrasing tells a lot about your personality.
Muslim men are allowed to marry " chaste" Christian or Jewish women not just any Christian or Jewish woman. People tend to ignore this fact.
very true. I know a brother who used to attend jumuah and then one day I found out his Christian with a Christian name and I thought he bacame murtad but when I asked him about it he said his mom is Christian and his father is Muslim but that he was always Christian and attended church on sundays. our young brothers don't think long term consequences unfortunately.
@@oulangkous718 that's such a bizzare thing to do.
Why do people forget the same is true about Muslim women? It's literally in the same verse.
"And permissible for you in marriage are chaste believing women as well as chaste women of those given the Scripture before you" [5:5]
how is that relevant to the topic being discussed here
@@uz327 because Muslim women are chaste by default and marriage to them is permissible by default, non Muslim women are an exception and chastity is a condition to marry them, while in the Muslim women case it is not a condition in the sense than the man does not ask about it , because chastity is presupposed . If he found out that she was not chaste then there would be different courses to choose from according to the case.
Many of my relatives married their cousins I known its halal but I don't prefer it. I DONT COME AND SAY marrying your cousin is haram or hate on them.
Why don't you prefer it?
@@petboy5839 just imagine you're married and your grandma calls you and you both say "YES".
@@petboy5839 and incase you want to divorce her you risk loosing your relationship with your releatives. Your uncle or aunt most likely won't see you the same as before cause you divorced their daughter
@@johncharles4146 I can understand no worries find someone who is good for u and ur imaan
@@johncharles4146 Even if your grandma call you and you both yes it's not a big deal lol. Anyway, I know a lot of Muslims are influence either from their non Muslim background or influence by non Muslims. They're judging right or wrong by the standards of non Muslims. But, if you look at the royal family they're completely different from what regular non Muslim society is preaching. They're marrying their cousins all the time.
JazakAllah khair brother Mohammad for speaking about the floods in Pakistan.
Brilliantly dissected, whilst recognizing where the sister may be coming from. May Allah reward you.
Allah might punish him for twisting quran. Allah forbade secret marriage in the quran, and Allah gave the woman the right to divorce when she fears indifference in the quran(which she can only do if she knows about the second wife).
@@TatiSahne Sis where in the video do you feel he twisted something and also
Where in the Quran does it say that explicitly regarding secret marriages and being allowed to divorce for indifference?
@@arrow760 Surah 4:25 and 5:5 secret marriages are made haram.
@@arrow760 Surah 4:128-130 woman are the one who are given the right to fair settlement or divorce when they fear indifference.
@@arrow760 Actually he twists in the entire Video. He twists peoples words. He twists the religion. Hes always doing that. He is evil.
Appreciate your logical, rational response to this topic which is highly, highly needed. Would be great if you and Honest Tea talk agree to have a discussion about this.
Clarifying the thinking and removing the confusion. Jazakallahu khayra ustathna الغالي. Alhamdilulah for those who are able to make aqeeda clearer in this time of conflicting voices and mis/information.
From All your presentations on matters of deen, this one was for me was the best. Very insightful well said and very clear. You dissect the issue vey well. May Allah reward you.
i agree...
I think you might be misunderstanding what she meant. I think she was saying, if a woman cheated on her husband, she will be blamed and written off (which is to be expected), but on the other hand, if a man cheated, he can just cover it up by marrying the woman she cheated with on the wife, and nobody will say a word (which is hypocritical). I might be completely wrong, but this is what I understood from the short clip you posted of her.
Also I want to add the ‘secret marriages’ that can feel like being cheated on.
I didn’t see it that way but I see where u coming from
@@veganinthecity3749 btw its not wajib to tell ur wife that ur marrying another one
No, she clearly is equating halal marriage to a second wife to a woman actually cheating. She said nothing about a married man having relations with a woman without marriage. Let’s stop making excuses for this sister. She was obviously hurt and was probably involved in a polygynous marriage.
A man cheats he cannot cover it up by marrying he's adultery woman that doesn't make sense at all he is cheating on his wife if she doesn't forgive him he is getting sentence on earth and the afterlife
my ex cheated n married again while i was with him, he had an affair n then did nikkah with her, i was a God conscious woman he abused me physically emotionally n mentally, not only did it break my heart my house but my soul, i went through a spiritual awakening , from becoming hopeless to being happy now i am grateful to my LORD alone for helping me in this test, i see the world differently now, im single mum of 3 i definitely cant trust men again bcz of this deep rooted trust issues now, i do frown on men marrying twice in this day n age because i know taking care of one with her full rights is hard enough without bringing another one,may Allah swt ease any womans pain who was unjustly dealt with ignorance n selfish desires, ameen thuma ameen🙏
women themselves are selfish and cannot come to terms that Allah has made it Legal for a man to marry 4 times,
If a man can give 4 wives their full rights then no woman has the right to speak against it,
your statement of
"taking care of one with her full rights is hard enough"
is a judgmental statement
you cannot judge all men and say that all men are incapable of marrying 4 times,
sometimes women themselves demand more from their man and envy other wives and cannot come to terms that her man is getting shared with another woman.
Once you leave Islam, you'll feel a lot better.
@@teec. Bro she just told you Believe in Allah IS what got her through the pain she went and is going through.And you're saying to her leave the only thing that's comforting you because I'm an internet seer and see you being happier when you do (Without even addressing the more important truth or falsehood of a religion).
A wife not aware of her hasband's another wife will not know if she is being treated equally or not. To exercise her right to demand fair treatment she must have knowledge about the other wife's condition. She cannot make any informed decision if she is being depreived of the information needed to make such decision. That is a violation of right.
I’m sure you feel that this makes sense
@@JSdeen87 Hindering someone from the information necessary to claim a right is a violation of right itself. It doesn't matter if any right is being violated or not,barring information to make that assessment is a violation of right. If you have a basic understanding how mutual agreements and contracts work you understand this too. That's why every social media app has terms of services.
@@JSdeen87 Hindering someone from the information necessary to claim a right is a violation of right itself. It doesn't matter if any right is being violated or not,barring information to make that assessment is a violation of right. If you have a basic understanding how mutual agreements and contracts work you understand this too. That's why every social media app has terms of services.
It's not a violation of right. A man can marry another wife without his other wife knowing.
@@windowview8240 The statements you came up with are invalid, a man does not require any form of consent/permission whatsoever from anybody to re marry if he wishes to, because that’s his right to even begin with. He can engage in it in his own discretion if he wishes to. The right for a woman to know is not compulsory but a man could communicate this after his second, third or fourth engagement, its all up to him since he is the manager of his relationships. Hope that helps.
May Allah safeguard the Muslims everywhere Ameen
imo talking directly with the sisters would be a better way of addressing them rather than in their absence and uploading publicly. I think these videos just fan flames or raise tensions whereas a better opportunity for naseeha or correction has been skipped.
Discussion is discussion
Some people let their emotions stop them from accepting the truth that Mohammed Hijab has just said, May Allah give Hijab every good.
When responding to something in the public domain, its is necessary to address it in the public domain. He is no airing anything that was said behind closed doors, but giving a balanced and counter to their PUBLIC stance. People with no islamic knowledge should refrain from publicly speaking especially when it comes from emotion and has not islamic backing. If you wish to talk publicly about something and cause fitnah then be prepared to be publicly refuted.
The issue is, the issue is public, so its being refuted in public, because its CAUSING HARM in the public sphere to the muslims and has HUGE ramifications
When a statement is made in public it can and should be refuted in public.
Women like this really confuse me. If you don't believe in Islam, just jog on.. but if you believe it's true, just shut up and accept Allah knows better than you and stop posioning the minds of the ummah just because you don't like something.
They want to behave like Christians and not follow their scripture in it's entirety i guess.
It doesn't really help when men cheat and flirt with women other than their wife and use the excuse that they are allowed multiple wives.
They are paid agents of the Western liberal secular propaganda
@@uok6216 Question to you: who decides what is morally okay or not, i.e where does your morality come from?
@@rayidzein she won't be able to answer that. It's already clear cut in our shariah.
Pray for Pakistan May Allah bless and ease their pain Ameen🤲❤
Wouldn’t the children from both marriages have to know of each other? Otherwise, keeping a second marriage a secret obviously causes the risk of incest. The argument for the permissibility's of a secret marriage makes no sense.
Secret marriage just sounds so silly and damaging and insulting to the women. Just be honest
these sisters never stated that polygyny is wrong or immoral. if you listened well, they talked about polygyny that is done wrong/ performed injust which ofcourse they find problematic. as simple as that.
how do you define that? what exactly makes it wrong or unjust?
We've all listened to it, tell me what wrong thing have they mentioned? Where have they said, " if he does that he did it wrong" u know what else they didn't say? How the prophet "did it" they just say we have the example of the prophet, that's it they don't mention what's good about it and they don't mention what's done wrong, it's all about, betrayel, how dare he, spiritual abuse blah blah blah, such cancer
@@ibadurrehman1210 when a husband does not treat the women equally, when he realises that he can not provide equally, when he commits zina first and then marries the women as a second wife, and so on ...
@@sab889 that's against Islam and nobody's defending that. If a man can't treat all his wives justly then its a grave sin, we all know that.
Honestly the women did not provide a description what the right way is and the right way is how the prophet and the sahaba did it and they didn't ask their first wife or second or third if they are allowed to marry another one and this idea would have never crossed the mind of the women back then. This is a new things that men ask for permission or consent.
Clear as crystal as usual mashaallah ,jazakallah'ul khayr ustadh Muhammad
I agree with what you said throughout the video but I think you understood the sister wrong. I believe she meant that women are looked down upon and shamed if they commit adultery but men who commit adultery may get a nikah afterwards to legitimize the relationship ... and is not looked down upon for the sin he has commit prior to the nikah
@Danny Al bro do you even realise what you are saying? Let’s for argument sake say she is right, are you saying that zina is ok for men?
Then this will not be an islam problem, because the punishment of adultery is the same for men AND women. Well why bring this point if it's irrelevant to islam?
Coming back to Hijab's meet analogy, it's like us discussing eating meet in islam and I'll say "well the problem is people look at vegetarians badly", simply you'll say "that's has nothing to do with islam" and my argument will be irrelevant.
In fact, assuming what you said is what the sister meant, it solidify brother hijab's point of view that the sister is considering her emotions as the base of truth. Because society do this and that when polygamy, and this and that heart my feelings, and islam allows polygamy then polygamy is bad and islam is wrong.
Women who commit adultery are weight more than men because she could get pregnant after.
Please stop justifying the toxicity these women are spreading
Adultery has the exact same punishment for men and women. That should tell you enough about the gravity of each sin in the eyes of Allah. Now, if a man marries the woman he cheated with, it doesn’t legitimize what they did before. But also the woman can do a similar thing: divorce the man she is married to and marry the one she cheated with. So the whole point is moot. Marriage after adultery does not legitimize the adultery committed before in no way, shape or form. The men who think that are extremely wrong.
My dad married a second wife when I was about 1 years old. My mother left him and before they got married (arranged) she said she will agree to the marriage if he agrees to never take another wife.
He agreed but broke the agreement so she left. When I was 18 he married a third wife, now he has two. The one he married while with my mom and the other. The original second wife of course did not take it well and they hated each other.
Both have their own houses so they stayed away from one another. However, now they are friends, not sure how that happened, especially knowing my first step mom I’m shocked it happened.
One of my close relatives has two wives and now both living in one house upper portion and lower portion. He did not inform second wife immediately but within 4 - 5 months he prepared her and when he realized she will be OK he informed her. There were some clash and jealousy between the two women but it worked out very well now and both are good friends and help each other. Infact both women mothers met each other and found out both are related and it increased their likeness to each other.
I think the acceptance of polygamy has a lot to do with culture since in west it is considered "harmful" and people born in west grow up with such ideologies it becomes harder to accept it emotionally. My wife even said to me that I can marry another women but I dont find any issue with my wife so I dont want to have second marriage but I am pretty sure it will be OK for her if I do.
It has lot to do with social engineering.
Yes the Prophet (saw) kept intimate things private and kept minor harful things private BUT HE NEVER KEPT A WHOLE WIFE SECRET FROM HIS OTHER WIVES.
There is no justification for taking a secret wife and making her to agree to be a secret from existing wife.
There is no excuse.
This topic is very triggering and hurtful for me.
Ive been harmed deeply by polygamy
I hear you brother. Although I don’t agree with the sisters attitudes towards polygyny, I think the sister referred to the double standards within the community where if a wife cheats she is outcasted whereas a man can cover it up through marriage after he has been caught.
I don't know how polygamy works in non Muslim countries, but in Islamic law , you need a consent from the first wife to be able to get into polygamy relationship.
@@_elifilen No you don't, if you do then prove it by sunnah or quran
@@abdoudz3388 Of course tou do cuz you cannot marry 2nd wife if you can not sexually please both of them and have wealth and status to go around.
but the topic wasn't that men cheat, it was about polygyny without the aspect of cheating. Why assume the man did haram with the girl before he made the girl his 2nd wife?
@@finalfrontier001 You do not need the first wife permission to marry another wife. A man must indeed be just with his wives and provide for them and treat them equally but he does not need the first wife permission to marry because that's just dumb and is nowhere in the shari'a
Jazakallahu kharain for speaking on floods in pakistan brother our city in upper sindh is surrounded by flood water and the danger of flooding the city's inner part still looms. However surrounding villages have completely been over run by flooding water. May Allah have mercy on muslims of pakistan and where ever they are who are going through hardships or persecution. Ameen
Thankyou brother Hijab for the wisdom imparted in this as well as numerous other sessions.
Mohammed Hijab is either clutching at straws or creating a straw man or both to try and portray sisters as the villains in polygyny and brothers as mere martyrs stuck in the toxic drama created by said “villains”. Yes, some women will not be able to accept being a co-wife even if the man follows Sharia however, it's a situation the man has to deal with with the correct adab and ahlaaq.
Polygyny practised in our way of life is a MAN issue and they have to deal with it respectfully which includes being dignified, decent, transparent and honest.
It’s a choice they make, not obligatory. Knowing that there may be fallout and planning on how to deal with it without oppressing their women must be considered before entering into a second, third or fourth marriage. The wife must be told of his intentions and be able to make decisions about her life. It’s common decency and not rocket science.
In this instance, the reasons to point the finger at sisters are simply thin to none. Women for once cannot be scapegoated on flimsy exceptions mentioned by Mohammed regardless of what the sister in the clip is saying, not saying, implying or not implying. This guy should actually deal with the adab of polygyny directly with men rather than by putting words into the sister’s mouth and refuting sisters’ feelings about it, all the while ignoring or deflecting the role men play in the situations being discussed.
FYI: a woman’s mental health and well-being is a perfectly good reason to seek divorce. Shame on you Mohammed for making it seem as if a woman has no choice or preference in her seeking divorce because she personally does not want to be in a polygynous marriage or that it’s haram for her to do so. Seeking and attaining a divorce would afford her the halal right to move on and remarry a like-minded Muslim man.
Lastly, what you fail to address are the broader implications of undisclosed polygynous marriages on the family and societal unit. Or perhaps you’re just ignorant there of. But using extreme arguments such as a woman weaponising the child against the husband or her hating polygyny or women to question her iman is simply ludicrous. If a man is deifying his wife’s reaction and his feelings then that’s tantamount to perhaps erring on the side of shirk. Simply put your video and refutation are biased and reminiscent of cultural and philosophical misogyny that is not Islamic or attributed to our Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Didn't Brother Hijab say that he is assuming the sister said something and is replying to it?
In essence Brother Hijab is himself telling that he is strawmaning. Also men are not Portrayed as martyrs, no one will praise a brother for marrying multiple women. What Brother Hijab is addressing about is how men are Portrayed as "villains" for wanting a polygomous marriage. Also polygamy is not just a "man's situation" to deal with it, remember the situation arises because there are 2 or more women involved, although I get what you mean.
Also what is the adab of polygamy? A Muslim man must inform his 1st wife that he is taking a second wife but he does not need permission of the 1st wife. He should honor his wives equally and provide them food, shelter and clothing.
Also please understand it is a wife's right to demand protection, clothing, food and shelter from her husband but it is not a wife's right to demand exclusivity of her husband. Also what "flimsy exceptions" are you talking about, these women speak as if polygamy is haram all the while disguising that it is halal if practiced in a proper way. Last video brother's Ali and Hijab challenged these women to tell men how to practice polygamy in a proper way.
Also FYI : "A woman's mental health and well being is perfectly good reason to seek divorce". Seek divorce and do what? Raise children in a single mother household and put their lives in jeapordy because you don't feel good or marry another man who should take care of you and your children because you didn't feel good. Do you even understand what you speak about? It's like divorcing because the husband is poor and you don't feel good.
My question is simple - If a husband provides for you, feeds you, shelters you and clothes you (all rights ordained by Allah) , why do you want to divorce him? Because he didnt ask your permission for 2nd permission? (even Allah didn't give women this right)
This is what feminism has done. It has made women self centered and Narcissistic. Women's well being is the most important thing!!! Go gurl !!! Yass Queen!!!
Women nowadays have fallen into this wrong notion of one man one woman. Islam doesn't say this. Women don't have right to exclusivity of her husband. Our prophet(saw) and Sahabas didn't ask permission from their wives not do they have to. Having said all this I would like to stress that it is the Husband's duty to inform his 1st wife that he is taking another wife. She has right to honesty from the husband. If the husband can't even tell the 1st wife about the marriage how can anyone expect him to be fair to her. Also I am not immune to the feelings of the women. I understand it must be very embarrassing to the 1st wife and the husband must be very careful in helping her deal with it. and both should work together in looking after the wellbeing of their marriage and children. But my point still remains - if the 1st wife feels embarrassed (and she has every reason to be) both the husband and wife should work together to help her overcome it, but under no circumstances should she ask for divorce if the husband takes care of all her rights just because her mental wellbeing is affected (which is a fancy way of saying she is bummed out)
That's all I wanted to say sister. Sorry if I had been harsh at places but please know that my intention was right. I rarely comment in RUclips videos but your comment was so thoughtful and clever but was wrong in just in one perspective and I wanted to correct it. ASSALAAMU ALAIKKUM from India.
Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏
@@KS-vm5yj the problem is that they believe the divorce will help them in the mental health capacity. What’s worse is that if they have small children and the women decides to remarry those children must go with the husband. Is she ready for that?
@@KS-vm5yj A Muslim man does not need to inform his first wife that he is taking a second wife.
SCENARIO: you hide your second wife from your first wife. Then you have children from both. Is there not a danger in these children growing up, not knowing about each and possibly becoming attracted to one another. How is it possible to hide the second wife in this scenario? It is important the children grow up together as to not create this risk, no?
In that case if the children know about each other the first wife is bound to know about the second. This whole argument makes no sense. Sorry.
I dont think he said this is what a person should do.. whats best is the man is straight up and just do it!
What the hell. What kind of grasping at straws argument is this
@@Ahmed-DB it’s not grasping at straws, it’s more common than you think! And it’s a risk nonetheless. Siblings have to know one another, the argument that you don’t have to tell your wife is a silly and desperate attempt to justify cheating/deception
@@spff-gg7tq its not. You do know that no man makes both thsoe wives live near each other. Usually even in a different country. So no. The children dont know eachother and wont be attracted to each other since they wont meet. So no. Ur argument fails
@@Badui-wg6ms you do know it’s compulsory upon every Muslim to keep ties with family, and know one another. So yes my argument still remains. And it’s not sustainable long term for a man to live in between two countries.
She was clearly talking about men having lovers (while married) that later become wifes. Mr Mohammed, bad call.
She literally just meant that no one, woman or man, should not cheat. Either way it is wrong, but when a man does it, no one looks at it for what it is. You are over conflating what she said and telling muslim men to not be honest.
✨Marrying another wife is not cheating✨
@@DARTH-R3VAN but in the video of the woman she said that a man cheats (she meant out of wedlock) and THEN COVERS it up with marriage. She never said polygamy was cheating.
@@tiredgamer242 it's definitely evil but you cannot practice the hudood without the man either admitting it himself, or you bring 4 male truthful witnesses who were with you to watch him commit adultery.
@@DARTH-R3VAN Yeah, and the same goes for a women. Regardless of if you can prove it or not Allah treats us equally and if someone is cheating, male or female, they will answer to Him.
That’s not what she was saying AT ALL. She was clearly trying to say that men can get away with zina while women cannot. It’s based entirely on her feelings, and she’s using it to argue against polygyny and banning it without directly SAYING she is against it.
Around 18:10 “the children being used as a weapon against the man” FACTS 💯
It works the other way around too...just not as often. I have seen it. Children shouldn't be used as weapons period.
Exceptions make the rule, not disprove it. If 99.999% is one way-you don’t point to the remaining 0.001% to say that they both have equal weight/impact, do ya??
I agree, kids shouldn’t be used like that period, but let’s not be disingenuous. If men even *could* do that, fem*inists would immediately lobby to put a federal law in place to make it illegal for men to do so.
Besides how could men “use” something they don’t have ANY access to and can only see once for 2 every two weeks for 2 hours while “under officer supervision” 🤦♂
@@moe3235 I never said exceptions disprove the rule but exceptions matter when you have personal experience with the exception like I have. I don't think the exception on this is only 1% of the time either.
@@moe3235 btw...the case I am thinking of the mother is a Muslim (convert) and the father isn't. There could be some Islamophobia involved with the court favoring the father and him alienating the children.
I mean...
If a woman has 4 husbands, and each one comes to her on the same day saying they each want a child. Imagine the pain of the man who goes last. Poor guy has to wait over 36 months (have to account for how long after one pregnancy is a woman able to conceive again). Seriously imagine that. And on top of that, if the wife is pregnant for one man, that man is not going to be happy knowing her other husbands are intimate with the wife while his baby is in her womb! 😭🤢 So even intimacy will be affected. it just doesn't work the other way.
On the other hand, a man with 4 wives if he is healthy, can impregnate all his wives in a single day if they all wanted children at the same time. and since they are all his children, intimacy isn't affected.
Bruh that's disgusting for any women doing that bruh
@@bigsam5588 Polyandry is big in many cultures. But whether they work or not is a whole other thing.
@@uok6216 many people do. Its a common question or objection. So he just brought it up. It isn't necessary that the comments should directly respond to the video.
@@PerigoBerro Many cultures? Like which?
Excellent factual presentation, well done!
This is the Muslim version of Andrew Tate, fun fact he is also a fan of Andrew Tate .
Someone needs to address the higher chances of getting an STD or STI for the man and his wives. It can also develop into an HIV and cause fertility issues on the long run.
I personally refuse to sleep with my husband just knowing that he might get me an STD or STI, or even cause fertility issues for me. Some of those diseases stay with you permanently like Hepatitis B, herpes, HIV, and HPV. AND women are more prone to give Cervical cancer if their husband is sleeping with other multiple wives.
SEX EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESED !!
I understand your concern but your husband having multiple wives is not the same as sleeping around. The risk would be if he was cheating on your with multiple women who are also being sexually active with other people. The only way you can get those STIs is if one of the wives have it and pass it on but if they are his wives then they should be okay with getting checked, as it is part of a responsible relationship which marriage is.
These men are deep in Manosphere content. Touching grass is essential.
multiple wives came out of cultural context that cannot be tried today. not with a mindset the current people have.
It was good for old times when a lot of women were widowed.
I just cannot imagine my mother or sister relegated to 1/4th of a role today
Polygamy is not your right, rather it is merely permissible in Islam. If it was your right as a man why does it come with conditions? Let’s be just, most men cannot observe polygamy right. Most women would also not want it. So where do we go from here?
So, if something has conditions it's not a right?
@@Ahmed-DB if it was your right wouldn’t all of us have easy access to it? Rather it’s only the minority that have access. Stop with the semantics
@@hafsa671 No they wouldnt? What sort of fallacious argument is this? Do you believe humans have right to food, shelter, education? If you do, then by your logic I can ask you "if that were the case why are many people homeless, starve and illiterare?
@@Ahmed-DB you make no sense lol. Food is a necessity whilst another wife is merely an addition. One is a human right the other isn’t smh. Now get off the internet and stop arguing your case of wanting another woman to a stranger, rather go make money and educate urself on your Deen so you may JUST be of the few that are allowed. Salam
@@hafsa671 there is also condition for eating foods.
Tbh I don't think the sister was equating polygyny with cheating. She seemed to be saying that if a woman cheats she is immediately shunned by everyone. However, when a man cheats, he can hush it up by marrying the woman and nobody bats an eyelash.
Why would a man cheat if he can just marry another wife… it’s almost like that is ONE of the benefits of polygyny is to stop men from cheating.
Internationally or unintentionally Allah knows best
@@YahyaAwake Second wives have rights. He would need to provide for her equally as his first wife, she can choose not to work and have her husband provide for her. She can he even demand seperate housing from the first wife. There's a very big difference from a second wife and a mistress.
@@YahyaAwake It's a shame how women want a man to understand their nature, but some women totally disregard the nature of men.
@@mohamedmo8128 obviously second wife has rights… but she can request way less than the first wife if she wants. Also ur wrong. U can’t treat them equally it’s literally humanly impossible to do the same exact for your wives, but the correct word is u need to be JUST meaning u have to give them their rights and do ur best with providing for them. Pray to Allah the women make it easy as well
A question regarding this video: This video has automatically generated translations (alhamdullillah) with the option to automatically translate. While the translation is often understandable it often simply cannot follow your academic and more complex terminology (allahumma barik) thus making the translation not useable at certain places in the video. I'd like to make a german translation for this video for my german sisters because I think it could really benefit them, in sha Allah. I'd also check up many words you're using in my german grammar dictionary to be sure.
With respect, the sisters were talking about ‘secret second wives’ and no, the Prophet (sas), nor the Sahabah did that…. I think you’re losing the plot on this one Bro Hijab and you’re failing to acknowledging the great problem and devastation caused by secret second wives ….. polygyny is not the problem…..”secret/hidden marriages” involving deceit, lies and betrayal is the problem …. Come on Muhammad Hijab , be fair 😞
He did acknowledge it, he said it's allowed to not tell the 1st wife.
No marriage can be hidden while all polygamous marriages must be fair. If this cannot be maintained or you're not sincere you are taking a risk with your deen. Allah knows best. In my experience too many bros haven't even paid off their haram mortgage and they're lining up a secret second wife in some impoverished village in their immigrant homeland whom they cannot declare or grant the same lifestyle in their new adopted Western home or chosen legal jurisdiction. Can't cherry pick your laws and claim the moral high ground and this goes for bros and sisters
@@panigALI1199s disgusting
@@BigBangMemo disgusting, but then Allah is the greatest of deceivers
He's lost the plot on everything 🤔
I would really love to know what man is capable of more than one wife. Treating all equally and taking financial care of them. It causes so much pain to the woman.
@L C helper* may I remind you that The permission of a man taking 4 wives was set to (protect women), not for them to become your helper, nor for them to satisfy your wild fantasy
@L C Sisters tend to get their emotions involved when it comes to polygamy, and it clouds their judgement.
@L C 💀helper shouldn’t even be in the same sentence as wife, dude you need self improvement asap 👀🫢
@L C it’s just how you said it i-🤦♀️👀 you should really work on yourself, start with the misogynistic mentality💀
@L C La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah, I’m gonna pray for your future wife, really no woman deserves that… your attitude speaks volumes💀…Good bye
I agree with the academic points in this video, jazakallah.
However, I am concerned that, unintentionally, you have in turn created shubha about the matter of divorce and khul', and humbly ask for you to clarify this matter in full and ideally retract some of the way you have framed it.
Unfortunately, your assertions about not appealing to empathy were lost when considering this matter. In the last video especially and somewhat in this one, you described ideas of "breaking the home" and "impact on children", in a similar fashion and with emotive language that you have criticised others for using. Right and wrong isn't about who you love" were your words - so this applies to men and children too. A woman seeking divorce has no correlation with her love for her children, just as a man seeking polygyny has no correlation with his love for his first wife. There are many situations where a woman is seeking divorce to prevent greater sin than if she stayed.
The way you have represented khul' is also incongruent with the Jumhur opinion, and also, that of the Islamic Sharia council UK, which reiterates "There is no restriction on the grounds for divorce." on its website.
You gave the fragrance of paradise Hadith (goes without saying I very much accept and love this Hadith) but did not clarify the flexibility in this Hadith i.e "absolutely necessary" which can include ill feeling following polygyny. This has dangerous ramifications when considering this Hadith:
(Sahih Bukhari)
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The wife of Thabit bin Qais bin Shammas came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I do not blame Thabit for any defects in his character or his religion, but I am afraid that I (being a Muslim) may become unthankful for Allah's Blessings." On that, Allah's Apostle said (to her), 'Will you return his garden to him?" She said, "Yes." So she returned his garden to him and the Prophet told him to divorce her.
Narrated 'Ikrima: The sister of 'Abdullah bin Ubai narrated with the addition that the Prophet said to Thabit's wife, "Will you return his garden?" She said, "Yes," and returned it, and (then) the Prophet ordered Thabit to divorce her. Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The wife of Thabit bin Qais came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! I do not blame Thabit for any defects in his character or his religion, but I cannot endure to live with him." On that Allah's Apostle said, "Will you return his garden to him?" She said, "Yes."
The Prophet PBUH did not question Thabit's wife on the claim that "she could not endure to live with him" or she "may be unthankful". The way you discuss khul' risks the implication that the Prophet PBUH was too lenient in this Hadith.
This is such a necessary topic to address! If you be transparent with you partner to such a degree which you're not religiouly obligated to then you're throwing yourself into destruction. That woman who you love and think is sweet, has the capacity in her to be an terrible oppressor. If you foolishly give her the ammunition then she WILL use it against you. Especially young ignorant women (they might wear hijab and pray 5 times a day) who incline to feminism than Islam.
“But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses.”
The question is can these poor oppressed brothers actually deal justly between 2 wives? They can only take more than one wife on the condition they can be just - time, affection, resources and so much more. Most can’t but that hasn’t stopped men from ignoring the actual condition set out by Allah.
@@supersleepymedic would those Muslim women who complain about polygamy spouting unsubstantiated claims like you have done be ok with their spouses taking another wife if he were to treat them as per the Quran and the Sunnah?
Be honest, they would not be ok even if that were the case.
Obviously she did not mean stepping out in that way. How is it not clear to you. I watch a lot of your videos and you are right on polygyny but insinuating that she might meant something else is very very strange.
He said he was going to employ husn lthan and not go by the official understood definition of stepping out, so even though I disagreed with the entire video this is one point I do agree with.
My dear brother, may Allah reward you, you show excellance when explaining things using islamic evidence and expression. Even if some words you say are not from our vocabulary sometimes, one still gets the point.
As salaamu aleykum from Germany.
Speak for yourself bro.
My wife could have used her God given right to demand an impossible Mahr from me which would have caused me a lot of difficulty, but she understood my situation, and without me coercing her in any way, she decided to make it easy on me and make our marriage easy all by herself. Now everyday I try to be the best man to her. It's not about reason versus emotion and one being better than the other, but how much you care about your spouse at the end of the day and how easy you want to make their life.
My brothers always refer to the Sunnah of our Prophet (PBUH) marrying multiple wives, I look at his Sunnah of the first woman he married, stayed loyal to her for 25 years and she was the love of his life and he stayed monogamous with her till she passed away and even then he was stricken with grief. That's the kind of marriage I desire and I want. Both are sunnahs, so don't tell me that one is more sunnah than the other. It's all about your perspective and the kind of relationship you want with your wife.
You gotta decide if it's worth it to you making your wife non-exclusive, and using shariah to defend her being in that position.
May Allah reward you brother
“It takes a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies, but even more to stand up to your friends.” - J. K. Rowling
What are you on about and why are you quoting an lgbtq supporter ?
Instead maybe read about Aisha or Khadija radia allah 3anhom don’t be ignorant
@@AhmedASE I don't see anything wrong in what the sister(?) said, take it easy.
That quote could've been written by a 14 year old.
There's no wisdom in that quote, really
Just because something is halal, doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do. Money alone is not a good enough reason to do whatever you want. FOR EXAMPLE, just because you are a millionaire, doesn't mean that it's morally OK to have 20+ children that you won't even have the time to raise and take care of.
THATS why Allah created a conscious, empathy, and our use of discretion in these situations. WHICH is why we are the smartest beings on earth. Islam is not a one size fits all. OTHERWISE, there would be no Dunia and everything would be perfect. There's a Grey area in some cases.
For example, if a husband have 4 wives, but all of them have very high sex drive. How can he possibly fulfill that? What part of equate does these men don't understand?? Marriage initself is a huge responsibility. Let alone trying to equate financially, emotionally, and sexually between the 4 wives. Some women have PCOS or a hormonal imbalance which triggers that high sex drive.
RISKS of STDs and STIs and how it affects fertility for men and women. Is no one gonna talk about that? Some risks like HIV, HPV, Hepatitis B, herpes are permanent and you'll need medications for life. Let alone you can transmit the disease sexually to you wives and affect their fertility/reproductive health because of having more than one sexual partner.
If a wife is going through a postpartum depression and can't have sex with her husband because it's painful. HOW is it morally right to marry someone else at that time ?? Postpartum depression is a real mental illness that have a VERY high rates of suicide.
I'm not against Allah's words. But it should not be a common practice if the husband is fulfilled and happy with his wife. I'm a psychology student and can assure you that polygamous relationships doesn't last one bit. And the most successful long lasting marriages are monogamous.
PLEASE EDUCATE yourself about basic biology and human anatomy, and psychology before claiming that it's OK for everyone without ADDRESSING all the risks and then make a conscious decision that you can face Allah with.
Thank you for listening to my Ted talk :). I hope you all stay healthy and safe.
" I am going to reward your honesty with destruction " Habibi Mohammed You crushed it. The only reason they want to know is so they can cause absolute destruction.
Haqq
No. There should be basic manners and empathy involving discussions like these
@@MH-bf4uu Saying to “have empathy” and “good manners” on this is a scapegoat to justify hating what Allah SWT Allows. They only say they hate on how it’s being said to continue hating WHAT is being said. Just stop already.
@@JamesBond-wv9xz how are they hating what Allah Swt allows? They didn't say polygamy is bad. Rather, it is the way some brothers go about it which is the issue
@@MH-bf4uu They are insinuating it’s bad by implying that this is the only way polygyny is done.
I love you for the sake of Allah MH. Thanks to Allah for guiding me towards your work and yt channel. May Allah bless you and your family, zzk
This is the MOst Important channel for me.❤️
man can take a second wife if he is providing for his first wife and is man enough to provide for his second wife like he is providing for his first wife not his wife has to provide for him and his second wife That is the consent of the first wife and she can divorce her husband even though he is providing for both of them she may not get along with the second wife and doesn't want to be a part of her husband and his second wife
Bro please read what you wrote and make it more simples jazak Allah
Basically Muslim man can have up to 4 wives if he can be just.
He doesn't need first wife permission it would be kind to inform her I'm marrying 2nd wife but thats up to him and Allah knows best
If Muslim women wants to divorce because she doesn't want her husband to do polygamy then you have to encourage her to be patient as Qur'an encourages Muslims to be patient
You need to watch first part of this reaction video called reaction to honest tea talks about polygamy.
Divorce is most hated thing to Allah in permissible things
Do you most single women families are broken most kids from single mother families are criminals etc.
And Allah knows best
@@nobodyisborngayislam polygamy creates partially single-mother since the husband goes from a full-time husband and father to a part-time husband and father assuming he's following polygamy the right way and equally dividing time between all families. some women are okay with this set up but it's just not the same dynamics as a two-parent monogamist household
@@blumachine Some men work abroad, you wouldn't call their wives "single mothers".
@@mohamedmo8128 if she has full resposibility of the children while he's abroad then she is completely different to the woman who has her husband living with her 24/7. so while she's not completely a single mother since she may be recieving support that single mothers may not have access to, which is why i said they are "PARTIAL" single mothers
@@blumachine in Islam we don't follow people's opinions like yours we follow the quran and sunna. What you are suggesting is a perfect world which doesn't exist. Islam is all about balance and polygamy is part of that
Brilliantly argued by Brother Hijab. He is becoming a giant in Dawah Masha Allah argues Islamic text with really sharpened philosophical tools. May Allah SWT give him good health and long life and allow him to keep contributing.
It’s not just man’s right, these feminists are taking away, also they are trying to take away other women’s right to marry a married man who they find to be suitable for their needs.
Polygyny benefits women way more than it benefits men.
May Allah ﷻ give us understanding of his deen.
Ameen
this is true 💯
Nobody took away anything from these lustful beasts. Just find women that are compatible with your mindset and mention polygamy before marriage. Simple.
Ahhh, then why do Syrian and other female refugees are still suffering? Man, why don't you take 4 of those women refugees as wives? Why go after virgins as for 4 wives all the time, haaa? If you want to help these much to women species, then please marry 4 refugees women with their children and set an beautiful example... And then come and talk about how healthy & helpful is polygamy for women more then men, yaaaahh....
It seriously scares me how many thinks keeping your second wife a secret from your first wife is okay, and then continuing to live a double life🥴, this is the practice of the devil
When did devil marry for the second time ?
It's not the practice of the devil. Please don't post ignorant statements. It's not a 'double life' because the man is just acting upon his rights in Islam. The man does not have to tell the first wife about the second wife anyway, so it doesn't have to be called a secret. The man is not sinful in this circumstance.
@@999legend8 the wife needs to know stop saying fake stuff, you don’t need her approval but she needs to know and yes this is the practice of the devil, may Allah put men who thinks like this far away from innocent women Ameen, La hawla wa la quwwata illa Billah 😦🫢💀
@@kareemkhan-hv1yp “practice of the devil meaning” it’s his ideas not Islam 🤦♀️
@Ram Chod “practice of the devil meaning” it’s his ideas not Islam 🤦♀️
Here is a slightly different answer to the usual question about, so why can't women have more than 1 husband if the man can have multiple wives? - Becuase if it was the case that both men and women were allowed to have more than 1 spouse, then there will be no point of a marriage at all!! - Because each women could be married to different men, who in turn could have different multiple wives, who in turn could have different multiple husbands. And there could be no end to this grouping sets. So therefore, no point in a marriage exisitng in society! (BTW Mashallah. Great point about women vs women issue!)
Plus there is the issue of paternity. And women dont have the biological capability to truly love and respect more than 1 man. Women also have a very limited reproductive window, and can only carry kids from 1 father at any particular time. A guy could have multiple kids with multiple different women at the same time. There is biology, physiology and psychology taken into account with islamic laws
How would it ever work logicstically. Who decided to get her pregnant ? Do they rock paper scissor it ?
@@HowTwo007 The paternity problem is one if the biggest issue in my opinion, also men are territorial beings, we are very protective of our possessions including our spouses.
It's simple. Women receive, choose and remember, men release tension. They go on about their day. Women don't.
@Atheism Rocks! so does your life , its not your posession
It is already a heavy thing on the existing wife but when the men do it harmfully we are expected to not be upset! When will tbe men address the oppresive practices of polygyny instead of always criticizing the women When we are harmed by polygyny
It's odd that society can accept multiple partner relationships outside marriage as fun, yet view polygamy, i.e more than 1 wife given legal rights as oppression and transgression?
It is oppression when only one gender is allowed to do that, and their wife does not have to give consent.
@@seekthetruthfindit6879
She has the right to leave the marriage. It is God's wisdom not to allow women to have multiple husbands...Saying that any sensible normal man will not take on the headache of second marriages anyway. A lot more easier to for the god fearing to remain with 1 wife...or for the less God fearing to cheat behind her back as is the norm in today's secular society....
@@Shahid-if4ws You do not seem to be married yourself.
First, she might have children that would have to stay with the father (after a certain age).
Second, she will have to ask for a divorce and give up her mehr.
Thirdly, her family might not want to take her back in, and she must always be with a mahram...
Consequently, she is stuck and worse off. Often, she might only find out her husband has a second wife when a child is on its way.
My ex took me as a second wife. I did not know there was a first. His family and friends all lied to me, and even after I found out, they excused his behaviour.
Anyways, I left religion 10 years ago as I started to see it for what it is: man-made for men. Even in Jannah, men are better off.
Fun- question: How did Adam who was 39 m tall build and fit into the kaaba (15m)?
@@seekthetruthfindit6879
I am married thanks, and have no intention of doing a second. It seems to me that either you are not telling me the truth or you were naive...you should have involved your wali/parents in the marriage process...they should have done a proper research on the man you married, also I doubt if everyone lied to you about his first marriage...and the whole purpose of walima is that everyone knows of the marriage...and you should have got the marriage registered....it is unlikely that if you followed the procedures his first marriage was kept secret....
And clearly you need to seek the truth about Allah and his religion before slandering it;
Surah Ar-Rad, Verse 1:
المر تِلْكَ آيَاتُ الْكِتَابِ وَالَّذِي أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ الْحَقُّ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ
These are the verses of the Book; and that which is revealed to you from your Lord is the truth, but most people do not believe.
Quraan God's Word;
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Sad to see that you think Allah is unjust...🤦🤷
Apply all ayahs on both genders. Men who have failed at keeping the first wife and kids happy should not be seeking second wives
Jazak Allahu khair for dealing with this fitna
Yes my brothers keep it up 💯 ❤ from uk England 🇬🇧. Birmingham umar ❤ 💯💪💪💪🤲
In this day & age men should practice polygam. This can solve many problems.
Women population is more than men(this is just one reason)
The ones that do practice unfortunately they are not practicing it correctly
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@@Amy623
That’s there fault if they aren’t practicing correctly. It’s not a rocket science.
@@Amy623 Explain how they are doing incorrectly?
Ignorance
Jazakallah chair for that explanation
Wow never seen someone say so much without saying nothing. He has literally been trying to downgrade these sisters and discredit them by taking them
out of context. All she was trying to say was that, when Muslim men cheat on women, the community tries to “fix” the problem by offering marriage to the cheating couple to help them rectify their affairs, in other words the men get a lot of support. Whereas, if women fall into the same sin, they are ostracised and driven out of the community with no support or a way out through repentance etc, it’s almost seen as worse even though it’s the same sin. There’s no need for all the intellectual jargon or the misinterpreting of her words. The point here, is not only the discrepancy within our community, but that when OTHER Muslim women witness this discrepancy in the community, it has a negative flow on affect on them and it can lead them to feel bitter and possibly distant from the community and by extension Islam. It’s just a perspective, calm down, what a batikha.
He actually said alot you just don’t like it that’s all
Exactly. And then hijab titles the video “equating polygamy with cheating” when in the beginning of the video he admits that she might not have meant it like that. What are people going to assume after seeing such a title? This is basically slander. Why doesn’t he contact sr Sumaya and ask for a clarification? This refutation culture of Muslims on RUclips against one another really worries me.
💯!!!!!!!🤦🏽♀️
@@JSdeen87 he over complicates matters and created something out of nothing
@@mais6306 it is slanderous because many people are just going to see that title against her pic and assume the worst, many will probably not even watch the video but that title will stick. It’s a cheap shot at clicks and views and very immature. It’s disgusting that he is doing this to sisters who are genuinely some of the most respected modest sisters, they are simply doing their best to be a voice for sisters in the community, but here comes the big man stepping on their efforts by dropping F Bombs like feminism and trying so hard to publicly defame them so he can derive some cheap views. I honestly believe Allah swt will humble him in time inshallah
Great video. I can't believe how many sisters are in favour of the overdramatic and gaslighting attitude of the sister here.
The discourse of this, pro and against, has been so polarised online it's draining and exhausting.
The spiritual bankruptcy comment took me out 😂😂😂😂
Bro where do you come up with the creative vocabulary collabs 😂 الله يحفظك اخي ❤️
Love from Pakistan
Im still confused as to why Hijab never mentions men only women, adam and slim sleep with transgenders, slim got caught sleeping with a transgender only fans model and his wife left him and both adam and slim have kept quiet there is literally dozens of video footage of her also just hanging out in the evenings at their hotel and watching tv with them before the incident took place. why doest hijab or ali dawah make videos about those guys Why do dawah people rush to go after dina tokio for taking of her scarf (im not a fan of her at all and i think she was embarrasing the nonsense she wrote on her blog after she took of her scarf) but they go quiet when the male muslims do far worse. I am actually a support hijab, ali and smile 2 jannah never seen any issues in what they say but the fact they go after women but not the guys in islam is getting strange.. also i do not like the honest tea talk girls I watch 2 or 3 of their videos a long time ago and knew it wasnt for me so im not a fan of theirs either. Maybe he never knew of this transgender outing perhaps? but if he looks it up he will see clear evidence of the messages and she was even on stories with slim and adam at night in the hotel hanging out.
They doing haram on personal level , they don’t wanted to be exposed but she did it on public level exposing her ideas .
thats pretty gross
Bruh don't expose this shit I don't want to know others business of what they did.
No point in talking about someone sins because we all sin.
We don't know what really happened.
May Allah SWT forgive them and us.
@@BlackJack-lg3vx they made a video about her taking off her scarf and in the same video Hijab said he thinks she’s going through something .. if he knows there may be issues we don’t know of then why make the video in the first place about her taking off her scarf.. unfortunately as a scarf Is a visual thing it will be noticed it can’t be covered up like other sins etc.. and it was just very judgemental I’d rather a women try wearing hijab dozens of times than to never try at all.. if Dina tokio got exposed for sleeping with trans men whilst married they wouldn’t keep quiet the way they did for slim
@@bigsam5588 there’s a video of slim commuting adultery.. You can’t say we don’t know video evidence says so
Jazak’Allāh kheir 🤲🏽💫
I’m not too sure whether it’s just the environment I’ve been in but obviously growing up under these western ideals while balancing it with Islamic fatwa, I just don’t think I’d ever necessarily be interested in polygamy. I have someone I’m getting engaged to very soon and inshallah it goes smooth but just as a disclaimer, I know I’m not a fortune teller, but I don’t think I’ll ever want more than one wife and I wouldn’t need it. Why would you want to put your wife through that pain? That’s something I don’t understand. I accept that it’s true and someone can do it if they cater for all wives equally, but I’m not sure how this goes hand in hand with respecting my first wife. The same protective jealousy a man has over their wife can surely be perceived in the reverse, no? I think that for whatever reasons in the past or perhaps in the present, most circumstances I see nowadays or those that are made visible in media are those polygamous marriages which Muslim men perpetuate their lust via Islamic fatwa. I know a lot of “double standards” don’t necessarily have any basis since men and women are clearly different both psychologically and physically. But when it comes to polygamy I don’t think I’ll ever find an understanding as to why someone would do that.
If anyone can reply in such a way that I can learn, I’d be appreciative. A lot of men can barely look after themselves anyways tbh so I don’t think they should even have the audacity to be wanting a second wife 😂 but yeah.
Be careful with your wording Brother the prophet had 9 wives. I Hope somebody can explain multiple wives to you, Wish i could
Most people that get married don’t think of marrying more than one . But guess what there’s a chance if your a healthy man you’ll desire another women. No matter how beautiful your wife maybe your natural desires would want more women . The only difference would be if you go ahead and do it or not
The Prophet (saw) had more Gheyrah (protective jealousy) than you, & he had 9 wives at one time. And his wives (ra) had jealousy too.
The Sahaba (ra) had more Gheyrah than you, and they had multiple wives as well as right hand possessions with whom intimacy is permissable for a man.
You are not better than them. If you don't want to practice it, fine. But don't make emotion-based statements like this which have no basis in Islam as the best men of this Ummah from the best generation had multiple wives.
@@YeOldVisigoth I’m not saying that my statement has a basis Islamically. I’m talking about what I understand and making basically something close to an enquiry so that I may understand. Obviously such people are better than me in terms of protective jealousy etc, and there’s no doubt. But there’s also no doubt that this was a generation of people from long ago. I believe that Islam will never change and its values are timeless. So it’s not that I disagree with it, if someone feels as if they want to do such a thing go ahead. But even back then, how could a person marry a woman and then proceed to marry another? It is definitely not wrong. But it is something that my emotions do not align with and I’m attempting to see if there is reasoning behind it. If it is something alike to something being forbidden and it is Allah’s decree then so be it. But if there is genuinely a reason, it would at least help me come to understand.
@@amrosaleh2935 The prophet Saw had multiple wives yes? That’s all you have to say to convince yourself to get multiple wives? The prophet was also the most high value man, he treated every single wife with the same respect and met their emotional needs, he provided for them, for the children, he could handle that, and don’t forget that he never married anyone else when he was with the woman he loved most, Khadijah (ra). The brother makes an understanding point about personally not wanting multiple wives, if a man sees one wife fit and especially because it’s within his means to only provide for one family, than that is better for him than chasing after a polygamous marriage where he can end up ruining family bonds and do a lot more harm in the eyes of Allah than actual good. May Allah keeps us humble and have true niyyah in our affairs.
Very very very good explained
Totally agree with all the points you mentioned. Maa shaa Allah. Allahumma baarik.
Firstly, I’d like to say that there are many polygynous marriage stories that I know and heard of that are successful. But people always prefer to dig out polygynous marriages that are failing or are in a big mess.
Secondly, let’s be honest, all marriage - whether people are in monogamous or polygynous marriages - have problems. Have you ever heard of a perfect marriage? No. With this in mind, these ladies might as well consider marriage as a whole a taboo. Nevertheless, it is Allah who legislated both types of marriages and they both have positive impact on society from an Islamic, social, psychological, financial and moral perspective. And therefore, whether or not they agree with Allah and His messenger, it doesn’t take anything away or belittle His perfect legislations. And like you said, brother Mohammad, it only proves that they have a more deeper problem.
how many u know that are successful.. i mean if u lie about it, hide it from ur wiffe / family than get caught than it is like cheating cuz ur hiding and lying .. our prophets and there companions and there family never hid marriages from family and there wives
@@e.k874 my own family. I come from a family of two mums. My dad married twice. Please don’t accuse people of lying.
Those sisters don't have much of a clue about anything tbh.
this should be posted on the muslim marriage subreddit
Beautiful refutation!
Polygamy is BASED
Thankyou again brother
The issue is females today talk based on there own personal experiences through life and try to turn the pain or experiences and opinions into the truth/fact. It's like the people that leave there religion and talk a whole bunch of negativity afterwards because there basing it all on what they went through growing up, don't blame the religion blame the individuals. So if a dude cheated ect don't blame the religion blame the dude.
Ok? Isn't it better for some with experience to speak, than some idiot with privilege to preach? Polygyny is disgusting, and so is Islam. There was no reason a 50 year old should've married a 6 year old. If it was about her life, he could've adopted her! He had so many wives that could've raised her. Why didn't he just open up an orphanage? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep the young girls at work in the orphanage than marrying them to raise their own babies! Women are capable of working, but in Islamic culture, they've always tried to keep women under. So men can be known as the ''protectors and providers'' while getting the privilege of sleeping with multiple women.
We are talking about a time period where men were dying from war, and women were at home. The same thing happened during the world war.. But those women stepped up. They started working. That's what started women's rights. During this Islamic time period, why weren't the women allowed to educate themselves and work for themselves? Muslim men are always saying that women don't have to provide financially, but that's because they were not allowed to support themselves financially! They were not allowed to work. Man made religion that keeps women with a lower status. Very disgusting!
And the whole ''men are the protectors'' is ridiculous. Women can be protectors and defenders as well. Are mothers not protectors of their babies? Do you think a father has more connection to his child than the woman who carried it? To men, it's simply about spreading their genes and continuing the lineage. The child's life does not matter. The child will be forced and brain washed into a religious cult, and then married off before they understand what is happening to them!
But Islam teaches, that even if you aren't capable of raising a child, PROCREATION is good! It's the purpose of life! You made another muslim! God will now put you in heaven!
That's called being realistic about widespread trends. You guys live in la la land. It's unfair to turn a blind eye to the injustices caused by a misuse of rights in the religion. Context is important. I live in a Muslim country and cheating for men is acceptable even expected by the norm, because men a re considered to be "polygamous by nature". I'm sure the second something similar affects men your opinion will be different.
JazakAllahu khairan
Wish there was any overlap between what the sisters were saying and what you just described.
Makes me sad because you could have addressed it in a beautiful way helping brothers, who want polygamy for themselves, with how to do it and how to be emotionally mature about it so that the already threatened nuclear family system because of feminism and weak men could have been saved a bit.
You just took words out of context and tried to rip apart what they were trying to say. You just made a random counter argument on bits and pieces alone with selective bias use of ahadees. I can write a whole article or make a video that is similar counter argument to your each and every point but then that still won’t address the real issue or solve any problem just like this reaction video.
Agreed.
Respect to my fellow Islam
Brothers, as a Christian this is one thing I’m confused about Islam. For me it doesn’t make sense, this is the same confusion I have with the trinity. I wanted to know more and understand it.
Yes brother did u have a question
My brudda stole Ben Shapiro's 'facts don't care about your feeling' and changed it to 'facts are indifferent to your emotions' 😂😂
Or maybe it’s just a known fact within people who had taken and achieved a psychology degree? If you know nothing then don’t speak
What a vid. Amazing
Well, I know a lot of women (sisters) will disagree with me on this and probably think I am crazy, but to be frank, I don’t really care.
Why is polygyny, such a taboo subject in the Muslim community, whether it is Arab or Asian, Reverts or Not. It’s a major issue it’s so taboo, why?
I know that jealousy is natural, the Prophet’s wives were jealous and we know that they were raised in a time where polygyny was openly practiced, even before the Qur’aan was revealed to the Prophet (peace be upon him)
I totally understand why most women find it hard to accept. And I am not the type that is like how can you not accept, your rejecting polygyny, an aspect of sharee’a that is unless one states that it’s not permissible, if one states that it’s not permissible that’s a big no-no.
I feel it’s for a number of reasons.
Society In General-
Western Society: The society that we have been raised in, pushes us to feel that polygyny is a form of betrayal, it’s a form of disloyalty and oppression to the woman, that its selfishness from the man’s side.
Eastern/Muslim Society: That there is fault in the wife, that she isn’t a good wife, she isn’t beautiful enough, she basically isn’t fulfilling her duties, and this is why the man has gone out to find another.
Which in some cases the above (western/eastern) might be true, but in many cases neither of them are the reason the man really wants another.
A man will have desire for another woman, during marriage, sorry to burst that bubble and fantasy that many women seem to be living in! Thinking ‘ a man will only have thoughts of me ‘.
Seriously it’s not realistic, because almost every man, I don’t care who he is has thought of getting another wife at one point or another, perhaps men thinking about mistress’s because society frowns upon the polygyny card.
But you get my drift that every man has thought of being with another woman, at some point during marriage. This isn’t a bad thing. It’s actually really normal, but as I said before a mixture of society and jealousy makes us feel inadequate, betrayed, when that’s not always the case.
Ever since I started deening, I force fed the idea of polygyny down me, I was raised around it a bit, but that is not what has lead me to be mentally accepting to it.
Years of telling myself its natural, and seeing relationships around me, from deening and non deening couples has lead me to the realization that men are polygynous and there is nothing you can do about it. You can be the most obedient, beautiful woman in the world, but the man will always desire in his heart and soul, more than one(woman). Not all men will act upon this desire, but its lingering there in the back of their minds.
If a man is truly in love with his women, he doesn’t want a other woman. Yes he will be attracted to other women, that’s natural. But desiring to have another woman? Not at all.
@@AmirHussain-bi2vx sorry you're wrong, Aisha Radiyallaho Anha was the most beloved after Khadeeja Radiyallaho Anha, yet the Prophet still married after Aisha. There is no marriage without desire. The Prophet desired.
@@kb7202 Actually, it's arguable to say that The Reason Prophet pbuh didn't marry another woman when Khadijagh R.A was alive was because of love. (It could be the reason)
But the other side of argument is (which is more logical and I'll tell you why it makes more sense in the end).
The other argument is that He pbuh didn't marry another woman when Khadijah R.A was alive because Verses of LAWFUL POLYGYNY weren't reveal during her life.
It's true yes Arabs used to practice Polygyny, but Shariah wasn't revealed the Laws regarding Polygyny weren't revealed in Islam... Those verses of polygny were revealed in Madinah... Sureh Nisa is revealed in Madinah.
Once the Lawful verses about Polygny were revealed Prophet pbuh did marry multiple times.
Lastly, Prophet pbuh loved Ayesha R.A most among his wives who were alive,(proven by many hadiths) yet he still practiced Polygny (which shows love wasn't the reason for not practicing Polygny) Allah made it Halal, and what Allah made Halal one can't make that haram.
May Allah bless you sister, this is such a brilliant message. I believe this applies to majority of men. You have described it beautifully. This is the case for the vast majority. They do desire a second wife . I have learnt it through experience. The influence of western thinking is strong amongst us Muslims even in our countries. Personally the way i am In sha Allah i will be happy with one but as they say i like to think of myself as an exception. I cannot praise you enough you have cast aside the greatest enemy one can have which is pride.. the major factor I believe why women are against polygyny
@@AmirHussain-bi2vx you only speak for yourself and most men’s mind change when they are older….
Assalmu alaykum from Uzbekistan
A jealous woman (since you don't recognise the term 'cheating' and give yourselves a loophole for lying), WOULD blame the other woman just as much. No serious woman would come along wanting to be wife number 2-4
either, until she already has some serious, serious issues and doesn't care about the man anyway, or intends to get rid of the other women somehow. Repressing jealousy and having it dismissed like that would result in murder. No wonder islam means 'submission' instead of 'peace'. Peace would be a joke in polygamous conditions like that.
No serious woman should want polygamy unless she has serious serious issues? But a healthy and sane (which is what you define in your comment as a jealous) woman would be planning to murder her husband's other wife and an innocent woman.Before you start badmouthing anyone based on your (very) limited knowledge and (meaningless) feelings based on this "knowledge" first know what you're saying before saying.Because this comment of your makes you out to be a proper psychopath.
The Prophet (ﷺ) said:
“I was shown hell. I saw that most of its inhabitants were ungrateful women… The Prophet was asked: ‘Were they ungrateful to Allāh?’ He replied: ‘They were ungrateful to their husbands and for the favors and the good done to them. If you show benevolence to one of them and then she sees something in you not to her liking, she will say: ‘I have never seen any good in you.’”
relevance to this topic?
Who're responsible for all this divorcees and single mothers? Women in general don't want to leave or break their homes until they're compelled to do so. Clearly some Muslim men aren't carrying their responsibilities well.
A spouse should feel loved and respected in a marriage. True love, camaraderie, dignity can develop only in a monogamous marriage, which is the foundation of a strong Muslim family. Both partners must be loyal and sincere to each other. As a result , we'll see less divorcees and single parents. Treat a problem from its root.
In polygyny , none of your wives and children truly loves or respects you, they just need your financial protection. The person they hate the most in the world is you but they'd show fake display of love for their own survival and interest. You can't blame them, the choice was yours.
When you say that there can be no true love in polygynous marriages do you understand that you are accusing the wives of the Prophet (saw) of not really loving him?
Prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) biography was written around 250 years after the noble prophet passed away. Many of the later Muslim rulers were outright immoral, womaniser and drunkard...its possible in some of their time many hadiths and many stories of the prophet's personal life were fabricated to justify their own devilish activities. The prophet's biography was written by human and we're not suppose to accept each and every information there without using our aql. Many noble ladies described as his wives were sahabiya -wives, sisters, daughters of his male companions. There is a clear distinction in the description between the love of Khadija (ra) and the prophet (pbuh) and in the description of later marriages. Those who have eyes to see this , will see.
@@elite7329 exactly
@@user-ie7hq9fm4x You understand the seerah is based on Qur'an and hadith? And there are from authentic sources
Very sensibly said
well said akhi, Allahumma barik
Community leaders, Parents and elders must confront you about the type of teachings you are conveying here. Anyone who has daughters and sisters in their home should be alarmed that you are teaching young people that they can engage in secret marriages and lie to everyone about that,putting our daughters' and sisters' honour and lives at risk.
A man marrying another wife without his first wife not knowing should not even be called 'secret marriage'. Why the negative connotation? The man is simply acting upon his right in Islam. Not committing a sin. You made a false assumption that the man will 'lie to everyone about that'. The man doesn't need to lie anyways, can just marry his second wife.
You also said 'putting our daughters' and sisters' honour and lives at risk'. How is he putting the daughters and sisters 'honour' at risk? This is marriage! Haha. This is honour, instead of a man going around and fornicating with women down the street.
And putting 'lives' at risk? The man is marrying another wife. He accepts responsibility so he is not putting her life at risk either.
I believe some sisters tend to let their emotions stop them from accepting the truth when it comes to polygamy talk.
Why is it a problem when a man wants to act upon his rights in Islam? It's a shame. Some women want Islamic rights, but don't want to allow the man to have his. May Allah forgive all brothers and sisters in Islam ameen.
Teach your daughters polygyny is fine then.. thats whats i do
@@999legend8 What if his other (secret) wives have std's. What if he has other children, his wife doesn't have a right to know that her children have half siblings? Stop talking without wisdom. Life isn't only about your rights, but how your actions affect the society you live in.
@@laila970 I ask Allah to forgive me for not fearing him anywhere near as I should. Thank you for the reminder. A question I have also is what do you mean 'wait until the secrets get out'? Serious question. Also I will reply to other things you said too please answer my question thank you. I ask Allah to forgive me for all my mistakes.
@@Reem-ne7nn If the man has gotten std he will tell his wife of course. And about other children, the first siblings are more important than half siblings. So there is more leniency here. Much more leniency.
I've read so many comments where women claiming to be Muslim have made this exact comparison.