Wood Boiler Flue Pipe Installation and Tech Talk
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Today's video deals with virtually all the steps required for the installation of a Class A Stainless Steel flu for a wood boiler, furnace or wood stove through a 4/12 pitch 26 gauge corrugated steel roof. Its specifically for this type of roof to differentiate the type of flashing that's best used in this application. A shingled roof of the same pitch requires an entirely different flashing referred to a a 'tall cone' flashing and made of galvanized steel.
Strict code adherence is required for safety reasons due to the potential of extreme conditions internal of the flu in the event of a flu fire. Normal operation usually creates no concern for the buildup of creosote, unless the appliance is fired on a continual basis in an improper fashion or if unseasoned or poorly seasoned wood is used. Flu temperatures exceeding 2,000* Fahrenheit (1093*C) is not unusual during a severe flu fire and only the best Class A flu can sustain damage while being exposed to those conditions. The flu used in the installation today is rated to sustain 2100*F temperatures for at least an hour before being exposed to potential damage.
An overview of the piping material is followed by the steps required to install the product in the structure, all the way down to sealing the flashing to the corrugated roofing material. There is a smattering of talk concerning flu/wood burning safety mixed throughout, followed by a short story about losing the use of a finger joint due to the installation of a similar flu system in 1986. #creosote, #classAchimney, #Flu, #flufire
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Wendell you’re a wealth of knowledge.
Good Morning Dave....good to hear from ya buddy. Thanks for the kind words but most of what I know is becoming a bit outdated !! (-;
Nice job installing the chimney looks great . and you a very cute helper nice looking pup take care buddy have a great night
Yes, I like to take Layla to the shop when I can. She always acts like I don't pay her any attention though. Thanks for watching Tom.
@@tractorman4461 mr Higgins and buddy sent a hi to Layla in your email take care
@@tomfillmore9710 Hahahaha....I'll make sure she gets the message.....(-; LOL
Hey T-Man there you go again with another one of your infinite abilities to do anything.
Hahahaha....oh my friend, I'm afraid you give me way too much credit !! A fella just has to do what he has to do is all. Have a great weekend buddy.
Howdy Wendell..
Good job on the install of your new chimney..
Very good explanation of the entire installation..
I can relate to your injury…
But it did make you learn how to not do it again. Hahahaha
Yup I have learned a thing or two over the years what not to do again. 😉😉
Yup always nice for the fur baby to make sure you appreciate life a little more…
And feel wanted..
Thanks for sharing another adventure with us.
Cheers my friend.
Layla gets lonely if I go outside for two minutes...she attacks me soon as I come back in. What a funny little gal. You have a point Gus....I sure DID learn to not do that one mistake ever again. LOL
I think the manufacturer says if the chimney is within 10' of the peak, extend 4' over the peak.
Your tendon story reminds me of my dad. We were making sauerkraut and the cabbage we get are huge 18+lbs each. So he was quartering them to fit our old slicers. Well he set the knife down on a head, and left a finger in the way. Right through and hit the tendon. Keep in mind, he used to be a 1st responder at a yacht manufacturer, but the sight of his own blood makes him faint. I've never seen his skin so pale.
So Mom takes him to the ER, and he was blessed cause the doctor on call was the only one in the hospital that could stitch a tendon.
Now that's a good story about your Dad. He got lucky with the right doc on call. I went to the emergency room and the on call doc cleaned it and bandaged it up with no concern about the tendon. He said it'll be all right, but with in a week I had a knot all the way down into my palm and the joint had quit working.
Love the pup Wendell!
Thank you....she's sure a friendly little gal !!
A lot of newly engineered products since I've retired. Nice products.
That's the way it is...new products to make installations safer and simpler. Well, most of the times any way. Retirement is kinda nice isn't it...
Another great informative video !! I can't believe you only have 21k subscribers????
Hahahaha....now if I had some girlie shots I could probably boost the subs, ya think...?? LOL. No, no girlie shots though. Just a little seriousness added to a bit of fun is all. Thank you for the terrifically awesome comment. I'm trying to use tictok to boost the youtube channel. If you came from there, thank you for that as well.
You do great work. 👏👏👏
Thank you Tony.....that's what my Dad would say but he'd add .....''But you don't do enough of it though". LOL. He was a hard one to make happy sometimes.
Nice job as always thanks for sharing
It sure was a nice day to install one too. A little windy though...I had to delete a lot of rooftop video because of the wind noise.Thank you for the compliment Tim.
Certainly enjoyed your video even though I could never do what you do. You make everything sound so interesting and you are so matter-of-factly about it all. Keep it up.
Well I always say it can't be too hard to do if I can do it !! So there's hope for you yet..!! (-; This one was heavily edited because of the excessive wind. Though a nice day, the wind was brutal on the roof. At one point the tripod was literally blown over and the camera went a crashing !! Thanks for watching....
I, at the camp, have almost the same set-up except the flange is for an asphalt shingle roof. I`m sure yours will work just fine....CHEERS
The sheet metal tall cone flashings are very hard to install without leakage on corrugated roofs. Not too bad on shingles though. All I can say is this one is not leaking yet. (-;
Nice job Wendell 🙂👍 That's scary stuff about getting sliced by the cap!! 😰
The SS is a raw edge inside of the cap and they always seem to have a thin film of oily residue on them. It sliced right to the bone in an instant !! Such a clean cut that it didn't bleed for a split second, but that ended quickly. I got red leakage everywhere. Thanks for stopping by for another one Zane.
Hi my friend. Great job as always.That piece of pipe flashing was very interesting. A heated floor would be nice. I have lain on concrete that had snow and ice ,while welding Not fun. As always I liked and shared. All my very best to you and yours.
Usually in a normal shop the floor is the coldest spot but with a heated floor, it is the WARMEST spot !! Eventually there will be a maximum of 170* water circulating through the 4 circuits of Pex tubing. My target temp for the workspace will be somewhere around 60*F. Thanks for watching and sharing Bobby.
Ive never used that type of flue pipe. I do have some used ones that I bought at a auction. I usually use a section of 6 inch well casing.
Oh heck yeah. I have an 8'' schedule 40 steel casing in the other shop. Supported all the way down to the floor though. I cut a saddle and welded it into a Tee for a cleanout then added angle iron legs down to floor flanges. Then a heavy gage steel band to attach it to the 8'' flu opening on the furnace.
Good video. I installed a metal flue through the metal roof on our cabin. I was tempted to use the flexible flange that you have on yours, but went with the metal type, tucking it under the metal roof on the top side and bringing it on top of the metal on the bottom side of the flange, using plenty of caulk also plus a lot of screws like you did. The metal type is vented with a rain cap just above vents. I was worried about hot air building up with the type you have. My wood stove was in a cabin however, not a pole barn.
I've checked the area under the roof at the opening numerous times with a laser thermometer and its barely over the temp of the rest of the interior ceiling area. So I have no concerns about that. I've installed the metal tall cone flashings on corrugated metal before in similar fashion and it not fun. As you know. (-;
Hello, Tractorman44...minimum 2' above. It may vary regarding location. The largest A vent I've installed was for a massive generator. Stainless inner liner was 14" with a 4" wall. Ran it horizontal for 50' then up 60'. Each 5' length weighed 105 lbs. Sketchy installing with a boom lift. Thxs for the vids!
Now this is something I’ve been wanting to do, replace my old pipe. It’s a triple wall stainless pipe that measures 10” outside. I did have a chimney fire in it years back and the fire co. Came. It certainly was exciting. Thing is is was eating lunch with the intensional of cleaning out the pipe after eating. Alice hollered down the steps that the pipe upstairs in her studio was smoking and hot! I looked at the pipe on the wood stove and she was red hot! From the second story deck I keep a ladder there because i go up with my brush and rods once every so often. I go about every month now. The pipe held up but where it goes through the studio ceiling it had the joist smoldering! It’s a metal roof like you have there. As the fire company was on their way I was one the roof checking if it was hot, as I had visions of fire being drawn up between the ceiling and roof and very bad indeed but the roof was cold! With 21 volunteer firemen and engine down our 500’ lane it truly was an experience! Now 3 years ago or less we had a chimney fire again in our masonry chimney. It’s block with a liner but since I was out of commission health wise I hadn’t cleaned the chimney in a year. So some large flakes of creosote fell and blocked the draft below but above she was smoking!! I had put some paper in the cook stove that took off much to fast and I will say the chimney was super clean afterwards! I’d shot a fire extinguisher up the clean out door but it was blocked 3/4 the way up so it didn’t hit the fire. Another 19 or 20 volunteers came and we are very thankful for their dedicated work! I wasn’t in any shape after heart surgery to climb ladders because if I had been the chimney would have been clean. Have a 8” square brush for that one. I did have one in my shop stove years back in pipe like you just installed. That dark brown black smoke poured out but didn’t last. Metal roof there too. I went in the loft and the pipe was warm but did just fine. I inspect the chimneys often now, as you might expect fer ser! But I really wanted to say Thanks for the 44 Adventure Vid and I’ll certainly be drippin, tippin and sippin in the morning in your honor and in celebration of the lovely and shiny stainless chimney! Squeezez Pleezez! DJO
Now THAT was a flu !! I'm glad it was you and not me David. LOL. Those days are long behind me now. Retirement is much better.
@@daveyjoweaver6282 Thanks for the first hand story of a flu fire or two. A lot of people that heat with wood don't understand the volatility and outright seriousness of a flu fire. And I've seen my share of questionable materials being used instead of the good stuff. I inspect mine frequently too, but the main thing to keep in mind is the moisture content in the wood that feeds the stoves. As always my friend, its good to hear a story from up your way, and I remember well the tough time you went through. But it IS a story with a happy ending at least. Yessir me and the Missus be sitting here tossing 'em back talking about DaveyJO stories right now....of course its the non-alcoholic hot and tasty JO-cups we be tossin'.
@@tractorman4461 So true my Friends! With a good CuppaJO, who needs booze? In fact on Sunday mornings I get out the French Press (Bon jour manure) I always say,,,,well sometimes! Anyway my daughter Jenny out there Portland Oregon way sends us this special JO we call JennyJO or OH GOD JO! Cuz it’s so good! I hand ground it and made a 12 cup pot of SquoozeJO! Plum Finer n frogs hair fer ser! So a Special Tippin your way on Sundays! Oh yes indeed, dry wood sure makes a difference with clean chimneys and good heat! Now, back to some more Tippin, Squeezing too!
@@daveyjoweaver6282 From time to time DaveyJO I pick up Jenny's book and re-read a few paragraphs about Bud. So tell her I appreciate all the special work she put into making that story come alive for another one of America's Greatest Generation !! The Missus's uncle survived and lived to 95, passed just a few short years ago. He was the one (I think I told you about) that was in the second wave landing in Normandy on D-Day. One of the lucky ones, he was.
Chimney rule is 3-2-10
Min 3’ protruding above roofline on top side
Where the chimney comes in contact with the roofline @10’ it must extend 2’ past
If there is more than 5’ of chimney free standing roof bracing kit is required.
Question: is that reflective foil a non combustable material ??
Insulated factory built, Chimney must maintain a 2 inch clearance to all combustible material.
I install 2-3 wood burning chimneys a week.
In Canada, that flashing would not be acceptable, it would only be acceptable if it was a factory tested component, tested by the manufacturer of the chimney, the rubber boot flashing we use here in Canada has a 1 inch sleeve separating the rubber boot from the actual Chimney.
Some of the codes stuff is becoming a faded memory after ten years of retirement. I had to cut out a lot of footage to shorten the video, and part of it was where I took two more inches of the double mylar coated insulation off the perimeter of the hole. Just to be sure. I don't think it'll burn, but the plastic bubbles I'm sure will melt.
The flu supplier sold the flashing right along with the Class A insulated flu pipe and other accessories and we have used these on numerous jobs that have passed inspections. But I cannot for sure verify its having been tested by the manufacturer of the flu. Good question, and thank you for the input.
@@tractorman4461 very nice installation tho, I have to inspect customers installing their own and have seen some ugly stuff . I’ve sliced my self a few times on stainless chimney hardware ,dang that stuff has an edge . Thanks for your reply .
@@gboz4245 Thanks for the kudos. I've been in HVAC since '76 professionally and trained as an electrician by Uncle Sam's finest, the USMC, five years prior to that. Happily retired now and just doing the things associated with the trades to help people out.
@@tractorman4461 np you are def a gifted tradesman .
@@gboz4245 Thank you....I appreciate the kind words for sure.
Very Expensive flue pipe stainless steel tripple wall
But not as expensive as all the stuff you're gonna put in that building and certainly worth the the Cost of saving a NATIONAL TREASURE like WENDELL aka TRACTORMAN 44.
Good morning my friend. Sometimes you crack me up buddy !! Thank you for always the comment that brings a smile Tom. Have a wonderful day.
Where is a good source for this type of Stainless flu?
Some farm supply stores like Rural King may have it, but I get my supplies from a local HVAC sheet metal supply house. You may google Selkirk Metalbestos Class A Flu or possibly Dura Vent Class A Flu components. They both have products similar to this. Amazon may be an option, but I cannot verify that John.
Thank you for the info. I am always learning something from you.@@tractorman4461
Do you think it will ever reach over 2100? Degrees
And nice cut super clean
Yes there is no doubt it will during a creosote fueled flu fire. But it could easily run 1000 to 1200 F with normal firing as long as you are using well seasoned wood.
@@Cheemzs Thanks for the compliment.
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Apparently I am running late on some of my replies. LOL
@@tractorman4461 I dont expect a reply but its good knowing you care enough about your followers to reply.I know you're busy. It seems like none of us have very much personal time these days.Top of the evening to you.