As an Asian who lived much of my life in the West, I got to experience both. I see advantages and disadvantages in both cultures. Here is some of the observations I see: Because Western Culture focuses on the individual, they tend to encourage individual initiative, creativity, and are more tolerant towards new ideas and ways of thinking. Henceforth, if there is a genius born among them, he is more likely to thrive and become extremely creative and productive. Western cultures are very inventive because gifted individuals among Western cultures are encouraged and rewarded for maximum productive work and are therefore able to achieve their maximum potential without restraint. However, there is a danger that these individuals can neglect the welfare of those less fortunate, their communities, and even undermine the nation state. Often these high achieving and wealthy individuals can combine to act only in their own best interests and can often be quite destructive towards national unity and stability. When the masses of the less fortunate coverage, this is a recipe for disaster. The West can achieve great things in the short term, but have a tendency to be self-destructive long term. Westerners will often create great and beautiful ideas in science, philosophy, and engineering but the bitterness of the masses will also create stupid and self-destructive ideas like 3rd wave feminism and political correctness. East Asian cultures are very stable, think long term, and among it's members are much more egalitarian. They are very good at taking an existing idea and making continual improvements upon it, thus they are innovative but less inventive. They tend towards creating long lasting and prosperous civilizations that last forever. If you look at the oldest cultures/civilizations still existing on this planet they are mostly found in East Asia. But they have a huge problem. Their societies are less tolerant of new ideas and pressure their members to conform. Henceforth, a genius/gifted person born among them has much less room and opportunity to fully express his uniqueness and reach his full potential. Thusly, East Asian culture's ability to invent completely new ideas or concepts is greatly limited. Their cultures last forever and once their civilizations modernize, they become very wealthy and productive; However they will tend not to be the center point of new ideas that can revolutionize the world and can risk falling behind as a result. There is a common stereotype that Westerners Invent and Asians copy, there is some truth to this. Westerners are great at inventing new ideas but Asians can exploit those ideas to their fullest potential. Take for example the car industry: Americans invented the car, but once Asians learned the idea from the West, they have the long term thinking, grit, cultural organization, and unity that will make continual improvements until they end up making the best cars and dominating the world's car industry. The American car industry however, fell behind due to disharmony, infighting, conflicting interests between corporate and labor unions. There are things that Westerners can learn from Asian Culture: Think more about the long term harmony of your society, be kind of those less gifted than you, and learn to admit and respect those who are more capable than you, and thus you can create a more stable society. There are also things that Asians can learn from the West: Be more open and tolerant of your kid's individuality especially if it is not negative or destructive, be more encouraging of individual initiative, and don't underestimate the ability to one person to make a huge impact.
Americans didn't invent the car. It was either Cugnot or Benz, depends what we're referring to as a car. Biased opinion but of course it will be and that's the point of this video. There is no wrong or right just try to adapt and accept other's cultural differences.
I'm an arab that lives in the UK, and what I have noticed is that I always share my crisps, sweets or chocolate with my friends without them asking and I do it without even thinking about it, I just share with them before I eat myself. But my friends (which are all ME people) almost never share with me unless I were to ask them. And if I ask them they would happily share with me, but I never ask them since in my culture it's considered rude to ask someone to share something with you, but in their culture I don't think it is It really is interesting to see these differences!
Same here in Germany. But even as someone who grew up here it always makes me a little upset when people do not like to share. I guess people from rich countries are educated to be independent and therefore do not like to share.. Also when I need help to do whatever people from migrants' familiys offer their help by themselves. You have heavy bags to carry? A guy from Syria approaches and helps. You see two guys discussing who pays the drinks ( beeing very loud) ? They typically are from Poland,Turkey,Serbia,Bosnia, Italy,Greece... Those people have a special place in my heart.
As an Asian living here in Canada, I can relate with u. I too feel weird not sharing my food or at least asking people around me if they want to eat too before I eat them. I’ve just been raised to be courteous to those around me. I didn’t think there was anything unique to it until I read ur comment. 😅
@@GrandmamaCash haha i agree but Bosnia and Poland is really something between ME and WE You can find alot of both.. i am Bosnian that lives in Czech Republic and here it is more ME than WE culture however my Czech and Slovak friends pay for my Beer same as i do theirs
It would be best if there were a balance between “me” and “we” cultures, that way everyone would have concern for each other but we’d have enough freedom to make our own choices.
@@utkarshmehta208I thought the same thing. Culturally, Italy is a mix. I have family that are Italian and they even go to coworker’s uncles funerals (that actually happened- my Italian uncle asked if he needed to attend & felt it was wrong to not go). Weddings are gigantic. Family comes before all else, but they view those near them as people they need to uplift as well. I think they lean more Western, but they are definitely culturally more Eastern than most Europeans.
Notice how religions in the individualistic West are mostly collective (church) and religions in the east are mostly individualistic (personal enlightenment, Buddhism, private religion, etc). It is like a way to compensate. It is good to highlight the fact none of these paradigms is more spiritual or correct than the other, and it does not mean that individualistic has no empathy nor that individuals in collective societies have no individualism.
Not true actually. I am from a We culture, in fact all south asian countries have that culture. And from a muslim majority country. And islam always encourages things like helping people, sharing your food with everyone, being generous and kind towards your neighbors, parents, relatives, animals, etc.
I was raised in a We culture living in a Me culture country. many Me cultured persons try to take advantage. When it came down to asking for help from a Me cultured person to understand this culture, they dont if its not convenient for them even after you inconvenienced yourself for them. It took a friend who understood both to explain, giving the best advice “just do what ever you need to do for yourself.” I only go out of my way for We cultured people now they appreciate it more and come back around.
I was born in a "me" cultured country but currently live in what would be considered a "we" cultured country. I have also travelled to several other "we" cultured countries and have seen many examples of people helping and looking after others within their circle, which is nice to see. However, I had never seen so many people take advantage of others the way they do in "we" cultures until I left my "me" culture. These cultures are rife with corruption, cheating, stealing, and taking whatever they can from anyone at all. Even if they are within their own circle. I have seen so many decades-long friendships end after one person borrowed under $30 and never returned it. On the surface "we" cultures generally are friendly and helpful towards their "neighbours" but once you get to know the goings-on behind the scenes you realize how many people are actually only out for themself and would screw close friends or family over for the right amount. Obviously, there are exceptions to this and there are plenty of good kind people in "we" cultures also, but there are FAR fewer people trying to scam or take advantage of you in "me" cultures. "Me" cultures also take a lot more immigrants and give much more aid to other (we) countries. They have more humanitarian movements and better human rights too. The differences are very complex.
I met someone who grew up in a middle eastern culture. she was from a collectivist culture. when I had trouble learning a certain lesson, she was so adamant on making sure I knew the material. in my 18 years of life, I had never come across a classmate who basically became an impassioned teacher within a few seconds. so I guess in collectivist cultures, students really aim to make sure their classmates know the material so the whole class can succeed. they all want to rise up together. I mainly grew up in New York though, and went to a school that really fostered individuality. it also made us very critical at times though, and there was stressful competition but nothing too harsh. so yeah it was just weird speaking to someone who came from a very collectivist culture..but also helpful ngl.
Weird? You should be thankful that people like that still exist in your society, today its filled with depressed and lonely people a direct correlation from becoming too individualistic within society no wonder suicides are theough the roof in the west!
Growing up with 3 Algerian parents in the US, a mom, step dad, and dad has always been a little different. My dad is a psychology professor who got his PhD in cross cultural communication so I feel like I have a pretty good understanding as to how Algerian culture is different from American culture. My dad comes off as more individualistic than collectivist, he’s been living alone ever since my mom and him divorced 20 years ago. He’s also always told me to enjoy my company and seems to enjoy his own and keep busy with various hobbies. My step dad on the other hand, a social worker with his masters, is very collectivist. Sometimes it can get frustrating because we disagree on how things should be done at times, but at the end of the day it’s clear that he’s really caring and he uses a lot of “we” language. Even when he says I love you, he won’t say I he’ll say we, even if there’s no one else in the house lol. One time I made a “chore chart” to assign specific household chores to each person in the house because chores weren’t being assigned to my sister, my mom & I fairly & it was starting to become an issue because one person was always doing more chores than the other. I saw that this worked in my friends household (her parents were born & raised in the US), so I thought it was an amazing idea that would solve all of our problems with chores not getting done or one person doing more cleaning than the others. I had a chart printed out for each person in my family thinking my step dad would be all for it but he wasn’t 🤣 he was really skeptical and he honestly seemed like he genuinely didn’t understand the concept of each person being in charge of their own chores without being told to do them. It worked out so perfectly in my friends house, but my dad genuinely couldn’t understand the concept, unfortunately we couldn’t even try it. My step dad is always sharing his food and asks us to try some of our food, but will usually end up taking half lol. My mom seems to be collectivist too, but she’s a little more self aware and can notice when I’m slightly uncomfortable or just don’t reciprocate her collectivism. It’s honestly interesting to have 3 parents from Algeria that moved to the US in their 20’s and 30’s. Sometimes we’ll all be in the same room having a convo or eating together (my step dad & my dad get along well, shocking huh?) and I just sit back and observe. I didn’t mean to write a whole essay, but oh well this topic interests me! Hopefully I gave an insightful example of individualism vs. collectivism.
This is fascinating. I would have liked to know how the chore delegation chart would have worked, ah well. Thank you for sharing this! We enjoyed it very much 😉
I live in a collective society. European culture does not look very well in our society. I heard that selfishness is at the forefront rather than stakeholders. Do your interests and opinions stand out more than society?
An Algerian ex husband and a current Algerian husband sitting at the same table with the current and ex Algerian wife sharing a meal like a loving family!!! 😂😂😂 That i don't believe it's impossible, unless they fully adopted the local mindset. in Algeria thay would've been sworn enemies
Practicing both of them is the key, but if I have to choose between them, objectively speaking, the "We" culture seems more stable and healthier for everyone actually living in their society.
Only if everyone wasn't forced to submit themselves to the collective. Collectivism should be voluntary. Individuals should be able to make that decision. It's a human right
@@ketamineanonymous8396 This feeling is only available in those hearts who have a sense of meaning to their life. People who believe in morality, ethics, they belive in the day of judgement, they've this hope to meet God, Believing that there is a difference between good n bad, right n wrong. The most so called rationalist people in this world never give a thought to this idea that what was the point in life and to come here in this world? Are we just here to earn, eat, drink, get married have children, get old and die like no body. I think animals are doing this job better than us. Then why was human better than animal? What is the reason to give human being such status, superiority, brain, intelligence with divine books defining code of conduct.
@IrfanKhan-mp4cb there's more to it as well. Collectivist societies place more emphasis on monetary success... which can lead to a digression of society. Things that wouldn't be able to be traded before or ideas of moderation can lax. An example would be the commoditification of women, the impulse of men, and comfort/security over freedom/liberty... all of these can be volatile to societies with a moral/social framework counter to what is being introduced. It's the quiet wars. Also one of the most effective ways to dispatch\influence a nation is cultural revolutions, no rss needed and no bad PR. Edit: I said they more focus on monetary success, but it's more of an allowance or permission. And comfort/security means things that makes your life easier (while not necessarily making it better) and refocus of what you should be focusing on (from politics/policies/morals to materialism/beastial cravings) an example is allowing the government to touch the 2nd amendment, knowing that the only real thing keeping the 1st around is it (and vice versa)... along with the rest on the list... for the material comfort and self relief at the groups expense. Another example is how they view women ingeneral in collectivist societies, such as China or Japan. China literally culled their female newborns for production and population control, while Japan has the biggest porn following and pervert culture ingeneral. The Christian foundations of the US call for individualism for the good of the group that's another reason eastern standards collide with it (atheist myself but Christianity has a good moral ground work many can relate to real stories that the individual can identify with that at its core promotes goodwill and selflessness... which is important qualities to be looking for when you place someone in power over you and ingeneral, now how people follow the religion or the question of God I'd argue with).
Sincere appreciation from an English teacher here in Korea. What an excellent video for my students. Well scripted, decent vocab and pronunciation, not to mention the structure of the lecture. Thanks again.
We are glad this video is helpful to your students! Will be posting more educational animation videos and hope they will be useful for English as a Second Language learners as well :)
I think its very important for many students/immigrants to be aware about this culture difference because it affects a lot on the persons ability to succeed and be perceived within the society. In a 'We' culture, people are more reserved and they are not as direct as 'Me' people, its important to be direct in a 'Me' society, if you are going through hardships, unjust or racism. Or if you have achieved something great or have an amazing quality about yourself, you need to share it to whoever might need to know or could know, because in a 'me' society, many people tend to take things at face value, so what you see is what you are getting. No ones going to assume you are great or in pain, you need to represent yourself in a genuine, guilt free way so that people respect you if you have done something great, or talk to you when you share your pain. I say this because being in a 'Me' culture can be hard sometimes, in a 'We' culture, people are taught to respect everyone and anyone but mostly on who they are (for example, you need to respect your elders in many east asian countries). however it is perfectly normal to confront elder people in western societies with words no person in the 'We' culture would dare say to an elderly. So know that you don't get treated by who you are, you dont get a "respect me for free beacuse im older than you card", you get treated by how you represent yourself as a person, so make sure to represent yourself!
I’m an American I think neither culture is right or wrong it’s just different. U kno it’s nothing wrong with neither independent or being involved with your community. But in my opinion in most western societies people who are individuals tend to do their own thing and not care what most people think u kno cause we have our own lives to live and can’t live for others especially when we are adults. Now we may take some people’s opinions in consideration but at the end of the day we have to do what’s best for us. Because in the west as individuals we pay our own bills and feeding ourselves cause nobody else is doing it. Whereas people in most eastern societies will tend to care what most people think because they are not only representing themselves they represent everyone in their community. They usually need to get blessing from their parents and/or other elders in their community. If they do anything that brings shame to their community they can be shunned and all. Like when u look at people who live in West tend to be more modern and liberal. They see and accept changes in the world. If your are in the East people are more traditional which means they live by social norms they have lived since the beginning. Now In some countries in the East could be changing but it’s going slow u know changes don’t happen overnight. It takes time and patience for them to happen. But no matter where u from or live u just gotta treat people with respect and all. Don’t insult the way they live or interact with one another
This is a very important thing that rarely discused.We know that there are different between western cultures and eastern cultures.Individualistic and collectivism only small part of these different.There are still plenty of different things.
Asian countries have been westernized rapidly in the past 100-150 years and are becoming more individualistic (for better or worse). So that means this dichotomy is mattering less and less. It really depends on the person and their environment or upbringing. The examples in this video should only be taken with a grain of salt.
There is some truth in what you say! People in Asian cities are slowly drifting towards "me" culture, whereas people living in smaller towns or villages still adopt "we" culture. This was not the case 50 years back.
Exactly! Where I grew up in Asia but I myself I prefer “Individualism” anytime, and anywhere! Where for me I can’t get over being in the “Collectivism” culture at all😑!
Honestly, Family relations were important the western countries too in the past. Recently, After industrilzation, And certian things happened that made them individualist
Grew up on both sides of the Fence, My mom's Japanese so I grew up as a child to early youth in Japan where we were raised on collective thinking and is HEAVILY built on the idea of acting and thinking of others than yourself. For instance, simple enough example but something that is taught in Japan that probably exemplifies this "Collective" thinking perfectly. On an escalator in Japan, it's almost common sense that people who are just idly going up or down stand on the Right-hand side of the escalator so that you can make way for people that are in a hurry so that they can walk up the left-hand side of the escalator. People act and move as a whole to benefit one another, and acting out of the group would usually warrant you A LOT of attention. On the other hand, I grew up in my later years in America, and yeah. The difference between the mindset of these two Cultures is vastly different. I learned that in America, you're rewarded for being selfish, you almost HAVE to be selfish. Nothing that others do is rarely equated to their success when and if they do succeed. Also, because here in the US they have this fetish for being "independent" family ties are slightly frowned upon. For example, In Asian Culture it is generally not taboo to live with your parents well into adulthood being that most of them do have a career job and do chip in for rent and is also a way to pay back to your parents by taking care of them in old age as to show your appreciation. However, in America, It's almost HAVE to move out by your 18yrs old. One thing that made me scratch my head, I was dating a girl raised somewhere in the Mainland, as I live in Hawaii. The Rent out here can be a lot, and it's usually not TOO uncommon to see families living and splitting rent in one house. Whole families. I was working two jobs at the time at 22yrs old and I remember that she made a remark about me still living with my parents at 22. While she was visiting here for college whose trip, finances, college tuition, dorm fee, living expenses, allowance was all hand given by her parents lmao and I couldn't help but think "huh.... okay." I've been working since I was 15yrso old to support myself. Tf? haha. Wasn't even the ignorant jab at my living circumstance that made me cringe, it was how unaware of how pampered she is and somehow thought she was making it ALL herself. I had to laugh. Through and through, Yeah where there is a downfall from both cultural perspectives... I'd rather be a collective thinker that's considerate of others than a selfish, self-centered fuck. But that's just me though.
Haha, interesting story. In fact, I think you're the individualistic one. You're self-reliant, while the girl you dated is colletivistic since she's relying on others for financial supplication.
i disagree with your very last sentence. with that case, consider not having a personality, a name, and a soul my context: one can still be considerate to their society while still retain their sense of individuality and uniqueness. i call it ‘synergy’
This is such a well done video- the examples, the graphics, the context and the detailed explanation is accurate but also accessible to people with a lower level of English. Thank you~
Very well done 😅 for example when I said "We should minimize our own biasness." And then saying, "I should minimize my own biasness." Saying both won't hurt at all.
I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships
I am an American and I noticed that people from other cultures think that I am too independent, afraid to ask for help, a perfectionist, and really hard on myself.
@@whatamidoingeatingsushi2677 I would beg to differ. South Asian culture is still closer to East Asian culture than it is to Western culture. Many East Asian concepts like fillal piety, strong emphasis on education, stability over risk, respect for authorities, religious pluralism, etc, can be found in South Asia. There's also the influence of Buddhism which can be felt in both regions. Ultimately, geography is destiny.
Wouldn't you also be happy trying out a multitude of different meals and tastes? That is to say there would be just enough for everyone at the table to eat and no one would leave hungry. Of course, we all have our own preferences when it comes to things like these and there are no wrong or right choices -- just choices.
I’m so sick of those stupid identity terms! I’m a Venezuelan living in the US, apparently all the things I was told in Venezuela in some way relate me with the US and they don’t like it, so now I’m not only an American but also I’m not part of the Western Culture. My mom is Italian, my dad is Spaniard but I’m not considered white in the US. Then wtf am I according with the “Western World“? How is that identities can also be bought? It is so stupid!
@@juancarlosrosalesmeza6755 I know its pretty stupid judging by the origin of the definition latin greek cultures were the first western, so by that mean all latin europe and latin america should be western cultures as well but according to americans the new definition of western means super individualism, the right to self realization, how independent you are from Gov, Beliefs, politics, economics, etc, prioritizing you over everyone else, opposing to a collective society. thats why most people believe americans dont have any culture, you as venezuelan probably identify more with the venezuelan mentality than the individualistic americans with no identity other than their own. thats just one example but there are many others that define what a western society is rather than just the origins of democracy.
It’s actually a sliding scale, not black and white! America, Germany and Scandinavia are considered the most Low Context and Individualistic cultures. Japan, Korea and China are generally considered the most High Context and Collectivistic. Most other cultures tend to fall in between but may lean slightly more one way or another. Latin Romance cultures lean more on the collectivist side- but it’s not as intense as in East Asia. I think this video was just trying to show the extremes. This video is based off of the Individualistic/Collectivistic Cultures concept by the psychologist Gerard Hofstede in the 80’s.
전 So, does that mean we all are “western” whenever we take decisions to benefit ourselves and we are “eastern” when we think for the benefit of all of us?
The key is to practice both, and in some ways, we already do. On a macro level, it has to be WE. However, being responsible for yourself has to be instilled from the getgo.
we culture is better. when people get old their children take care of them. Whereas me culture lacks that. Me culture causes more depression and lead to suicide whereas in we culture this problem is very rare but still there.
not neccesarily, there are a large number of suicides in nations such as japan. There are benefits to both cultures, i consider my self a bit of both as my parents were raised in sri lanka but i was raised in austrlia so i take the cultures from both nations and appreciate both of them. But yes what yoy say certainly make sense
South Korea is a we culture however the elderly there are getting neglected and the suicide rate is extremely high on the elderly as kids don’t have the time and energy to take care of them unfortunately.
Nagendra Sardar no the only thing why people move to west is financially beter and future for kids im immigrant too and we are gonna leave when kids done school its smart isnt it
@@metalbotanist6730 LOL how so? Lots of philosophy came mostly from the east.. they develop cure - medicines, maths, technology, etc... dont forget that the west were in dark ages for 300 years, they started to develop once the knowledge from the east came to them.
@@quebecaaa1238 So did west, Greeks and Romans were and are European after all. And the dark ages are called that just because there wasnt much written left about them, but there were still technological advancements. Europe started to develop once civilization spread t them after rome fell, for some time their advancements were slowed down by Christianity (which come from the middle east) but as soon as they threw it out advancements were made faster and faster than ever before. By the time USA had steam ships Japanese were living like in the medieval ages.
Even collectivist cultures do allow some degree of individualism. There is just a more emphasis on societal cohesion. Collective cultures are not usually totalitarian and they should not be perceived as such. I actually find individualism more totalitarian than collectivism because although we have freedom we receive little to no support from others and we are pressured to adapt to the dominant culture just in order to survive and live a normal life.
This video is biased towards showing what it calls _we_ societies (collectivist societies) as better than _me_ societies (individualistic societies). Most of the times the so-called _we_ societies subjugate people to the will of the majority, leading people to carry unhappy lives only because hypocrisy, conformity and being "normal" is the core of social life leaded by this imaginary "majority"; while in the societies in which individuals are better respected often achieve better decisions and cultural traits through the consensus of many individuals. By the other hand, there's no pure _me_ or _we_ society on Earth.
I mostly agree although humans are not just suppose to advance themselves, but everyone around them as well. These we cultures are not bad at all, I disagree when you say they are unhappy, unhappiness seems to be a bigger problem in me cultures because everyone feels like they have to stand above everyone else when in reality, one person can only do so much. I see the good in both cultures but I guess everyone has their opinions.
Individuals can unite for common goals such as huge construction projects and wars while maintaining their individualism. When westerners do things as a group there is more input from individuals leading to more creative input for the projects they are creating. As for Hive Cultures (Eastern) The group is conformed to the one individual deemed the leader. The leader is the "I" of the group. Everyone lives for him (not her) and his job is to protect the group (himself). In war they fight for the group and not their individual families or children. When the leader dies his oldest offspring will be his replacement unless an individual arises within the group to overthrow him. In politics each group is like one person which is lead by the leading group and resembles the lower level groups. Hive Culturalism, for these reasons, are very limited in creativity.
There is problem in each system… Having lived in eastern culture for most of my life, I can see those flaws closely… There is always a pressure to conform to a certain role in the society which limits your potential and creativity… This also results in controlling behavior from the elders towards the younger.
TY for this information. This video was made before the COVID-19 pandemic and outbreak of wars in Eastern Europe, Northern Africa, and Israel-Palestine. I don't think there clearly exists a demarcation between "me" and "we" societies anymore. Our world has become so geopolitically and environmentally unstable that the "we" philosophy is becoming more dominant in all parts of the world. While we, Americans, still pride ourselves in our individualism, we are adopting many aspects of the "we". Large group gatherings are often seen in parks and restaurants where I live. The concept of "family" is broader than it used to be. Our Immediate families are considered anyone who is in our circle of life, i.e.parents, siblings, close friends, neighbors, and trusted work colleagues are our "family" these days. We're not to the same level of "we" as our Asian counterparts, but we aren't too far behind coming out of the pandemic. I think the hardest part for me is remembering that there are significant cultural differences that are still in place. I traveled to several countries in the past and enjoyed most of the cultures I experienced (i.e. all except for Italy). I've been to the UK, Germany, France, China, South Korea, Japan, Mexico, Belize, Canada, and Australia, My business took me to many places across the USA. In each place, I found elements of both the "me" and "we" philosophies at the same time. I haven't traveled since the pandemic, but I don't think this duality is as rigid as shown here since the global disease forced many people to change how they live their lives. There's more of a philosophical blending.of the two extremes that's taking place today. And as climate change and politics make the world more volatile and immigration increases, 'we" societies will become the only way to survive. Again, TY for this discussion. It's an important one needing more of my own understanding. I sometimes forget that there are cultural differences that must be acknowledged and respected. 👍🤔
Brazil is seen as a collectivist society, but it really depends on who and where you are, I'm an individualist, and many people I know are also individualists, especially in big cities.
I LOVE this video but, and this is a BIG but: Why does the video completely overlook/ignore African societies and Indigenous peoples (such as Native Americans or Pasifika peoples)?
We societies have friendlier people but people turn out very similar. That's why when my white friend went to japan all the Japanese girls wanted to get to know him because he was new and different. Really shows how different the me culture is.
As a human, he/she/they (as stupid as sometimes your language is) need someone to get along with. Needs someone to talk with/communicate with to express ideas and feelings. That is one of the basic needs of a person who acts NORMALLY. If someone appears to be around you and you don’t give any fuck about them/her/him then YOU’RE NOT A NORMAL HUMAN BEING. THAT’S JUST HOW IT IS.
A little too narcissistic I would say. It's just that it's rare for people in some Eastern countries (such as Japan, Philippines, and etc.) to actually meet foreigners and be able to interact with them. That's a common reaction, idk what you're talking about. Wut?
I'm from Taiwan, and In my experience it's about finding balance. collectivism could lead to passive agressivness, and often abuse, people(who is being abused or who witness one)afraid to speak up because of what others will think of them or judge them. also could stop one to pursue their dream, just to make others happy, or to pursue other's dream for them. often people see a car crash, and nobody go to help, I think its because of fear or what other would think of them(don't want to stand out) or don't want to embarrassed the people who are in the crash.
This is often overlooked I would say mental health issues also correlate to it problem is me culture is practiced today more extreme compared to what it was 20-30 years ago hence why western society is on a decline.
Our next evolutionary state is to become the Individual-collective. Were we recognize the right of the individual and how one maintains and composes the whole.
I spent over 40 years in the West (Me) and have lived in Asia (We) for going on 20 years. Both have benefits and downsides. One thing I know from experience is this, Me cultures expect and facilitate critical thinking. This is something that very rarely gets exhibited in We cultures. Look at the richest most successful countries in the world, they are all Me cultures.
The easily solution is promote diversity of culture, allow groups of people who are of different opinions to establish their own little communities as per their own guidelines and standards, if a group of asians in America want to form a "reservation" style of community with their own local laws and customs let them, that way they will be happier than they would be by being forced to live in an individualist manner and likewise those who want individualism should have their own individualist communities, i think the issue with politics rises when groups of people want to force their way of life on others and stamp out all alternatives
Nice, in your view-- but it is an old and new culture, old cultures are we culture (Strong in unity and numbers) new culture ( me culture are strong individually, may call it ADVANCE) ( I am a Eurasian
@@hectorcardenas2171 In a football match, players in one team strategically cooperates and passes the ball to someone who can find an opening to score a goal while every player in the other team wants to dribble past the opponent, score a goal and be the best player on the pitch. Which team do you think is going to win?
Hey there, interesting video! Good food for thought. Just a small issue on your map though, you have Ecuador and Peru fused together. We are border and brother countries but we are not fused as the map shows. Sincerely, a we person living in a me society (and getting nuts because of it! haha)
Hey! Can we include the cultural differences in BELIEFS OR VALUES? For e.g - If we have to cite an answer in which we have to state the belief or value very different from ours. Can we state the cultural differences in the east or west? Do different cultural come under the category of VALUES OR BELIEFS? Hoping for an early response. Thanks and the video was very informative.
Maybe. But Mozart, Chopin, Beethoven, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Picasso, Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Baryshnikov, Nureyev, Gaudi were born and created in the culture ME
@@Mjak-yd3og I do in fact. But their influence has been marginal. I'm not really into classical music or dance or ballet for that matter. However I do understand there are Western philosophers who have influenced my studies as I'm doing a bsc in international relations. What I mean to say, there are equally important individuals who have come from the "we" culture. Gandhi , Confucius , Srinivasan Ramanujan, Sun Tzu, Gautama Buddha , Genghis Khan, Tagore , Farrokh Bulsara, Anish Kapoor, Indira Gandhi , Ravi Shankar, Bruce Lee and many more
west is where your mom loves a outsider than you west is where parents only care about eachother west is where children have no family or home west is where your both parents divorced and married to outsider and they put you in boarding school because their lovers don't like you west is where children leave their loving parents west is where children put their parents in nurseries west is corrupted and fucked
Wait there. The West isn’t just the germanic world . What about the latin romance huh? This video kinda excludes the french, spanish,italian and latinos. If u go to Spain and then go to Germany u’ll see a difference.
As a individual you can't do many things, but as Family, Group we can do a lot more things. Or you think one individual can build a 10 floor House... I don't think so. As Group we are stronger. Why do you thing lions are one of the best hunters on the world, because they hunt as group or family.
Individuals can unite for common goals such as huge construction projects and wars while maintaining their individualism. When westerners do things as a group there is more input from individuals leading to more creative input for the projects they are creating. As for Hive Cultures (Eastern) The group is conformed to the one individual deemed the leader. The leader is the "I" of the group. Everyone lives for him (not her) and his job is to protect the group (himself). In war they fight for the group and not their individual families or children. When the leader dies his oldest offspring will be his replacement unless an individual arises within the group to overthrow him. In politics each group is like one person which is lead by the leading group and resembles the lower level groups. Hive Culturalism, for these reasons, are very limited in creativity.
The concepts are mixed everywhere. It's about the degree to which a country would embrace each concept. And latin America does embrace more we-culture.
I think some of the things in this video was wrong like blaming the person's personality for being late but I understand that it's meant to show Eastern culture compared to Western so it has to make it look good
Is American culture for real me me me me me or instead is it strength based during the belief that each member's contribution to the team is what makes that team work well together. When each person on a team is earning as much recognition as possible from the people at the top instead of competing with themselves to grow how is that necessarily automatic going to be benefiting the whole of that community? For example a person from any kind of American background would be competing with themselves when it comes to honing their own listening skills to be looking for the best in others.
having western culture, values, religion, language, etc. does not mean you are western physically. you can have anything western in you, but if you don't look white or European, you will never be recognized or considered as western. The term western is basically also about what you look like. Do you look white? Do you look European? The term western synonymous to European or white Example: Western culture = European culture Western language = European language Western food = Food of Europeans Western tradition = European tradition or tradition of white or European people He looks Western = He looks European / He looks white She doesn't look Western = She doesn't look white / She doesn't look European
it is very hard, i hate it a lot but i must work hard to leave this culture. it makes me want to kill myself haha but no worries, i believe i can escape.
its a great myth that the Indian culture is collectivist, the religion of Hinduism the dominant religion of my country is a rugged individualist one and is based on the idea that only the individual has a chance as well as the responsibility of realizing god
Yes but socially you live by very Collectivist values compared to the Western Countries, who's main religion Christianity is (very ironically) Collectivist so don't read into that too much. Also here in the West we've been spoilt by material wealth leading to greed and sense of community + decline in moral values, whilst I'm not claiming to be perfect I have struggled being a Collectivist thinker in an Individualistic Society !
In every culture, no matter their gender, creed, or etc., their are good and bad. Sad that those that are bad try to trick others in believing they (the bad) are really good, which is a form of hype.
As an Asian who lived much of my life in the West, I got to experience both. I see advantages and disadvantages in both cultures. Here is some of the observations I see:
Because Western Culture focuses on the individual, they tend to encourage individual initiative, creativity, and are more tolerant towards new ideas and ways of thinking. Henceforth, if there is a genius born among them, he is more likely to thrive and become extremely creative and productive. Western cultures are very inventive because gifted individuals among Western cultures are encouraged and rewarded for maximum productive work and are therefore able to achieve their maximum potential without restraint. However, there is a danger that these individuals can neglect the welfare of those less fortunate, their communities, and even undermine the nation state. Often these high achieving and wealthy individuals can combine to act only in their own best interests and can often be quite destructive towards national unity and stability. When the masses of the less fortunate coverage, this is a recipe for disaster. The West can achieve great things in the short term, but have a tendency to be self-destructive long term. Westerners will often create great and beautiful ideas in science, philosophy, and engineering but the bitterness of the masses will also create stupid and self-destructive ideas like 3rd wave feminism and political correctness.
East Asian cultures are very stable, think long term, and among it's members are much more egalitarian. They are very good at taking an existing idea and making continual improvements upon it, thus they are innovative but less inventive. They tend towards creating long lasting and prosperous civilizations that last forever. If you look at the oldest cultures/civilizations still existing on this planet they are mostly found in East Asia. But they have a huge problem. Their societies are less tolerant of new ideas and pressure their members to conform. Henceforth, a genius/gifted person born among them has much less room and opportunity to fully express his uniqueness and reach his full potential. Thusly, East Asian culture's ability to invent completely new ideas or concepts is greatly limited. Their cultures last forever and once their civilizations modernize, they become very wealthy and productive; However they will tend not to be the center point of new ideas that can revolutionize the world and can risk falling behind as a result.
There is a common stereotype that Westerners Invent and Asians copy, there is some truth to this. Westerners are great at inventing new ideas but Asians can exploit those ideas to their fullest potential. Take for example the car industry: Americans invented the car, but once Asians learned the idea from the West, they have the long term thinking, grit, cultural organization, and unity that will make continual improvements until they end up making the best cars and dominating the world's car industry. The American car industry however, fell behind due to disharmony, infighting, conflicting interests between corporate and labor unions.
There are things that Westerners can learn from Asian Culture: Think more about the long term harmony of your society, be kind of those less gifted than you, and learn to admit and respect those who are more capable than you, and thus you can create a more stable society. There are also things that Asians can learn from the West: Be more open and tolerant of your kid's individuality especially if it is not negative or destructive, be more encouraging of individual initiative, and don't underestimate the ability to one person to make a huge impact.
I can't read that
hmm nice
@@junaozz lol
Really nice UNDERRATED comment
Americans didn't invent the car. It was either Cugnot or Benz, depends what we're referring to as a car. Biased opinion but of course it will be and that's the point of this video. There is no wrong or right just try to adapt and accept other's cultural differences.
I'm an arab that lives in the UK, and what I have noticed is that I always share my crisps, sweets or chocolate with my friends without them asking and I do it without even thinking about it, I just share with them before I eat myself.
But my friends (which are all ME people) almost never share with me unless I were to ask them. And if I ask them they would happily share with me, but I never ask them since in my culture it's considered rude to ask someone to share something with you, but in their culture I don't think it is
It really is interesting to see these differences!
Same here in Germany. But even as someone who grew up here it always makes me a little upset when people do not like to share. I guess people from rich countries are educated to be independent and therefore do not like to share.. Also when I need help to do whatever people from migrants' familiys offer their help by themselves. You have heavy bags to carry? A guy from Syria approaches and helps. You see two guys discussing who pays the drinks ( beeing very loud) ? They typically are from Poland,Turkey,Serbia,Bosnia, Italy,Greece... Those people have a special place in my heart.
As an Asian living here in Canada, I can relate with u. I too feel weird not sharing my food or at least asking people around me if they want to eat too before I eat them. I’ve just been raised to be courteous to those around me. I didn’t think there was anything unique to it until I read ur comment. 😅
@@GrandmamaCash haha i agree but Bosnia and Poland is really something between ME and WE
You can find alot of both.. i am Bosnian that lives in Czech Republic and here it is more ME than WE culture
however my Czech and Slovak friends pay for my Beer same as i do theirs
I am from the UK too, and have some arab friends. It’s a much friendlier culture than British culture (which I now hate)
whats so difficult in sharing something with those who always share it with us!
It would be best if there were a balance between “me” and “we” cultures, that way everyone would have concern for each other but we’d have enough freedom to make our own choices.
Individual-collectivism. We as the individual maintains and composes the whole.
We have individual experiences, but we’re all one.
That sounds like Italy to me
@@utkarshmehta208I thought the same thing. Culturally, Italy is a mix. I have family that are Italian and they even go to coworker’s uncles funerals (that actually happened- my Italian uncle asked if he needed to attend & felt it was wrong to not go). Weddings are gigantic. Family comes before all else, but they view those near them as people they need to uplift as well. I think they lean more Western, but they are definitely culturally more Eastern than most Europeans.
@@utkarshmehta208 I think, South italy is We and north italy is me culture.
Notice how religions in the individualistic West are mostly collective (church) and religions in the east are mostly individualistic (personal enlightenment, Buddhism, private religion, etc). It is like a way to compensate.
It is good to highlight the fact none of these paradigms is more spiritual or correct than the other, and it does not mean that individualistic has no empathy nor that individuals in collective societies have no individualism.
Good observation!
Taoism with energy on top
Like a dream they can't achieve
The individual quest for enlightenment leads to the realization that every individual is simply a part of the whole
Not true actually. I am from a We culture, in fact all south asian countries have that culture. And from a muslim majority country. And islam always encourages things like helping people, sharing your food with everyone, being generous and kind towards your neighbors, parents, relatives, animals, etc.
I was raised in a We culture living in a Me culture country. many Me cultured persons try to take advantage. When it came down to asking for help from a Me cultured person to understand this culture, they dont if its not convenient for them even after you inconvenienced yourself for them.
It took a friend who understood both to explain, giving the best advice “just do what ever you need to do for yourself.”
I only go out of my way for We cultured people now they appreciate it more and come back around.
I was born in a "me" cultured country but currently live in what would be considered a "we" cultured country. I have also travelled to several other "we" cultured countries and have seen many examples of people helping and looking after others within their circle, which is nice to see. However, I had never seen so many people take advantage of others the way they do in "we" cultures until I left my "me" culture. These cultures are rife with corruption, cheating, stealing, and taking whatever they can from anyone at all. Even if they are within their own circle. I have seen so many decades-long friendships end after one person borrowed under $30 and never returned it. On the surface "we" cultures generally are friendly and helpful towards their "neighbours" but once you get to know the goings-on behind the scenes you realize how many people are actually only out for themself and would screw close friends or family over for the right amount.
Obviously, there are exceptions to this and there are plenty of good kind people in "we" cultures also, but there are FAR fewer people trying to scam or take advantage of you in "me" cultures. "Me" cultures also take a lot more immigrants and give much more aid to other (we) countries. They have more humanitarian movements and better human rights too.
The differences are very complex.
@@bobdobalina3133 Nice. I've never seen anyone perfectly describe the dark secrets of both cultures so accurately. Well done.
Africans also have a We culture but they are struggling with the disciplinary aspects of it
I met someone who grew up in a middle eastern culture. she was from a collectivist culture. when I had trouble learning a certain lesson, she was so adamant on making sure I knew the material. in my 18 years of life, I had never come across a classmate who basically became an impassioned teacher within a few seconds. so I guess in collectivist cultures, students really aim to make sure their classmates know the material so the whole class can succeed. they all want to rise up together.
I mainly grew up in New York though, and went to a school that really fostered individuality. it also made us very critical at times though, and there was stressful competition but nothing too harsh. so yeah it was just weird speaking to someone who came from a very collectivist culture..but also helpful ngl.
So you thought she was weird for helping you? Wow, I think she would be sad when she hears that.
Weird? You should be thankful that people like that still exist in your society, today its filled with depressed and lonely people a direct correlation from becoming too individualistic within society no wonder suicides are theough the roof in the west!
@@MsHarunaMoonSouth Korea is a collective society yet their suicide rates are off the roof
Growing up with 3 Algerian parents in the US, a mom, step dad, and dad has always been a little different. My dad is a psychology professor who got his PhD in cross cultural communication so I feel like I have a pretty good understanding as to how Algerian culture is different from American culture. My dad comes off as more individualistic than collectivist, he’s been living alone ever since my mom and him divorced 20 years ago. He’s also always told me to enjoy my company and seems to enjoy his own and keep busy with various hobbies. My step dad on the other hand, a social worker with his masters, is very collectivist. Sometimes it can get frustrating because we disagree on how things should be done at times, but at the end of the day it’s clear that he’s really caring and he uses a lot of “we” language. Even when he says I love you, he won’t say I he’ll say we, even if there’s no one else in the house lol. One time I made a “chore chart” to assign specific household chores to each person in the house because chores weren’t being assigned to my sister, my mom & I fairly & it was starting to become an issue because one person was always doing more chores than the other. I saw that this worked in my friends household (her parents were born & raised in the US), so I thought it was an amazing idea that would solve all of our problems with chores not getting done or one person doing more cleaning than the others. I had a chart printed out for each person in my family thinking my step dad would be all for it but he wasn’t 🤣 he was really skeptical and he honestly seemed like he genuinely didn’t understand the concept of each person being in charge of their own chores without being told to do them. It worked out so perfectly in my friends house, but my dad genuinely couldn’t understand the concept, unfortunately we couldn’t even try it. My step dad is always sharing his food and asks us to try some of our food, but will usually end up taking half lol. My mom seems to be collectivist too, but she’s a little more self aware and can notice when I’m slightly uncomfortable or just don’t reciprocate her collectivism. It’s honestly interesting to have 3 parents from Algeria that moved to the US in their 20’s and 30’s. Sometimes we’ll all be in the same room having a convo or eating together (my step dad & my dad get along well, shocking huh?) and I just sit back and observe.
I didn’t mean to write a whole essay, but oh well this topic interests me! Hopefully I gave an insightful example of individualism vs. collectivism.
thanks for sharing, its really interesting to get to know about these differences all around the world
This is fascinating. I would have liked to know how the chore delegation chart would have worked, ah well. Thank you for sharing this! We enjoyed it very much 😉
I live in a collective society. European culture does not look very well in our society. I heard that selfishness is at the forefront rather than stakeholders. Do your interests and opinions stand out more than society?
An Algerian ex husband and a current Algerian husband sitting at the same table with the current and ex Algerian wife sharing a meal like a loving family!!! 😂😂😂 That i don't believe it's impossible, unless they fully adopted the local mindset. in Algeria thay would've been sworn enemies
Practicing both of them is the key, but if I have to choose between them, objectively speaking, the "We" culture seems more stable and healthier for everyone actually living in their society.
Only if everyone wasn't forced to submit themselves to the collective. Collectivism should be voluntary. Individuals should be able to make that decision. It's a human right
@@ketamineanonymous8396 This feeling is only available in those hearts who have a sense of meaning to their life. People who believe in morality, ethics, they belive in the day of judgement, they've this hope to meet God, Believing that there is a difference between good n bad, right n wrong. The most so called rationalist people in this world never give a thought to this idea that what was the point in life and to come here in this world? Are we just here to earn, eat, drink, get married have children, get old and die like no body. I think animals are doing this job better than us. Then why was human better than animal? What is the reason to give human being such status, superiority, brain, intelligence with divine books defining code of conduct.
@IrfanKhan-mp4cb there's more to it as well. Collectivist societies place more emphasis on monetary success... which can lead to a digression of society. Things that wouldn't be able to be traded before or ideas of moderation can lax. An example would be the commoditification of women, the impulse of men, and comfort/security over freedom/liberty... all of these can be volatile to societies with a moral/social framework counter to what is being introduced. It's the quiet wars. Also one of the most effective ways to dispatch\influence a nation is cultural revolutions, no rss needed and no bad PR.
Edit: I said they more focus on monetary success, but it's more of an allowance or permission. And comfort/security means things that makes your life easier (while not necessarily making it better) and refocus of what you should be focusing on (from politics/policies/morals to materialism/beastial cravings) an example is allowing the government to touch the 2nd amendment, knowing that the only real thing keeping the 1st around is it (and vice versa)... along with the rest on the list... for the material comfort and self relief at the groups expense. Another example is how they view women ingeneral in collectivist societies, such as China or Japan. China literally culled their female newborns for production and population control, while Japan has the biggest porn following and pervert culture ingeneral. The Christian foundations of the US call for individualism for the good of the group that's another reason eastern standards collide with it (atheist myself but Christianity has a good moral ground work many can relate to real stories that the individual can identify with that at its core promotes goodwill and selflessness... which is important qualities to be looking for when you place someone in power over you and ingeneral, now how people follow the religion or the question of God I'd argue with).
@@ketamineanonymous8396we should split up the personality types lol countries split by personality profile could be great
My dad’s canadien and my mom’s korean so I have both cultures. I’m more of a « we » culture though.
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I think its very important for many students/immigrants to be aware about this culture difference because it affects a lot on the persons ability to succeed and be perceived within the society. In a 'We' culture, people are more reserved and they are not as direct as 'Me' people, its important to be direct in a 'Me' society, if you are going through hardships, unjust or racism. Or if you have achieved something great or have an amazing quality about yourself, you need to share it to whoever might need to know or could know, because in a 'me' society, many people tend to take things at face value, so what you see is what you are getting. No ones going to assume you are great or in pain, you need to represent yourself in a genuine, guilt free way so that people respect you if you have done something great, or talk to you when you share your pain. I say this because being in a 'Me' culture can be hard sometimes, in a 'We' culture, people are taught to respect everyone and anyone but mostly on who they are (for example, you need to respect your elders in many east asian countries). however it is perfectly normal to confront elder people in western societies with words no person in the 'We' culture would dare say to an elderly. So know that you don't get treated by who you are, you dont get a "respect me for free beacuse im older than you card", you get treated by how you represent yourself as a person, so make sure to represent yourself!
I’m an American I think neither culture is right or wrong it’s just different. U kno it’s nothing wrong with neither independent or being involved with your community. But in my opinion in most western societies people who are individuals tend to do their own thing and not care what most people think u kno cause we have our own lives to live and can’t live for others especially when we are adults. Now we may take some people’s opinions in consideration but at the end of the day we have to do what’s best for us. Because in the west as individuals we pay our own bills and feeding ourselves cause nobody else is doing it. Whereas people in most eastern societies will tend to care what most people think because they are not only representing themselves they represent everyone in their community. They usually need to get blessing from their parents and/or other elders in their community. If they do anything that brings shame to their community they can be shunned and all. Like when u look at people who live in West tend to be more modern and liberal. They see and accept changes in the world. If your are in the East people are more traditional which means they live by social norms they have lived since the beginning. Now In some countries in the East could be changing but it’s going slow u know changes don’t happen overnight. It takes time and patience for them to happen. But no matter where u from or live u just gotta treat people with respect and all. Don’t insult the way they live or interact with one another
This is a very important thing that rarely discused.We know that there are different between western cultures and eastern cultures.Individualistic and collectivism only small part of these different.There are still plenty of different things.
Asian countries have been westernized rapidly in the past 100-150 years and are becoming more individualistic (for better or worse). So that means this dichotomy is mattering less and less. It really depends on the person and their environment or upbringing. The examples in this video should only be taken with a grain of salt.
Family shame is soo prevelant to asia culture. And that means Your dead wrong
Its depends on which family, really.
There is some truth in what you say! People in Asian cities are slowly drifting towards "me" culture, whereas people living in smaller towns or villages still adopt "we" culture. This was not the case 50 years back.
Exactly! Where I grew up in Asia but I myself I prefer “Individualism” anytime, and anywhere! Where for me I can’t get over being in the “Collectivism” culture at all😑!
Honestly, Family relations were important the western countries too in the past. Recently, After industrilzation, And certian things happened that made them individualist
Grew up on both sides of the Fence, My mom's Japanese so I grew up as a child to early youth in Japan where we were raised on collective thinking and is HEAVILY built on the idea of acting and thinking of others than yourself. For instance, simple enough example but something that is taught in Japan that probably exemplifies this "Collective" thinking perfectly. On an escalator in Japan, it's almost common sense that people who are just idly going up or down stand on the Right-hand side of the escalator so that you can make way for people that are in a hurry so that they can walk up the left-hand side of the escalator. People act and move as a whole to benefit one another, and acting out of the group would usually warrant you A LOT of attention.
On the other hand, I grew up in my later years in America, and yeah. The difference between the mindset of these two Cultures is vastly different.
I learned that in America, you're rewarded for being selfish, you almost HAVE to be selfish. Nothing that others do is rarely equated to their success when and if they do succeed.
Also, because here in the US they have this fetish for being "independent" family ties are slightly frowned upon. For example, In Asian Culture it is generally not taboo to live with your parents well into adulthood being that most of them do have a career job and do chip in for rent and is also a way to pay back to your parents by taking care of them in old age as to show your appreciation.
However, in America, It's almost HAVE to move out by your 18yrs old.
One thing that made me scratch my head, I was dating a girl raised somewhere in the Mainland, as I live in Hawaii. The Rent out here can be a lot, and it's usually not TOO uncommon to see families living and splitting rent in one house. Whole families. I was working two jobs at the time at 22yrs old and I remember that she made a remark about me still living with my parents at 22.
While she was visiting here for college whose trip, finances, college tuition, dorm fee, living expenses, allowance was all hand given by her parents lmao and I couldn't help but think "huh.... okay."
I've been working since I was 15yrso old to support myself. Tf? haha. Wasn't even the ignorant jab at my living circumstance that made me cringe, it was how unaware of how pampered she is and somehow thought she was making it ALL herself. I had to laugh. Through and through, Yeah where there is a downfall from both cultural perspectives... I'd rather be a collective thinker that's considerate of others than a selfish, self-centered fuck. But that's just me though.
Haha, interesting story. In fact, I think you're the individualistic one. You're self-reliant, while the girl you dated is colletivistic since she's relying on others for financial supplication.
@@THEanovah Collecitivism doesn't mean leeching money off your parents. The crap are you talking about?
@@mgbenz Said by someone who spelt collectivism wrongly
Umm, It is bad. But, It was opposite in the west too in the past 😅
i disagree with your very last sentence. with that case, consider not having a personality, a name, and a soul
my context: one can still be considerate to their society while still retain their sense of individuality and uniqueness. i call it ‘synergy’
I am proud of to born as a turk in istanbul. I learned western and eastern culture. Both are different but both have great perspective
Same in the Philippines asian and western influence.
I'm a me culture person who borns in we culture society. Sometimes it's suck.
hjaja bjka
Fuck we society.
And i'm the opposite. It sucks the same
Not sometimes But always
you should leave the east
I’m the opposite 😃
This is such a well done video- the examples, the graphics, the context and the detailed explanation is accurate but also accessible to people with a lower level of English. Thank you~
me culture more independent.
we culture more dependent.
Cuze there great unity when we depend on each other
Me culture - everyman for himself.
We culture - no one wins unless everyone wins.
ataya
Me culture unorganized and we culture much organized
Very well done 😅 for example when I said "We should minimize our own biasness." And then saying, "I should minimize my own biasness." Saying both won't hurt at all.
I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships
I am an American and I noticed that people from other cultures think that I am too independent, afraid to ask for help, a perfectionist, and really hard on myself.
Interesting - a blend of both is lovely
Nature Creativity Culture Life yea I agree, my family is about 50/50 but I think I would like more 75% individualistic 25% collective
Oh it would be splendid if this were an actual realistic choice
No, that's a nightmare
No , it is not. Believe me.
No it won’t.
No one is better than the other. just respect every existence.
@@jack_Hughes their definitions are subjective
Western is the winner
@@Zygothknightlord No
Where is the rest of Asia ? East doesnt mean only East Asia
East means East and Southeast Asia. Oriental Asia pretty much.
No already yes
I already learned this
@@whatamidoingeatingsushi2677 I would beg to differ. South Asian culture is still closer to East Asian culture than it is to Western culture. Many East Asian concepts like fillal piety, strong emphasis on education, stability over risk, respect for authorities, religious pluralism, etc, can be found in South Asia. There's also the influence of Buddhism which can be felt in both regions. Ultimately, geography is destiny.
Maybe it because Asia is on the east side of the world? I dont know 🤷♀️
I want my own food so I get what exactly I want, and happy that others too can get exactly what they want.
Wouldn't you also be happy trying out a multitude of different meals and tastes? That is to say there would be just enough for everyone at the table to eat and no one would leave hungry. Of course, we all have our own preferences when it comes to things like these and there are no wrong or right choices -- just choices.
Anglo-Germanic cultures are more “ME CULTURES”
Latin-Romance cultures are more “WE CULTURES”
But which one is western culture???
I’m so sick of those stupid identity terms! I’m a Venezuelan living in the US, apparently all the things I was told in Venezuela in some way relate me with the US and they don’t like it, so now I’m not only an American but also I’m not part of the Western Culture.
My mom is Italian, my dad is Spaniard but I’m not considered white in the US.
Then wtf am I according with the “Western World“?
How is that identities can also be bought? It is so stupid!
@@juancarlosrosalesmeza6755
I know its pretty stupid
judging by the origin of the definition latin greek cultures were the first western, so by that mean all latin europe and latin america should be western cultures as well
but according to americans the new definition of western means super individualism, the right to self realization, how independent you are from Gov, Beliefs, politics, economics, etc, prioritizing you over everyone else, opposing to a collective society.
thats why most people believe americans dont have any culture, you as venezuelan probably identify more with the venezuelan mentality than the individualistic americans with no identity other than their own.
thats just one example but there are many others that define what a western society is rather than just the origins of democracy.
It’s actually a sliding scale, not black and white! America, Germany and Scandinavia are considered the most Low Context and Individualistic cultures. Japan, Korea and China are generally considered the most High Context and Collectivistic. Most other cultures tend to fall in between but may lean slightly more one way or another. Latin Romance cultures lean more on the collectivist side- but it’s not as intense as in East Asia. I think this video was just trying to show the extremes.
This video is based off of the Individualistic/Collectivistic Cultures concept by the psychologist Gerard Hofstede in the 80’s.
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So, does that mean we all are “western” whenever we take decisions to benefit ourselves and we are “eastern” when we think for the benefit of all of us?
no. Latin Romance Cultures are individuals.
The key is to practice both, and in some ways, we already do. On a macro level, it has to be WE. However, being responsible for yourself has to be instilled from the getgo.
we culture is better. when people get old their children take care of them. Whereas me culture lacks that. Me culture causes more depression and lead to suicide whereas in we culture this problem is very rare but still there.
not neccesarily, there are a large number of suicides in nations such as japan. There are benefits to both cultures, i consider my self a bit of both as my parents were raised in sri lanka but i was raised in austrlia so i take the cultures from both nations and appreciate both of them. But yes what yoy say certainly make sense
I prefer western culture, I think self identity and confidence is important opposed to just blending in
@@sharondance449 Agree
South Korea is a we culture however the elderly there are getting neglected and the suicide rate is extremely high on the elderly as kids don’t have the time and energy to take care of them unfortunately.
we culture has a bunch of hypocrites you know that
Eastern culture is build on ancient tradition and rules. West break rules and change them with development.
Patel Vidhu yes so east is better and west is bombing killing evershere typical colonists
Nagendra Sardar no the only thing why people move to west is financially beter and future for kids im immigrant too and we are gonna leave when kids done school its smart isnt it
@@hirsizvar9835 If west didnt exist east would be centuries behind in all development.
@@metalbotanist6730 LOL how so? Lots of philosophy came mostly from the east.. they develop cure - medicines, maths, technology, etc... dont forget that the west were in dark ages for 300 years, they started to develop once the knowledge from the east came to them.
@@quebecaaa1238 So did west, Greeks and Romans were and are European after all. And the dark ages are called that just because there wasnt much written left about them, but there were still technological advancements. Europe started to develop once civilization spread t them after rome fell, for some time their advancements were slowed down by Christianity (which come from the middle east) but as soon as they threw it out advancements were made faster and faster than ever before. By the time USA had steam ships Japanese were living like in the medieval ages.
Even collectivist cultures do allow some degree of individualism. There is just a more emphasis on societal cohesion. Collective cultures are not usually totalitarian and they should not be perceived as such. I actually find individualism more totalitarian than collectivism because although we have freedom we receive little to no support from others and we are pressured to adapt to the dominant culture just in order to survive and live a normal life.
This video is biased towards showing what it calls _we_ societies (collectivist societies) as better than _me_ societies (individualistic societies). Most of the times the so-called _we_ societies subjugate people to the will of the majority, leading people to carry unhappy lives only because hypocrisy, conformity and being "normal" is the core of social life leaded by this imaginary "majority"; while in the societies in which individuals are better respected often achieve better decisions and cultural traits through the consensus of many individuals.
By the other hand, there's no pure _me_ or _we_ society on Earth.
I mostly agree although humans are not just suppose to advance themselves, but everyone around them as well. These we cultures are not bad at all, I disagree when you say they are unhappy, unhappiness seems to be a bigger problem in me cultures because everyone feels like they have to stand above everyone else when in reality, one person can only do so much. I see the good in both cultures but I guess everyone has their opinions.
interesting comment
Me and we = tea
Oh man ..
And kids, here we got the genius......
Individuals can unite for common goals such as huge construction projects and wars while maintaining their individualism. When westerners do things as a group there is more input from individuals leading to more creative input for the projects they are creating. As for Hive Cultures (Eastern) The group is conformed to the one individual deemed the leader. The leader is the "I" of the group. Everyone lives for him (not her) and his job is to protect the group (himself). In war they fight for the group and not their individual families or children. When the leader dies his oldest offspring will be his replacement unless an individual arises within the group to overthrow him. In politics each group is like one person which is lead by the leading group and resembles the lower level groups. Hive Culturalism, for these reasons, are very limited in creativity.
Thanks for this concise explanation of such an important dynamic I will make a video with an elaboration and my speculation on a main cause of that
There is problem in each system…
Having lived in eastern culture for most of my life, I can see those flaws closely… There is always a pressure to conform to a certain role in the society which limits your potential and creativity… This also results in controlling behavior from the elders towards the younger.
TY for this information. This video was made before the COVID-19 pandemic and outbreak of wars in Eastern Europe, Northern Africa, and Israel-Palestine. I don't think there clearly exists a demarcation between "me" and "we" societies anymore. Our world has become so geopolitically and environmentally unstable that the "we" philosophy is becoming more dominant in all parts of the world.
While we, Americans, still pride ourselves in our individualism, we are adopting many aspects of the "we". Large group gatherings are often seen in parks and restaurants where I live. The concept of "family" is broader than it used to be. Our Immediate families are considered anyone who is in our circle of life, i.e.parents, siblings, close friends, neighbors, and trusted work colleagues are our "family" these days. We're not to the same level of "we" as our Asian counterparts, but we aren't too far behind coming out of the pandemic.
I think the hardest part for me is remembering that there are significant cultural differences that are still in place. I traveled to several countries in the past and enjoyed most of the cultures I experienced (i.e. all except for Italy). I've been to the UK, Germany, France, China, South Korea, Japan, Mexico, Belize, Canada, and Australia, My business took me to many places across the USA. In each place, I found elements of both the "me" and "we" philosophies at the same time. I haven't traveled since the pandemic, but I don't think this duality is as rigid as shown here since the global disease forced many people to change how they live their lives. There's more of a philosophical blending.of the two extremes that's taking place today. And as climate change and politics make the world more volatile and immigration increases, 'we" societies will become the only way to survive.
Again, TY for this discussion. It's an important one needing more of my own understanding. I sometimes forget that there are cultural differences that must be acknowledged and respected. 👍🤔
Individualism is just a polite way to say selfish
Yes. Selfishness is useful in moderation.
So "we" is a polite way to say conformity then? Maybe context matters.
Brazil is seen as a collectivist society, but it really depends on who and where you are, I'm an individualist, and many people I know are also individualists, especially in big cities.
Thank you for sharing! That's an interesting observation, it's possible that urban and rural environments affect this as well.
I LOVE this video but, and this is a BIG but: Why does the video completely overlook/ignore African societies and Indigenous peoples (such as Native Americans or Pasifika peoples)?
you should see how Chinese are treated in the South Africa ruclips.net/video/il_jQLN0MkQ/видео.html
We societies have friendlier people but people turn out very similar. That's why when my white friend went to japan all the Japanese girls wanted to get to know him because he was new and different. Really shows how different the me culture is.
You’re stupid
As a human, he/she/they (as stupid as sometimes your language is) need someone to get along with. Needs someone to talk with/communicate with to express ideas and feelings. That is one of the basic needs of a person who acts NORMALLY. If someone appears to be around you and you don’t give any fuck about them/her/him then YOU’RE NOT A NORMAL HUMAN BEING. THAT’S JUST HOW IT IS.
its because they know western people have large dongs genius
especially those east german women
A little too narcissistic I would say. It's just that it's rare for people in some Eastern countries (such as Japan, Philippines, and etc.) to actually meet foreigners and be able to interact with them. That's a common reaction, idk what you're talking about. Wut?
I'm from Taiwan, and In my experience it's about finding balance. collectivism could lead to passive agressivness, and often abuse, people(who is being abused or who witness one)afraid to speak up because of what others will think of them or judge them. also could stop one to pursue their dream, just to make others happy, or to pursue other's dream for them. often people see a car crash, and nobody go to help, I think its because of fear or what other would think of them(don't want to stand out) or don't want to embarrassed the people who are in the crash.
but again, I think with internet and travel, the world is so much complex than ever.
Thank you for sharing☺️❤️💕
Thanks for watching!
Sharing/giving and collectivism are not the same thing even if they overlap.
great video! explains a lot!
Really great video to understand the main difference beetween the 2 big cultures divisions!! #Knovvaacademy
A lot of times people in Me-culture become self centred and narcissistic
This is often overlooked I would say mental health issues also correlate to it problem is me culture is practiced today more extreme compared to what it was 20-30 years ago hence why western society is on a decline.
FYI, that's not the Australian Flag. That's not anyone's flag, it appears to be a hybrid of Australia and New Zealand.
Hi from Germany
I am both I am form The USA but my parents form China
You are form the USA? Form?
Phillip LeBlanc shut up
@@isaacvance5090 LOL
I had to watch this for school
culture is one of many factors that influence who we are
Our next evolutionary state is to become the Individual-collective. Were we recognize the right of the individual and how one maintains and composes the whole.
This video is good it's just the opening hurt my ears with earphone omg
Thank you for the suggestion!
Eastern Cultures are more practical and powerfull
I think you missed the Black sea and Bulgaria
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Much more love in a WE culture
One quick way I notice the difference is the treatment of the elder families. Are they sent to a care home or are they with the family.
@@Michael-st9ky This part they are all the same.
How can you make this video? Any software or website I can use design that kind of cartoon video ?
Eastern culture is best because team work and family
Unexpected problem take a wrong decisions me that time family member can help
And then they expect you to do everything they want you to do. I call that slavery.
@@metalbotanist6730 well you can ask them back to do whatever you want... it's about togetherness
I think latin american can relate to the collectivist society of eastern culture
@@quebecaaa1238 Togetherness is such context doesnt exist once someone starts do diverge from the norm.
I spent over 40 years in the West (Me) and have lived in Asia (We) for going on 20 years. Both have benefits and downsides. One thing I know from experience is this, Me cultures expect and facilitate critical thinking. This is something that very rarely gets exhibited in We cultures. Look at the richest most successful countries in the world, they are all Me cultures.
The easily solution is promote diversity of culture, allow groups of people who are of different opinions to establish their own little communities as per their own guidelines and standards, if a group of asians in America want to form a "reservation" style of community with their own local laws and customs let them, that way they will be happier than they would be by being forced to live in an individualist manner and likewise those who want individualism should have their own individualist communities, i think the issue with politics rises when groups of people want to force their way of life on others and stamp out all alternatives
Nice, in your view-- but it is an old and new culture, old cultures are we culture (Strong in unity and numbers) new culture ( me culture are strong individually, may call it ADVANCE) ( I am a Eurasian
We easterners love our culture
🇮🇳🇯🇵🇮🇷🇨🇳🇰🇷.
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We westerners love our culture
🇩🇪🇫🇷🇨🇭🇺🇲🇨🇦
@@gamermapper 🇵🇱 🇳🇿
But together westerners & easterners
🇩🇪🇮🇳🇫🇷🇯🇵🇨🇭🇮🇷🇺🇸🇨🇳🇨🇦🇰🇷🇵🇱🇰🇿🇻🇳🇳🇿
What the hell did I write
What about cultures in "the south"??? Why is the question framed as west vs east???
Can I use this in my project?
Feel free to quote the content for your project!
Me culture For The Win.
Makes the human race move FORWARD.
@@juniper7655
You have a communistic way of thinking, not good, and it's been PROVEN.
@@hectorcardenas2171 In a football match, players in one team strategically cooperates and passes the ball to someone who can find an opening to score a goal while every player in the other team wants to dribble past the opponent, score a goal and be the best player on the pitch. Which team do you think is going to win?
主观，客观；感性，理性；直觉，逻辑；
经验，分析；东方，西方；右脑，左脑；
左手，右手；女人，男人；婉转，直接；
茶道，可乐；音乐，数学；汉字，字母；
宏观，微观；地球，原子；光线，电子；
集体，个人；集权，民主；中庸，真理；
Hey there, interesting video! Good food for thought. Just a small issue on your map though, you have Ecuador and Peru fused together. We are border and brother countries but we are not fused as the map shows. Sincerely, a we person living in a me society (and getting nuts because of it! haha)
you should see how Chinese are treated in the South Africa ruclips.net/video/il_jQLN0MkQ/видео.html
Hey! Can we include the cultural differences in BELIEFS OR VALUES? For e.g - If we have to cite an answer in which we have to state the belief or value very different from ours. Can we state the cultural differences in the east or west? Do different cultural come under the category of VALUES OR BELIEFS? Hoping for an early response. Thanks and the video was very informative.
i'm here because of our teacher she wants us to do a reaction paper 🤣
Thank You!
We culture is the best!
Maybe. But Mozart, Chopin, Beethoven, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Picasso, Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Baryshnikov, Nureyev, Gaudi were born and created in the culture ME
Go away you communist bastard!
@@Mjak-yd3og and really no one except possibly da Vinci and Shakespeare have really affected my life
@@rakhithamutucumarana7735 I feel sorry for you. These are just sample names. You probably don't even know many of these names and many others.
@@Mjak-yd3og I do in fact. But their influence has been marginal. I'm not really into classical music or dance or ballet for that matter. However I do understand there are Western philosophers who have influenced my studies as I'm doing a bsc in international relations.
What I mean to say, there are equally important individuals who have come from the "we" culture. Gandhi , Confucius , Srinivasan Ramanujan, Sun Tzu, Gautama Buddha , Genghis Khan, Tagore , Farrokh Bulsara, Anish Kapoor, Indira Gandhi , Ravi Shankar, Bruce Lee and many more
Amei o video! Parabens!!!
What is the characters of this video?
The "caption" or subtitles are kinda off 😑
3:00 start without waiting ofc
Here for my UTS class
Now I have more understanding and clues as to why in business in the west. The greeds stole my shits and discredited me
are there similarities you also found based on your explanation?
Latinamerica is western and we are a "We" community, not everybody in America is me culture
west is where your mom loves a outsider than you
west is where parents only care about eachother
west is where children have no family or home
west is where your both parents divorced and married to outsider and they put you in boarding school because their lovers don't like you
west is where children leave their loving parents
west is where children put their parents in nurseries
west is corrupted and fucked
@@dimuthbhanuka1027 stop trolling please!
Wait there. The West isn’t just the germanic world . What about the latin romance huh? This video kinda excludes the french, spanish,italian and latinos. If u go to Spain and then go to Germany u’ll see a difference.
Me is individuation, we is enmeshment trauma.
WHAT IS THE BACKGROUND MUSIC PLSS
constructive criticism. in your next video make sure the audio is significantly reduced. I had to use the closed caption to understand your narration.
Thank you for the advice!
Even though there is a lot more deference’s but it nice video
As a individual you can't do many things, but as Family, Group we can do a lot more things. Or you think one individual can build a 10 floor House... I don't think so. As Group we are stronger. Why do you thing lions are one of the best hunters on the world, because they hunt as group or family.
Individuals can unite for common goals such as huge construction projects and wars while maintaining their individualism. When westerners do things as a group there is more input from individuals leading to more creative input for the projects they are creating. As for Hive Cultures (Eastern) The group is conformed to the one individual deemed the leader. The leader is the "I" of the group. Everyone lives for him (not her) and his job is to protect the group (himself). In war they fight for the group and not their individual families or children. When the leader dies his oldest offspring will be his replacement unless an individual arises within the group to overthrow him. In politics each group is like one person which is lead by the leading group and resembles the lower level groups. Hive Culturalism, for these reasons, are very limited in creativity.
I think that in latin America these two concepts are mixed
Europe too. Me-culture dominant, but more we-culture than suggested in the beginning of the video.
@@Never_again_against_anyone The more south and east you go in Europe, the more 'we' it becomes
The concepts are mixed everywhere. It's about the degree to which a country would embrace each concept. And latin America does embrace more we-culture.
stb please help me , i dont understand
好的視頻非常有用
Thank you and glad you enjoy it :)
@@KnovvaAcademy lol did u even get his language... He just drawn hut above huts 🏯 😛
I think some of the things in this video was wrong like blaming the person's personality for being late but I understand that it's meant to show Eastern culture compared to Western so it has to make it look good
Why aren't we a "We" culture? It makes so much sense.
So deeep
r/iam14andthisisdeep
No its stupid and dumb most of the third world countries suffer from We culture
@@nev4696 China has it.they don't suffer
@@davidregi7571 then again china is a communist country
@@davidregi7571 it does suffer because of it
For me the best is a me culture with family tradition just like the west used to be
The pre-industrial west was much more of a we culture than a me culture.
#SupportAmerica ☺️🇺🇲
Of course everyone is different.
Is American culture for real me me me me me or instead is it strength based during the belief that each member's contribution to the team is what makes that team work well together. When each person on a team is earning as much recognition as possible from the people at the top instead of competing with themselves to grow how is that necessarily automatic going to be benefiting the whole of that community? For example a person from any kind of American background would be competing with themselves when it comes to honing their own listening skills to be looking for the best in others.
having western culture, values, religion, language, etc. does not mean you are western physically.
you can have anything western in you, but if you don't look white or European, you will never be recognized or considered as western.
The term western is basically also about what you look like. Do you look white? Do you look European?
The term western synonymous to European or white
Example:
Western culture = European culture
Western language = European language
Western food = Food of Europeans
Western tradition = European tradition or tradition of white or European people
He looks Western = He looks European / He looks white
She doesn't look Western = She doesn't look white / She doesn't look European
This subject is subjective.
How hard is it to be a we type in a me culture?
it is very hard, i hate it a lot but i must work hard to leave this culture. it makes me want to kill myself haha but no worries, i believe i can escape.
its a great myth that the Indian culture is collectivist, the religion of Hinduism the dominant religion of my country is a rugged individualist one and is based on the idea that only the individual has a chance as well as the responsibility of realizing god
Yes but socially you live by very Collectivist values compared to the Western Countries, who's main religion Christianity is (very ironically) Collectivist so don't read into that too much.
Also here in the West we've been spoilt by material wealth leading to greed and sense of community + decline in moral values, whilst I'm not claiming to be perfect I have struggled being a Collectivist thinker in an Individualistic Society !
@@danielfazakerley709 Yeah, People just sterotype everything.
We cultures
*I SMELL COMMUNISM*
I want in
You spy
In every culture, no matter their gender, creed, or etc., their are good and bad. Sad that those that are bad try to trick others in believing they (the bad) are really good, which is a form of hype.
Harey tak paham... Aku tengok video ni just sbb tc suruh ja 😴