What I've Learnt From Dive Watches: Oris, Baltic, Vostok. Review and Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
  • In this video I make a direct comparison of the Oris Divers 65 Bronze or Bico, the Baltic Aquascaphe and the Vostok Amphibia diver.
    Let's find which quality is connected to which price and what is the major difference between French, Swiss and Russian watches.
    03:58 Start of the review in the lightbox
    06:04 Crystals
    07:51 Dials
    10:14 Bezels
    13:11 Crowns
    15:42 Movements
    19:15 Bracelets & Strap
    21:31 The watches on the wrist
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Комментарии • 186

  • @rjw4199
    @rjw4199 4 года назад +39

    To second Arnaud Meert's comment, the real appeal of the Vostok goes well beyond its aesthetic. Whether it be the wobbly crown or the plexiglass, the Vostok is an example of intention and ingenuity all around. While its price-tag or initial appearance may indicate the contrary, it is likely safe to say that the Vostok is actually the most significant watch of the three from a horological standpoint. Certainly, the build quality can't compare but then again, its perhaps also the only one that can be boiled, frozen, run over by a fiat panda, and still keep ticking. Nonetheless, great video Tim!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад +3

      Thank you!

    • @neverknowinglyunders
      @neverknowinglyunders 4 года назад +8

      And has an in house movement!

    • @allywoods4119
      @allywoods4119 4 года назад +6

      if that's not testament to build quality......... perhaps not finesse, but as form follows function.. they will continue to function and therein lies admiration

    • @-----REDACTED-----
      @-----REDACTED----- 3 года назад +2

      Mind also be on record of being a dive watch officially rated at 200m depth but is on record of failing only after 800+m depth.
      Try that with a more expensive watch, not sure it would be as rugged.

  • @bovinejoni4243
    @bovinejoni4243 4 года назад +8

    When you compared the Vostok bracelet to an 80’s Seiko I thought you were calling it a “psycho bracelet” and that is probably a fair description.

  • @derekshearer9049
    @derekshearer9049 4 года назад +29

    I own Rolex, Tudor, Steinhart, Orient and a couple of Vostok. I wear my Vostok more than the others. They are great watches.... A lot of fun...

    • @ulrikreimann652
      @ulrikreimann652 4 года назад +3

      I have about 20 watches that are a lot more expensive than my 2 Vostoks - but I love the russians at least as mush as the germans, italians and the swiss ones.

    • @trevbarlow9719
      @trevbarlow9719 3 года назад +1

      You wear a Vostok more than your Rolex?

    • @derekshearer9049
      @derekshearer9049 3 года назад +1

      @@trevbarlow9719. Yup, l have eight Vostok and only one Rolex and one Tudor... The Rotation of watches is eight to one ratio.. Throw in The Tudor and Steinhart and the Vostoks get the most wrists time...

  • @michaelbedford8017
    @michaelbedford8017 4 года назад +22

    Now that's what I call a REAL comparison. Great!
    I would recommend the Vostok.
    He'll learn more about watches from one of these that you can learn elsewhere; and all for the princely sum of €100. Doesn't matter if he bashes it about a bit, so he should have no fear about 'babying' it.
    After he's had one of these he can then decide if he wants to take things further.
    Rock solid 200m WR
    Even Rolex folk don't laugh at them.
    A great horology story behind it.
    Best value anywhere.
    You can even get most of your back
    secondhand.
    Q.E.D.
    Off memory I think the 'scape' comes from Picards 'Bathyscape' diving bell from the 1960's.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад

      👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @onetwoxplore
    @onetwoxplore Год назад +1

    Spot-on with the music AND the watch profiles. Thanks for upload

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 2 года назад +3

    The hilarious thing is, the Vostok is the only one of the three to survive testing to over 700m !

  • @groberts1780
    @groberts1780 4 года назад +42

    It has always seemed to me that if you need a date complication on your diver that you are in deep trouble.

    • @SJCB27
      @SJCB27 4 года назад +1

      G Roberts With you there, Mate! And how difficult is it to find a nice one with "No Date"? Black Sub, Seamaster 300, those Farers Compressors... Running out of steam now.

    • @morgan97475
      @morgan97475 4 года назад +1

      No pun intended...?

    • @kjd9634
      @kjd9634 4 года назад +3

      A lot of people wear divers on days they are not in the sea, so a date function is necessary. But each to their own.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Jim-hw4bx
      @Jim-hw4bx 3 года назад

      @@SJCB27 the black submariner come also without a date, you have the choice with it.

  • @MJFallout
    @MJFallout 4 года назад +5

    I really enjoy my Vostok (090 case, 'barrel'; transitional, hand-wind only)
    Yet, IMO you have to have a DIY mindset to enjoy Vostok.
    Like, the movement works, and lasts, no problems; well except for accuracy: You'll have to regulate it yourself.
    The slightly janky, low-tech bezel: If it's too tight or too loose, adjust it yourself, or switch it out entirely for a nicer looking one.
    Acrylic crystal also: They are quite nice; that is as long as you don't mind polishing them every once in a while.
    And then there are still more upgrade parts available for your Vostok: Nicer crown, fit it yourself, nicer caseback, fit it yourself. (In addition to your common fare optional bracelets and straps)
    If my Vostok fell off a cliff today, I'd buy a new one tomorrow, and then spend many months getting all the adjustments just right.

  • @mps9649
    @mps9649 Месяц назад +1

    Late to the bandwagon but love the Vostok- Russian ingenuity at its finest. Great example of how the engineers thought outside the box to build a tool watch that does everything and does it better as an actual diver.

  • @thetimemachine3828
    @thetimemachine3828 4 года назад +4

    Hi Tim. Great upload. Great watches.
    That Oris is exquisite. The Baltic is a very solid watch with a great vintage design. I adore Vostok, but vintage Vostok is my bag. I have some incredible vintage Vostok watches. 3 in particular are very special: A 1966 Komandirskie with a tonneau case, a 1977 Amphibia that is reminiscent of a Rolex mil-sub design - on its Connery 'Bond' nato I call it my 'if 007 was a double agent' watch!, and finally, a rare military edition Komandirskie with a spider webbed tropical dial that has developed a purplish brown hue in a (uncoated) bronze case. It's a remarkably beautiful piece.
    I would encourage you or anyone else to look at collecting a few vintage Soviet pieces. They are so inexpensive to buy and maintain and are a heap of fun!
    Thank-you for another great video.

  • @deedee8568
    @deedee8568 4 года назад +2

    Love your music choices.
    Your musicianship, attire and richly informed presentations make distinct videos; fantastic 😊.

  • @morgan.enfield
    @morgan.enfield 4 года назад +5

    The bezel of the Baltic is sapphire (not ceramic) and with the bead of rice bracelet (as you can see on their website) this watch is gorgeous and one of my favourites.

  • @RocketSlug
    @RocketSlug 4 года назад +10

    I've had my eye on that Baltic for a while. I've been thinking about a more vintage diver that isn't something that's from the Fifty Fathoms/Submariner branch of the family, and it fits the bill in terms of aesthetic. Though now that I checked their website there's now an Aquascaphe in bronze!

  • @BoogurTWang
    @BoogurTWang 4 года назад +11

    That Bsltic is very nice.

  • @outyonder33
    @outyonder33 2 года назад +1

    Great show as always 👍🏼💯

  • @stevefox8605
    @stevefox8605 4 года назад +7

    I've been into watches since the late '80s,&in that time I've killed 3 vostok & an ETA but never a Japanese movement.. Now I wear Selitas and Seiko (&hopefully an Omega soon).
    Cheers Tim 👍🏻

  • @richardb22
    @richardb22 4 года назад +1

    As always interesting opinions and 23mins long . Maximum enjoyment. Three very interesting watches and all three are watches that I could see myself wearing. Excellent . All the Best Tim.

  • @ny3dfan781
    @ny3dfan781 3 года назад +3

    It’s not just the look with the Vostok. It’s also the clever engineering that provided a novel solution to the dive watch problem, validated in service with Soviet and Russian military divers.

  • @steven3379
    @steven3379 4 года назад +2

    Good comparison! You hit on very good points... I have the Boctok in a 710 case, it has no lugs "per se" but it was the color of the dial that "grabbed" me. Thanks for the video!

  • @anthonydaquino6934
    @anthonydaquino6934 4 года назад +8

    I bought in to the Vostok hype and purchased an Amphibia about 4 years ago. I was so excited and wore it exclusively for 3 months. At the end of those months, the bracelet gave out, so no problem, I put it on a NATO. Then, another month later, I noticed moisture condensing under the crystal. I took it to my local watchmaker, and it failed the pressure test at only 3 ATM!!!! I still wore it for another couple months, but then it became so wildly inaccurate that I gave up. No more Vostoks for me. However, I liked the look so much I couldn’t bring myself to throw it away. I still keep it in my watch box!!!!

    • @GeckoCkCkCk
      @GeckoCkCkCk 4 года назад

      You could replace it for $50 if you are willing to wait 3-4 months for Russia Post which will put it on a ship during the pandemic. That's cheaper than a pressure test or service in a developed country. The extra $16 for UPS Saver delivery within a week is worth it.
      komandirskie.com/catalog/amfibiya/amfibiya_klassika/

    • @mr.t2553
      @mr.t2553 4 года назад +2

      It seems you were very unluky then because I bought 2 Amphibias 9 years ago and wore them a lot. I swam and jumped in water with them in the sea, in rivers, in swiming pools, wore them in +50 celsius and left one outside on my balcony at -35 celsius. One was left on the original bracelet that failed only a month ago (it was the one of the two I wore the most). Precision is not crazy of course at around +30 seconds a day but good enough for the fun I get from watches I bought at the time for 2000 rubles each (back then it was more or less equivalent to 50 euros).

    • @GeckoCkCkCk
      @GeckoCkCkCk 4 года назад +1

      Amphibias are cheap enough to have a backup which is way faster than servicing.

    • @mr.t2553
      @mr.t2553 4 года назад +1

      GeckoCkCkCk I still consider to have mines serviced soon as I got used to them and after 9 years they deserve it.

    • @GeckoCkCkCk
      @GeckoCkCkCk 4 года назад +3

      @@mr.t2553 I bought mine to use in the sea, to replace a Bulova that leaked and went for repair 3 times and kept on leaking. So for me, better to have a backup and save myself the torture. I have 12 Vostok Amphibias now. I was trained as a child to always tighten the crown of a Seiko lady's diver I was given. It never leaked. I haven't lost an Amphibia yet. But if I ever do, no problem. I have lots of backups.

  • @kathekollwitz7910
    @kathekollwitz7910 4 года назад +15

    The Oris is the most beautiful, but the Wostok is the funniest.

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад

      Damn you Sir.......even if you're right.....

  • @onetwoxplore
    @onetwoxplore 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for the video and effort.
    Vostok is the perfect cross between Seiko and Timex. Certainly, Vostok does everything Timex should but does not. Vostok’s functionality and variety of dials are mind-blowing and the font and overall aesthetics of the brand are unique design achievements. I own some Vostok vintage pieces - nothing like them. The mods can be crazy fab.
    Rolex and everyone imitating them is a big “yawn factor” for me. I love Rolex but only vintage pieces. AD pedantry and marketing ploys coupled with new bling are not appealing.
    The Baltic is an homage watch but mostly to an age and not just a super brand. There is some resemblance to the mid-50s Rolex Submariner, but the Baltic still maintains a flavor all its own. Achieving the vintage look by using narrower lugs was a brilliant design call. The Baltic offers outstanding period-correct aesthetics. The “weird” narrowing and tapering look at the end of the band that you do not like in the Baltic screams vintage diver. Catch some of the old 1960s diver-like shows and you will see what I mean. As far as anti-reflective coating on the Baltic’s crystal, well, diving watches used plexi for a long time. I sometimes think too much anti-reflection in modern divers is an unduly distracting fingerprint magnet. Note: The real modern improvement to underwater dial visibility is what Sinn does to 1 line of its watches by filling the watch with oil. Arguably, Sinn’s technique is the best anti-glare alternative on the market today. In my opinion, anti-reflection works best as one coat in the crystal’s interior under-girth, but not when also applied to the top portion of the crystal. That compromise works to meet period aesthetics.
    The Oris? Meh. Flatliner for me. Lots of other divers in that price range are better lookers, in my opinion. Oris has better divers than the choice included in the video.

  • @MrGeirSteinar
    @MrGeirSteinar 4 года назад +2

    Great video - very informative, thanks! The Oris looks amazing on your wrist, and I would’ve loved it if you included a lume shot of it (and the other two as well).

  • @cbody70
    @cbody70 3 года назад +4

    I enjoyed your well done comparison. While the Vostok design is unconventional it has advantages particularly when it comes to the design of the case back. The separate ring avoids any shear forces on the case gasket since the case back is pushed into the gasket rather than being turned into it like the other 2 watches. Vostok watches have been described as the AK47s of watches.

  • @arnaudmeert1527
    @arnaudmeert1527 4 года назад +8

    I bought a Bostok for the technical side tho, the movement is actually very interesting and high-tech for the time it was designed. It is incredible they can produce a mechanical movement at that price to this day.
    And the plexy is intentional on the Bostok, it becomes more water resistant the deeper you dive as the pressure pushes the plexy against the edges.
    Edit: Sellita aren't such good movements as you say, it is lower in quality, built more cheaply and uses even a cheaper design than the ETA's they clone. Look at some watchmaker reviews of the ETA vs Sellita

    • @jonathans2281
      @jonathans2281 4 года назад +3

      And the Vostok is meant to be maintained and serviced by the owner themselves. You can buy all the replacement movement parts easily. I'm a fan.

  • @jameshanley380
    @jameshanley380 3 года назад +1

    Another great review/comparison- thnks

  • @FirstDonkie
    @FirstDonkie 4 года назад +1

    This is a really nice video. Good to see these categories side by side. You paid no attention to the case, while I hear a lot of others praising case constructions. I often wondered what they were going on about. Not much it seems...
    Keep up the good work!

  • @heikowallauer
    @heikowallauer 4 года назад +2

    We called the Beetle "Buckelposche" for a reason back then.😉Nice trio of divers, very good presentation, great video. Have a great weekend!

  • @jerryglasses2229
    @jerryglasses2229 4 года назад +1

    Own a Tudor Ranger, Heuer Aqua Racer, Aplina Heritage Diver and a Seiko Cocktail time. Yet I often reach for my Timex Waterbury Rolex Explorer homage. They are all my children but the quirky one has a place in my heart.

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 4 года назад +1

    That is the nicest way to include bronze to a watch for that effect, nice riveted bracelet look too. I have a Vostok too, in the Ministry case and a turquoise dial, it needed some taming after braking in but it's now very good at 4-5 sec/day. But that rubber strap on the Baltic is a recreation of the Tropic Swiss straps from the 60's - 70's and the taper is traditional.

  • @TechnoLawyer
    @TechnoLawyer 4 года назад +2

    My random story about riding in a VW bug: in college, a buddy of mine had a quite nice condition one. I rode with him to the liquor store one time. When I got inside, I couldn't find the seat belt, and asked him where it was.
    His response was "This is a bug. If we crash we're dead anyway, a seatbelt won't help you."
    Yeah, he restored everything but the seat belts.

  • @914Rocky
    @914Rocky 3 года назад +2

    Great video. I really like all the watches. I just bought the Baltic. I almost bought a Tudor Black Bay but I think the Baltic compares favorably. That Oris is really beautiful though. The bezel on the Baltic is also sapphire. I also own a Vostok. And I love it. It’s a tank. It’s practically indestructible. And it’s so distinctive. And you can find one to fit any taste. There are a gazillion different versions.

  • @lucafwn
    @lucafwn 4 года назад +9

    I've just bought that same Vostok Amphibia. I love them, they are addictive - it's my fifth Vostok and my second Amphibia! One remark: they are not "vintage style" watches, they are original 1967 watches still made today with the same base design! As far as I know, they have just changed the crown and the "Made in Russia" writing on the dial. A bit like the VW Bug indeed: the last ones to be made in Mexico in the early 2000s were almost the same as the first 1945 production model, apart from slight details - with the feeling of driving a 1945 car (or a 1867 watch, in our case).
    On the other hand, it is well known that Vostok's default bracelets are quite crappy. Fun fact: Vostok makes some decent bracelets (a solid link one and a milanese mesh one), available from their official online shop meranom.com, but they are not offered in the standard configuration. They might as well sell just the watch head, as far as I am concerned.
    A last remark. If you get a good discount when buying an Oris, you can use the saved money to buy a Vostok or three, and have the best of both worlds! It's a good thing that there are so many choices in the watch world.

    • @khairulhelmihashim2510
      @khairulhelmihashim2510 4 года назад +2

      Apart from Rolex Submariner, Vostok Amphibia is the among the dive watches continuously in production with minimal changes in design and specification.

    • @MJFallout
      @MJFallout 4 года назад

      @@khairulhelmihashim2510 Well, of course all current Amphibias are automatics; it goes without saying that they weren't in the 1960s. So different, upgraded movements from what they were willing and able to produce in Soviet times.

  • @bronco1199
    @bronco1199 3 года назад +2

    I believe the Vostoc color is Teal

  • @other_brother_darryl4714
    @other_brother_darryl4714 4 года назад +1

    Awesome comparison. Really good work here. 👍

  • @CymInUA
    @CymInUA 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos, Tim. Always something 'a bit different'. Thanks.

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 4 года назад +2

    Really enjoy your videos , keep up the good work ✌️

  • @jonathanrobinson9208
    @jonathanrobinson9208 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting video Tim ! I especially liked the different interpretations of blues along with the secondary color choices gave each dail their own character !👌❤

    • @brianmason744
      @brianmason744 4 года назад

      Tim you're videos are dope...keep it up bro

    • @brianmason744
      @brianmason744 4 года назад

      Making anymore psychological analyzing videos on fellow watch channels?

  • @jamesblonde2271
    @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад +1

    Late comment from the Rennmaus guy, borrow is not a verb in the first person, you borrowed it, he lent or loaned you it......one understands it of course but it is inelegant demiotic similar to "are you joking me" no, I'm just joking....Excellent and informative as usual Herr Caseback.

  • @blwatches2260
    @blwatches2260 2 года назад +1

    Very nice review! I love the Baltic, hope to get one this year

  • @idid1866
    @idid1866 4 года назад +1

    Something about that bronze, blue...draws me in, like a bee to a beautiful flower!

  • @AbdulRWatches
    @AbdulRWatches 4 года назад +3

    Thanks, Tim for the great video, I really like the comparison through different price ranges. I had a Bostok diver, and it was a great watch until it broke down, I really like the Baltic, definitely a great micro brand. I think Oris is the best brand of the low range luxury right under Longines and above Tissot.

    • @jmount411
      @jmount411 4 года назад

      I like Oris divers more than the longines hydro conquest but longines makes a better chronograph for sure

  • @crabapple1974
    @crabapple1974 4 года назад +3

    I have some of the more premium vostoks; Amfibia Reef (without “ph”, amphibia are a different series from Vostok) and a Kommandirskie K-34. Love them. They look nicer than the cheaper ones. The quality is ok, I wear them because I enjoy them and they look different!

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад

      I've got three, looking at a Reef GMT next

  • @florianhess
    @florianhess 4 года назад +1

    Comparisons done right. Other so called watch influencers should learn from this.

  • @brianmsahin
    @brianmsahin 3 года назад +3

    The Vostok is definitely the most distinctive and probably the most attractive and most likely to attract attention and comment! The other two of course are better watches.

  • @hellsalite4444
    @hellsalite4444 4 года назад +3

    Love a Vostok, no other dive watch like it.

  • @raybentos3215
    @raybentos3215 4 года назад +2

    Toll video Tim.

  • @tobiasrottenbach1769
    @tobiasrottenbach1769 4 года назад +2

    Great video. Every watch has its charme. You can't go wrong with one of them. I would take the Baltic.

  • @neverknowinglyunders
    @neverknowinglyunders 4 года назад +4

    Why do I want all three? Please help, is there something wrong with me?...

  • @russellharris5072
    @russellharris5072 4 года назад +1

    I have an early nineties Vostok scuba dude,Brass case and bezel with a silver titanium nitride plating.Still going strong with no service since new.I agree with you Tim,The Baltic for me is the best looking and best value with hints of Blancpain in that bezel.....................

  • @dimatha7
    @dimatha7 4 года назад +4

    Bezel testing should be done underwater in the sea.
    Bezels that feel loose might have under water the correct stiffness and others that feel precise might feel too tight underwater

  • @lowersaxon
    @lowersaxon 4 года назад +1

    I have a Vostok diver, well, no. Its by far too big. What is Baltic? Where is this item from?

  • @jonathans2281
    @jonathans2281 4 года назад +1

    Admitted Vostok fan. Merenom is great for buying them. Also, with a bezel mod, or pilot bezel, and a new bracelet (cause the ones that come on them are not awesome) and you have a solid indestructible beater. With a pilot bezel, they make for the perfect field watch.

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад +2

      Modding is completely new to me, but maybe I should change that.

    • @JeeGee114
      @JeeGee114 4 года назад +1

      I've got my modded Scubadude from AM- watches in Dresden. But Meranom also has got some really nice special editions so you won't have to mod yourself.

  • @augustinf
    @augustinf 4 года назад +2

    Honestly.. the vostok shouldn’t be bought for more than 80€... 119€ is way more than What new ones are sold from russian sellers on eBay. Anyways.. now that it’s summer i realise why i have so many beater divers in my collection. What a joy to use them carefree at the pool and at the beach without fear of scratches. I do wear oris or steinhart from time to time.. but i wear a lot my seikos, vostok or chinese specials for swimming/underwater

  • @-----REDACTED-----
    @-----REDACTED----- 3 года назад +2

    The Oris and Baltic are stunningly beautiful. The Vostok is absolutely badass.
    On an actual critical dive I’d trust the Vostok most out of those three. But thankfully I will likely never do such a thing and can enjoy whatever watches I want without any restraint other than budget.

  • @frankschroth4038
    @frankschroth4038 4 года назад +1

    Those pip markers not being aligned with the twelve o'clock marker would make me go nuts!!! ;))

  • @chrisb5986
    @chrisb5986 4 года назад +3

    I have been debating a 40mm Oris Sixty Five...I really want one, but I think the retail price is too high with a Sellita SW200.

  • @sandorpalcso1142
    @sandorpalcso1142 4 года назад +3

    I like the Baltic, I liked that australian piece, Gin Clear as well couple of months ago, that was a pretty watch. It would be great to see a dive watch series, just like you did it with the field watches, those were great episodes.

  • @Agrippa31BC
    @Agrippa31BC 4 года назад +3

    The dial on the Vostok is a petroleum blue.

  • @paolosoddu9642
    @paolosoddu9642 3 года назад

    How about the bronze patina?
    Do you think the gaskets and bezel could be damaged by cleaning up the patina with lemon juice and things like that in a long time of ownership?

  • @davidcoleman2463
    @davidcoleman2463 4 года назад +1

    I do not have $10 000 for a Rolex so I got a Steinhart Ocean one 39 mm . ETA 2824-2 / sw200 . I'm so happy with it.

  • @BobMarley-pm1xb
    @BobMarley-pm1xb 3 года назад

    Superb vid as always Tim! Michael in Houston

  • @holgervoigt4315
    @holgervoigt4315 4 года назад +1

    Highly interesting comparison - and a good presentation. The Oris is rather expensive compared to other Divers of that kind i.e. Steinhart, Marc and son...the Baltic has the "stigma" of being from a comparatively unknown brand and some will perhaps not like the Miyota movement. As for the Vostok one should consider that this is not a retrowatch but a genuine vintage watch dating back to the sixties. Also it is a service watch with no intentions of fashion.

  • @Bungwirez
    @Bungwirez 4 года назад +2

    definitely the Bostok is a beater that takes some getting used to. Having gifted one to my friend, the bracelet is super huge - strong Russian seaman wrists only maybe?

    • @imsteevin
      @imsteevin 4 года назад

      the links are removable so it can be resized, see the arrows on the back.

  • @ilFreg
    @ilFreg 4 года назад +2

    Great video and comparison, thanks Tim.
    P.S. I would define it “petrol blue”

  • @niveusgaius
    @niveusgaius 4 года назад +1

    The Barton rubber strap has a fix for that.

  • @henrygalindo4479
    @henrygalindo4479 4 года назад +2

    Tim, great video but you forgot to mention that the Vostok has a two piece caseback system that uses water pressure for increased water resistance. In other words, the deeper you dive the better the water resistance of the caseback up until the weaker plexiglass breaks. It also exerts a vertical force on the large interior gasket instead of a horizontal force that screw down cases do which will stretch the gasket reducing its life. Western diver watch uses brute strength for water resistance. Vostok uses smart design. However, bracelet and bezel are crap. Most owners replace these with aftermarket pieces.

    • @elgatto3133
      @elgatto3133 3 года назад

      Vostok's caseback is the best designed caseback of any diving watch from an engineering standpoint, if not any watch period.

  • @bradmarcus26
    @bradmarcus26 4 месяца назад

    Just bought a baltic bronze blue acquascaphe. Hope it doesn't suck:)) UPDATE: I love it.

  • @MrMaxWinston
    @MrMaxWinston 4 года назад +1

    Greetings from the USA, hope you're doing well in Germany. I enjoyed this video, it's a fun comparison. I have a vostok amphibia as well, it was my first "real watch" I enjoy the history of it and how its special in that it's one of very few compressor cases and as previously mentioned has a clutch between the stem and the movement so if you smack the crown you don't break the movement. I would call the vostok turquoise (BLUE/green) more than aquamarine (GREEN/blue). I was hoping to stumble across one of your videos with you playing at the end, I'll find one eventually :) harmonica I believe, stay safe all.

    • @MrMaxWinston
      @MrMaxWinston 4 года назад +1

      Forgot to mention, my amphibia lasted 36/7 hour power reserve after being automatically wound from several days wear and set flat on the desk. I believe it gains something like 20/5 seconds a day, I haven't regulated it yet.

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching! The Vostok is a pretty cool watch. I was really surprised how much I like the look.
      Harmonica? :-D Never!

    • @MrMaxWinston
      @MrMaxWinston 4 года назад +1

      @@CasebackWatches I had to find it again. Jazzy guitar love the outros on the videos, nice to see more of them! Do you have any favorite horology books?

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 4 года назад +1

    The Baltic! Even with that strap, and you do need to lubricate the bezel mechanics, and with the Vostok too.

  • @quehorassao00
    @quehorassao00 4 года назад +1

    i like the Vostok movement and history,what i don't like is the design and the thickness of the watches,i bought the exactly same model as you have for this review ,i use it to learn to disassembly/assemble movements ,i would never worn such a thick watche

  • @ChrisBeckman
    @ChrisBeckman 4 года назад

    Baltic has been on my radar for some time... I really believe that the Aquascaphe (Aqua-scaff ) is the best looking vintage inspired watch under $1000.... and the case construction in the Vostok is really a technological marvel. They were the only ones that reengineered the dive watch in the past decades.... interesting history if you’ve not looked into it. 👍🏻
    Great comparison....

  • @rubbellos6249
    @rubbellos6249 4 года назад +2

    Würde im Leben keine 700 Tacken für ne Miyota-basierte Uhr auf den Tisch legen und das Band der Vostok hat deine Gnade eigentlich nicht verdient. Klar, die Uhr kostet "nichts", aber bei dieser Klapperschlange an Armband merkt man es auch. Niveau Kaugummiautomat. Meiner Vostok habe ich ein schwarzes Lederband spendiert.

  • @fishmeister2625
    @fishmeister2625 2 года назад +1

    Me: Doing my research on a dive watch
    Me also: Swims maybe once every couple of years and takes the watch off for when showering

  • @mailmeabhilash
    @mailmeabhilash 4 года назад +1

    Hey Tim, which variant of Vostok wouldn't get rusted? I got one which has bit of rust.

    • @Langermar
      @Langermar 4 года назад +2

      I've heard (don't know if it's true) only 2017 year (and 90s, obviously) had a quality issue, the rest should be good.
      Alternatively there is Komandirskie line (ordinary, not APZ) made of chromed brass and thus don't rust. And you also can abrade the chrome to create more interesting look. Though, water resistant is worse than of Amphibia - Komandirskie is a field watch, not a diver watch.

  • @williammiller8317
    @williammiller8317 4 года назад +1

    I like different things about all three of them, however I won’t be pulling the trigger on a new watch till next year when I’ve saved up enough money.

  • @davidjb3671
    @davidjb3671 4 года назад +1

    Tim - you asked if he could 'lend' you the watch. The owner lends an item and the person receiving borrows it. Sorry to correct your English since it's otherwise so good, but I thought you might appreciate it. Regards.

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад

      Yes, thanks, I make this flaw over and over again.

  • @davidcoleman2463
    @davidcoleman2463 4 года назад +1

    I would go for the Baltic . Better looking watch. Reminds me of a Tudor BB58 .

    • @914Rocky
      @914Rocky 3 года назад

      Just made that same observation. I was close to buying the BB58. But I went with the Baltic.

  • @chriscarbaugh3936
    @chriscarbaugh3936 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for that. I have been considering both the Baltic and the Oris 65 as I want a Diver. Additionally my first good watch was an Oris wind up and then i followed it with an Oris Frank Sinatra as my first automatic. ... mabye time to give Baltic a try? Wife just bought a Rolex :)

  • @daverooni7763
    @daverooni7763 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Tim 👍

  • @MrVitamincpp
    @MrVitamincpp 4 года назад +2

    the Baltic's movement is unidirectional and rotates freely in the other direction and that is what you hear :)

    • @trevbarlow9719
      @trevbarlow9719 3 года назад

      So it goes in one direction, but also goes in the other direction?

    • @MrVitamincpp
      @MrVitamincpp 3 года назад

      @@trevbarlow9719 In one direction it winds the watch, in the other it rotates freely and is pretty loud

  • @bronco1199
    @bronco1199 3 года назад +1

    And a watch in the 300$ or euro range would have been interesting. Great review though.

  • @GuyMrIncognito
    @GuyMrIncognito 4 года назад +3

    Great video, with two very neat watches. And the vostock. That one us just not for me. I don’t fancy the design.
    I own a baltic Aquascape and a two oris watches. Not (yet) the divers 65 but an Aquis and a older big crown chrono. So I can relate to your comparison between the baltic and the oris.
    But i really disagree about the bezel of the Baltic. Mine does not align perfectly with the minute markers. It‘s always half a click off. And compared to the Aquis the bezel has quite some play. In my opinion it cannot compete with the Aquis bezel. I assume here the Aquis and the divers 65 have similar build quality.
    My positives gor the Baltic:
    + size: just perfect for me
    + overall look and style: retro but not dated. A bit like the 50 fathoms
    + dial (i have the black / silver edition): i like the rough finish and the sandwich build
    + rubber strap: super comfortable
    + beads of rice bracelet: well made and interesting look
    My negatives:
    - bezel accuracy (play and alignment)
    - clasp of the bracelet feels very cheap
    - buckle of ruber strap looks a bit cheap as well
    - wobbly crown

    • @jamesblonde2271
      @jamesblonde2271 3 года назад

      Look for the tonneu cased 70's turquoise scuba dude....

  • @jeremyrice3719
    @jeremyrice3719 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting video.
    I have a favorable opinion of all three brands even if models aren’t the ones for me.

  • @MsJake199
    @MsJake199 4 года назад +2

    Its all about the BRRRR and the VRRROoom the ticktack and the click click :D

  • @KnifeWatch
    @KnifeWatch 4 года назад

    A fantastic comparison. Would have loved to see the Baltic beads of rice for a more fair comparison as their bracelet is awesome and has quick release

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад

      Yes, bracelet would have been nice, but my buddy wanted the rubber ...

  • @troynasello2085
    @troynasello2085 4 года назад

    Meranom.com has that vostok for like $70 or $80. They are the factory website for vostock. Hundreds of different models.

  • @timothythomas1626
    @timothythomas1626 4 года назад

    Vostok dial is close to Teal in color

  • @angelos6817
    @angelos6817 4 года назад +1

    I love my Vostoks! I have about 20 and they all have been modified by me to suit my taste. Before I work on them I always have 4 shots of Vodka to help with eye hand coordination and I do very well when lubricated with my favourite drink!

  • @alanwright3172
    @alanwright3172 4 года назад

    Vostok have upped their game recently check out the Amfibia Reef GMT diver, for example good old soviet engineering with a modern aesthetic

  • @kjd9634
    @kjd9634 4 года назад +1

    I like the baltic but prefer watches with a date function.

  • @troynasello2085
    @troynasello2085 4 года назад +2

    That vostok blue, in English, is either aquamarine or teal.

  • @andrewmain8022
    @andrewmain8022 4 года назад +1

    Tim your English is very good but I thought that this might help. You asked you friend if he would " lend you the watch" and when he had lent it, you would then be borrowing it. Keep up the videos as they are great entertainment. PS I can just about order a beer in German!!!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад

      Thanks for the advice!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! Since I've realised that my mistakes make people laugh in a good sense I'm pretty relaxed about that! :-D

    • @grahamcartwright5141
      @grahamcartwright5141 4 года назад +1

      @@CasebackWatches Tim, lots of Brits do the same mistake, believe me, it's more common than people like to admit, here in the UK. By the way, your command of English is far superior compared to most that actually live here. Keep up the great work.

  • @brynybach7741
    @brynybach7741 4 года назад +1

    I have all three of these watches in my collection. What you did not mention was that the Oris is only water resistant to 10 bar (100ft) while the other two cheaper watches are 20 bar (200ft) water resistant. The Bostok Amphibian also has a unique and clever caseback design. The wobbly crown is also of a unique and clever clutch design to avoid the watch mechanism from getting damaged should the crown get struck and yes if you buy one, just junk the bracelet as they are pretty well rubbish. l love all my five Vostok's as much as my Rolex Submariner date. I paid €500 for the Baltic when it was launched on Kickstart and it also came with a lovely beads of rice bracelet which I prefer on the watch. The bezel is also Saphire and has the best looking lume glow in the dark of all three watches here with the lume on the Bostok being pretty well rubbish as well. Of all these three brands though, I have a particular love of all things Oris, my favourite Swiss watch brand my favourite being a twenty year old Big Crown Pointer Date.
    As usual, an excellent video and a great comparison choice.

    • @jtee9548
      @jtee9548 4 года назад

      @@IDKline Sir 10 bar is 101.97 meters of H2O, usually rounded down to 100 meters. 1
      bar is just under 10.2 meters of water (mH2O)

    • @jtee9548
      @jtee9548 4 года назад

      Just a small correction, 10 bar = 101.97 meters of water. The Oris watch is claiming a little over 330 feet of water resistance. The other two watches are claiming double that. Since the only way I'm going more than 10 feet under water is if I'm dead, I'd be happy with any water resistance rating on a watch.

    • @brynybach7741
      @brynybach7741 4 года назад

      @@IDKline Your absolutely right, my error (after a bottle of wine and four G&Ts) 🤔🤐👍

  • @niveusgaius
    @niveusgaius 4 года назад +2

    Baltic should use a better movement than an 8000 series Miyota. At least use a 9000 series. Borealis does it for $500.

    • @darrenlee1480
      @darrenlee1480 4 года назад

      The movement Baltic uses is 9039. Isn't that the 9000 series?

  • @MaleGolfer
    @MaleGolfer 4 года назад

    Great video, Tim! I'm very interested in your thoughts re the difference between the noise levels of the Sellita rotor (bi-directional, I believe) and the Myota (uni-directional). Is it significant? Is the Myota more distracting than the Sellita? I really like the style of the Baltic, especially on the beads of rice bracelet, but haven't ever had the opportunity to examine a watch with a Myota movement. Thanks!

    • @CasebackWatches
      @CasebackWatches  4 года назад

      I was under the impression, that you feel the Myota more. In the Baltic it was quiet but with a heavy rotor. Felt exactly like the Valjoux 7550. I like that feeling in a way but the first day is always a bit strange.

    • @MaleGolfer
      @MaleGolfer 4 года назад +1

      @@CasebackWatches Thank you, Tim. That is very helpful!

  • @massimilianomarziano8731
    @massimilianomarziano8731 3 года назад

    Maybe someone wrote it....to change the date quickly, you go back to 8 and to 12 again, back and forth ;)

  • @renelesch6244
    @renelesch6244 4 года назад

    I am currenty looking for a new summer/light carry watch (so not a heavy diver): I would like something that i can wear on a straight endlink beads of rice or a mesh braclet. Vintage or modern... Budget: under 1000 €...
    So if someone knows a watch that would fit pls tell my, i my self consider a tissot visptade, or vintage seamaster

  • @baronbristow8764
    @baronbristow8764 3 года назад +1

    Baltic is very elegant. But the Vostok is the one you’ll remember

  • @M3LTUP
    @M3LTUP 3 года назад

    I like Oris. But it's a little too close to Orifice. And i do not want anyone to think im wearing an Orifice.