Bad boy downfall was allowing biggie to be in harms way forcing him to Cali instead of allowing him to go to London or stay back in NY like he wanted
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Biggie's early demise earned a mint for Diddy...He probably earned between a quarter to a half billion dollars off Biggies murder...hope he at least sent his mom a couple of dollars....Even the mafia takes care of the victims surviving family , after they have one of their own whacked, for whatever reason.
Most artists in the 90s was just glad to get a record deal and no one taught them about money and most of them sold their publishing for pennies on the dollar.
They should of knew better, had lawyers who were on their side review the contracts. But don't make this a generalization when yals Daddy Diddy did his own ppl this way.
@blackcherry6877 it wasn't the same in the 80s and 90s! This is common knowledge NOW but it wasn't then. These were kids from the hood trying to get rich.
Yes when u hungry u take anything and thats why must of the artists in the 90s had bad deals they didn’t look over nothing just signed and that how they got fuck
Mase was ignored when he went on his social media and on RUclips airing out this issue. Nobody was listening to him. The so called fans all said he should get over it. A lot of Puffy’s hits were written by Mase. I am glad Gene spoke on this. Puffy went on The Breakfast Club saying labeling Mase a con artist for being a fake pastor and etc. Mase was so angry folks just dismissed him 😢
@@toineroseborough6990thing is, Gene been airing this out for a good while now. It’s just interesting and folks think he’s just coming to light because it’s coming up in their searches now. Kinda like the Mase situation. Nobody paid this man no mind until now. He been telling folks what it is for ages.
Rest in peace to the legendary Mr. Lou Gossett Jr, one of the ones that paved the way for our people. We have to stop giving shine to these kind of people, and the ones that keep talking about them. How many more stories on him do we want to hear? Let's focus on some people that's made a positive difference in this world. This will go over a few heads, however that's okay the real ones know what I mean. ✊🏾
What’s crazy is how Mase came back around after all the drama.I was looking at a Diddy 2015 NYE party at Puffs crib and Mase was there dancing and chillin.
Lol. You gotta understand though, the Bad Boy Reunion tour was coming up around that time, Mase was probably being nice to Puff so he can get his tour money. But it don’t mean he was still brewing over the work he done for him, because after that tour, them two split for good after.
People saying “the artists should’ve known”, either didn’t come up in the 80’s and 90’s, or just don’t understand the art of manipulation and lack of resources. There was no internet, a lot of the artists back then were young and a lot of them had very little education. The CEO’s knew this and took advantage. Fast forward 30-40yrs. later, there’s mass information sharing to see the correct avenues, more educated people in urban environments, including artists. BIG difference….Artist back then were 100% INTENTIONALLY taken advantage of. EDIT: I see a few of you (primarily young folks born in different eras) don’t understand my comment. “Well others knew better, so should they have…”……Sure, some may have, but they were the anomaly, and also perhaps the lucky ones of the industries. What don’t you understand about intent from a conniver? An intentional lack of education by a corrupt American system towards the masses of urban black population (as well as other disenfranchised groups), poverty, and desperation? Dig deeper folks, and stop being willfully ignorant.
Yes. And when sending a demo tape to a record company could mean your music could be stolen all just because you wanted to get “on” for sake of this folks who where born after 2000 really shouldn’t comment on grown folks or sit back and take notes 🗒️. This is turning out to be way bigger I think any of us who watched and grew up watching this in real time could ever fathom. I now need lil Kim to come out and Mary J because I know they are aware of a lot.
@@trealnegus977 nah it’s the other way around and Big was getting ready to leave bad boy when he got killed cuz Big and Mase was about it stop fkn with him
This makes me think about the Math Hoffa interview with Lord Jamar. Math was telling the story about an MC wrote a verse on a collab with Diddy, and after he finished rhyming the verse?... Diddy told him "Good...Now go write YOUR verse." ...BRUH!!!
that mc was jadakiss. i heard em tell that story before. The OG version of mo money mo problems was mase, big, and jadakiss. and it was supposed to be on mase album, after big passed puff told mase he was gonna put it on big's album and take jadakiss off and put himself on instead.
@@BosschickSherion3 it's a saying that goes "don't bite the hand that's feeding u"...amazing wat people are afraid to loose (money, cars, big houses, women, access) when dignities and moralities are tested. That's wat selling out is.
No he didn’t! He died being cocky partying only a few blocks from DeathRow headquarters..having a couple nights before sniggered with his midget cousin on LA radio “free styling” lyrics he never had the heart or bravery to speak when Pac was alive.
@@en.4392 You never seen a picture of biggie smiling around P diddy , remember a dead man can’t talk. I believe this diddy shit is way deeper than one can imagine !
I believe Diddy took advantage of his artists but he didn’t steal anything. I used to work for ASCAP and every time I tried to educate rappers about songwriting royalties they brushed me off.
damn . . . I can't imagine a more thankless job: "check it out Lil P Dog Gansta Poo, if you get publishing right you might have a perpetual stream of revenue, publishing can be a sort of retirement vehicle" -- "Retirement vehicle?? I got my whip parked outside!!"
@@TrevyTheYellowistManthat’s been happening since music was created..black artist like the isleys are living and their royalties were stolen by white execs who are also still living..it’s the nature of the business when you are ignorant..or desperate to be signed
@KEISON2: I have to disagree with you on that. Diddy would include publishing in the standard artist contract. Faith said in her book Keep The Faith that when she signed her contract she automatically signed away half of her publishing and she didn’t discover this until she retained an entertainment attorney to review her contract. That’s why artists are upset with Diddy is because their publishing should’ve been seen separate.
@@willsalter8113 so she didn't get her own lawyer and just signed some paperwork, then found out when she got her own lawyer to review the paperwork she already signed
Fuck out of here with that bullshit….. yes, it’s the white man’s fault puffy is a cock smoking scumbag. Is definitely the white man’s fault that puffy screwed over his own people.
the music business takes advantage of EVERYBODY. But black music moves/affects EVERY culture on earth... with that said, Diddy has made his own bed; now he's got to lay in it.
It’s not just reading you need to fully understand. You gotta remember nowadays record companies have a bigger duty of care they advise you to seek legal advice before signing. You have to remember a lot of artists are dead broke and will sign anything just to get a foot in the door back then.
@@matthewvaneyk4713 crazy when i heard about that... that got swept so far under the rug!! Diddy must have done some major sexual favors to get out of that!
I will never understand how people think when someone owns a company and business. They are responsible for you negotiating yourself a great deal. I'm the owner. Im getting the best deal for me. There are lawyers you can hire, and past history and experience to learn from and avoid signing bad deals. There is no freindship in business, It's not Puffys' job to make sure Mase signs a good deal. Young or not, it's on Mase and his team to get proper representation before the contract is signed. Mase ain't been living in a cave. He knew and heard of the bad deals other artists signed before him, yet he still signed without proper representation. That's on Mase all day. Puffy might be guilty of the latest charges, but when it comes to business... business is business. You gonna learn the hard way by losing money. That contract will be in my favor as much as I can make it. You better spend that little money and get representation, or I got cha!! Cause the only thing free I'm going to give you is a lesson in how to negotiate 😂🤣
Basically you are saying that morals and principles as a person should not come into play? I’m not going to take credit for something I didn’t do. But based on your logic it’s perfectly fine just as long as you call it business. Tell that to the older generations of people that has been scammed out of their homes from government and other vultures. This world is a terrible place especially with people taking advantage of people.
@@besstmanagement3768 are you a "stop bullying" person or are you a "learn how to deal with bullys" person? That explains this situation. Now I agree with you if he trusted diddy to get him a good deal but diddy or any business owner doesnt really owe you shit if you dont ask for it ... I think a bigger question is who took the most risk? Sometimes talent alone doesnt make money, it requires other skills that some of these artists dont have... So its hard to say what the ratio is .. thats like saying I mow the grass so pay me the most as the worker... but the owner bought the mower and got the client... so who gets what?
The song was on the first Bad Boy soundtrack however Diddy also did a song for the second soundtrack with Nelly but it’s possible both were written for the first movie.
And that is all that anyone has to do with us. Give us something that we can use to go back to the hood to show off, and they get us every time. Most of us just want enough money, so we can feel like the big fish in a wine glass.
I remember when No Way Out came out in early 97, thinking "why does Puff sound just like Mase?" What Gene is saying is no surprise to me. Just listen to the man testify what he saw.
Gene that Movie came out in 2003, Mase left Bad Boy in 99. That song came on Diddy album In 2001 the Saga Continues. Black Rob Mark Curry and 3 others got writers credit on That song. You may have the wrong song.
Mase couldve wrote that in 99 and puff used it for his album in 2001 and lease the song for the movie 2 years later... If the movie came out in 2003 means they started filming maybe 2001/2002
what bad boy song is gene referring to that mase wrote? was it shake ya tailfeather with nelly and murphy lee? cause i know cardan was writing for nelly at those times as well.
I’m also wondering which song it is? The song “bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do” is Bad Boys by Inner Circle. As for shake ya tail feather, that was on Bad Boys 2, and that wasn’t till 2003, if that’s the song he’s referring to, but it definitely wasn’t feels so good, that wasn’t on any of the Bad Boy soundtracks
*update* Mase left Bad Boy initially in 99, came back in late 2004, but shake ya tailfeather came out summer 2003, so I dunno what song they’re talking about
A little bird told me Chris was making changes to publishing at Bad Boy including lyrics he wrote for Kim and then ... Chris spat on an LA radio station *you ain't nobody until somebody* and then ... Chris went to the awards show and got stopped at a flashing red light on his way to Steve Stoute's party. Diddy gifted publishing rights to Mase, Faith, 112, The Lox, and Biggie's estate in *September 2023* . Wonder why? 🤔🤔🤔
@@isurbrotherhot99 …. At work… every year around evaluation time…, we do an IDP ( individual development plan). Nowhere on the document does it reflect what your supervisors responsibility is regarding your INDIVIDUAL development plan. It’s all on you and up to you boo.
unfortunately you're right, but I think the hard feelings come in when Puffy (and Mercedes with TLC) say "we're family" constantly. The artist feel extra burned when they find out they're in a really dysfunctional family.
@@bluecrystalpalace … when you think about it, sometimes our own biological families are dysfunctional, so why would a “business family” … based on success, power, money, influence and sometimes… greed be any different
Back when there was no social media, artists learnt the business from others who are outside their label. Pac was putting big onto some game, Suge was putting Dre up to some game. In fact Suge was known as the artist savior as far as helping artists rectify their contracts and getting paid. He did the same for kci and JoJo, the doc etc
How can one "teach" an "other" what the "other" NEEDS to know? One can only TEACH what "one" knows! This guy is only as "informed" as he "THINKS" he is...(that) or a diversionary "tool," either way... he's NOT a reliable source!
One of the coldest things Puff did him, was leaving him stranded in LA after Biggie's murder. That is outside literally everything else he did him. The reality is that Mase could have been murdered cuz dudes was heated and that could have easily taken place if the wrong people spotted him
Funny people keep saying Gene should have told, but if Puff working with the three letter gangs, the prison industry and whoever Clive is backed by, tell me who Gene was suppose to run to.
Exactly 💯. People are mad that he’s talking but it’s people like him that are exposing the industry for what it really is. That era has run its course. Too many innocent lives sacrificed for nonsense.
Mark Mancina did the theme. Mase and Puff ain't listed nowhere. And if Puff was involved he not going for his name not being there. PLUS it came out in March of 95.... BEFORE Mase. This leads credence to the folks that say Gene be lying...I ain't saying that, but I'm just sayin.......
@@tysonallen6081why would he be talking about Bad Boys 2 when he clearly sung the song he was referencing, which was on the original movie soundtrack AND all the stuff he was talking about with how Puff took publishing was from when Mase first got in the game. Mase left for 5 years so if he came back writing and was still being done the same way then that was on him because he already knew the deal. I'm just saying the stuff don't match up, but y'all can believe what you want.
Everything he saying might be true, But Here we are AGAIN, pointing the finger at ONE MAN when the ALL These Record LABELS have this STRUCTURE., this MUSIC industry Robs EVERYONE...We dont Even Own HIPHOP. We have a different energy for our own but wont go after the real enemy, the ones that taught this behaviour. These people only got time for their own. Its a Bad Look, this back and fourth is the new way to west coast east coast beef, and we know who started that... The same people... Dame Dash will tell you, let MASE tell his own story. He keep saying Mase felt, mase got robbed, mase this mase that.... TALK ABOUT YOU.
So what it's a platform freedom of speech its interesting to hear these stories if u dont like it don't click mfs don't know what was goin on og older then all of them so let em drop the jewels u probably didn't know half of this shit before clicking the video it's informational
Who cares about what they own? these people are being exposed by the grace of God, to save you and to potentially save these false idol celebrities. Ya’ll keep talking about the irrelevant stuff and ya’ll can’t pick up the bigger picture. The point is, when God exposes not just the Black man or Black woman, he will also expose the White people in the industry. Nobody is exempt, these folks is high paid slaves no different from the past, and the present today. Massa will soon get caught, have patience it ain’t about race man, nobody cares about that when all of them going down black , white, pink or blue.
He's explaining what's referred to as a "work for hire" when you take that upfront money, your royalties are gone forever. Message to all the inspiring artist in here.!!!!
Mase did a Dave Chapelle….He clean walked away from millions and the media said they was crazy! Mase left puff and went to the Church and became a Pastor! They definitely did him dirty!
I always said there was a connection between Diddy and Will Smith and the Bad Boy Records/BadBoys movie 🤔 and it’s crazy they rushing and dropping Bad Boys 4 right around the time Diddy is being investigated 😅 maybe I will be proven right
All I wanna hear is the rat is locked up, and the key has been thrown away! But just like every other rat in Hollywood they get away with it. It’ll all be swept under the rug in a few months and nothing will come of it.
Man it feels so good to be me this morning, I ain't no billionaire but I am sleeping like a baby at night. Told your'll before not all money is good money. God 1st always, do no evil fear no evil
alot of people don't know but The OG version of mo money mo problems was mase, big, and jadakiss. and it was supposed to be on mase album, after big passed puff told mase he was gonna put it on big's album and take jadakiss off and put himself on instead.
Any coincidence that Katt Williams on Club Shay Shay mentioned that "when Diddy asks you to party you say no" so subtle (not really) for the FEDS to notice? The case was already in place but 100s of millions of views to CONFIRM what SO many people knew? Katt Williams interview effect
*Random rapper* puff I need to speak with you about my publishing *Diddy licking bar b que sauce off his fingers* "lemme crunch some numbers together and I'll get with you tomorrow" *Tomorrow comes never hears back from Diddy* 😂
This is a crying shame. I used to look up to Diddy back in the day as a creative and business person. Come to find out he's an unscrupulous businessman, in addition to his other heinous acts. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
@@CokinaClutch Exactly if you are too talented they would leave Puff. So puff sacrificed Biggie and became very rich bc of it. Puff even sent Shyne to jail to cover for him. He wants disposable people like Young Miami
The man was only 18/19 yrs old and knew nothing about the music business. 19 years in the 90s are not like today 19 yrs old. They didn’t have a business mindset like kids today
how much does an entertainment lawyer cost in 90's? Name an entertainment lawyer that you would trust in the 90's? Let me send you some yellow pages so you could get going on that cause there was no google.
Yet.......do you know what investigation means? He's being investigated, the fbi doesn't randomly raid multiple homes at the same time for reason genius 😂
I always tripped on that ppl actually liked the Diddler music, it always sounded unoriginal by itself so its no surprise he stole others rights like he stole his samples that basically sounded like the original song with a new chorus.
Seem like Diddy was hating on Mase cause Mase was a real Harlem cat he had everything the Harlem swag the look the waves the gift of gab the wordplay and he could rap well and had money he represented harlem fr. Diddy was born in Harlem but grew up in Mount Vernon so you can tell he idolizes the 80s era in Harlem but Mase is actually cut from that.
Mason and his entire family is and was born in Jacksonville FL. They fled to Harlem because his mom was leaving an abusive relationship with his father. They only had enough money to make it to Harlem when they were supposed to keep going North. If anything Mase is cut from Duval cloth.....at best with a Harlem influence.
How do you steal someone's publishing if they sign it to them before it's even worth anything. I'm pretty sure diddy takes all the risk at first and that's the biz.
Thats business! Its like me as a truck driver, i drive the truck, keep up with the maintenance of the truck.. My employer however has to pay for the fuel and repairs on the rig.. Ive seen the paperwork, for every hour im on duty they charge our customers about $140.00. That equals to $1400 for a ten hour day, in which I'll only see $250..🤦😢 LoL, thats business.. If you want to see that big paycheck before you get your paycheck start your own business and do your own thing.. Its as simple as that, dont sign those contracts for smaller amounts of cash then complain later, you agreed and signed up for what you agreed and signed up for..🤦
It’s crazy how many hits Mase had and how Diddy would make him write him a verse and hop on his tracks, and take his shine… and take all the credit and publishing! That’s why Mase left so broke from Bad Boy.
Bad boy downfall was allowing biggie to be in harms way forcing him to Cali instead of allowing him to go to London or stay back in NY like he wanted
Biggie's early demise earned a mint for Diddy...He probably earned between a quarter to a half billion dollars off Biggies murder...hope he at least sent his mom a couple of dollars....Even the mafia takes care of the victims surviving family , after they have one of their own whacked, for whatever reason.
No they had another 10 year run after that
Puff and Biggie stole and copy the flow from Notorious B1....2pac tried to tell Biggie dont fuck with Puff
Couldve been bigger if Big was still alive
🕺🎥 Diddy Dirty Money 💰🤑 had it made for him after that situation. Had the Long end of the Stick & became a Billionaire...
“If diddy wants to party, you gotta tell him no!!!” -Katt Williams 😂
😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😄😂😂😄😂😄😂😂😄😂😄😄😂😂😄😂😄 not just no but f ck no
Most artists in the 90s was just glad to get a record deal and no one taught them about money and most of them sold their publishing for pennies on the dollar.
This 👏👏👏
They should of knew better, had lawyers who were on their side review the contracts. But don't make this a generalization when yals Daddy Diddy did his own ppl this way.
@blackcherry6877 it wasn't the same in the 80s and 90s! This is common knowledge NOW but it wasn't then. These were kids from the hood trying to get rich.
Fame is hell of a drug 😂😢
Yes when u hungry u take anything and thats why must of the artists in the 90s had bad deals they didn’t look over nothing just signed and that how they got fuck
Mase was ignored when he went on his social media and on RUclips airing out this issue. Nobody was listening to him. The so called fans all said he should get over it. A lot of Puffy’s hits were written by Mase. I am glad Gene spoke on this. Puffy went on The Breakfast Club saying labeling Mase a con artist for being a fake pastor and etc. Mase was so angry folks just dismissed him 😢
Fr bro errbody talking down on Gene talm bout why he wait till now? The time is now
@@toineroseborough6990thing is, Gene been airing this out for a good while now. It’s just interesting and folks think he’s just coming to light because it’s coming up in their searches now.
Kinda like the Mase situation. Nobody paid this man no mind until now. He been telling folks what it is for ages.
Always turns out that way. I've said for years that Diddy wasn't right, something about him was sinister and shiesty.
@@toineroseborough6990No it isn't. he should have said something back in the 90s when all this allegedly is happening.
@@KJawn Let's wait for this case and see how things go. For all we know these all could be lies.
95 percent record labels do that.
that's the standard but he could do his deals different
That's why artists are going and/or staying independent...
@@mexia23no, that is not the standard.
And movies.... We.need to clean them up!!!
But we should be easy on puff because…he is a black man…but look what he does to…blank men…tell ya kids 🫵🏽 support…PEDOS😎
Diddy getting hit from all angles right now. No diddy‼️
Dutty soul dem 🔥🤬
From the front uh from the back ugh (diddy voice) no diddy no doubt
No Diddy lol 😂
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Angles or positions?
Mase imbodied BADBOY. That was his whole sound. Puff even mimicked Mase's flow.
Rest in peace to the legendary Mr. Lou Gossett Jr, one of the ones that paved the way for our people. We have to stop giving shine to these kind of people, and the ones that keep talking about them. How many more stories on him do we want to hear? Let's focus on some people that's made a positive difference in this world. This will go over a few heads, however that's okay the real ones know what I mean. ✊🏾
why are you listening then? you have an option to keep scrolling. smh
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A hit dog will holler congratulations for being the first idiot to comment like I said the rest of the people know what I mean ✊🏾
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I didn't listen for your information, all I have to do is see Gene and know he's telling the same stories.
@@wolfegill7519
A hit dog will Holler, the first example of what I'm talking about congratulations
Yeah writing checks to Cassie, 😮
I don't write rhymes I write checks.. - Diddy..
Hopefully he can cash all checks he writes💯🫡
Don't worry if I write rhymes,I write checks
Apparently he hasn't been writing checks either
He steal checks
Well, he needs to take that! Take that NOW! Bad boy for life, not!
What’s crazy is how Mase came back around after all the drama.I was looking at a Diddy 2015 NYE party at Puffs crib and Mase was there dancing and chillin.
😂😂😂
Lol. You gotta understand though, the Bad Boy Reunion tour was coming up around that time, Mase was probably being nice to Puff so he can get his tour money. But it don’t mean he was still brewing over the work he done for him, because after that tour, them two split for good after.
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People saying “the artists should’ve known”, either didn’t come up in the 80’s and 90’s, or just don’t understand the art of manipulation and lack of resources. There was no internet, a lot of the artists back then were young and a lot of them had very little education. The CEO’s knew this and took advantage. Fast forward 30-40yrs. later, there’s mass information sharing to see the correct avenues, more educated people in urban environments, including artists. BIG difference….Artist back then were 100% INTENTIONALLY taken advantage of.
EDIT: I see a few of you (primarily young folks born in different eras) don’t understand my comment. “Well others knew better, so should they have…”……Sure, some may have, but they were the anomaly, and also perhaps the lucky ones of the industries. What don’t you understand about intent from a conniver? An intentional lack of education by a corrupt American system towards the masses of urban black population (as well as other disenfranchised groups), poverty, and desperation? Dig deeper folks, and stop being willfully ignorant.
Yes. And when sending a demo tape to a record company could mean your music could be stolen all just because you wanted to get “on” for sake of this folks who where born after 2000 really shouldn’t comment on grown folks or sit back and take notes 🗒️. This is turning out to be way bigger I think any of us who watched and grew up watching this in real time could ever fathom. I now need lil Kim to come out and Mary J because I know they are aware of a lot.
Exactly!!!!
Rap was still in evolution and alot of these young artists especially from the hood didn’t have a clue. Times have changed now.
The hip hop industry was also very young and nobody knew the game. Easy Pickens
Exactly.. The age of the internet, such as social media, didn't really hit until 2007.
Without Big and Mase combs is a nobody
Fact remains we know of big and mase because of puff! 🤷🏾♂️
Whoa
Craig Mack
son
Never forget that
You do know he produced for Jodeci and Mary J bridge before them right?
@@Class_357 he had no fame when he did that he was still a nobody..then Big and Mase put him up with the stars.
@@trealnegus977 nah it’s the other way around and Big was getting ready to leave bad boy when he got killed cuz Big and Mase was about it stop fkn with him
This makes me think about the Math Hoffa interview with Lord Jamar. Math was telling the story about an MC wrote a verse on a collab with Diddy, and after he finished rhyming the verse?... Diddy told him "Good...Now go write YOUR verse." ...BRUH!!!
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that mc was jadakiss. i heard em tell that story before. The OG version of mo money mo problems was mase, big, and jadakiss. and it was supposed to be on mase album, after big passed puff told mase he was gonna put it on big's album and take jadakiss off and put himself on instead.
What and dudes went for that?
@@BosschickSherion3 it's a saying that goes "don't bite the hand that's feeding u"...amazing wat people are afraid to loose (money, cars, big houses, women, access) when dignities and moralities are tested. That's wat selling out is.
Biggie died for the information he knew. If only he could tell his side 😢
No he didn’t! He died being cocky partying only a few blocks from DeathRow headquarters..having a couple nights before sniggered with his midget cousin on LA radio “free styling” lyrics he never had the heart or bravery to speak when Pac was alive.
Wym
@@en.4392 You never seen a picture of biggie smiling around P diddy , remember a dead man can’t talk. I believe this diddy shit is way deeper than one can imagine !
How do u know😂😂
Biggie had a gay line and I didn't listen to him after he said he would suck on a girls "daddy" ( 🤔) d××k...
I believe Diddy took advantage of his artists but he didn’t steal anything. I used to work for ASCAP and every time I tried to educate rappers about songwriting royalties they brushed me off.
He used their ignorance of the industry against them. He grew up in the music business. So of course he swindled the artist who didn't know any better
damn . . . I can't imagine a more thankless job: "check it out Lil P Dog Gansta Poo, if you get publishing right you might have a perpetual stream of revenue, publishing can be a sort of retirement vehicle" -- "Retirement vehicle?? I got my whip parked outside!!"
@@TrevyTheYellowistManthat’s been happening since music was created..black artist like the isleys are living and their royalties were stolen by white execs who are also still living..it’s the nature of the business when you are ignorant..or desperate to be signed
@KEISON2: I have to disagree with you on that. Diddy would include publishing in the standard artist contract. Faith said in her book Keep The Faith that when she signed her contract she automatically signed away half of her publishing and she didn’t discover this until she retained an entertainment attorney to review her contract. That’s why artists are upset with Diddy is because their publishing should’ve been seen separate.
@@willsalter8113 so she didn't get her own lawyer and just signed some paperwork, then found out when she got her own lawyer to review the paperwork she already signed
That thumbnail of Mase and Diddy with their lips extra lubricated is looking mighty sus
💯😩😩😩😩🤣🤣
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Very luxurious looking😂
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I know right!! Mase looks “comfortable “ leaning up on Puffy.
But they signed. Only black ppl are called out when it's the white man's design.
Fuck out of here with that bullshit….. yes, it’s the white man’s fault puffy is a cock smoking scumbag. Is definitely the white man’s fault that puffy screwed over his own people.
Bs!! Diddy is responsible for all of his actions. Stop with the race card. He knows better and he didnt so better
Stop with that Shit!!! Gtfoh!! A real man will always do what he has to. And never be forced to !!
@@KO-im6smexactly bro!! Tell that simpleton
the music business takes advantage of EVERYBODY. But black music moves/affects EVERY culture on earth... with that said, Diddy has made his own bed; now he's got to lay in it.
YO GENE, YOU AIN'T NEVER GONNA WORK FOR BAD BOY AGAIN!!....can't stop,won't stop.
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Puff, How you go tell me how to do my job
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Won't be a bad boy.....soon
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Read contracts before you sign them
You think a 20 yo know how to read a contract written by a lawyer in 1997 stfu forever
Exactly. Walmart ain’t paying you owner type money just because you helped stock the shelves and clean the aisles
It’s not just reading you need to fully understand. You gotta remember nowadays record companies have a bigger duty of care they advise you to seek legal advice before signing. You have to remember a lot of artists are dead broke and will sign anything just to get a foot in the door back then.
They probably read contracts but didn't understand them' needed more info.
sometimes, they handled the business without any contract.
Diddy is now getting what he deserves
That's why Andre Harrell fired Diddy from Uptown Recs. ..he was going after artists publishings and catalogs.. remember Biggie?😮😮😮
Thats where Diddy got it from
Andre Harrell taught Diddy how to steal from artists, the reason why Diddy got fired from uptown record because of his arrogance and ego
And the nine people who were crushed to death at a charity basketball game he organized.
he stole biggies creation and passed it off like his own, the man is the music version of don king he ripped off boxers left right and center
@@matthewvaneyk4713 crazy when i heard about that... that got swept so far under the rug!! Diddy must have done some major sexual favors to get out of that!
Puff Be My Pal When I (HE HE HE HOW??)....Missy Said That In The Mid 90s....Im Just Say'n...
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@@nefertitimcmillan949 U Can't Make This Shit U...lol
I will never understand how people think when someone owns a company and business. They are responsible for you negotiating yourself a great deal. I'm the owner. Im getting the best deal for me. There are lawyers you can hire, and past history and experience to learn from and avoid signing bad deals. There is no freindship in business, It's not Puffys' job to make sure Mase signs a good deal. Young or not, it's on Mase and his team to get proper representation before the contract is signed. Mase ain't been living in a cave. He knew and heard of the bad deals other artists signed before him, yet he still signed without proper representation. That's on Mase all day. Puffy might be guilty of the latest charges, but when it comes to business... business is business. You gonna learn the hard way by losing money. That contract will be in my favor as much as I can make it. You better spend that little money and get representation, or I got cha!! Cause the only thing free I'm going to give you is a lesson in how to negotiate 😂🤣
Well said, pimp!
Basically you are saying that morals and principles as a person should not come into play? I’m not going to take credit for something I didn’t do. But based on your logic it’s perfectly fine just as long as you call it business. Tell that to the older generations of people that has been scammed out of their homes from government and other vultures. This world is a terrible place especially with people taking advantage of people.
@@besstmanagement3768 are you a "stop bullying" person or are you a "learn how to deal with bullys" person? That explains this situation. Now I agree with you if he trusted diddy to get him a good deal but diddy or any business owner doesnt really owe you shit if you dont ask for it ... I think a bigger question is who took the most risk? Sometimes talent alone doesnt make money, it requires other skills that some of these artists dont have... So its hard to say what the ratio is .. thats like saying I mow the grass so pay me the most as the worker... but the owner bought the mower and got the client... so who gets what?
Agree 💯
You can't do a person wrong than tell them how mad to get. Puffy knew he was going to get over on his artists one way or another.
Bro said Diddy saying "Take that take that" hit different these days. Artist getting fck ⏸️
Bad Boys first came out in 1995 and Bad Boys 2 came out in 2003. I don’t what gene is talking about, the time line don’t add up with Mase being there.
People sit on songs for years then release them at times or lease them to movies
Gene just talking as usual! The man literally wakes up everyday to talk down on puffy. He’s a bozo
@@Trbwonmase wasn’t signed in 95
The song was on the first Bad Boy soundtrack however Diddy also did a song for the second soundtrack with Nelly but it’s possible both were written for the first movie.
Mase could’ve wrote it pre-emptivly but didn’t get used til yrs later.
I can't lie puffy was the man back in the day. Crazy how fast things can change
he was never the man. shut up
Puffy was never the man
You sound stupid af smh
Puffy was never A man
He wasnt shit he was getting over and been getting over .. He took advantage of all his artist. He was the man stealing they shine..
Made signed to Puff for a car. Ain’t no complaints after that
And that is all that anyone has to do with us. Give us something that we can use to go back to the hood to show off, and they get us every time. Most of us just want enough money, so we can feel like the big fish in a wine glass.
a car aint worth 100 million homie. thats probably what mase made bad boy with his pen game alone. its at least 100 mill
What kind of car was it? Mercedes?
How do u know?
@@Cyko.. - A 92' Corolla
I remember when No Way Out came out in early 97, thinking "why does Puff sound just like Mase?" What Gene is saying is no surprise to me. Just listen to the man testify what he saw.
Gene that Movie came out in 2003, Mase left Bad Boy in 99. That song came on Diddy album In 2001 the Saga Continues. Black Rob Mark Curry and 3 others got writers credit on That song. You may have the wrong song.
Same thing I was saying 🤔
I think my guy might have a touch of Alzheimer's....Seemed like a 7 hour ramble fest for 30 seconds of information that doesn't even fit a timeline...
Mase couldve wrote that in 99 and puff used it for his album in 2001 and lease the song for the movie 2 years later...
If the movie came out in 2003 means they started filming maybe 2001/2002
@@Gramzzbaby Bad Boy 4 life was written by Curry Black Rob , and Maroc from The Hoodfellaz
Exactly
what bad boy song is gene referring to that mase wrote? was it shake ya tailfeather with nelly and murphy lee? cause i know cardan was writing for nelly at those times as well.
Feel so good
I’m also wondering which song it is? The song “bad boys bad boys, whatcha gonna do” is Bad Boys by Inner Circle. As for shake ya tail feather, that was on Bad Boys 2, and that wasn’t till 2003, if that’s the song he’s referring to, but it definitely wasn’t feels so good, that wasn’t on any of the Bad Boy soundtracks
*update* Mase left Bad Boy initially in 99, came back in late 2004, but shake ya tailfeather came out summer 2003, so I dunno what song they’re talking about
A little bird told me Chris was making changes to publishing at Bad Boy including lyrics he wrote for Kim and then ... Chris spat on an LA radio station *you ain't nobody until somebody* and then ... Chris went to the awards show and got stopped at a flashing red light on his way to Steve Stoute's party. Diddy gifted publishing rights to Mase, Faith, 112, The Lox, and Biggie's estate in *September 2023* . Wonder why?
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That's been public info already ...
Picture in thumbnail is wild!
I don't blame Diddy for not trusting these people. Look how they can't wait to sing.
Does that excuse robbing and cheating your colleagues
MASE was robbed of a lot of $$$
Take that . Take that ..
Whether you are in the music industry or fast food industry…. It is not up to the owner to teach you how to get ahead.
You're an idiot
@@isurbrotherhot99 …. At work… every year around evaluation time…, we do an IDP ( individual development plan). Nowhere on the document does it reflect what your supervisors responsibility is regarding your INDIVIDUAL development plan. It’s all on you and up to you boo.
unfortunately you're right, but I think the hard feelings come in when Puffy (and Mercedes with TLC) say "we're family" constantly. The artist feel extra burned when they find out they're in a really dysfunctional family.
@@bluecrystalpalace … when you think about it, sometimes our own biological families are dysfunctional, so why would a “business family” … based on success, power, money, influence and sometimes… greed be any different
Back when there was no social media, artists learnt the business from others who are outside their label. Pac was putting big onto some game, Suge was putting Dre up to some game. In fact Suge was known as the artist savior as far as helping artists rectify their contracts and getting paid. He did the same for kci and JoJo, the doc etc
How can one "teach" an "other" what the "other" NEEDS to know? One can only TEACH what "one" knows! This guy is only as "informed" as he "THINKS" he is...(that) or a diversionary "tool," either way... he's NOT a reliable source!
Just when you think Diddy was the worst; he gets worsa!! This dude has earned every bit of this epic fall.
One of the coldest things Puff did him, was leaving him stranded in LA after Biggie's murder. That is outside literally everything else he did him. The reality is that Mase could have been murdered cuz dudes was heated and that could have easily taken place if the wrong people spotted him
I have a feeling that gene is gonna go down to because he knew all of this and didn’t say nothing
He should,I’m sure he was involved in some of it.
He gone talk his ass right up in that room with Puff💯
He aint going down. He's telling his experience working for him. Most people just put it in a book.
Gene was his former body guard.... he's been saying this about diddy forever lol
FYM? This man been talking about this for YEEEAAARS!! Most of y’all weirdos just called him a hater and said he was only doing it to get paid
DIDN'T THEY ALL CLAIM TO BE HUSTLERS. BLAME YOURSELF
He was hella young bruh.
Diddy was digging his back out!
Mase never claimed to be a hustler mf
Funny people keep saying Gene should have told, but if Puff working with the three letter gangs, the prison industry and whoever Clive is backed by, tell me who Gene was suppose to run to.
Exactly!
Then why talk now
So true!
@@Ivanblock757 He been talkin 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly 💯. People are mad that he’s talking but it’s people like him that are exposing the industry for what it really is. That era has run its course. Too many innocent lives sacrificed for nonsense.
Mark Mancina did the theme. Mase and Puff ain't listed nowhere. And if Puff was involved he not going for his name not being there. PLUS it came out in March of 95.... BEFORE Mase. This leads credence to the folks that say Gene be lying...I ain't saying that, but I'm just sayin.......
I think he’s talking about bad boys 2
Bad Boys 2 hombre. Mase was behind the scenes writing for artists at that time before he came out with Welcome back
He talking about Bad Boys 2
Yall so quick to call people who were present liars while you search on the web
@@tysonallen6081why would he be talking about Bad Boys 2 when he clearly sung the song he was referencing, which was on the original movie soundtrack AND all the stuff he was talking about with how Puff took publishing was from when Mase first got in the game. Mase left for 5 years so if he came back writing and was still being done the same way then that was on him because he already knew the deal. I'm just saying the stuff don't match up, but y'all can believe what you want.
Gene wtf??? U mean to tell me mase wrote the theme song to cops??? Cmon man yall just saying shit at this point
He’s probably referring to puffs verse
I think he talking Mase-Feel So Good the hook says badboy in it Gene misconstrue that song with the movie. The song is in the movie is what he meant
BB2 movie
@@clutchk5240feels so good isn’t on any bad boy movie lol
No.....u not I don't think u get it
Everything he saying might be true, But Here we are AGAIN, pointing the finger at ONE MAN when the ALL These Record LABELS have this STRUCTURE., this MUSIC industry Robs EVERYONE...We dont Even Own HIPHOP.
We have a different energy for our own but wont go after the real enemy, the ones that taught this behaviour. These people only got time for their own. Its a Bad Look, this back and fourth is the new way to west coast east coast beef, and we know who started that... The same people...
Dame Dash will tell you, let MASE tell his own story. He keep saying Mase felt, mase got robbed, mase this mase that.... TALK ABOUT YOU.
@EveryDayRich
Well said !!! Accountability!!
So what it's a platform freedom of speech its interesting to hear these stories if u dont like it don't click mfs don't know what was goin on og older then all of them so let em drop the jewels u probably didn't know half of this shit before clicking the video it's informational
None of these people are victim's they were grown knew what was up
Who cares about what they own? these people are being exposed by the grace of God, to save you and to potentially save these false idol celebrities. Ya’ll keep talking about the irrelevant stuff and ya’ll can’t pick up the bigger picture. The point is, when God exposes not just the Black man or Black woman, he will also expose the White people in the industry. Nobody is exempt, these folks is high paid slaves no different from the past, and the present today. Massa will soon get caught, have patience it ain’t about race man, nobody cares about that when all of them going down black , white, pink or blue.
Shit but it be our own doing this too idc about yo race wrong is wrong…u cool with our ppl doing us wrong
A damn shame. God sees everything. Mase is gonna get everything back that was stolen from him.
He's explaining what's referred to as a "work for hire" when you take that upfront money, your royalties are gone forever. Message to all the inspiring artist in here.!!!!
Mase did a Dave Chapelle….He clean walked away from millions and the media said they was crazy! Mase left puff and went to the Church and became a Pastor! They definitely did him dirty!
Mase and diddy took some zesty photos
Pretty thumbnail....Neither were stingy with the lip gloss.
100%! Matching clothing too❤
You cats are over doing it, everything is "zssty" with you sonnys...
@@ILoveTheAllCreator Defend your king
@@karamyasharahla510 You have low iq response, try harder ✌️
These security guards need to get checked.
That "take this, take that"...takes me out err'time😂😂😂. Gene a fool mane🤣🤣
I'm so fkn tired of Gene . He sat by, indulged. Now he can't STFU
Go cry somewhere else
I believe every word💯📌
U have any merch
I always said there was a connection between Diddy and Will Smith and the Bad Boy Records/BadBoys movie 🤔 and it’s crazy they rushing and dropping Bad Boys 4 right around the time Diddy is being investigated 😅 maybe I will be proven right
All I wanna hear is the rat is locked up, and the key has been thrown away!
But just like every other rat in Hollywood they get away with it. It’ll all be swept under the rug in a few months and nothing will come of it.
Man it feels so good to be me this morning, I ain't no billionaire but I am sleeping like a baby at night. Told your'll before not all money is good money. God 1st always, do no evil fear no evil
🎵 "Many inhabitants of this world be striving & struggling; trying to eat food and keep the rights to they publishing" 🎵
Mase didn't write no song for the Bad Boys soundtrack for Puff
That's what I was thinking. He already quit rap by then
He be lying ....straight up
Song could’ve been in the studio vault puffy used it
We know for sure puff didn't write it
I think he meant You know you make me feel so good, Bad Boy!
alot of people don't know but The OG version of mo money mo problems was mase, big, and jadakiss. and it was supposed to be on mase album, after big passed puff told mase he was gonna put it on big's album and take jadakiss off and put himself on instead.
Any coincidence that Katt Williams on Club Shay Shay mentioned that "when Diddy asks you to party you say no" so subtle (not really) for the FEDS to notice? The case was already in place but 100s of millions of views to CONFIRM what SO many people knew? Katt Williams interview effect
Puffy didn’t like anyone he couldn’t control. Like a true sociopathic narcissist
DO YOU TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES DIDDY??? DAMN
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Right
Why are you so mad? DAMN
Gene will still be talking about Diddy in the year 2050
He mad because he still broke but this diddy stories are interesting
Year 2024………it doesn’t matter how long it’s been, the truth will definitely come out
Art I see you mentioned under point 175 & 176 of the lil rod lawsuit..re interviewing Gene👍
Gene the good uncle everyone needs
That's a lie new edition been saying you have to know the business for years tlc said it
then again, who betrayed TLC?
learn before you speak.
“That’s all we do.. Eh eh.. Bad Bad Bad Bad Boys I wouldn’t change you if I couuuuuld…” -Murdah Mase
God Bless
Mase look like one of his lovers on that picture !!!
*Random rapper* puff I need to speak with you about my publishing
*Diddy licking bar b que sauce off his fingers* "lemme crunch some numbers together and I'll get with you tomorrow"
*Tomorrow comes never hears back from Diddy* 😂
This is a crying shame. I used to look up to Diddy back in the day as a creative and business person. Come to find out he's an unscrupulous businessman, in addition to his other heinous acts. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
When 50 Cents documentary comes out I am sure Diddy may need to file for bankruptcy.
50 will after his bm takes him to court
50 doesn't care about anyone involved. he's just mad puff is blowing 50's baby momma back out
I’m glad Mase got out when he did
out? he found a new scam.
Puffy didn't want talented people like Biggie and Ma$e around him.
But yet had them around him
@@DM-sj4vu😂
he didnt want people he couldnt control.
talented + smart
@@CokinaClutch Exactly if you are too talented they would leave Puff. So puff sacrificed Biggie and became very rich bc of it. Puff even sent Shyne to jail to cover for him. He wants disposable people like Young Miami
What Mase track from Bad Boys is he talking about?
What song is he referring to that Mase wrote for the first bad boys song?
This video is 7 minutes, but this man with CTE said 1 minute worth of info.
I remember when 112 came on Angie Martinez show and said Diddy had there publishing
Thats a dam shame hope he gets all he gave out.
Ask Gene about that home video of the night Big got shot, when puff tells him to get in and they tear out.
Art you da best thing smoking on the internet with these interviews
Mase messed up not getting a lawyer to help him
Mase was bottom of the barrel broke... in 96...19 from the hood ...don't know shhyyyt
True @@ebonix33
The man was only 18/19 yrs old and knew nothing about the music business. 19 years in the 90s are not like today 19 yrs old. They didn’t have a business mindset like kids today
how much does an entertainment lawyer cost in 90's? Name an entertainment lawyer that you would trust in the 90's? Let me send you some yellow pages so you could get going on that cause there was no google.
Puff Outsmarted mase.
Sean Combs is getting everything he deserves
Anybody else confused about him singing Inner Circle's Bad Boys? The Bad Boys song by Mase and Puff was on the Money Talks soundtrack.
It's bullshit, Diddy was never charged with anything...
Yet.......do you know what investigation means? He's being investigated, the fbi doesn't randomly raid multiple homes at the same time for reason genius 😂
@@Forever.Remain.Nameless investigation can also mean they don't have a case ....
@@ericmiddleton8137 you INVESTIGATE in order to bring charges, are you stupid or dumb?
This is why you don’t sign no contracts whatsoever.
I always tripped on that ppl actually liked the Diddler music, it always sounded unoriginal by itself so its no surprise he stole others rights like he stole his samples that basically sounded like the original song with a new chorus.
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Seem like Diddy was hating on Mase cause Mase was a real Harlem cat he had everything the Harlem swag the look the waves the gift of gab the wordplay and he could rap well and had money he represented harlem fr. Diddy was born in Harlem but grew up in Mount Vernon so you can tell he idolizes the 80s era in Harlem but Mase is actually cut from that.
Diddy was always a fraud and con artist.
Mason and his entire family is and was born in Jacksonville FL. They fled to Harlem because his mom was leaving an abusive relationship with his father. They only had enough money to make it to Harlem when they were supposed to keep going North. If anything Mase is cut from Duval cloth.....at best with a Harlem influence.
@@Nisha_Nykelle Facts!
@@Nisha_Nykellewow I didn’t know that
@@Nisha_Nykellebruh mase moved to harlem at 3 years old wtf are u talkin about he been there since before kindergarten stop it 😂😂
As we proceed to give u wat u need…bad boy is gone done 🥹
Keith Murray said he needs Puff to give him his Publishing back because, he needs to feed his kids.
Ma$e should be upset with his manager and Lawyers
How do you steal someone's publishing if they sign it to them before it's even worth anything. I'm pretty sure diddy takes all the risk at first and that's the biz.
Thats business! Its like me as a truck driver, i drive the truck, keep up with the maintenance of the truck..
My employer however has to pay for the fuel and repairs on the rig..
Ive seen the paperwork, for every hour im on duty they charge our customers about $140.00.
That equals to $1400 for a ten hour day, in which I'll only see $250..🤦😢
LoL, thats business..
If you want to see that big paycheck before you get your paycheck start your own business and do your own thing..
Its as simple as that, dont sign those contracts for smaller amounts of cash then complain later, you agreed and signed up for what you agreed and signed up for..🤦
It’s crazy how many hits Mase had and how Diddy would make him write him a verse and hop on his tracks, and take his shine… and take all the credit and publishing! That’s why Mase left so broke from Bad Boy.
Mase left in 99 with a multi million dollar advance that he kept
Diddy was Manipulating everyone in the industry! He’s a Narcissist. Diddy was mad because Mase exposed him.
And this is why he's going through what he's currently going through, he's getting his just desserts.
Very much I mean he wasn’t a real friend so why should anyone be one to him.
@@leewuo4443 Exactly
not mad at Diddy. Mase did Puff dirty first leaving while under contract because of street beef and became a pastor