GAROU and METAL BAT got BUFFED AGAIN in The Strongest Battlegrounds
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metal bat has just gotten a massive nerf
Thank God, I still main it and the Savage tornado can be an easy bait into Death Blow.
Overall 9/10 update, Still waiting for the monsters update btw.
Yea I saw it in their discord. They finally nerfed one of the most annoying characters in the game.
YES
m1 once then quickly dodge to push
IM SO GLAD YOU'RE SPEAKING UP ABT METAL BAT
ive been preaching it every day istg, the savage tornado is WAY to op, and its like you said is what ive been saying
Savage Tornado - - - > Strength Difference
and you basically won, cause they're forced to ragdoll cancel to avoid the Strength Difference taking 90% of their HP, but when they ragdoll cancel you can just use the counter, knock them down, and then burtal beatdown
the best thing you can do is ragdoll cancel and try and hit them before they can use the counter and that MIGHT save you, but if you fumble AT ALL then chances are you're gonna be dead now
And if they dont active your counter then knock them down, brutal beatdown, they dont have ragdoll cancel, and then they're dead, and by the time thats over they still have savage tornado and strength difference so they can do the same thing to another victim after the first one gets sent to hell
Issues with metal bat (from my point of view):
-foul ball being unblockable while working as one of metal bat's base best extenders.
-grand slam being jet dive 2.0 (unblockable, shorter windup, combo extender/starter)
-beatdown sometimes bypassing block.
-his passive in ranked its rigged, doesnt matter whanever u do ur opponent its going to get ult and use it. And sounds funny knowing how metal bat's ult is.
-savage tornado not only having extremely low cd, but also having almost no windup and not giving u the chance of cancelling it, the only thing that is going to happen if u try to cancel it, its that ur gonna get the full dmg of savage tornado.
-strength difference having almost the same dmg as final hunt but no being a single-use move.
-death blow variant having almost the same range as garou's ult anim while also dealing more dmg than it.
They need to change death blow
"savage tornado having almost no windup"
me: *gets savage tornado cancelled
@@This-didnt-make-us-friends Imagine doing Savage tornado infront on the Opponent bruh
Strenght difference is ok since it can be blockable but the damage on block should be nerfed.
And Beatdown only bypasses block if done from behind.
Other than that I agree on everything.
@@Godoudama sorry for being bad af 😢
While Metal Bat deserves a nerf, the buff to his 4th move is and probably will be effective against people who love to block spam his moves, but the character that should be buffed is Garou because of how dirty they did him, sure his ult was op but they didn't need to remove the I-Frames on his first and fourth move, although it is effective because it removes the chance of you being stuck in the barrage while being in the same ult as the opponent, point being is give the start up of Garous first move I-Frames, because people cancel it before you get the chance to use it
I agree, the i-frames on the first move was the only reason you could fight back other ppl(when they used ult) efficiently, now Garou can do nothing against other ult users if they have at least 2 braincells.
Block spam is literally the only way you were able to actually fight against Metal Bat pro's as a person who knows how to play yourself
Now it's not even safe to block against him😭
@@aziatouchsilent8507 Maybe if you paid attention to certain characters and read your opponents, you'd have no problem fighting metal bat, try using Garou or Atomic Samurai, play counter-attacker
@@DestinedSpace_YT Is that supposed to be making fun of me
I have no problem reading my opponents, I'm not that bad at the game
It's just that pro players that know how to play defensively is to hard to be counter attacked
So we can’t use block now 💀 Niggas be stupid as hell
Finally someone who actually noticed that Garou got buffed
For metal bat ult savage tornado, the cooldown is better to start when the move it's done and not when it's used, that gives least 2 savage tornados for sure instead 3 time uses.
Not me watching this at 23 : 40 because im bored and cant sleep, btw awesome work as usual holy grail.
6:36 "the generation ender" HAHAHAHHA I CANT PLEASE STOP MEE HAHAHAHHAHAHA-
the metal bat is the most on and dishonest , so it has 2 counter movements that almost immediately kills , plus that if the counter movement does not work , there will be another blow that can interfere
That’s crazy
i like your vids when you use your voice
6:44 I also have the same habit and for some reason my brain keeps making me press F
u can cancel savage tornado and brutal beat down at the start so stay cose to a meteo bat if they have ult so u can cancel it
Even though this literally has nothing to do with the video, but i wish they made an update that fixes kill stealing where when someone gets killed the system checks all the people that dealt damage to that person and whoever dealt the highest amount of damage gets the kill
I totally agree with savage tornado, it needs to get a nerf! Metal bat is way too op due to that one move (and strength difference) and I think that they should delay the cooldown time.
Blud edited it and is actong like he predicted it
Tip: if they use grand slam you can also use grandslam and get them into ur combo
6:09 Bro got the best excuse ever made up
as a metal bat user that nerf a few months ago really affected my playstyle i had to move characters to garou because of the debuff
metal bat things and good things(good then bad)
first good:all metal bat moves have variants(except beatdown) wich is good for combo extender/when missing the move you do a variant wich deals like 70% of the move damage
2:metal bat gains ult by being hit as well wich is good for noobs who always get beaten so they can active thier ult faster
3:most of metal bat moves are unblockable wich is good for people who like to keep thier hands on the f button
4:savage tornado having big range so you can catch players who like to run/cancel players moves
5:savage tornado makes a free open for using strength difference
6:if you missed strength difference it will have the same cooldown as savage tornado so you can use it again
7:all metal bat moves(except grand slam and normal foul ball)have s wich is good for teamers unlike other characters like saitama that can get hit during moves
8:grand slam can be a free combo starter if you know its range and its variant also have a good damage and makes u m1 the player 8 times instead of 4(thats without adding you can loop dash them after m1ing them after the grand slam variant)
now for the bad things:
1:metal bat having the slowest m1s in the game wich gives players more time to heal and get thier ragdoll cancel back(if used) and also makes combos longer wich increases the chance of them getting thier ragdoll cancel back in middle of the combo
2:metal bat normal moves having low damage wich make you have to full combo a player 3 times for them to die unlike other characters that need 2 or even 1 combo to die
3:brutal beatdown when used players have 2 seconds to combo u wich is bad if you dont have death blow cause you are just giving them free combo
4:metal bat death blow is 1 time use and strength difference if hit you cant use it anymore during ult or can use it if you used strenght difference at the very start of your ult wich makes u only available with savage tornado and brutal beatdown
5:even tho savage tornado have a big range its damage isnt even good its just a combo starter that you can use to extend with stength difference or brutal beatdown
6:since metal bat m1s are already slow if u just the m1s a little bit slower you can get countered wich is very bad cause m1s are the main things in the combos
yes thats all i have if you have other thing to say in replys say it
Yes that is true about the savage tornado but, when your in the air you can side dash out of it causing you to not take any damage from the fall
First time heard wellworkss voice and not robot voice.
I think we should make the foul ball like flowing water it breaks block but knocks you far back so you can’t combo extend
This is kind of what happened to sonic where explosive shuriken used to be able to be blocked
This thing that garou 4 ult move is now has always finisher animation is amazing
I like the part when he gets hit from the guy and then complains about how his fps when down for a nano second at time 6.08
I think metal bat before update was on the edge of being unbalanced and balanced but after update it more like unbalanced
Wellworks da goat
you can interrupt the tornado in first second or so , the user has no real way of seeing where u land unless they look up which can disorient them , its sometimes hard to aim strength difference
2nd move can also be interrupted but for longer period of time than tornado
tho ye tornado should get around or at least 1.5x cooldown of current
The window to interrupt the Savage tornado is very small and may I remind you can cancel Savage Tornado and Brutal beatdown start into Death Blow which is a instant death
@@mastrsonic375 eh not rlly , if you have good reaction time and they arent to far away u can interrupt it easly
so just , hit them once , not twice ? whats so hard in that?
Metal bat has literally a unstoppable combo while in ultimate.
Savage tornado to Brutal beat down to Strength difference for a instant kill. If they evasive out of brutal beat down, they cant do anything in the air so you're able to use brutal beatdown without any interruption.
"What if they ragdoll cancel out of brutal beatdown instead?"
While after the long animation of brutal beatdown, you're able to use savage tornado RIGHT AFTER IT. In which you use savage tornado into Death blow's slam into strength difference for a instant kill.
Garou got a true 1 shot combo with no final hunt now
Good for them, metal bat kinda needed that for an upper hand.
As a metal bat main the only reason i see why the devs made it like this is cause all his base cooldowns are higher than the rest of the charaters like think about the cooldown time for garou and samurai on their counters(which are extenders.) And when your in ranked all the people you ever see is (garou) and the easiest way to beat metal bat(back when his kit was new) players would simply back up and let the metal bat pursue them then counter which metal bat really only has one reliable chase move (no the rock throw is one of the easiest things in the game to dodge)
But i do agree the the 3 on metal bats ult is to amped but also has a small hit box so only one real way to hit it cause rag dolling a enemy isnt ling enough to ensure the hit
Also Garou ult animation is NO MORE bypass by omni directional punch
tbh i think if they revert the foul ball change and make grand slam blockable like jet dive, he might be ok idk
You actually CAN escape savage tornado, you just need Genos lol, just air camp
As someone who has used metal bat I can agree savage tornado needs a cooldown nerf, as for garou I really don't care since I never use him
Metal bats ult is so op you know final hunt for garuo ult dose like 60 percent damage and you can’t use it again we have strength difference that dose more and it has a short cooldown not just that it has a move that can one shot aka death blow and there is only like 2 moves I know that can bypass which is final hunt and Omni also savage tornado is ez to hit which can combo into strength difference dealing massive damage
i mean if u attack it before it gets s like brutal beatdown it cancels the move but its almost impossible to do that for savage tornado
Suggestion, Allow Metal bat's deathblow be countered by deathcounter
[there is actually a concept video of that which is why i like it. And i still believe death counter > Death blow]
Players: how much hixbot u want for metal bat?
Dev: Yes
Fun fact if somebody misses home run and they try to come at you there is a high chance you can hit them and no more dashing now
Savage tornado is kinda nerfed well not really but you can dash out of it
yeah but death blow is 1 time use, and if u directly hit strength difference u cant use again so
Honestly I like this Buff because most of metal bat's moves are easy to dodge and starting a combo with melee is harder because metal bat has the slowest melee speed in the game however, this is also going to be extremely annoying to fight against.
Metal needed a nurf on ult ngl
Metal bat's base moveset is aight, but it's passive along with how good its ult is, it's not alright.
I feel u
The reaction time in 8:05 is simply wild💀💀💀
Brutal beatdown is insane with Xbox/PS 4/5 bc of the auto lock, literally all metal bat ultimates attacks with auto lock is op as hell 💀
b4 rock splitting got i frames the first half wouldnt be blue unless they hit a player
I personally think you should escape be able to escape foul ball grab after being hit.
The only annoying thing in tsbg is atomic samurai,srsly its like the new sonic and i cant choose him BECAUSE I DONT HAVE EARLY ACCESS
They should add all the s back to all the moves for garou ultimate like for crushed rock the dash can't be cancelled when you are moving
They should increase savage tornado animation start-up. It would help people with reacting better.
one thing about metal bat is that homeruns hitbox is literally bigger than the bat itself. (reserch)
Im not gonna lie you were getting screwed over in that fight
LOL the generation ender
The generation ender indeed
Idk if anyone noticed but they buffed downslam, they made it so you don’t have to wait for the to get up to use it while they ragdolled
No you could do it when they are ragdolled before by aiming for the head or torso
Or maybe the hitbox increased..
@@joel784 no, if you tried to do a downslam right after they were ragdoll it didn’t work because you would have to wait for a few seconds then do it
@@Astroduck44 It worked for me?
Tbh I feel like they should make preys peril work on fourfold flash strike because it would honestly make Garou more fair against sonic and brutal beat down should be cancellable by m1s or certain moves
Not cancellable but blockable
it already works you can counter fourfold flash strike
@@phloxJPEGAlready is blockable
@@pizza5013You clearly dont play the game
@@Zee-u3j i do play the game and i remember using counter on fourfold flash strike
Here something I want to say some people aren't probably gonna care about this.But there's music like a whole theme song on the strongest battlegrounds not like ult music or something. It happens when u join a private server and don't attack the dummy it's very rare for it to happen bc people always attack the dummy and like no one knows about this unless yourself is reading this try this out maybe to listen to the music it's very beautiful.
I now this combo when metal bat came out💀
I was watching this for one reason to see what was the buffs but the VOICE I'm wondering if i should be a Hero hunter main or A Bald hero main?
Also savage tornado gets a 0.5x damage boost with each person in it meaning if every player can n the server is caught there’s a 7x damage boost so you can strength difference after and one shot fully, they messed up with this move.
Omg savage tornado is so op I can’t believe it can 1 shot with strength difference when everyone in the server is caught in it😢
Are u a time traveler
Issues for me :
The range from homerun grand slam AND Beatdown have like 100 times the hitbox
The low cooldowns (cd)
The spammers that say "ez"
Literally everything plus ult
death blow one shotting continuing to give mode while saitamas death counter doesnt, seems reasonable on a character with the best ult moveset in the game.
I was like tf? When someone kept going through my blocks with foul ball
Finaly, no tts, I CAN SUB NOW
They could make savage tornado countarable like we saw in the anime garou counter it
I swear I'm a god at dodging but savage tornado just the hit box is too bug j cant eventually sometimes when u get hit by savage tornado u can ragdol cancel the part when it flings u then he just uses brutal beat down dude I need the front and side dashes to not get hut by the brutal beat down I can't escape it
Garou has the move that can literally counter death blow, final hunt so it makes him MUCH STRONGER if you time it right
garou's ult still sucks against other ults
@@user-nm9zq9gi8b garou's ult isnt great but it counters most ultimates due to final hunt
@@randomjared8394true, its always been my favourite ult move from garou
@@Kaijuchainsaw63 i wont lie the garou ult is boring ash compared to the others because of the 1st and 3rd move those 2 need to be reworked bro the 1st and 3rd moves are more similar to base moves than ults.
@@jralpalesmole69982 is already good dude like why need 1 and 2 (3 needs to be) to be changed??
the savage tornado should be diverted with the danger of garou prey like in the anime
This video noice
I suggest that they nerf the cooldown as well as start the cooldown when savage tornado actually ends and not when its being used
They should undo the foul ball buff and also make grand slam blockable like jet dive (it's really annoying)
its very easy to counter idk what u talkin about
@@campeoncito88Ping has made it impossible for me to escape ground slam, I’m like 5 studs away from the Aoe and it’s still hit
In defence of jet dive, jet dive has a way bigger hitbox and grand slam has a smaller hitbox.
Grandslam is so easy to counter. just dash to the side and your out of it.
U can block jet dive?
I predicted the foul ball buff, my friend was over and I told him: I have a feeling foul ball won’t be blockable, I will predict this. And now what 🙂
The metal bat ult ain't no bad if you know what to do
Like I met tons of pros who didn't hit me a single time with the ult you just need to know how to dodge it
most of the characters are broken and/or have glitches that make doing combos impossible. There are so many glitches and power scaling is pretty bad since there are so many true combos + too many i frames
Ey friend uh can we do ult battle again
The only issue i have is atomic samurai's charge move. It isnt blockable and is similar to beatdown and cant ragdoll cancel. It even has a backup slice if you miss or enemy dodged well.
What charge move?
if they miss pinpoint cut's stomp, you can block the second attack, but you sadly cant block the air ability.
The only thing I think metal bat should be nerfed in is the s that he has on his awakening moves. I think savage tornado should be nerfed only because of his unreactable windup for the and the best possible way to nerf this is for it to have a longer windup because its travels such a large distance. Brutal Beatdown is alright with its given s but the run part of the move should have its invincibility disabled so it can be easier to stop it, Strength difference has to be nerfed cuz its a slow run move and people should be allowed to stop that.
after using strength if you missed the move it gonna have the same cooldown as savage tornado but if you actually hit the move it gonna have the same cooldown as the old final hunt cooldown(yes final hunt had a cooldown before but it got changed to the cooldown get off when the ult end this was a thing also with incinerate)
I swear if metal bat doesn't get a very good nerf soon I will KYS , we had the same problem with sonic now metal bat
They need to nurf metal death blow varient so death counter can beat it cause there's no way a weapon can beat a technice
its fun to slam people with the crushed rock thing
Am I the only one who noticed the trees were literally dancing?
I guess they love metal bat and garou
0:17 im probably incredibly stupid but what was the specific nerf
I'm pretty sure Genos needs a nerf too, but why buff METAL BAT???
Why the actual hell did the devs think it would be ok to buff metal bat?
Fun fact timing it right you can hit someone who is doing grand slam with grand slam
Bro wining is perfect
0:09 ayo
overpowered metal bat ult battlegrounds
Bro brutal beat down can be stoped
Still dont understand why people think crushed rock was buffed, you cant even confirm 4 into 2, they can evasive out of it
If you get thrown up in the sky by Savage tornado you can dash out of it
80% of garous ult plus base moveset are Iframes only moves that are not Iframes are water steam rock smahing fist
And crushed rock
Plus Crushed rock can Iframe move if get shot
They both have no I-frames at the start so that’s a way but I’m savage tornadoes has less no I-frames but it’s still there so it can still be stoped
tbh metal bats base moveset was very punishable if missed
his ult deserves its strength
but yea savage tornado should get just less aoe
bro sonics side dashes in ult needs a nerf u cant hit them bc they keep spam dash
You need an editor my man?