I mean yeah you get your items faster but as you can see illaoi doesnt really get huge value out of 6 items, I would say it's a pretty meme rune unless you are up against a comp that you think is really going to end the game quickly, then you're better off rushing items with first strike rather than stacking 10 grasps and the game is over.
Really liked this one, his camera control was a bit weird throughout the game, I was so glad to hear at the end that he's aware of this weakness of his and will work on fixing it. Not using smartcast really slows his engages and plays down as well, if he fixes these and a few other macro-related issues he should be able to get to Master, seems patient enough and willing to learn.
Camera control is some basic stuff though. Not having that fixed after 12 years seems to be some motoric limitation. It will be tough to get it straight after so many years.
@@Silentout I disagree. If you just fully fixate yourself on it for a period of time (2 weeks / a month) it should be easily fixable by just trying to get as much relevant information on your screen at once and then looking at your POV replays at the end of each session and try to be really hyper-critical on how it's placed. Camera control is mostly habitual so after doing that for a couple of weeks you should be way better than you were before, even when you begin to focus on the rest of the game again.
i dont know about camera but to me his mechanics are terrible, like he just stands still trying to "wiggle" while eating so much dmg and doing nothing to fight back and even when he fights there is so much down time where he doesnt Q or AA is just hurting me
@@mariyanpetrov2328 yes this. he doesn't q or use w off cooldown. he probably couldve killed some of times he got ganged on. like it feels so slow. many fights late/mid game he doesnt press q for 30 seconds.
You can probably ask a legit ex-eSport coach that is coaching in LEC or NA right now, probably way cheaper. Neace is probably way overpriced for those kinda things
these higher elo coachings are more interesting to watch compared to watching someone learn basic controls but maybe that's just me I know the lower elo videos help a lot of people
You want him to play aggressively, but you don't know how Illaoi should be played in High Elo. DirtyMobs gets Challenger every year by playing safe until level 3. He regularly beats TF Blade and other huge names like Revenge, Adrian Riven, and GeneralSniper by playing passively and according to Illaoi's power spikes. "Use grasp, bro!" and then he gets chunked huge by the Fiora that chases him back to tower
Conquerors and goredrinker are best options for illaoi - conquerors gives you dmg for all your moves, not just w and autos + healing from tentacles and autos. Gore just adds to the healing from tentacles and autos with its omnivamp. By comparison, running grasp and trinity or sunderer means you're only getting healing from w and autos - missing out on the free healing from tentacles
She's very easy to abuse early on. And with extremely long cooldowns. Late game if she doesn't go trinity force and high tenacity she just gets kited to death.
I have a bad habit unless I play kled before level 3. After that I use mouse. I play the game slow and I know that. I played dozens of games trying to break it. But when I try to react quickly I smash 123 buttons or hit the wrong skill ability. I just fat finger all the time so its better for me to keep the rat poison away from the flour.
Great coaching. I would have done a few things differently. Double down the splitpush and just 1v5. exec should have been purchased soon with items as DS and frozen heart then other items. Fighting objectives when team is behind I found is coinflipping unless illaoi is nested. From experience. Overall great coaching and exactly what I would have done. most of the game. Made me wish I can play more then 0-2 games a week.
I fink maybe there is a reason why illaoi and yorick haven't been on LCS or any of the major championship series it's always gnar gangplank fiora etc etc. :( 😞
Who cares, Illaoi is the ultimate raidboss champ in SoloQ 😄 It’s fun as hell specially if you go a bit more tanky. She has that giga Unga Bunga feel, Morde and Darius also come close
I think he could have won with a tankier build. Tri Force just makes Illaoi too squishy to really be effective in late game fights. Goredrinker, Death's Dance, Maw is the way to go. Tons of vamp and sustain, and even more after the Maw shield procs.
@@libertybelllocks7476 HP doesn't help mitigate damage. And still there is a lack of sustain. The only thing he has is DD which only gives sustain if he gets kills.
One thing I noticed is that this guy hardly Q's in between W's. He just W autos and then walks around until W is back up. 26:03 Could've won this fight or at least gotten kindred if he Q'd
Seems to me like he picked this champ recently and isn't used to her kit yet. This would explain why he can't hold E, why he's not going for little opportunities to land some damage, why he panics when fight breaks out. Typical playstyle of a goofer who picked new champ, got bit lucky, got fed, and now doesn't know how to utilize the advantage. 22:07 gets surprised, doesnt realise he's against ekko and kindred, "panic-E's" and misses a target who's on his face. It would be much harder for them to dodge that E when they are on your face. I seriously doubt kindred would react on time if he aimed at closer target. Also, he could actually just walk it out, let them fall into his lap, not just stand and try to kill them. He doesn't feel the limits, the flow of his champ. 16:28 this is the moment that changed the flow of the game. That missed E decides that fight is lost, hands down 650g to ekko and a lvl up, later that guy would get hold of the game. That's a turning point I believe. This is the most decisive E of this game, the one missed spell that lost it for the whole team.
Just so I can understand why executioners over thorn here? I feel like thorn would give more value due to people like fiora and kindred needing to already auto attack
What you mean. Illaoi missed so many panic E's and dies after R. Her E's give a free slam with tons of damage and sustain. Its vary important to land E. I don't know if you're be sarcastic or calling her bs because she was lucky to get a kill after failing combos and yet thay killed her.
@@TheRevivist same. My go to vs illaoi is yorick or wukong. Play wukong right you can W her E and it can vanish before her R lands and also cancel her W with your R. Yorick its either I kill her or we don't fight. Early game even when illaoi e ult ill just walk away and sit back as she beats my clone knowing she can't kill it with 1-2 tents and then just kill her after. If she plays bad I won game.
The Fiora was also pretty bad, she didn't dodge anything early game, wasn't pushing Illaoi in any way even when she had a slight advantage.. I'm a little lower, Plat 1, but I never face a Fiora that just facetanks all abilities like that. Also I was surprised by the dmg Illaoi was outputting without hitting E with her Q and W only being lvl 1 up until level 9. Felt like her lvl 1 Q at lvl 9 did more damage than maxed out Morde Q at lvl 9 (not isolated obviously).
Fkn kha at the end ran from top side near death to bot side jg to push bot instead of resetting. If he did reset, the game would've gone differently. He went back into the end team fight with no mana but full hp..
holy fuck illaoi is so busted that a gold 1 player gets dia 3 only watched this 8mins I can tell its just passiv scaling of illaoi and not wasting it to much
AHA!!! This is not the same game as in the lobby! Kha was baned before! :P ow yeah.. and btw. Neace.... ich srsly like your Content! :D Kinda learned a few things just by watching your Videos.. Thx for that! :D Just unlucky that ive not enough money to book a coaching from you... guess ive to save some until ive enough.. :D
I think I've played against this student, Ive been hovering between diamond ranks usually d2 trying to get masters but I feel more jaded with my mentality, I can tell because of the jglr name, personally am not a fan of them
yes because even at this skill levels the fundamentals are fully developed as you would think and things get missed in favor of other things like champ micro and truthfully just lack of knowledge. Neace says this in his streams from the past. Not sure if that weighs the same as the game is always changing.
lol it's not that easy to hit diamond in general because if it was there would be more than 2% of the playerbase in it. Yeah his mechanics aren't great but he knows his champion, has good game sense & good farm...which is something gold players profoundly lack.
This item build is terrible. hull rush then frostborn and then blackcleaver. then resist/armour. This build is too squishy and they kited him like easy. No lock on with slow. Just get oneshot everytime after 30 minutes
This dudes name is crush me illaoi 💀
He knows what he wants
@@NEACE he knows what we all want
Death by snu snu
😂
@@NEACE 💀
Day 1 of convincing Neace he is a teemo one trick
Day 1 of saying no
@@NEACE it ended as fast as it began
@@benwhittle9238 If he said yes, it wouldn't be 'convincing'.
Lmao
mf want to gaslight neace into making him a teemo main 💀
first strike works on illaoi because e doesnt proc the rune then u can do full rotation with spirit dmg and get huge amount of gold
First strike flash ult sounds nuts
I’ll have to try that now. I usually run Conquer because I’m terrible at using Grasp
It is very good I’ve gotten over 3k gold In stomps from the rune. Grasp is still the best on her rn
I mean yeah you get your items faster but as you can see illaoi doesnt really get huge value out of 6 items, I would say it's a pretty meme rune unless you are up against a comp that you think is really going to end the game quickly, then you're better off rushing items with first strike rather than stacking 10 grasps and the game is over.
@@SkritchB I think illaoi can take a few different rune set ups. First strike is good because you can use futures market and have item at like 8-9 min
Neace has always had one of the best mindsets in the game, like I don't tilt much anymore. Thank you Neace!
the way he says idgaf on moments that dont really matter is what sold me to just not give a shit whenever its out of my control or
@@sillyme2598 ⁰
word these videos have helped me control my mental dramatically
Really liked this one, his camera control was a bit weird throughout the game, I was so glad to hear at the end that he's aware of this weakness of his and will work on fixing it. Not using smartcast really slows his engages and plays down as well, if he fixes these and a few other macro-related issues he should be able to get to Master, seems patient enough and willing to learn.
Camera control is some basic stuff though. Not having that fixed after 12 years seems to be some motoric limitation. It will be tough to get it straight after so many years.
@@Silentout I disagree. If you just fully fixate yourself on it for a period of time (2 weeks / a month) it should be easily fixable by just trying to get as much relevant information on your screen at once and then looking at your POV replays at the end of each session and try to be really hyper-critical on how it's placed.
Camera control is mostly habitual so after doing that for a couple of weeks you should be way better than you were before, even when you begin to focus on the rest of the game again.
i dont know about camera but to me his mechanics are terrible, like he just stands still trying to "wiggle" while eating so much dmg and doing nothing to fight back and even when he fights there is so much down time where he doesnt Q or AA is just hurting me
@@mariyanpetrov2328 yes this. he doesn't q or use w off cooldown. he probably couldve killed some of times he got ganged on. like it feels so slow. many fights late/mid game he doesnt press q for 30 seconds.
Hey neace I was wondering if you would ever do team coaching? For high school eSports teams
Also sounds like a good idea for content. I've never seen this before
as a college eSports coach, and for League of Legends in particular, I'd also be interested in this haha.
I remember he said he’s coached high school teams before
You can probably ask a legit ex-eSport coach that is coaching in LEC or NA right now, probably way cheaper. Neace is probably way overpriced for those kinda things
Wouls be nice, but soloQ = a diff sport than 5v5
Neace sounds fully healthy again so glad to hear!!
22:22
Pretty sure they had no crazy vision. Kindred just got extremely greedy fishing for her mark and hoping nobody was there to stop her.
these higher elo coachings are more interesting to watch compared to watching someone learn basic controls but maybe that's just me I know the lower elo videos help a lot of people
Ironically, this video shows high elo clicking to level spells
Highly prefer watching higher elo coaching. Much more to learn. Watching garens get taught the basic fundamentals gets old really quick.
Watching Garen gets bored in general really quickly
Fr I’m not trynna watch another “auto auto auto e” compilation lol
this was one of my favorite coaching vids, keep up the good work neace!
Good to see another one of all 5 of us illaoi mains.
5 likes 5 illaoi mains makes sense
Dirtymobs squad checking in
Dirtymobs the illaoi legend. She's my 1 trick as well. Tried so many other champs but illaoi just feels good
match history episode 1: usefulness of the toplane.
0/4/0 - win
11/5/1 - lose
You want him to play aggressively, but you don't know how Illaoi should be played in High Elo. DirtyMobs gets Challenger every year by playing safe until level 3. He regularly beats TF Blade and other huge names like Revenge, Adrian Riven, and GeneralSniper by playing passively and according to Illaoi's power spikes.
"Use grasp, bro!" and then he gets chunked huge by the Fiora that chases him back to tower
This is diamond, not grandmaster/challenger
6:22 "what the dog doing??" i almost choke to death here
Conquerors and goredrinker are best options for illaoi - conquerors gives you dmg for all your moves, not just w and autos + healing from tentacles and autos. Gore just adds to the healing from tentacles and autos with its omnivamp.
By comparison, running grasp and trinity or sunderer means you're only getting healing from w and autos - missing out on the free healing from tentacles
As an illaoi main the happiness this brings me is immeasurable
I liked the part where ekko was talking about illaoi being a dumb champ
Ηey NEACE greetings from Greece, thank you for the free and most importantly educational videos and content !
Hi from greece too great content
That R Flash was hilarious
illaoi is low key strong right now.
It’s not low key bruh Illaoi is broken I think lol. Always ban her. Always.
She's very easy to abuse early on. And with extremely long cooldowns. Late game if she doesn't go trinity force and high tenacity she just gets kited to death.
I'd constantly forget that guy was high elo every time he'd wait for a fight to end to manually level up a skill with his mouse, like bruh
I’ve always wondered how people level with the mouse when I first started playing I didn’t even like doing it
I have a bad habit unless I play kled before level 3. After that I use mouse. I play the game slow and I know that.
I played dozens of games trying to break it. But when I try to react quickly I smash 123 buttons or hit the wrong skill ability. I just fat finger all the time so its better for me to keep the rat poison away from the flour.
@@fingerflavored2262 there’s a setting that lets you disable it I think
Illaoi can crush me any day. Nice coaching, learned a lot 🔥
You can also use W to proc demolish for higher damage to turret
He basically never uses W as auto reset.
Man I wish I could be as chill playing league as this dude lol
Always learn something from every neace vid
27:30 The Pac Man beat 💣🔥
McBaze doesnt like Illoi b/c she is a knowledge check. If your enemy knows to play around the soul grab, she is a useless champ
He doesnt like illoai? Thats one of his champs that he plays lmao
but there are times where the soul grab is undodgeable/you lose every cannon if you dodge it
Hope you had a good independence day NEACE. God bless you and thank you for your service brother.
Great coaching. I would have done a few things differently. Double down the splitpush and just 1v5. exec should have been purchased soon with items as DS and frozen heart then other items. Fighting objectives when team is behind I found is coinflipping unless illaoi is nested. From experience. Overall great coaching and exactly what I would have done. most of the game. Made me wish I can play more then 0-2 games a week.
I fink maybe there is a reason why illaoi and yorick haven't been on LCS or any of the major championship series it's always gnar gangplank fiora etc etc. :( 😞
Who cares, Illaoi is the ultimate raidboss champ in SoloQ 😄 It’s fun as hell specially if you go a bit more tanky. She has that giga Unga Bunga feel, Morde and Darius also come close
@@rsmith8113 unless enemy pikcs trynda
That Ashe at 14:20 lol
The main takeaway from this game - ban yuumi
Yuumi and Akali main bans
What was so wrong w/ the R flash play at 13:00 ? I don't get what the problem was.
Personally I would’ve gone maw last item to help with ekko burst plus the vamp proc is kinda nice
We miss you neacer
I think he could have won with a tankier build. Tri Force just makes Illaoi too squishy to really be effective in late game fights.
Goredrinker, Death's Dance, Maw is the way to go. Tons of vamp and sustain, and even more after the Maw shield procs.
he had 4k hp. how much more tanky does he need to be? lmao
@@libertybelllocks7476 HP doesn't help mitigate damage. And still there is a lack of sustain. The only thing he has is DD which only gives sustain if he gets kills.
Another great vid! Good job! Love it
Greatful for king of macro , professor N3ACE ty
neace, you should try AD thresh top off meta, I feel like it is a good pick into some comps and is pretty cool overall.
haha
@@controlward5514 not a troll pick
Make a build and I'll post it in reddit if you want?
@@Kira-zo5ob Search up AD Thresh top
Hey Neace , how can we get a coaching session?
14:15 WOAH Toxic Ash
just started league 2 days ago and i main her is the gasp w ?
Illaoi zowie.
Split push chicken play was so good
One thing I noticed is that this guy hardly Q's in between W's. He just W autos and then walks around until W is back up.
26:03 Could've won this fight or at least gotten kindred if he Q'd
I wish nothing but the worst on this Ashe player
The thumbnails are getting stranger.
Love the thumbnail :D
did anyone said that NEACE looks like green goblin from spider man?
Seems to me like he picked this champ recently and isn't used to her kit yet. This would explain why he can't hold E, why he's not going for little opportunities to land some damage, why he panics when fight breaks out. Typical playstyle of a goofer who picked new champ, got bit lucky, got fed, and now doesn't know how to utilize the advantage. 22:07 gets surprised, doesnt realise he's against ekko and kindred, "panic-E's" and misses a target who's on his face. It would be much harder for them to dodge that E when they are on your face. I seriously doubt kindred would react on time if he aimed at closer target. Also, he could actually just walk it out, let them fall into his lap, not just stand and try to kill them. He doesn't feel the limits, the flow of his champ. 16:28 this is the moment that changed the flow of the game. That missed E decides that fight is lost, hands down 650g to ekko and a lvl up, later that guy would get hold of the game. That's a turning point I believe. This is the most decisive E of this game, the one missed spell that lost it for the whole team.
Sa af, I have so so many soft and lodies in my head and I have absolutely no clue how to put them into soft or any way to make
The leveling with the mouse hurts on this one.
Just so I can understand why executioners over thorn here? I feel like thorn would give more value due to people like fiora and kindred needing to already auto attack
This ashe is going off in team chat....
Ayo neace too sus buddy too sus💀
I thought illaoi was never viable. As soon as she ults, you just dash or flash away.
What you mean. Illaoi missed so many panic E's and dies after R. Her E's give a free slam with tons of damage and sustain. Its vary important to land E. I don't know if you're be sarcastic or calling her bs because she was lucky to get a kill after failing combos and yet thay killed her.
@@fingerflavored2262 not talking about this game in particular. I just meant in my experience
@@fingerflavored2262 I see a lot of illaoi one tricks with like 300,000+ points and I always shit on them lmao
@@TheRevivist same. My go to vs illaoi is yorick or wukong. Play wukong right you can W her E and it can vanish before her R lands and also cancel her W with your R. Yorick its either I kill her or we don't fight. Early game even when illaoi e ult ill just walk away and sit back as she beats my clone knowing she can't kill it with 1-2 tents and then just kill her after. If she plays bad I won game.
anyone know the song at 20:00?
Neace what is that thumbnail
It's like cleptomancy lol first strike has the same idea basically
we will forever miss the soothing voice of sick neace ;((
Feel like this video was made for me I'm an illaoi main currently at D1 trying to reach masters xD
Any illaoi players have thoughts on ravenous hydra second or third item?
Too squishy. Was good preseason 11 but damage in the game is too much and the omnivamp it gives is nothing useful.
I don't like how much me an this thumbnail have in common.
This guy is now D2 atm, he's still trying.
Guys either boosted or nervous af he's missing basic fundamentals that you should have to hit plat let alone d3
The Fiora was also pretty bad, she didn't dodge anything early game, wasn't pushing Illaoi in any way even when she had a slight advantage.. I'm a little lower, Plat 1, but I never face a Fiora that just facetanks all abilities like that. Also I was surprised by the dmg Illaoi was outputting without hitting E with her Q and W only being lvl 1 up until level 9. Felt like her lvl 1 Q at lvl 9 did more damage than maxed out Morde Q at lvl 9 (not isolated obviously).
at 15:27 im gonna have to disagree with neace. That illaoi would run fiora over regardless. No need for kennen at all.
smacking some games with illaoi in gold my friend thx for the video
Fkn kha at the end ran from top side near death to bot side jg to push bot instead of resetting. If he did reset, the game would've gone differently. He went back into the end team fight with no mana but full hp..
I’ve got a question… is it possible I’m not climbing because I’m only playing and focussing on one champ..? If so, call me stupid.
People are climbing playing one champ. It's your luck of knowledge on macro/micro.
5:05 me who only lvls uses mouse ;-;
Oh fuck I know this kid lol
7:53 im tilted AF, srlsy 2 points not used, dude WTF?? Diamond 3 and he lvls up like iron 6. Dude…..
and yet he's still higher elo than u LOL
Fell asleep twice
kinda ridiculous this teemo one trick knows so much about league
Vs fiora and also an yummi and no anti heal xD
Curious on the keyboard clickity clacks like nothing was happening but all I hear is keyboard spamming Lolol great coaching though!
needs to work on his E alot but gg
I lol with my mouse. But, I only play jg.
holy fuck illaoi is so busted that a gold 1 player gets dia 3 only watched this 8mins I can tell its just passiv scaling of illaoi and not wasting it to much
LS Lawsuit Soon (belveths name) is a LoL script platform hahaha
AHA!!! This is not the same game as in the lobby! Kha was baned before! :P
ow yeah.. and btw. Neace.... ich srsly like your Content! :D Kinda learned a few things just by watching your Videos.. Thx for that! :D
Just unlucky that ive not enough money to book a coaching from you... guess ive to save some until ive enough.. :D
Quality
High elo gangplank coaching what we need!
Random thought: you remind me of judge Judy
Dis Mans Blind E's UWU
God there is no champ I hate playing against more than fking Illaoi
It's the healing patch again..just pick a champs with stupid heals and you'll climb in no time. The balancing of this game is a total joke now lol
It's really not, I'm curious what rank you are. I haven't seen one player who shares this dogshit that's above plat
@@Thetoxicpeaceful1 They nerfed anti-heal items to the ground dude, its litererally that braindead
Hired Neace for 350 dollars instead of hiring DirtyMobs for 50 dollars, yikes bub.
Yeah yeah we get it he loves hentai, hence that champion is perfect for him.
im sorry but is this really Dia elo?
I rather play against hard match ups than annoying champs like this lol
I think I've played against this student, Ive been hovering between diamond ranks usually d2 trying to get masters but I feel more jaded with my mentality, I can tell because of the jglr name, personally am not a fan of them
You roast people and refuse to teach them anything unless they stop leveling with the mouse. But not this fella, you just chillin with him.
i dont like that he ask you smth and u look at ur second monitor smth else and didnt even answer him he throw bunch of money to get denied ?
is it really that easy to just hit diamond on top if you onetrick a champ? lmao. This legit looks like a gold coaching
yes because even at this skill levels the fundamentals are fully developed as you would think and things get missed in favor of other things like champ micro and truthfully just lack of knowledge. Neace says this in his streams from the past. Not sure if that weighs the same as the game is always changing.
lol it's not that easy to hit diamond in general because if it was there would be more than 2% of the playerbase in it. Yeah his mechanics aren't great but he knows his champion, has good game sense & good farm...which is something gold players profoundly lack.
@@Manuel-qk8uj it's honestly a nice surprise though, makes me sure I can reach diamond too if I put in the time lol
Everyone can learn the rules of the road but so many still don't know how to drive.
11:19 skill clearly missed by a good margin, hit boxes in league are so disgusting ..
This item build is terrible.
hull rush then frostborn and then blackcleaver. then resist/armour. This build is too squishy and they kited him like easy. No lock on with slow. Just get oneshot everytime after 30 minutes