@EdOrtiz71 This is meant to be done, basically, as one move (grab the leg as you get in turtle). I play turtle often enough and I can tell you that, just like many other transitional situations, I know what I'm looking for will be there 9 out of 10 times. From the perspective of someone that likes this position I'd rather my opponent swing to my head instead of my butt. It's much easier to back out and stand up or sit back into guard that way.
@olamprov turtle guard can be used very effectively in mma actually. properly used, its actually far more effective for escaping and getting back to your feet than closed guard. there is a clip somewhere of Randy Couture, Frank Trigg, and Neil Melanson demoing how it can be done.
@JAMalambalambalamb I've been working this position since blue belt and I 100% agree with everything you said. When they sprawl out of your leg hook it sucks because your offense is dead and you're stuck until they move. When they go to your head it's much easier to bail out and if you attack properly your pretty much guaranteed top position.
You are aboluetely correct that Telles is asking for a crucifix. The difference with Telles is that he is aware of the crucifix possbility and can use the attempt at the position to sweep. We must remember that going for the crucifix and failing puts you from a turtle mount to a guard situation. You go from a superior position to an inferior position. If Telles is ready for the attempt he can prepare against it, in which case the aggressor will fail and telles will get top position. It is Risky.
@luchador1764 I'm talking about the technique. In mma I wouldn't willingly give up my back by going into turtle position like that. Alot of fuckers are so good when they have your back nowadays so no thanks. lol I can't find the clip though.
@BigolePappy2 It's ok haha. Happens to alot of ppl. I think most of us have turtle as our worst position? I wish I could help you out, but thing is I got the same problem. But you shouldn't worry because they wouldn't put a fat dude in the same division as you xD.
@EdOrtiz71 This is meant to be done, basically, as one move (grab the leg as you get in turtle). I play turtle often enough and I can tell you that, just like many other transitional situations, I know what I'm looking for will be there 9 out of 10 times.
From the perspective of someone that likes this position I'd rather my opponent swing to my head instead of my butt. It's much easier to back out and stand up or sit back into guard that way.
@olamprov turtle guard can be used very effectively in mma actually. properly used, its actually far more effective for escaping and getting back to your feet than closed guard. there is a clip somewhere of Randy Couture, Frank Trigg, and Neil Melanson demoing how it can be done.
@JAMalambalambalamb I've been working this position since blue belt and I 100% agree with everything you said. When they sprawl out of your leg hook it sucks because your offense is dead and you're stuck until they move. When they go to your head it's much easier to bail out and if you attack properly your pretty much guaranteed top position.
You are aboluetely correct that Telles is asking for a crucifix. The difference with Telles is that he is aware of the crucifix possbility and can use the attempt at the position to sweep. We must remember that going for the crucifix and failing puts you from a turtle mount to a guard situation. You go from a superior position to an inferior position. If Telles is ready for the attempt he can prepare against it, in which case the aggressor will fail and telles will get top position. It is Risky.
this guy must be a nightmare to deal with... love it
@luchador1764 I'm talking about the technique. In mma I wouldn't willingly give up my back by going into turtle position like that. Alot of fuckers are so good when they have your back nowadays so no thanks. lol I can't find the clip though.
Crucifix city? Or nah?
Yes.
He said "BOOM"😂
@BigolePappy2 It's ok haha. Happens to alot of ppl. I think most of us have turtle as our worst position? I wish I could help you out, but thing is I got the same problem. But you shouldn't worry because they wouldn't put a fat dude in the same division as you xD.
Fucking clever. Can't use this for mma though.