The Base Violence Necessary For Change | ARCANE S1 x E3 | MegMage Reacts
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One small deet I'ma point out is that Silco did what he did regarding Powder, because he looked at Vanders body and immediately sympathized with her as he too from his point of view was betrayed by Vander whom he considered like a brother. Anyhow guys, love ur reaction! Enjoy the ride ;)
did he consider him as a brother or a lover 😌🥰
@@chasepierce4806 Brother
@@Dead25m i say lover 🤧
@@chasepierce4806 .. he literally calls him brother in later episodes 😭 they both confirm they saw each other as brothers .. not in the slightest was it shown that he saw him in a different light , and that’s why sympathizes with powder so much because they both felt betrayed by someone they called family , it’s paralleled like that for a reason.. it’s the reason he even took powder in because he felt what she felt .. if silco saw him as a lover then they would’ve made that shown that just like Vi & Cait .. but he only saw him as family , a brother .
@@Dead25m Brother. They both led the rebellion against the top side (the ending of which is shown in the very first scene of the show).
Vander then made deals with the enforcers to pacify the undercities. For this he had to remove people like Silco who wanted revenge against Piltover. That was Vander's betrayal. Silco recounts the attempted murder several times in episodes 2, 3, 5 and 9.
Them:*Laughing at heimerdinger*
Great example of the calm before the storm
You two are both so incredibly sharp. You've picked up on so many of the subliminal themes that I'm not sure everyone sees -- the parallels between Silco and Vander, and Powder and Vi; the nuance of Silco's villainy; the pain of having someone you love hurt and reject you. I've seen many older youtubers have much less mature reactions to Powder's mistake (blaming her, cheering when Vi hits her), so you guys are like...a breath of fresh air.
RIGHT :')
yeah i thought the same. So much empathy and understanding of the detail. This show was made for them to react to so we all get to understand those nuances. The way they put it into words is great.
Who the hell cheered at that? I’ve seen more people condemning Vi
@@feverprole unfortunately, members of RT TV and YaBoyRoshi. I specifically asked RUclips not to suggest their videos anymore because it bothered me so much that they cheered at a little girl getting punched
@@ferret9386 Ugh don't remind me, lost so much respect for Lupa for his take on blaming a child and saying that she deserves all that trauma and guilt...
I find this episode so hard because ultimately everyone was working to their best intention so who is there to blame.
Vander sacrificed himself to save Vi.
Vi, Clagger and Mylo were saving Vander.
Powder was saving her sister.
At the end, you can’t blame Vi for her reaction because she just watched everyone die. But you can’t blame Powder for what she did because she did it to save her sister.
EXHAUSTING and incredible storytelling.
It's amazing
This show makes every single person relatable and understandable, from the "villains" to the disposable side characters. Which is why I knew you would have good reactions because that's something you usually do anyway. I was crying with ya'll ;_; I'm impressed you guys have picked up on parallels and details that it took me a couple watches to notice! You're going to absolutely love the 4th episode.
• Vander chose peace over freedom
• Silco chose freedom over peace
Neither of them is wrong, they are just two points of view that collide with each other, and that separated these two "brothers" :(
I like how you put it and it's so very true.
Vanders war was always going to be a losing war because they had the numbers but not the weapons or organized battle tactics. It was just an agry mob who just got wiped out.
Silco has a better shot but is the terrifying one because he is turning his people into biological weapons. His is definitely freedom over peace but with a far more severe cost that's not worth it.
@@deadhead8323 Totally agree :)
Also keep in mind that Silco doesn't intend to win the war, as he said:
"I just need to scare them"
What about the freedom of those those Zaunites that did not agree with Silco? How free were they when his goons killed them or when he sent the enforcers after them?
@@heinzerhardt7047 Silco is an extremist: if you're not with him, you're against him. He seeks freedom for his people, those who want to become part of the Nation of Zaun.
But, like all extremists, he doesn't hesitate to eliminate those who go against his ideals. Silco just fights for the right cause with the 'wrong' methods (depends how you look at it). As he sees it, it's only:
"the base violence necessary for change"
@@heinzerhardt7047 Because to him they were in the way of freedom? It's not that difficult.
Meg's nervous laughter about how much of a good father Vander is very telling that she's not going to be ok in about 10mins lol.
"it's amazing what can change in moments of desperation"
Wow. that's SUCH a great quote, and I feel like it can be used to accurately describe so much of this show.
Wow you and your husband have so much sympathy for every character it's refreshing to see, as others have stated! I've been obsessing over watching reactions to Arcane but have been disappointed recently with peoples lack of compassion for either Vi or Powder in this episode. So looking forward to the next episode and how frequently you post them!
I've watched reactions to this episode dozens of times.
Cry every time.
i feel so bad for both Vi and Powder, just kids stuck in a very unfortunate situation
"We'll show them all" those words are not used lightly...this is one of the most intense episodes
I love watching y’all react to this. Both of you seem so empathetic that you pick up on little details first run through that a lot of other people don’t comment on
They found Vander easy because little man followed where they went and told Vi. When Vi got back to Milo, powder and clagger. She mentions this and the name of the place he's being held. Which is how powder knew where to go as well.
I can't get over how good the depiction of a child having a mental breakdown is when Powder is left alone by the gang, with her screaming and hitting herself. I think It's interesting too how Silco was prepared to kill Powder (knife in hand) but was disarmed by her. He had nothing to gain from taking her in, yet he empathized with her.
Btw, I'm very happy that you appreciate the non-romantic relationships between the characters. Love and hate between characters doesn't need to be romantic to be interesting, and this series knows how to tackle non romantic relationships. It's a shame that some people in the community try to force characters into romance when the series itself is doing Its best to avoid that.
I am absolutely dying to see your reacts to more episodes! I’ve already seen Arcane four times and I cannot get enough of it. I love how tender and emotional you are and it broke my heart to see the two of you become to attached to the characters knowing what was coming for them. You both seem like such sweet people. Since Viktor’s my favorite, I’m so glad you like him! Excitedly awaiting more of these! 🥰
lol i dont think the little crystals actually reversed time, i think powder was remembering the explosion and realizing that theyre what caused it 😅 no idea what the crystal viktor and jayce were experimenting on did, seemed like just a lot of energy??
and great point about the anxiety of the vi and powder storyline being broken up by the victory of the jayce story, love how the stories are woven together. love your vids!!! see u in ep 4!
I love how they're all like "The Era of Hextech! Everything will be grand!" And then on the very opposite scene we're shown how it can be used for wrong.
I also don't think that the crystals can reverse time, I think it's more like an Ekko...
The crystals are infused with a great deal of magical energy, kind of like a battery but one that’s far more fragile. That’s why they explode like bombs when they hit a surface hard enough
About the "explosions" at silcos place. Im almost 100% sure its just one explosion, but the creators were quite clever and make it look like several explosions, when infact it was just one explosion but from several different angles and that made it look like it was several ones.
Good writing respects characters enough that it lets them fail for their strengths not their weaknesses. That's how it is with Arcane; there aren't heroes or villains but differing, justifiable perspectives.
20:11 "That is so much worse than I ever could've imagined." Indeed. It rip your hearts out. Great reaction! (What kills me is how seconds before the monkey bomb exploded, you guys were adoring Powder. And especially when in episode 1 and 2 they were building up our love and hope for the two sisters to stay together forever, they took it all apart in episode 3. 😭)
Imagine such great storytelling in the Star Wars or Star Trek universe. Instead of the mostly shitty new age bs they try to shove down the audience' throat....
I've watched a lot of reactions to Arcane I'm sad to admit haha 😅but you guys have a really good understanding of the level of complexity behind the story off your initial analysis. It's so enjoyable to see you appreciate the masterful story telling (as evident by the emotions and tears you shed that i also shared 🤣) Thanks for sharing!
There's a neat little detail I picked up on watching the scene with Silco/Powder. Where she's hugging him and he starts to raise his hand he pauses, and for a moment the way the camera pans between him and his minions you know he's facing a choice: take Powder in, or end her. The pause is really subtle, but the slow way he brings his hand down emphasizes the moment he makes his choice. Such a nice detail in terms of body language that you don't usually see in animated shows.
Vi looking at her hands goes a little further as while she was holding Powder's face after hitting her, blood dripped from Powder's nose down to Vi's hand. She actually had her little sister's blood on her hand and she was the cause of that.
"these, won't solve your problems. Only cause more of them."
How right was Vander? He saw how vi was. And knew she'd react to quickly to things. He was trying to protect her.
It’s something I’ve seen with many reactors (and by now I’ve seen my fair share).
People try to find the “bad guy” or the villain. But in this show there aren’t really villains, just people with their own agenda, motives and methods.
And while some are more morally and ethically questionable, like Silco, you can’t really say he’s a villain. And I think the show is that more realistic because of this.
If you took this story and replaced the enforcers with nazi occupiers, we would probably see Silco as the a resistance hero and Vander as collaborator. And from Silco’s perspective, this is exactly the case.
I partially disagree about what you said concerning Silco, as he does become oppressive towards his people like the enforcers themselves.
Riot studios/League of Legends allows most of their entire, full cinematics, music videos and game IPs to be used for personal projects, creative projects, and streamers without copyright penalty as long as it credits and supports League of Legends and is used for original creative content. Reactions with full cinematics are allowed. So are most of their music videos allowed to be displayed in full as part of a reaction (aside from the original Warriors by Imagine Dragons for some reason).
Riot Studios proclaimed: "We love our players and the awesome stuff they create. We support players who use our intellectual property (“IP”) to create free fan projects for the benefit of the community ('Projects')."
This definitely does not include Arcane as Netflix and Fortiche also have say in the copyright.
(But feel free to react in full to League of Legends amazing cinematics and music videos. They are just as amazing as the Arcane series. Tales of Runeterra can be done in full, and they show little cinematics of each of the countries of the world of Arcane, including Piltover.)
Yeah in this case it’s Netflix who is flagging the videos not league of legends
if i remember right they did say it was ok to do the first episode you were allowed to stream it as well but only the first ep
I think you've found the heart of the story, well done. The scene at the start of this episode is metaphorical, too: everyone is drowning in the events around them, having to choose between giving in to an unequal peace or risk everything to fight for more. All the characters are sympathetic, all the choices are hard. I love this show so much.
The owl thing about being able to put up full video and not have issues is just with league short cinematics, but arcane also belongs to Netflix and they don't want people to put up full episodes.
arcane belongs to riot, netflix paid riot to show it on their platform. still can't show the whole thing but audio is completely fine, so people can do full reactions just not showing the entire episode. Cept the intro, imagine dragons own's that and they're a bit aids with copyright.
@@rinzzler366 Oh yea, just audio is fine
Few channels react or comment on the music. For me it’s almost the strongest part of the show. For example episode 9 really hit me on my 2nd watch when I listened to the music and lyrics. This episode (nr. 3) has some monster lyrics in the credits. All the music (apart from “enemy”) is written and composed TO THE ANIMATION by riot and performed by various famous artists.
There's more sad, but there's more happy on the way. And while there's other tough parts, this is really the most brutal episode BY FAR. But it all feels well-earned . . . both the sad and the good.
Thank you for the reaction!
y'all are in for a ride! I feel episode 3 really hooks people in, great reaction!
Subbed.
Great reaction. This show is so freaking good! Can’t wait for you guys to continue onto next episode
congratulations for the reaction, stopping to comment is the right thing, it makes the reaction more real and how you pay attention
“I hope that was the saddest it gets” … 😬
Arcane is amazing. Looking forward to your reactions! Subbed.
You guys are one of the very few that remember Clagger's name, that's awesome!!!
You comment in that you hope this is the saddest part... well all I will say it is debated if this is the saddest episode or not. I love this series so much because it is so real. There is no bad or good guys, just people living their lives and making decisions that they think is write but sometimes they are wrong or made for the wrong reasons.
Like Silco he wants the undercity to be free, so he has noble goals but his methods are questionable but you can understand why, someone he considered his brother tried to murder him. So you can see how and why he would become so extreme now. That is the biggest reason i love this show, it is amazing all around but the characters are just so freaking real and you can see everyones point of view, even if you disagree with them you get why they do what they do, right or wrong.
Anyways looking forward to your next reaction.
I was getting big parent vibes from both of you from the start of this show -- you'll be great parents if you choose to have kids
Thank you so much 🥺
You guys are awesome. Keep it up!
Love your reactions, can't wait for more you guys are in for a wild ride :)
The complexity of this show is just amazing...the writers have done such a wonderful job and im so excited for season 2 and for yall to hopefully react to that too (:
We are so obsessed with our own individuality, with taking it all on our own shoulders, the good and the bad, that we sometimes forget that we are a combination of, yes, who we are... but also of how we treat each other. This is a very good story about the consequences of violence, be it social, psychological or physical. It begins with two children seeing their dead parents on a war zone. Unfortunately... that sais it almost all.
We hold so much power over our loved one.. that's very profound. Never thought i'd learn new things this way. Thank you.
To clarify, these were released in 3 episode Acts. So that's why this feel likes an ending of sorts.
Hey @LockeKappa ;)
Love seeing your reactions to Arcane!
"how did you find him?" Vi says to boys that Ekko said that he was taken to the old warehouse by the docks.
The song in the credits though 😭
Another reaction
Clagger and milo: here we go again
One thing to point out, vi didn't leave powder, vi walked away to calm down after realising that she was hurting her. Her intentions were to help powder, and the best way to do that for her was to leave.
OOF. That episode 3 hits different.
I'm suing Netflix for emotional damage.
haha..imagine if everyone did that :))))))))))))))))))
I was hooked from the very first episode but this one really got me messed up and obsessed like i never thought a show would
You both are good reactiors❣️. I like your emotions😊
One of the things you guys slightly pointed out is this feels more like real life and that’s why the emotional pull is far stronger. I really appreciate that Riot games isn’t Disney. In Disney films everything always works out in the end. But in real life that’s not always the case. Riot games isn’t afraid to show sad and horrifying things because that’s what happens in real life. These aren’t cartoon characters with plot armor they are being treated as real people with real struggles and feelings.
A shorter set videos they did for league of legends that are much older hold some of this tragic feeling too.
1) Annie Origins: focuses on the character Annie who is an extremely powerful pyromancer for her young age and she can transform her teddy bear into a giant flaming bear. This video showcases her childhood with her family after her biological mother died and remarried to a new woman. That one made me cry and the step mom is a real bitch.
2) The curse of the Sad Mummy- we don’t really have any info about the character Amumu when he was alive but he is a small boy who reincarnates as a mummy and is cursed that he will never have a friend in his “new” life because everything he touches dies. His is more of a song cinematic and details how he is tormented by his curse and incidentally harms other people without ever meaning to do so.
Both of those are fantastic but short videos to watch. Especially Annie’s as the cinematic looks like a moving watercolor painting, gorgeous to look at
0:01 Look at these smiling happy people about to watch episode 3. lul.
Marcus having the drug just show he was prepared to take someone whit him.. and that he knew that it wasn't going to be easy.
"so cuuuute"... ahahahahahah
14:39 oh no, you poor souls...
The only ep that you can react on full with no cuts is ep 1, cause that's only ep thats free to "react" to, riot said its to advertise Arcane.
I don't think fighting or taking a powerup vial was ever against Vanders morals. He was only a peacekeeper for the sake of protecting family, so when fighting was the only way to protect Vi, it's not against his morals to do so.
20:25 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. NO.
“I hope that’s the saddest it gets” No it’s not
I am genuinely happy to see that y'all didn't immediately vilify Marcus. Time will tell if you stay sympathetic to him, but I've always thought that in a show with so many flawed characters, its weird how many reacters just immediately hate *him*.
for me ep 3 was the most heartbreaking, but dont get me wrong... this episode really sets the tone for the rest of the series. So you guys might think other episodes are just as heartbreaking.
I never thought I'd be able to watch Tom Holland react to arcane episodes, thank you for making this dream come true
Episode 3 “I hope this is the saddest it gets”
Honestly if Marcus hadn't grabbed Vi, Vi would have run over...gotten herself killed and upon witnessing that Powder would not be okay with that gang and therefore would have also gotten killed.
I don't know why someone would tell you that you could post the entire episode and without having any issues.
From what I understand, what people has been saying is that you can kept the music in the reactions (except the one from Imagine Dragons) without worrying about copyright strikes. Now, I don't know if that's actually true but I've seen several reactors to this show, most of them kept the music in the video and I haven't seen any of them have a problem with it. But everyone has been careful about staying below the 10-minute mark.
This episode is honestly even sadder on rewatch. Won’t say why because it’s spoilers but yeah lol
riot is pretty gentle when it comes to copyright. you can show THEIR cinematics and music videos full lenght but not the NETFLIX show :D who said that? why would it be on netflix if you can show full length on youtube :D
Is that the ultra instinct Goku Vegeta jacket on your chair?
"Hopefully that's as sad as it gets".... Sorry in advance....
Oh there's certainly fault in this, it just points in multiple directions at different points in time. This show does a great job of showing characters through both animation and writing as human beings and not as simple stereotypes to use for a specific purpose.
Anyone else wonder why the heck Marco just carries around chloroform?
To drug teenage girls in a dark alley apparently lol
Welcome to Arcane, how emotionally destroyed are you so far?
I'd like to get off Mr. Bones Sad Ride...
Oh but it's only just begun!
This episode is rough man…
"I hope that was the saddest it gets" Oh boy lol
that episode was hard to watch. so sad
"I knew u still had it in you" when Silco says that to Vander .. i always thought it refers to the guilt Vander still felt for trying to drown Silco. Anyways .. nice reaction .. lets go act 2 !!
You guys fall for the "pretty things good, ugly things bad" trope pretty hard
This story does not follow the trope of the rookie who saves the day. It is more like the kid who plays with rocket fuel in the garaje and burns the house. This is why parents take care of not leaving dangerous stuff in the hands of kids.
To me, Vi is the real jinx. She gets everyone into trouble. If Vi had not taken them to Jayce house, Vander would not have been taken. And if Vi had not been headed to the warehouse, nobody would have died.
Vander capture does not seem to be with a purpose of interrogation or even to kill him. It seemed to me that Silco wanted Vander as test subject for that purple shimmer. In the end Vander drank it anyway, so Vi's presence was useless.
Vi also is stubborn and never listen to Vander. "Protect Powder" Vander said, and what did Vi do next? Play mental games with Powder which could have cost Powder life. In a way it did cost that because the outcome was worst than dying. Vi had ONE JOB and Vi failed.
I think you are as hard to Vi as the kids calling Powder Jinx. They're all kids.
Time to see the cutest couple in the world get their heart broken 💀
Wait what tshirt is Calev wearing? I want it
It’s a Vans t shirt Meg found for me on ASOS! I’m a big Vans fan