great review, watched it about 15 times before ordering! josef: I just got a 5'3, i'm 5'4 and about 65kg, ride between 23 and 25 litres usually using it as a step up(could have gone for the 5'2 but not in full winter wetty/hood etc), i'd go 5'4 or 5'5 depending on what litre- age you normally surf. loads of foam under your chest so float is really good for such a small board, rail and tail is as sharp as my 5'5 23.5 ltr sci fi but with x2 more litres of volume, winner!
I'm 85-88KG/180LBs @49yrs, surf alot (inter/advanced) and have had three Tomo Omni's over the last 2yrs. First a 5'5 (creased) and then two 5'6s. Quad if it's small, thruster for the good stuff i.e 5-6ft Cloudbreak. The LFT is strong snap and deck wise but gets annoying splits in the rail that take on water because, EPS. The glassing/finishing quality is average at best. I don't get the distance for the price out of these boards. That being said, next I will be be tossing between a Cymatic (bat tail durability nightmare) or yet another 5'6 Omni. My present Omni is still my go to (after three (different fins) shoddy fin box removal/resets, multiple rail split repairs, now approx 50% heavier than orig) over a brand new (8 surfs) JS 5'11 HiFy MonstaBox. The fuckers are that good. I would like a better construction alternative from Firewire/Slater/Tomo, but unfortunately I will have to bite down on the bit and continue to take it deep and dry in the ass wallet. Fuckers are that good. Hope that helps. History 5BO (5yrs before Omni). 2x 6'2 Taj Model FST Firewire, 1x 6'0 Bourez Firewire FST, 2x 6'1 KS12 CI PU, 2x Hashtag Firewire FST 5'10 & 5'11. I travel a lot and like Firewire because I can buy the over priced fragile pieces of shit anywhere i.e France (Lorient), Bali, L.A (Huntington), French Antilles (Guadeloupe), NZ (Auckland), Thailand (Phuket).
Hi Tyler. I watched another review and the reviewer said it's for good waves...I want it more as an all arounder. Will it work for that? I have a sci fi 6 1 it's about 35.7 L. I want a bit more volume to catch more waves but I still want it to perform in hollow and mushy waves...I mostly surf beach breaks just south of santa cruz. I'm ok with switching fins for different conditions....which is usually what I do...Thank you! Great thorough review by the way.
Tyler Richter there’s little to no info on the SKX. I’m getting different perspectives from people riding them, and for some reason all the personal feedback that’s been negative, is because the board in each circumstance has been very under volumed
I can for sure do an SKX review! I personally really like that board for its high performance versatility. You are right about the lack of info behind it. Thanks for the rec!
Great review. Great insight on the board design without getting overly technical. I'd suggest filming directly head on for a better look, and possibly editing in some surf footage. If you've surfed the SKX how would you compare it to the Cymatic?
David Pham thanks for the suggestion, this was my first crack at making a video like this so any feed back is good feedback! The skx is much more “shortboardy”. It needs a lot more power to really get the board going in comparison to the Cymatic, however it is a super versitile board, from my experience on it some of the best sessions I had were at blacks when it was just a bit overhead. If you are looking for a more performance driven shape, do the SKX, but if you want something that will still give you comparable performance but in a wider range of waves, do the Cymatic!
Thanks for the reply. I surf Santa Cruz and primarily intend to ride it in waves head high or bigger at point breaks. I'm leaning towards the SKX. Hope to see more reviews in the future.
Hi Tyler, I was just in SD visiting your shop and John. I'm 6'0, approx 84kg + 4/3mm wetsuit and thinking about what size for the Cymatic? 22 years of surfing. Intermediate level. Currently, I'm riding a 5'8" Omni (32.4L) in many conditions (beach and reefs in Portugal), but when the waves get bigger or punchier (Portugal) I feel like I need a bit more foam. I'm thinking a 5'9" or 5'10". What do you think?
I'm 5.9 187lbs and skill level is intermediate. I can get into waves at pretty much any spot I paddle out at and pump down the line but not doing anything too crazy. Thinking 5.7 or 5.8? Any thoughts or suggestions on sizing? Currently ride a 5.8 Rusty Dwart and a 5.11 CI High 5.
Hi Tyler, good review! I‘m 5.6 tall and have a weight of 73kg. Usually I surf a CI DFR at 28 Liter mainly in Indo and Ireland. Now I‘m going on a Surf Trip to Peru and Chile from August till December. Which size of the Cymatic would you recommend? The Cymatic will be my only Board on that trip.
Hi Tyler and thanks for the review I would like to buy à cymatic I m french i live in Hossegor and i go every years two month in Indonesia my level is intermediate to advence I am 36 for 5'10 and 165 lbs Actualy i surf a Lost round up 6'0 19 1/4 2 1/2 31L It's my board for every day I am.looking for a board for everyday with good paddle Is cymatic good ? What size ? And what fins you advisor Thanks to have read me and continue yours reviews
Thanks man. It is really interesting to see the differences first hand. Although it looks like the two boards put together at first glance, there is a lot more going on than what the naked eye can see. If you get the chance to feel one out do it, and then feel the sci fi and the omni to really feel the difference between the three boards!
HI, great review, I have one question I have a Blak Box II in hy fi construction and I love it in small waves. I was looking for a surfboard that performs when the waves get good, may be chest high tu overhead plus, you recomend the cymaticfor this purpose? or the gamma? hope you can respond.
alejandro soto palomares Hi! I would fully recommend the Cymatic for the conditions you mentioned. It just works in everything, and it will fully spice up your quiver!!
I have all 3, and the Cymatic feels much more high performance (think radical snaps, releasing the tail) while the Omni allows for more drawn-out carves with its round tail. Personally, I think I'd ride the Cymatic up to HH, but for bigger, I would prefer the Omni- certainly in steeper/hollower waves- which feels like it has a longer rail line (even at around the same length). It's a great mini step-up if you are used to an Evo. check out this FW clip about the two: ruclips.net/video/uadVGrNh3v8/видео.html
Without knowing your surfing ability, I would guess that you could get by with riding a 5’9 or a 5’10 just based off of your weight. If you take a look at the link I shared in the description it will take you to all of the dimensions. What are you riding now?
I am 110% all about futures. I have been riding the futures f4 quad set in the Cymatic (a size small fin) however for your height and weight you can ride an f6 quad on the cymatic. Due to the tail shape and all of the end points clawing into the wave you can get by with riding a smaller sized fin...the only other fin I have been riding in the board is a set of medium John John Florence fins. I like a stiffer fin, but I find the stiffer fin actually complements the looseness of the board
Tyler Richter Thanks for the advice lad! Good to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about. FYI I ordered the board in a 5’10’’ hope to get it sometime in May. Let's hope for some good surf here in N.Ireland 🤙
Ryun Paul Suh i have been able to surf it in a handful of conditions, from head high reefs around here in north county, all the way to poor beach breaks and the board still performs. It’s pretty sick to have a reliable board that works in everything in my quiver. Best conditions I’ve surfed it in have been like shoulder to head high in clean conditions. There isn’t a bad condition for this board...
Matthew Harkness one thing that sets this board apart from other performance shortboards is how forgiving it is underfoot. It has a huge sweet spot and it makes the board feel super good in all conditions
Great review and analysis! You really DO love surfboards!
great review, watched it about 15 times before ordering!
josef: I just got a 5'3, i'm 5'4 and about 65kg, ride between 23 and 25 litres usually using it as a step up(could have gone for the 5'2 but not in full winter wetty/hood etc), i'd go 5'4 or 5'5 depending on what litre- age you normally surf. loads of foam under your chest so float is really good for such a small board, rail and tail is as sharp as my 5'5 23.5 ltr sci fi but with x2 more litres of volume, winner!
I'm 85-88KG/180LBs @49yrs, surf alot (inter/advanced) and have had three Tomo Omni's over the last 2yrs. First a 5'5 (creased) and then two 5'6s. Quad if it's small, thruster for the good stuff i.e 5-6ft Cloudbreak. The LFT is strong snap and deck wise but gets annoying splits in the rail that take on water because, EPS. The glassing/finishing quality is average at best.
I don't get the distance for the price out of these boards.
That being said, next I will be be tossing between a Cymatic (bat tail durability nightmare) or yet another 5'6 Omni. My present Omni is still my go to (after three (different fins) shoddy fin box removal/resets, multiple rail split repairs, now approx 50% heavier than orig) over a brand new (8 surfs) JS 5'11 HiFy MonstaBox. The fuckers are that good.
I would like a better construction alternative from Firewire/Slater/Tomo, but unfortunately I will have to bite down on the bit and continue to take it deep and dry in the ass wallet. Fuckers are that good.
Hope that helps.
History 5BO (5yrs before Omni). 2x 6'2 Taj Model FST Firewire, 1x 6'0 Bourez Firewire FST, 2x 6'1 KS12 CI PU, 2x Hashtag Firewire FST 5'10 & 5'11.
I travel a lot and like Firewire because I can buy the over priced fragile pieces of shit anywhere i.e France (Lorient), Bali, L.A (Huntington), French Antilles (Guadeloupe), NZ (Auckland), Thailand (Phuket).
Hi Tyler. I watched another review and the reviewer said it's for good waves...I want it more as an all arounder. Will it work for that? I have a sci fi 6 1 it's about 35.7 L. I want a bit more volume to catch more waves but I still want it to perform in hollow and mushy waves...I mostly surf beach breaks just south of santa cruz. I'm ok with switching fins for different conditions....which is usually what I do...Thank you! Great thorough review by the way.
Nice articulate review - thanks for the video!
Waxfoot thanks man! What board should I review next!?
Tyler Richter there’s little to no info on the SKX. I’m getting different perspectives from people riding them, and for some reason all the personal feedback that’s been negative, is because the board in each circumstance has been very under volumed
I can for sure do an SKX review! I personally really like that board for its high performance versatility. You are right about the lack of info behind it. Thanks for the rec!
Great review. Great insight on the board design without getting overly technical. I'd suggest filming directly head on for a better look, and possibly editing in some surf footage. If you've surfed the SKX how would you compare it to the Cymatic?
David Pham thanks for the suggestion, this was my first crack at making a video like this so any feed back is good feedback! The skx is much more “shortboardy”. It needs a lot more power to really get the board going in comparison to the Cymatic, however it is a super versitile board, from my experience on it some of the best sessions I had were at blacks when it was just a bit overhead. If you are looking for a more performance driven shape, do the SKX, but if you want something that will still give you comparable performance but in a wider range of waves, do the Cymatic!
Thanks for the reply. I surf Santa Cruz and primarily intend to ride it in waves head high or bigger at point breaks. I'm leaning towards the SKX. Hope to see more reviews in the future.
Hi Tyler, I was just in SD visiting your shop and John. I'm 6'0, approx 84kg + 4/3mm wetsuit and thinking about what size for the Cymatic? 22 years of surfing. Intermediate level. Currently, I'm riding a 5'8" Omni (32.4L) in many conditions (beach and reefs in Portugal), but when the waves get bigger or punchier (Portugal) I feel like I need a bit more foam. I'm thinking a 5'9" or 5'10". What do you think?
You should make a video of you surfing the board, nice description!
Salty Barber thank you so much! That’s the plan, just waiting on some swell here!
I'm 5.9 187lbs and skill level is intermediate. I can get into waves at pretty much any spot I paddle out at and pump down the line but not doing anything too crazy. Thinking 5.7 or 5.8? Any thoughts or suggestions on sizing? Currently ride a 5.8 Rusty Dwart and a 5.11 CI High 5.
Hi Tyler, good review! I‘m 5.6 tall and have a weight of 73kg. Usually I surf a CI DFR at 28 Liter mainly in Indo and Ireland. Now I‘m going on a Surf Trip to Peru and Chile from August till December. Which size of the Cymatic would you recommend? The Cymatic will be my only Board on that trip.
Josef Eckl get a 5’5! That’s what I have been riding and it works in everything, it’s a great travel board
Hey man, would you recommend this board for an intermediate surfer surfing south shore Oahu in the winter/spring?
Hi Tyler and thanks for the review
I would like to buy à cymatic
I m french i live in Hossegor and i go every years two month in Indonesia my level is intermediate to advence
I am 36 for 5'10 and 165 lbs
Actualy i surf a Lost round up
6'0 19 1/4 2 1/2 31L
It's my board for every day
I am.looking for a board for everyday with good paddle
Is cymatic good ?
What size ? And what fins you advisor
Thanks to have read me and continue yours reviews
Nice run down. Liked the comparison to the sci-fi and omni.
Thanks man. It is really interesting to see the differences first hand. Although it looks like the two boards put together at first glance, there is a lot more going on than what the naked eye can see. If you get the chance to feel one out do it, and then feel the sci fi and the omni to really feel the difference between the three boards!
For sure great review I might just come in and bug ya
Great review, please do the hydroshort and hydronaut from tomo.
HI, great review, I have one question I have a Blak Box II in hy fi construction and I love it in small waves. I was looking for a surfboard that performs when the waves get good, may be chest high tu overhead plus, you recomend the cymaticfor this purpose? or the gamma? hope you can respond.
alejandro soto palomares Hi! I would fully recommend the Cymatic for the conditions you mentioned. It just works in everything, and it will fully spice up your quiver!!
What board compliments the Evo in hh and above waves? Omni or Cymatic?
I have all 3, and the Cymatic feels much more high performance (think radical snaps, releasing the tail) while the Omni allows for more drawn-out carves with its round tail. Personally, I think I'd ride the Cymatic up to HH, but for bigger, I would prefer the Omni- certainly in steeper/hollower waves- which feels like it has a longer rail line (even at around the same length). It's a great mini step-up if you are used to an Evo. check out this FW clip about the two: ruclips.net/video/uadVGrNh3v8/видео.html
What is the time frame on getting a cymatic if you guys do not have the right size, or Fin box in stock?
mxnofear351 it’s dependent on if firewire has one available for you in the factory, otherwise come in and we will get you dialed in!
Great video lad!! One question? I'm 6’2’’ around 80kg what size would you recommend?
Without knowing your surfing ability, I would guess that you could get by with riding a 5’9 or a 5’10 just based off of your weight. If you take a look at the link I shared in the description it will take you to all of the dimensions. What are you riding now?
Thanks for the quick reply Tyler, currently riding 6'0'' Black flag whip by Al Merrick. Long overdue a new stick. any thought on FCS2 vs Future's?
I am 110% all about futures. I have been riding the futures f4 quad set in the Cymatic (a size small fin) however for your height and weight you can ride an f6 quad on the cymatic. Due to the tail shape and all of the end points clawing into the wave you can get by with riding a smaller sized fin...the only other fin I have been riding in the board is a set of medium John John Florence fins. I like a stiffer fin, but I find the stiffer fin actually complements the looseness of the board
Tyler Richter Thanks for the advice lad! Good to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about. FYI I ordered the board in a 5’10’’ hope to get it sometime in May. Let's hope for some good surf here in N.Ireland 🤙
Stoked for you man! Hope you enjoy the board!
What kind of conditions have you been able to test out the board and which have been the most fun with this board?
Ryun Paul Suh i have been able to surf it in a handful of conditions, from head high reefs around here in north county, all the way to poor beach breaks and the board still performs. It’s pretty sick to have a reliable board that works in everything in my quiver. Best conditions I’ve surfed it in have been like shoulder to head high in clean conditions. There isn’t a bad condition for this board...
Solid review
Bro I had English with you at mira costa, mushinsky back in 2016 fall
How sensitive is the board to foot placement?
Matthew Harkness one thing that sets this board apart from other performance shortboards is how forgiving it is underfoot. It has a huge sweet spot and it makes the board feel super good in all conditions
solid review!
Glass Ocean thank you!
Cymatic Vs. Hypto Krypto?? Decisons......
One God, One Country, One Fin
Whitenacho if that’s what you’re into I support it!
Nice!
No real god, many countries , plenty fin options
So are people who ride finless godless terrorist?
No their just good.