Felling a hung up tree - safety first
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2009
- In part 3 David Rossney makes chainsaw cuts to a tree so it falls where he wants. He also deals with a common problem, a "hung up" tree, where the surrounding trees stop it falling as planned.
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That was the best tree cutting video I’ve ever seen and I watch a lot of them . That guy used a couple of tools I’ve never heard of. No dull spots.
Strangely compelling.
Thanks for showing how it can be done in a calm and controlled manner. I didn't realise there was so much to it!
There are some real tossers on here, 'reckless' - 'kindling' the guy is showing something on a small tree as a TRAINING aid. You can do any better..... do it, don't just talk about it.Keep it up please Woodlands TV.
Greetings from Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada
My Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother moved from Camborne Cornwall England to Victoria British Columbia on Vancouver Island in 1903
I live in Campbell River 270 Kms north of Victoria and logged for 30 years,loved ever minute
Great video,time for a pint😎 of beer or2
Excellent training video, have added this to our tree work training playlist
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Huh, really I thought the hinge and technique was pretty far from practice.. those little trees will get u or squishy the feet if ur not careful like he wasnt..
Bloody good video , instructing how to deal with problems that commonly turn up . Brilliant .
Bloody well dun! I learned something here. Will use this on the job, thanks
Yes!! Love the Felling Lever. Nice instructional Vid.
Think a few are missing the point of the video. Why are people always so bloody negative.
Hugh Mungas c
The way that music started I thought we were going to see some fairies prancing through that forest.
Guys this is by fare the best video I have seen yet showing an attempt at dealing with a hung up tree using the NPTC city and Guilds CS31 best practice (for those not in the uk thats UK best practice for felling a tree up to 15" DBH). The only part where this falls down is that you are taught to open the hing up after the hang up by boreing through the middle of the hing leaving 10% on either side,then removing one of the pegs to role the tree out - never the less a good attempt.
Thank you for the great vid!
spot on the best video of six point sneeding I have seen anywhere just what should be taught - good on you !
I had this 4 days ago, never seen it done, never been on youtube and i did exactly what he said. Still was stuck and hung up, i felt like a failure but this actually cheered me up! I did it right, but still would not fall. I left it there cause i didnt wanna get hurt, so i got to shop and bought a lever winch.. Got it safely down today, and now im watching "felling hung up trees" on youtube .. Safety first is the most important thing! I was alone in the forest also..
Excellent! That can be a mess. Thanks for sharing.
Before saying how macho you are in the comments, remember that this guy is teaching a class, not trying to break any records.
i'm learning. thanks!
Job done indeed. Beautiful calmness in your technique if I may say so. I was also impressed by the brevity of your chainsaw operations. Is the "wedge on a stick" tool you wielded a standard Brit thing? Also: any plans to electrify sawing in future?
A useful video, thanks
Again thanks for great information.
In reply to the comments below, he's going slowly for the video. I trained with this guy (David Rossney, of Esus Forestry), and he's really good at taking you slowly through all the steps so you understand what to do. I've seen him work at full speed, and he's fast!
And about tree size, he was doing a small one for demonstration purposes, as he only had a short time during the day. He trains and assesses people on all sizes of tree.
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Ml mo ni,
Mo mo ml mo lol
Slow is steady and steady is fast.
Good info. Thanks.
great video David
thanks for using pleasant backround music, and not obnoxious heavy mettal..
An excellent job. I did my chain saw certificate...hung up tree. We needed to work on to clear that. The other parts of the course when't ok.
Thanks for a good video
I have watched and learned from several of your videos, Thank You very much for your Educational Videos!!!
I wish to know what your " lever + adjustable log jack tool " is actually called, and where could I purchase one of those. Thank You in advance.
The tool he was using to push lever the tree is called a felling bar and the tool he used to twist the tree is a shorter felling bar with a cant hook attached. All logging companies make them husqvarna makes good ones that aren't particularly expensive.
I’d personally rather enter closer to waste high and go back to reduce the stump than to make my cuts that prone to danger in the crouch position. Well executed though. Most impressed with the prybar walk out at the end
If you're cutting for firewood, sure. But if you're selling logs, you'd be losing so much money on leaving high stumps. Cut as low as you can if you want to make it worth your while.
Yeah, but it's the little ones that kill people. The big ones are scary, so the faller is careful. The little ones entice people to get casual and take shortcuts, kerf cutting, domino falling, etc..
Thanks i learned something today.....you sure know the law of angles
as much as people are hating on this for it being a small tree, i've seen trees that size barber chair and almost really mess people up, its good to know how to do it safely, although with a pie cut that small if it were a leaner it could still barber chair with no bore cut.
Where did you get that tool and how far does the can’t open?
Nice job👍
Good video. Any advice for bigger trees you can't spin by hand? More than 4' diameter.
Trees that big don't need spinning, the fall on their own.
What do you call that tool you grab the tree with?
I cut a lot of firewood and face a lot of hung up trees that are already at a 45 degree angle hung up (Usually blow overs do this aka partially uprooted. For those I make a top and bottom cut. Then I take my truck with my biggest chain and yank perpendicular to twist it. Its been my safest and easiest way if you can get a truck to the location. The chain is also about fifty feet. Just always be safe and when in doubt call a professional.
Due to environmental regulations, this is the most powerful saw allowed in the UK
@lazlow69 It's a "felling lever", or "breaking bar".
A buddy of mine got killed about 20 years ago,cutting a tree that he had just previously fell and got hung up. He never came back home and his girlfriend went out to where he was cutting and found him..Ever since that , when I'm out cutting firewood and see one,I just leave it alone..After these fine vids, I will try that next time.. Good vid
Well according to all the comments I should be dead haha hang ups happen to every one you video looked good
Very good video, the only question I have is why do you start cutting so low? I cut higher than cut the stump, just preference I guess.
It's standard practice to cut low in forestry so you maintain as much of the most valuable part of the tree at the base as possible and have a nice long pole and the highest price. I don't fell trees for timber so cut at a more comfortable height but when I do my three-yearly refresher course the trainer generally comments that I'm cutting too high!
@Travis7114 glasses tend to hurt the tops of your ears from the ear defenders inward pressure after an hour or two of wearing them.
very proper and english chap. never seen someone with so much gear on their belt.
considering the dense inter twined canopy you did alright.
Why was the first cut so shallow?
feels like it should have gone deeper than half way.
A cut that shallow works on some trees and doesn't on others. In a beginners instructional video it would have been better to be deeper. But I think it was to make it easier to create the hung up.
That being said, never cut half way or deeper. A good rule of the thumb is up to 1/3 of the way. If you cut a heavy tree with a notch too deep the hinge is likely to fail and cause "stump jump" and then you don't know where the tree will fall. Another thing that too deep a notch does is it removes so much support that the tree doesn't stand on it's own and can actually fall backwards. You want the tree to stand on it's own despite the notch until you make the back cut.
I don't understand cutting that down in that thick forest
In my profile pic you can see tall pine approx. 60 feet by 2 foot dia. leaning on two other tall pine trees towards the back roof of my house. question can I cut top side approx. 1/3 up the tree ?
this is good ignore the haters.
I would rather be called a hater than stupid like you. This guy would go broke cutting wood for a living.
This is exactly how you get taught to do it, and fully complied with certification guidelines in the UK (not sure where you're from?)
Moi?
Austin lol
@@austindenotter19 You of course do this for a living. Yeah nah thought not.
What does that mean?
Its nice to see some one than KNOWS what hes talking about !!
not this video!!!
it called a felling leaver they come in two sizes small and large this guy has the large one you can buy them from any large forrestry supplier or any good arb shop. BS Bennets in tavistock in devon will post them to you should be about £35- 40 for the large one I hope this helps Brian from derbyshire tree services
This gentleman certainly knows what he is doing. Thank you for the video.
-pw,
Finland.
What is the tool that you are using to turn and wedge the log with?
It's Swedish. They use that in Sweden all the time.
Google felling lever.
Who makes the tool you are using as a lever and a peavy?
The Swedes
Google felling lever.
Will work only on a skinny smallish tree - not on a big one.
He's using small trees barbecue they're easier to work with but the principles are the basically the same. Anyway , as you can see , there's no skidder or feller bunchers around.
sorry to hear about your mate but you should never leave a hung up tree and if you do ensure you put tape up or something to prevent people walking under it
My tree/saw is bigger than yours! Haha, there is a lot of compensating going on here.
If you look all his gear is brand new.
google "felling lever". Good bit of kit.
that bar thing seems like its only for little trees, i dont think i would use that on a real tree
That looked easy on a tree that you can man handle with a Felling lever but what about a very big tree that you can't man handle would be much harder to do.
Toy tree 😂
Toy tree 😂
lol....I read "Felling a hung tree" XD
could have made a falling hole for that tree or pushed it( to over come the falling difficulty)with another would have been much safer.
It's an instructional video, showing what to do if your tree is hung up. He lodged the tree on purpose.
Not sure you should be walking in front of it seeing as your video title says "safety first"!
buy docma winch--it has power!
Is that mesh facemask considred proper PPE.. not in the states.. glasses are a must
It is an alternative in the states
Twist got it
Pry bar got it
Its like a joke to work with that forest.
He obviously never used to be a post-cutter by profession.
Cuts a dead soft wood tree like a scientist... I’d throw that thing down with my silky
Couldn't you just use a come along and pull the tree out from the other tree
@murphy4trees says who?
Nice. You made some kindling for starting a fire.
None of these techniques could be used on a tree in the western US, where they can grow 150’ tall and weigh a few tons.
But that would be old growth forest,which many in Europe would say should be conserved,not cut.In Britain it is mostly plantation timber grown from seedlings and aimed in the commercial sector mainly for either pitprops or woodchip/ paper.Also there are not many sawmills that can handle big stuff
Teaching people to cut notches that aren't deep enough.
Do that on a large tree and there's a chance it will split (Barber Chair) in your face.
Notc.h depth should be 1/4 - 1/3 the diameter.
you also can use the chain saw to get it down, but it needs a better skill the way this guy is doing is for him more safe....
that was at small tree i started felling those trees when i was 12 year old not lieing. im felling big oaks now and im 16 years old
Maybe you should have spent more time at school. Then you would have learned how to write.
LOL
can you make a video showing a dog cut please?
@kenfo0 way worse than that
Wow are you serious!!
That guy is looking to get a barber chair .
Ben Bowman since when does that species barber?
way too small and dead to barber chair
Dont give up your night job.
Barber chair
There's another option [one that doesn't take half the fricken day. A 45 degree slice cut, let the hung tree slide off the cut, watch your feet. 10 seconds, done. LMAO
i have been cutting trees for over 25yrs... never seen anything so silly. Was he trying to save the log? He lost me. could of had that thing on the ground in seconds with a 45degree cut at about chest height.
Seen many of those fail
Great technique. Flat earth
It means that apart from all the time explaining what He is doing; He is not dealing with sizable trees with the expectation of financial return from the wood product. Techniques of bringing sawlog product or "roundwood" product down profitably, are not met by the standard of risk factor that this guy conveys. We live in a fallen world. Excuse the pun.
I would give anything to hear this guy break into "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay"
anybody can take down those tiny trees.
Pushing the tree with a lever while standing behind it seems a bit risky. If the tree starts falling so the hinge breaks and then it gets caught on something, the base can move backward very suddenly. It might be safer to stand a bit to one side and drive in a wedge or two instead of using a lever.
Holy smokes...took two naps during this video! Not too terribly bad tho...seen worse! This guy has skill, guess it's the video making portion that's slowing him down. I would have around 20 trees on the ground in that time frame!
This job definitely required rigging and at least three people to help you out; you are far too reckless, David.
James Bryant my son would have had that tree pencil down w his ertle saw in 3 mins
James Bryant come over here and take some big oak w us. I dunno wtf u were doin w that face cut. Hinge was not good . But who am I to say. I ain't there. Next time your toes or feet may become a hinge
That size of a tree wont need a notch or hinch or backcut or whatever,, just some tooth or fingernails :D
I would have dropped it to the left, away from the trees that it got hung up in or I would have dropped one of the offending trees and then dropped it through the hole created by the first tree I removed. You need an opening in the canopy to drop a tree, otherwise you have created a lot of unnecessary work and effort.
2:02 I've lost confidence in this fellow's advice
safer to trim some branches
Irritating camera directional work but otherwise good video.
What's with the goofy utility belt and shit? This guy's got all the bells and whistles, but it took him all day to drop that little puke of a tree. My boss would lose it on me if it took me that long to get rid of that little doinker.
Does he lose it with you because you can't tell time? Video was 7 minutes
Actually I thought this would be a good instructional video until he rolled the tree by pushing. You always pull and never push, because the iron bar may kick back! By pulling you can avoid bad injuries.
Nope, push. the danger is the log falling onto you. Pulling it to you, rather than away, increases the risk.