Condor K-TACT Kukri Survival Knife & Nessmuck Neck Knife - Teaming Up For Chopping, Carving
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2017
- A big blade and a small blade - that's been my jam for a while now. In this video we will look at the Condor K-TACT Kukri and the Neo Necker. Both of these knives did well at the tasks I placed in front of them. Are they the combo I'd go to in the woods? Watch and see.
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Thanks for the video and I should also say it's great to see you answering comments and not afraid to admit that you are still learning, as we all are or at least always should be. I own the original Condor Heavy Duty Kukri and I love it! It's size and weight are obviously not for everyone and I completely agree about the handle size. I was debating on waiting for the K-Tact but I got the original HD for $69.99. So for about half the price I am happy with the leather sheath and wood handle. My current system also includes the Condor Mini Matagi and Mora Eldris.
One last thing everyone should know is Condor has a lifetime guarantee. I even saw a story where a youtuber got a used Bushlore (I think) from eBay that had a hairline crack or defect in the blade and Condor replaced it for him! This is really what made me pull the trigger and buy two Condor knives. Almost a year later now, I am happy I did ;)
Keep up the great vids!
Your welcome,keep'em coming.
Great video. I'm in 100% percent in agreement on the 2 knife system every fixed blade I own is a piggy back system. Sometime it takes time to find a small blade that works or should I say looks good been doing this now for some time 74 now did the first one when I was 9years old ,putting my boy scout knife with my home made blade my dad made for me from a file the piggy back is the only way to go you always have what you need at arms length never a disapointment . Happy trails young man .
Have been eyeballing Condor's kukri for a while. Sheath and handle upgrades are a great value on the K-Tact. Appreciate the review Tim.
I've had this one for about 5 months, and I love it.
Thanks for making this video
Glad to share my experience
Thanx for Sharing. I have the Condor Heavy Duty Kukri, great tool.
I run the K-tac kukri and the Benchmade 200 puuko it's the perfect size of what you were describing and it's 3v steel for a reasonable price
I have the Ktac. Great blade. Heavy heavy duty.
I like the Kershaw Camp 10 and Mora Light My Fire big knife/small knife combo. Thanks for the great vids!
Nice - I've never used the Camp 10 but I hear great things.
Always love your videos.
Thanks man.
I like your philosophy, Your thinking about knife systems, not just the biggest coolest knife
Thanks Carlos. Yeah, cool doesn't always mean it will work.
Regarding using the fire-steel= You can place the fire-steel on the log and strike with the kukri or cut grooves in the spine to engage the fire-steel, in all great blade! I have the previous version of this kukri but i may get this version for the pommel.
Hey Tim nice combo thanks for the for having an awesome channel. Take care and God bless you and your family my friend.
Thanks James.
Awesome vid
Tim. I just finished piggy backing a cold steel pendlton to my SRK I just think lots of manufacturer are missing the boat on piggy backs . the SRK and my nighthawk are the only tactical type knives I own and am happy with both but all the other blades are western style knives my Night hawk is recurve not kukri but it's a beast of a blade did chnge the blade geometry up by the handle for small work .happy trails .
Say Heah Tim, watching this video again, That a Boy showing Combo's. I love that idea, Thanx You. I love Khukuris, Infact I have (2) Khukuris, both are the Himalayan Imports M-43's, a Larger one and I had a Smaller one made so I can carry it in the bush easier. But the Sheath's are inpractratable. I also have a Cold Steel Kukuri Plus, I like the Sheath alot better. Infact I team it with one of my Master Hunter's in the San Mai 3. But then I got an idea to have a Straight Kukuri made, so I can also use it as a large knife, but also to use as a Hatchet, Yup, I named it my Paul'ies Delight. It's awesome. I just got back from our weekender, it shined, although I brought my Council 24" Wood Craft Pack Axe, and my Agawa Canyon 21 Boreal Saw. I love the fact that you are now showing System's. Dilly Dilly.,,.p
I like them both, but i still like that necker more. Great video as always, brother! Blessings!
Original khukuri are made in nepal you should get that
It's got a kydex sheath you don't even need a snap button on it and he says it opens too easy but that's actually a good thing
A machete + a Mora is my preferred combination. Of the many variations of that I've tried, the Cold Steel Jungle Machete + the Mora Kansbol may be my favorite - big chopping power + superb fine carving capability + great ergonomics on both + excellent carry options on both. I've also been enjoying the Cold Steel Mini Pendleton Hunter as an EDC fixed blade, and I think it would make a good smaller blade to pair with a machete. Even though it's only a 3" blade, the handle is just big enough for a full grip and it's really ergonomic, so it ends up being very useful for most fine tasks. I have a Cold Steel Royal Kukri Machete on the way, so I'll see how that combination works out.
Good stuff - thanks for sharing this. I'll be interested to see how the CS one works.
I've only seen positive reviews of it, and unlike the other CS "kukri machetes" it closely approximates a traditional kukri in its shape, so I expect it will have even more chopping power than its predecessors do (and they DO chop). I suspect the companion knife will be more necessary with it though because it doesn't look like it would handle fine tasks well. I'll know for sure when I have it in hand.
I use a ceramic rod for sharpening too.
I've had this one for about 5 months, and I love it.
Those are crap original khukuri is made in nepal you should get that
@@bipinshrestha1039 you're crap kid, go somewhere else with that ignorant opinion shit, YOU get that?
@@bipinshrestha1039 nice try though.
Joel Benoit watch youtube you asshole search khukuri and its history and reply me
Joel Benoit if you dont know the history of khukuri then i ve nothing to say there are so many documentaries about the khukuri that you can watch in youtube
Nice informative video.
Thanks Joel.
Are you able to offer a comparison between this kukris and the tops kukri?
Good video thanks for sharing, Kukri has always looked to be cumbersome... But I'm sure they are a good multifunctional tool.... I've tried a few systems, but I find the one that works for me is the GSO 4.1 (New spec) And the Schrade schf64. I live in a sub arctic environment so the trees aren't very big in diameter, So the Schrade makes a good light chopper for my needs
Eric - good thoughts. The kukri is a bit big for some - I agree.
It's funny that they brought the width of the blade down to 6mm.
I love Condor knives but I have yet to get one with a sharp edge. They tend to need some sharpening, but once you get a cool edge on them, I'd put them up against much of the more expensive blades. As for any mini Kukri designs, I personally wouldn't waste any time on them. If I wanted a good detail knife, I'd just pair up my chopper, in this case the kukri, with something like a Mora or traditional Buck folder. But then again, every one has their own system that works great for them.
Yeah - that seems to be an issue for Condor - not sending well-sharpened knives.
What is the brand of sharpening steel you used? I haven't seen one marketed with the angle guides yours has.
Tim there's an easy fix in many cases for the loose kydex I've fixed some sheaths for people with the same problem . Just by making a larger leather washer using a chacago screw in the rivet hole allowing the washer to apply pressure on the kydex seems to have done the trick . Also on the kukri sheath don't like the snaps on the out side of the dangler to easy to get snagged and opened need to be flip so there on the inside of the belt it's a pain to unsnap but that's the idea not to un snap have also done this for friends in the past . Happy Trails.
Thanks Mike.
Mike Boone A larger , leather washer??? Kinda confused, but you do have my attention though....Can any bigger washer work? Thanks in advance 👍
I was going to order it if it was 5/16 the description says 6mm?? Did they change it or is that because of the distal taper?
At first when I saw it (2:16) I could'nt believe my eyes. So I watched it in slo-mo again... and big LOL :D
Those 2-step degrees are not meant for your knife spine. Those are for the edge lol. Who tought you to use that honing steel lol?
Prefer something like the ESEE CR2.5 as a small knife. It gives you a full grip in your hand with a smaller blade. Three finger grips get uncomfortable with long term use.
What's better tops kurkri or this one
Thanks for great review. I’m going to chose between this and bk 21. Honestly I like this one appearance way more than bk 21. But I kinda guess bk 21 performs better. Would you please throw a neck to neck competition review between these two beasts. Would be even better if you add one or two competitors of your own choice. Thanks in advance. 🔪
I'll be doing a one-tool option video in the future - that'll touch on some philosophy behind how I see the systems I choose.
Any Idea what the heat treatment on these is?
Tim, just a hint, if you want to keep a good edge on that nice kukri, you should check out a few videos on 'recurve edge sharpening', there is a surprising amount of technique to sharpening them
Vain Minotaur Great. Thanks for the tip.
What did you use for a sharpening rod?
hey bro where can I get the neo neck knife with a kydex sheath ??
The knack knife how do I get it
on the sheath yank the snap and sew in a velco
Or simply replace the snap with a "pull the dot" type snap
A mora companion and this would be a great combination the mora is razor sharp great for carving and is not to big
Cool Vid. My system is JX5 and Jessmuk C Chris makes some good knives.
Nice - you like the JX5?
EverydayTacticalVids absolutely best chopper I've handled
Balance for the kukri ?
Say Heah Tim, Infact I just had a matching Combo made, Yup I posted them on my Google Plus, Lemme know what you think, Ok. Dilly Dilly.,,.p
Where is the fuller on the kukhuri?
ESEE Ashley Game Knife is a far superior for a Nessmuk. Long handle and incredibly comfortable to skin a buck, so small tasks like that are a breeze also. Yeah, years too late 😂
Say Heah Tim, That a boy. Yeah, showing Combo's is a great idea. But now make them match. Yeah, maybe same handle color, you know male them look like a set. I like buying my knives like that. Infact, with my Large H. I. M-43 Khukuri, I easily can go with several of my knives that all have black handles like my Vintage Cold Steel Sisu, or even my Mora Garberg. Yeah, I know Combo's would sell, Put that in the suggestion box.,,.p
I like the knives but something I want to point out... Last thing I want around my neck possibly going through thick underbrush and possibly tripping and falling is a knife... Just my opinion
When are you going to show these in use? Love your channel
Link Us To Bushcraft they are useless, get the real deal z@torablades and choose one around 600 gramms max.
i love the design and use of the kukri. but why is the riccaso so long? whi isnt the cutting edge closer to the handle?
Andreas Wittur Good question. I will ask Joe flowers next time I see him.
What do you mean ,designed by ?
I have a small knife with a leather sheath that I ran paracord through the belt loop so I could wear it as a neck knife, the handle is up and blade tip is down, maybe this idea would work for you?
Kaylynn Strain That's the way I wear my Mora Companion .....I've been wearing it like that for 3 years & have gotten very use to it ! (very convenient) 😊
Love Joe he good people, I enjoy hanging out with him during the year. But decaf Joe 😅
I've been having thoughts of deploying this Kuk as a bushwhacker, while clearing storm damage. Did you make any attempts at trail clearing?
Mine arrived recently. Not sure what you are looking for but I'll say this. Its much heavier than a machete. So if you need a machete, get one because it will fatigue you less than using this, heavier tool. However, this kukri is built like a tank. With a sharpening stone, a fine bastard file and honing rod, you can do anything with it. The front* section of the blade works like an axe. Nearer the handle you can profile it like a razor. I think this is one of the rare knife designs that you could use to chop down a tree, and then later cut the cotton you are using to darn your socks. Its a brilliant tool.
Im from the UK, and our Gurkha regiments are recruited from Nepal, and they carry kukris into battle. There is a lot of myth and propaganda about the legendary kukri design, but now I have my hands on one I understand that they dont carry them instead of a knife just for show. Its basically a compromise between an axe, machete and knife. Because the blade is profiled differently at different points, it is one of the rare tools that you can use to fell a small tree, AND use for normal knife tasks.
Honestly dude, mine is a thing of beauty. Heavy? sure. But its lighter than carrying a hatchet, camp knife, and craft knife.
I appreciate your video and the information. I respect the effort. I will say that so many people just hack away when chopping hitting the edge time and again into the same spot on the wood, essentially making the same cut over and over again. That brach and the other work you did there could have been done in half the time it took you simply because you didn't cut and reverse cut, additionally I could just see the dirt kicking up and making that blade dull with every strike. You cant really evaluate a chopper with piece of wood bouncing on the ground. Every chopping tool needs the wood being chopped to be properly on some support. just saying. The toollooks half as effective as im sure it is and the hand that does that work against loose material is twice as tired as it needs to be.
The neo what now?
I don't get how you could sharpen at 20deg then 15deg. Wouldn't it be the other way around, the bevel at 15 deg then micro bevel at 20deg?
Yeah - good call - changing that. I'm learning.
Ah, me too, I'm just repeating what I've read guys on sharpening forums write about. They are pretty keen on their micro bevels. I've done a similar thing before where I had a feeling I was putting a convex on the edge bevel with my technique and was making the actual edge steeper that what I intended/making it less slicey. So I dropped my sharpening angle to compensate and it seemed to create the desired angle at the "micro bevel" of sorts.
EverydayTacticalVids it would chop even better if you kept the convex edge...the way you sharpned it took the convext off. You should also sharpen with a whetdtone set going from 600-1000 grit instead of a rod
Hasn't Condor already a similar looking Kukri? What are the differences between those?
Phreak just the handle material and sheath. Wood vs micarta, then kydex vs leather sheath
Handle is micarta not wood, sheath is kydex not micarta plus a steel pommel. Other than that the same.
As he stated in the video, Alan Kay redesigned this one, since he liked the original one so much.
Two things first the positive the kukri looks very good especially the handle with the flare. The little knife have a little to small handle for me. The sheaths can be made tighter with a hairdryer. Both knives i think would be better with a very slack convex grind near zero grind with a sturdy convex at the very edge for example making the kukri at 0.025 behind the edge. And the little one 0.010 behind the edge
The second thing and dont mean this rude but why sharpen at 20 then 15??? You are setting the bevel at 20 then just basically knocking the shoulders a little of at 15 since its a more shallow angle.
Would be much better to thin the kukri at say 12 or 15 per side then have the very apex of the edge at 20 per side or maake it convex for example with the work sharp blade grinding attachment.
Third you have a great channel i really like and good truthfull reviews
Keep up the great work brother 😊
Love the feedback - good comments and I'll change the edge to that angle. I'm learning - thanks!
EverydayTacticalVids no thank you for a great channel and we could all learn something new everyday 😊
Ever considered the condor neonessmuk? Looks like a great knife but i haven't seen anything about it anywhere.
bluebakuredkoi It is hard to locate it seems.
EverydayTacticalVids been seeng them on knife center. I might pick one up at some point, but it seems like no one else bought one and i can't help but wonder if they know somthing i don't lol.
'Cleaning a fish after you catch it'? Ever tried cleaning one before you catch it? LOL. Honing is not sharpening. I do fully agree on the system you are talking about. For me a small camp knife as main knife and a larger one for heavy duty tasks.
The kukri I think is overrated and really not that useful in the bush. I do like the shape and history of the blade but that's something completely different from being useful.
Ha - good call on the fish. Well-played!
+EverydayTacticalVids. I'm a smart ass like that ;) LOL. But I do like your channel.
Do you have a link for your sharpening rod?
I think I got this one at Walmart actually.
Can that sheath be converted to be left handed
Yes
Yes, Condor kukri handle is too big for people with small-medium size hand, and this knife is heavier than some hatche or handaxe... But axe just work much better for chopping...Kukri just can't beat a dry hard wood
What is your opinion of this one compared to the Tops Kukri?
Both work but I really like the TOPS one a lot.
Could a kukri replace an axe? I was thinking of getting an axe for my emergency system but now I see this knife and am very impressed... though I'm a woman with rather small hands but I can't imagine the handle is much bigger around then an axe handle.
A kukri is a good chopper, but it's not going to be able to do what an axe does.
Thanks! Plus it's just impressive looking!
What was the sharpener you used?
Just a generic one from Walmart
Glad you mentioned the big handle. I have small trump hands that make large handles awkward
Did you say necker
torra are the suppliers of original nepalese khukuri. but you wont mind what kind it is, if its doing its job well
Llo kiero uno
What do you prefer the condor kukri or the tops?
TOPS - it's one of my favorites of all time.
@@EverydayTacticalVids ok ill get that one then. Theres a hundred dollars in the difference. So I was curious. I like the idea of the tops one because its medium sized. I just hate the nylon sheath.
@@Christopherjamesmurphy21 I love the TOPS one - here are 2 videos I made about it: ruclips.net/video/L7qeOA55ys0/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/57eLCz0lrt8/видео.html
Just saying: geometrically, if you sharpen something to 20 degrees, and then switch to a 15 degree angle, the stone will not be touching the edge at the 15 degree angle -- it will be doing nothing. EDIT: Also, at time 2:22 you're holding the knife vs stone UPSIDE DOWN, lol. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean to you, but you should look into the topic of knife sharpening a little further. There are LOTS of good youtube videos discussing it. Thanks for the video, in any case. I'm interested in the knife, and I think you made a good choice with it.
You guys should know where khukuri was originally from its from nepal if you google it you will get the answer and if you wanna buy you should buy nepalese khukuri which hand made
love their knives but they never come sharp either.
Most knives come dull to the door. It costs time and thus money to sharpen dcently. Youll pay more for a sharp knife.
Nou got 1000 linds of khukuri
awww, discontinued
Its back buddy, amazon has the green and tan models for around $120-130
condors kydex suuuuucks...they are great with leather but el Salvador is not a kydex country.....thanks tim
not the kukri please take a note the original name of this knife is khukuri
KUKRI KNIVES BETTER COME WITH LARGE HANDLES TO PREVENT THE USER'S HAND FROM EASILY SLIPPING DOWN INTO THE BLADE. THIS COULD END IN A CATASTROPHE CONSIDERING THE SHAPE OF THE BLADE AND THE DEEP CUTTING IT PRODUCES.
Por lo menos la madera podrida la corta
This blade is 1075... How about 1095 vs 1075 let the war begin.
they both rust would have been much better it they used titanium. reduced the weight, eliminate corrosion, and the edge retention would have been huge.
Reduce the weight on a chopper. Ok I will leave some time to think about that whole line of reasoning.
Also titanium would make these much more expensive.
Just who designed yhe original khukuri ??????? U sound BRITISH now
If you have small/medium size hand, DON'T BUY THIS KUKRI
Silly design, doesnt really do anything particularly well, its heavy, weird looking and loads of other knives do things better.
8mm thick? ... shut up and take my money!
Learn about your knife and its configuration before you review it. You don't straight chop with a kukri, you follow through letting the curve do some work.
you need more skills and less reviews !