Nice practice. Agree. The release is crucial, and so the different ways to do it. I just can't "spread the tiger's tail" although i've seen a few compound shooters in my club performing a similar release gesture. I' ll try that, for the alignment. To me, leaning a little "in to the bow" helps with that, and with the aiming as well. Thanks for the videos, keep them coming.
I can definitely see that I have worse shots when my draw hand goes down and out, compared to pulled back in a straight line. I just need to find what works best for me.
@KTBIOM exactly, and the elbow must follow the scapula movement "into the back" (in a straight line). Also i've noticed that when the bow hand looses a little in order to allow the natural spin of the bow after the release, it is more effective than the wrist just forcing the proverbial khatra. As you said, we have to find what's work for us. And keep practicing.
@@DanielPadilla-w7i Yes. The annoying thing is that I am not aware of what I am doing when I shoot. It's only later that I can see what i have done, and why I missed.
Hello I started Korean bow a month ago, so I joined to a local branch of Korea National Archery Association near my home. I am following their course now, it means that I have been pulling a bow without an arrow so far and will keep on doing it for a month more. After that, if I don't hit their expectation, I will have to do that for some time more. I like your videos, trying to develop yourself with Korean Bow. I want to have my own Korean bow soon too.
@@이승표-k9l Thank you for your comment. I wish I could attend a KTA range and have proper instruction. Proper training is important but it's more fun to shoot. I can only learn from experimentation, trial and error. Good luck with your journey 🍀
nice shot! I'm also practicing 온깍지 at the moment but for the love of my life, I can't ensure accuracy with it at the moment. I'm currently practicing with tied arrow(주살) for it.
@@bildogaggins8196 Thanks. I had a similar experience. Moving my hand back felt unnatural and forced at first. I was moving from the elbow. With the heavier bow, I am moving from my back and that feels more natural. I never really knew what people meant about engaging back muscles, until I tried to pull 78#. Arm strength only goes so far.
@@KTBIOM the instruction i got was, at full draw, transfer all your strength and tension to your back(both bow arm and draw arm) and "Spread open the bow" My issue is that if i do that, im afraid i might overdraw and arrow tip might escape my thumb
@bildogaggins8196 Longer arrows? Use your bow thumb/ index as a clicker? Draw, draw, draw and as soon as you can feel the collar of the point, release. I accidentally bought some 30.5" shaft (32" overall ) 350 spine arrows and I risk overdrawing these if I use them. This is where the finger / clicker thing came about.
Watching back for what works and what doesn't is really useful. I can't find it but there a guy who did some slow mo on the releases and that Tiger Tail style one was what didn't collapse for him, seeing as something similar is common to the Korean, Japanese and Manchu I'm sure there's some biomechanics into it. The other top roll closed release does definitely work but it think it's linked to how far you are through the draw and your alignment expansion potential, with the people pulling 31-32 (generalising its all relative) having some room to expand the arm, when you've pushed very near your max the only thing left that can expand is moving the arm out. Throwing it probably means it's consistent. Then there draw weights, you can do things with a 30-40lb bow that starts to change @80 and above. I'm not an expert just a RUclips student.
Thanks for the comments. This is a video I watch and rewatch. I've also recently bought the book. ruclips.net/video/dON9iz1lgwk/видео.htmlsi=g8MCXdbhwSE6w1ze
@KTBIOM I have definitely watched the videos repeatedly myself. Like to figure out why and how certain things work, but sometimes you also just have to try them. Don't yet have the book and I probably should.
I am sharing my journey, both the good bits and the bad bits. The good bits, because if I couldn't see myself hitting targets or shooting the heavy bow, I'd doubt i could do it. The bad bits, because they help me learn and stimulates discussion, and perhaps other people see themselves with similar issues. Archery is a very multifaceted thing to master.
@mrln247 Yes, people speak very highly about it. Ashamed to say I haven't got past contents page. It's been quite busy lately. I find I learnt something new with every new watch, and after every mistake I identify. Practice is good. If you also get to identify your mistakes even better.
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Nice practice. Agree. The release is crucial, and so the different ways to do it. I just can't "spread the tiger's tail" although i've seen a few compound shooters in my club performing a similar release gesture. I' ll try that, for the alignment. To me, leaning a little "in to the bow" helps with that, and with the aiming as well. Thanks for the videos, keep them coming.
I can definitely see that I have worse shots when my draw hand goes down and out, compared to pulled back in a straight line.
I just need to find what works best for me.
@KTBIOM exactly, and the elbow must follow the scapula movement "into the back" (in a straight line). Also i've noticed that when the bow hand looses a little in order to allow the natural spin of the bow after the release, it is more effective than the wrist just forcing the proverbial khatra. As you said, we have to find what's work for us. And keep practicing.
@@DanielPadilla-w7i Yes. The annoying thing is that I am not aware of what I am doing when I shoot. It's only later that I can see what i have done, and why I missed.
@@KTBIOM Absolutely. It's a slow process, but a very fun and humbling journey at the same time.
Hello I started Korean bow a month ago, so I joined to a local branch of Korea National Archery Association near my home. I am following their course now, it means that I have been pulling a bow without an arrow so far and will keep on doing it for a month more. After that, if I don't hit their expectation, I will have to do that for some time more.
I like your videos, trying to develop yourself with Korean Bow. I want to have my own Korean bow soon too.
@@이승표-k9l Thank you for your comment. I wish I could attend a KTA range and have proper instruction.
Proper training is important but it's more fun to shoot. I can only learn from experimentation, trial and error.
Good luck with your journey 🍀
nice shot! I'm also practicing 온깍지 at the moment but for the love of my life, I can't ensure accuracy with it at the moment. I'm currently practicing with tied arrow(주살) for it.
@@bildogaggins8196 Thanks. I had a similar experience. Moving my hand back felt unnatural and forced at first.
I was moving from the elbow.
With the heavier bow, I am moving from my back and that feels more natural.
I never really knew what people meant about engaging back muscles, until I tried to pull 78#.
Arm strength only goes so far.
@@KTBIOM the instruction i got was, at full draw, transfer all your strength and tension to your back(both bow arm and draw arm) and "Spread open the bow"
My issue is that if i do that, im afraid i might overdraw and arrow tip might escape my thumb
@bildogaggins8196 Longer arrows? Use your bow thumb/ index as a clicker?
Draw, draw, draw and as soon as you can feel the collar of the point, release.
I accidentally bought some 30.5" shaft (32" overall ) 350 spine arrows and I risk overdrawing these if I use them. This is where the finger / clicker thing came about.
@@KTBIOM that's the thing. im already using my thumb as clicker. when i touch tip with thumb, that's the sign that i have reached 만작
Watching back for what works and what doesn't is really useful.
I can't find it but there a guy who did some slow mo on the releases and that Tiger Tail style one was what didn't collapse for him, seeing as something similar is common to the Korean, Japanese and Manchu I'm sure there's some biomechanics into it.
The other top roll closed release does definitely work but it think it's linked to how far you are through the draw and your alignment expansion potential, with the people pulling 31-32 (generalising its all relative) having some room to expand the arm, when you've pushed very near your max the only thing left that can expand is moving the arm out. Throwing it probably means it's consistent.
Then there draw weights, you can do things with a 30-40lb bow that starts to change @80 and above.
I'm not an expert just a RUclips student.
Thanks for the comments.
This is a video I watch and rewatch. I've also recently bought the book.
ruclips.net/video/dON9iz1lgwk/видео.htmlsi=g8MCXdbhwSE6w1ze
@KTBIOM I have definitely watched the videos repeatedly myself.
Like to figure out why and how certain things work, but sometimes you also just have to try them.
Don't yet have the book and I probably should.
I am sharing my journey, both the good bits and the bad bits.
The good bits, because if I couldn't see myself hitting targets or shooting the heavy bow, I'd doubt i could do it.
The bad bits, because they help me learn and stimulates discussion, and perhaps other people see themselves with similar issues.
Archery is a very multifaceted thing to master.
@mrln247 Yes, people speak very highly about it. Ashamed to say I haven't got past contents page. It's been quite busy lately.
I find I learnt something new with every new watch, and after every mistake I identify.
Practice is good. If you also get to identify your mistakes even better.
@@KTBIOM I did find the other video, I thought it was an interesting watch.
ruclips.net/video/8J79yoMJUeQ/видео.htmlsi=yxr3qSkTNBQ2548B