You can absolutely and clearly tell that the actor playing Kolrami was having an absolute ball playing this character. He is having fun and not taking it too seriously and at the same time taking his role seriously enough. His character and performance is kind of unusual and stands out by star trek standards and at the same time fits in perfectly. Great performance and a great character. Great Job! Credit to the actor, writer and directors! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
With such a reputation, they're lucky they never ran into the Klingons, regardless of who would win in any such conflict they would DEFINITELY be willing to test that reputation.
or the Romulan's, while they were probably weren't as overtly hostile as the Klingon's they still were a threat species not to be trifled with. If the Zakdorn had something that the Romulan's needed then they would have most certainly gone after it.
they were probably directing the mirandas to the frontline to get massacred so the dominion would underestimate federation skill and let their guards down :P
Likely overseeing fleet deployment from Starfleet command. They're big picture strategists, not ship to ship combat experts. That's what men like Picard, Riker, Worf, O'Brien, and Sisko are for.
You'd think these guys wouldn't be such dicks. Diplomacy is an important part of strategy. Getting everyone pissed at you, in the words of Tony Stark, is not a great plan.
Can we please for a moment appreciate the acting of Roy Brocksmith as Mr. Kolrami. Outstanding. You love to hate this character immediately and want to punch him in the face. Great!
Absolutely! It’s obvious that he was having an absolute ball playing this character. Amazing performance and complete commitment and dedication to the character and story and universe
"For over 9 millenia..." Think about that. Over 9 000 years. Before humans had even invented farming, they were already on the galactic scene and regarded as military geniuses.
Wasn’t the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago though? Still it probably wouldn’t be farming as we know it, and large human civilisations would have yet to exist.
@@AndrewMakesPuns I may be entirely wrong, as I used Wikipedia's timeline of prehistory for this analogy... it says 12 000 years ago has the first signs of domesticated goats, 9 000 years ago has the first signs of farming (and herding) in south Asia. might just be difference of the definition of "farm"; agricultural vs animals.
Prior to the Federation making it onto the scene, technological development (especially warpdrive) was glacially slow. United Earth did in 100 years, what took Klingons, Vulcans or Romulans a milennium or more. But still, that might even put them ahead of the TNG era in technology.
@@Calmputer before the development of settled agriculture (farming) there were nomadic pastoralists who moved with their herds. We can still see nomadic herding peoples today eg the Sami in Finland, some Inuit in Canada and various groups in Africa.
You know they have the holodeck. a device that can produce completely realistic simulations of any situation imaginable. Instead of using this wonderous training tool they retrofit the enterprise and an old star cruiser for a round of spaceship paintball for tactical training. Maybe if they used the tools at their disposal they wouldn't be caught with their trousers around their ankles when a non simulated threat showed up. I mean heck all of the comand staff went through the Kobayashi Maru, they know how realistic a simulation can be without actualy flying around and shooting.
The only excuse I can think of is maybe they wanted most or all of the crew to be part of the exercise, not just the bridge crew. I know the holodecks can get away with a lot of stuff, but can they fit hundreds of people at once? However, even if holodeck capacity was a limitation they could build a larger training facility somewhere to get around that, so it still doesn't make much sense. It would explain why they can't use the onboard holodecks though.
@@samsquanch2666 I mean, there is also the issue of why tf they are doing this in an area they even can be intercepted... If the point of this isn't intimidation of a neighboring power, at which point they'd want to be prepared in case of response, it makes no sense to do it at the edge of federation space in the first place
When learning to drive a car at 16, the school administration started with simulations, then controlled foot-on-the-brake range driving, then light use of the gas pedal, then finally on the streets, before being tested to receive one's license. This is similar. One would assume holodeck simulations were already done for this purpose, and now actual real-world exercises are next on the list.
I wonder how much his reputation suffered after Recall Corporation went bankrupt because his clients went crazy. He played the president of Recall Corporation in the original Total Recall.
The entire episode was trying to show how smug and arrogant Kolrami was. Except he wasn't, but was surrounded by the most smug and arrogant crew this side of the people who worked on Discovery and Picard.
@@mechanomics2649 Except anyone with a functioning brain can tell that his arguments are more than valid. That one stupid line from Riker says it all. "I prefer brains over brawns." Hey Cmdr. Dumbass there's a word for that, STRATEGY! You know the thing I'm here to help you improve on?
@@jje984 true it has militaristic core values, but gives more power to the freedom of it's population. It by all means only acts in peacetime as explorers and mediators between worlds. The size of the galaxy is meant to accommodate passengers more than any direct military purposes.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where it was some other huge organization of ships with a strict command structure that was fighting all those battles against the adversaries of the Federation such as the Klingons, Romulans and the Borg...
@@aylam9667 a. 'Peacetime?' Then what is the whole obsession with Starfleet constantly policing the Neutral Zone with its most armed warships? b. Guess what the current US military does during 'peacetime.' It is also constantly engaged in diplomatic, humanitarian as well as scientific and exploratory missions and yet nobody pretends they aren't the weaponized international enforcement arm of the US government. c. I am also not sure about the whole 'more power and freedom' in Starfleet. Think not just TNG officers, but the average crew. True, on actual naval ships during deployment crew have tighter living quarters but most of the time around bases military life is no less free to enjoy social and family life while in the service than Starfleet. Most of TNG focuses on commissioned officer life, which even in real militaries has always been more comfortable, even luxurious.
Yeah, it is either one of those wishful-thinking statements like when a US president says "This is not who we are." or the writers had difficulty distinguishing Starfleet and the Federation there. Or maybe Picard refuses to call it a military institution because it is not purely one and not with a primary focus on one. But considering the similarities in conduct, it is a bit denialist. Possibly influenced by a desire to retcon Roddenberry's 'nostalgic' influences.
@@tjwparso I have subscribed - no worries there. As good as the picture quality on your videos is, I find I have to grab headphones to be able to hear any of your videos. Is it possible to check the audio levels on any future videos please? Will continue to watch either way, this is aimed as constructive feedback and not an entitled moan! :)
@@superflibblefull Thank you, someone else has already mentioned this, I have never noticed as I almost always have headphones on... I plan to make the new videos louder as clearly atleast two people have noticed it and required headphones. Thanks for the feedback :)
Within several years or so of Picard's arrogant statement about Starfleet not being an "military organization", Starfleet would have to deal with 2 significant Borg incursions, a major war with the Dominion and its Alpha Quadrant allies, and a brief but damaging conflict with the Klingons. In other words, as much as Picard wanted Star Fleet to be nothing more but a bunch of scout ships, it always had two missions--exploration and war.
The irony was that the Federation has its origins in war. It was the Romulans paranoia over the humans gift of diplomacy and creating communities on an interstellar scale that hastened the need of the existing coalition of planets to become a more permanent government.
Star Fleet isn´t a purely military organisation it´s also a diplomatic and Explorer Organization, which part is on the forefront depends on the circumstances
@@thodan467 Indeed, and in that respect it is similar to the 19th century U.S. Navy, which did all three duties. But Picard didn't seem to understand that--or perhaps more correctly, the writers didn't understand that.
Let's not forget, at the very moment Picard was saying so, the Federation still hadn't technically signed an armistice with the Cardassian Union, and were thus technically still at war! And I know, at this point in the course of development the Cardassians and the war didn't exist, but it's still amusing to think about his statements in an in-universe context.
"Starfleet is not a military organization." Yes, that's why you lost 39 of 40 ships at Wolf 359. Had Starfleet not militarized and constructed dedicated warships, you would have been trampled by the Dominion and all living under Founder rule.
@@absolutez3r019 Probably not the Dominion. Jem'Hadar ship's and weapons are something that neither the Borg or the Federation was equipped to deal with. Adaptation would be effective if the Dominion fleet where to ceasefire and bord the ship giving the cube plenty of time to recover and adapt. But more destructive is the willingness of the Jem'hadar to ram the invading ship. Which they would do en mass. And they more ships with bigger arsinals, and more powerful weapon systems than the Klingons or the Federation.
@brucechmiel7964 The more you use energy weapons against the borg , the faster they adapt. The borg can also board dominion ships since they can transport through shields. And once on board, they'll start assimilating tech and personnel.
@@absolutez3r019 I don’t think it would be that easy. Remember when the Enterprise D first encounter the board cube, the first volley of phaser fire nearly rendered the ship 40% inoperable. Naturally, it’s because this will be the first time of work at ever experienced anything like federation technology. Now we are talking about a first encounter with a fleet of kill first don’t ask questions Jem’hadar warships with a suicidal cult-like aggression. Their crews are almost entirely armed with melee weapons things the board camp adapt to and in close quarters this be the first weapon that they will use against them. In the event of the ship could be over run the Jem’hadar would simply ram it into the cube. The dominion does not value life the way the Federation does.
@@brucechmiel7964 Jem'hard are willing to die in battle, but vorta are not. Vorta will withdraw their larger cruiser if they think the battle is going south. Even if they can destroy a single cube, the biological and technological data the Borg acquired will make them even harder the repel on the next encounter. Melee combat is the last place even the Jem'hadar wants to be in. It only takes a moment to get injected with nano-probes. A fallen comrade, now becomes your enemy. Head-to-head combat, the Dominion will fair no better in the long run. I think their only hope would be a bio-weapon, some thing that attacks the organic parts of a drone
Picard was wilfully blind when he said Starfleet was a purely exploratory organisation, its mandate is also the defense of the UFP which is military in nature.
David Knowles Then where did the idea come from, if you're talking about conformation or lack thereof? Or, depending, how did the theory come to be, like, what was it based on?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Not sure what you are going on about. If the Federation or sections 31 consulted the Zakdornians on how to defend themselves from the dominion, the Zakdornians could have suggested they kill off the changelings, using odo to deliver a pathogen. With DS9 being turn into a heavily fortified station to defend the Alpha quadrant from reprisals. The Zakdornians would therefore know their was no need to intervene in the war as the Federation and Alpha quadrant has already won.
@@DavidKnowles0 It's just, the suggestion that the Zakdornians got involved is oddly specific, so I was curious on how that idea came to be, and what I said next when I said 'depending' came from the potential idea that it was a theory in the fandom and you didn't come up with it yourself.
Make it a game and they will love it. 😏 Worf and Data discussing psywar via reputation propaganda is also delightful Trek gold. Are they so good that the reputation is deserved or just so good in scheming? And if no one has challenged them for that long, it would not be in their interest since then they would lack realistic feedback. If they tought that was alright, they would be unwise - a mistake situated at a more profound level than grand strategy. P.S.: One thing that Kolrami and Bruce Lee might have in common. 😉
@@victorconway444 Ah, right. "wehr" from "abwehren" and "wehrhaft", alternative to "Verteidigung". As for my second point: "US Department of Defense", more accurately the "War Ministry" (actual term used in lesser-BS times), more accurately the "Ministry of Imperial Growth", rarely ever defending due to a lack of need to.
@@victorconway444 How was the "Wehrmacht" sarcastically 'funnier shit' than what followed? It's just one of so many examples all throughout history and to this very day of a norm of calling attack "defense".
The exercise scenario involving the disconnection of the Enterprise's phaser system for the usage of modified laser-pulse beams to simulate weapons fire is needlessly complicated. Why not simply ramp down phaser power to 1/100th strength as was done in "The Ultimate Computer"? This was a very obvious plot device to set up the later crippling of the Enterprise being unprepared for the Ferengi attack and a clumsy piece of writing.
My point was rather, how the hell did a Ferengi ship manage to sneak up on a Galaxy Class Starfleet ship in the middle of an exercise? Was nobody watching this exercise and checking that there was no interference? Did Starfleet not arrange this exercise to be held at a location deep within Federation territory where it would be safe from incidents like that?
@@wjzav1971 You have to remember that Worf earlier had tricked the Enterprise's sensors to believe they were under attack from a Romulan Warbird, so they thought that the Ferengi D'Kora was another sensor ghost placed by Worf. I do agree that this exercise should have had some kind of security, however it may have taken place deep in Federation territory. Also I don't believe the Federation, is able to monitor 100% of it's territory as it's a coalition of worlds along with unpopulated star systems like this one that the exercise was taking place in.
Even if the Zakdorn's reputation for being the best strategic minds is warranted, I think the Borg would still win, due to their sheer numbers and their innate ability to adapt to almost any situation. And if the Borg assimilate so much as a single Zakdorn, the Borg will assimilate all of the strategic knowledge that the Zakdorn had and use it to their own advantage.
*I am envisioning a cool plot for that:* One of the greatest Zakdornian strategists heroically sacrifices himself by allowing himself to be assimilated. Then the united computing power of the Borg collective processes their collected strategic wisdom and based on that they come to the conclusion that they could never win against the Zakdornians because that level of skill always stalemates itself, and so the Borg retreat and never bother them again. 😄 (And then Starfleet is very angry with the Zakdornians and coerce them into a lifelong advisory duty. ... Which they of course have forseen and use as an opportunity.)
The reputation means that they haven’t had to lose resources in war for the past 9000 years - which is of great benefit to their society. The reputation may or may not continue to be well founded, but it's hardly true to say it 'means nothing'.
Gene Roddenberry was always a bit schizophrenic when it came to his view of Starfleet. He outfitted his TNG star ships with weapons as well as families. But then, his idea of utopia was always inconsistent.
Can't expect one man to have a perfectly thought out utopian future in his head, even if he did it wouldn't be everyone's idea of perfection and they were limited by networks/audiences/technology of the time
Do you even know what it means to be schizophrenic? Also, I find his vision in Star Trek to be extremely accurate. We're just not ready for it yet. And this takes place during a time of space exploration and extraterrestrial interaction, so of course everything Humanity in Star Trek encounters is different and even potentially dangerous in a number of ways. What did you expect?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Yes, I know exactly what schizophrenic means. The conventional meaning is different from the medical diagnosis. In general use, it means something inconsistent or contradictory. Roddenberry was very inconsistent in his vision of the future by the time TNG was made. Is a starship a military or civilian vessel? Is there commerce or not? Is the future highly industrialized or agrarian?
On one of the seasonal TNG DVD behind-the-scenes, someone conveyed an argument between Roddenberry and a writer about the nitty-gritty details of a tricorder. Roddenberry eventually shut the argument down by saying, "A tricorder's purpose is to move the plot forward!" After hearing that, it now seems silly to argue and nitpick. At the end of the day, they were tasked to produce a quality and entertaining television show at the cost of working _extremely_ long hours, not to craft the perfect blueprint for an infallible future.
I call BS on the notion that for 9000 years, nobody was willing to test the Zagdorns supposed tactical superiority. All it takes is one commander who is arrogant enough, crazy enough or confident enough to try it. There is only so long you can coast on reputation alone.
Even though Kolrami was a douche, he's right that Starfleet captains should be well-versed in combat tactics rather than purely diplomatic. But then this was during Gene's era where everything Federation was peaceful and happy, when really, it shouldn't have been.
".............then why am I here?" because your jowls makes for such jovial commentary and enhancement to overall comity. Oh, yeah, I crushed Kolrami in Strategema in just 12867 moves in 2353.
This episode os much more about their teamwork, improvisation, and Riker leadership style. Although there is Wesley Crusher ridiculous magical possession of a very dangerous substance for a school assignment 😅
@@christopherg2347 look, man, antimatter in star trek is pretty much like plutonium for us nowadays: extremely dangerous and need special procedures and equipment. A fraction of a gram could potentially kill lots of people. There is no way that would be unaccounted for.
Jesus, "not a military organization" my ass. If one of your duties is the use of armed force to defend the Federation and her interests, you are by definition a military organization.
so police are a military organization? then why are liberals screaming when cops get hand me down rifles and body armor as well file cabinets to replace equipment rather then have the military throw useable stuff into the bonfire?
@@toomanyaccounts I think you just described why we "liberals scream" about military surplus being given to the police. Same reason as giving military weapons to the taliban or a foreign government, it's for "peacekeeping" obviously.
@@wyettastone mil surplus to the police is stuff like filing cabinets, medical supplies that would go into the incentrator even though it is usable. do you not understand that the police depts often have rifles that are decades old and needing replacement? to outfit a police dept with replacement is few hundred thousand to a million dollars? why not hand them used but still very serviceable rifles and handguns that the military would otherwise turn into a crusher? Many police depts require their personal to purchase their own guns and equipment such as body armor because they don't have the equipment due to morons like you. FYI military surplus used to be put on the civ market where taxpayers interested in collecting gear or that could use it for lawful purposes would buy it with a percentage going back to uncle sam. You liberals are what is wrong with America. High schools used to have shooting clubs even New York city had handgun ranges for high school clubs. funny how violence went up and school shootings occured when those clubs were gotten rid of and schools became gun free zones
wtf do you mean that the reputation means nothing? It means that they have not had to fight in forever because no one is willing to try, that means an insane amount.
"Starfleet is not a military organization"
The Borg definitely proved that at Wolf 359...
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Well not until Q played a little shenanigans with the timeline during Star Trek Borg (with of course an assist from Cadet Furlong)
Yet there ships are armed to the point there on par with actual battle cruisers from races who enjoy fighting.
laughs in STO
You can absolutely and clearly tell that the actor playing Kolrami was having an absolute ball playing this character. He is having fun and not taking it too seriously and at the same time taking his role seriously enough. His character and performance is kind of unusual and stands out by star trek standards and at the same time fits in perfectly. Great performance and a great character. Great Job! Credit to the actor, writer and directors! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
he actually reminds me a bit of the Joker played by Hugh Ledger
@@blackwater4100 you probably meant Heath Ledger - lol. True I can see how he could look like that Joker
I remember this guy from total recall he was that doctor that got shot in the head.
With such a reputation, they're lucky they never ran into the Klingons, regardless of who would win in any such conflict they would DEFINITELY be willing to test that reputation.
or the Romulan's, while they were probably weren't as overtly hostile as the Klingon's they still were a threat species not to be trifled with. If the Zakdorn had something that the Romulan's needed then they would have most certainly gone after it.
If anything, the Klingons would have been excited to go up against the supposed greatest tacticians of the Galaxy, hoping for a good fight
@@wjzav1971 exactly just to test themselves.
@@waveman0 Romulans. Klingons.
@@waveman0 exactly
Where were these Strategic Geniuses during the Dominion War.
The Dominion war was in DS9, not in TNG.
@@menacelurkingyet8345 smart but same universe your answer is denied.
@@Archie2c they were assisting according to the eu material
they were probably directing the mirandas to the frontline to get massacred so the dominion would underestimate federation skill and let their guards down :P
Likely overseeing fleet deployment from Starfleet command. They're big picture strategists, not ship to ship combat experts. That's what men like Picard, Riker, Worf, O'Brien, and Sisko are for.
That look Riker gives Picard as he leaves @0:26 . Like: "I deliver to you one hot mess. Good luck"
Kolrami annoyed the Enterprise crew so much that they delighted greatly when Data "busted him up".
You'd think these guys wouldn't be such dicks. Diplomacy is an important part of strategy.
Getting everyone pissed at you, in the words of Tony Stark, is not a great plan.
@@f38stingray We only saw one. That was send on a mission far away.
Asuming he is a typical example of the species is not sensible.
Maybe they sent Kolrami away for a reason. 😂
You've got to hand it to Roy Brocksmith. It takes legitimate dramatic skill to play somebody THAT unlikeable. He probably had fun doing it, too!
You can see the on-screen relationship develop between Picard and Riker, this was one of my favourite early episodes.
Can we please for a moment appreciate the acting of Roy Brocksmith as Mr. Kolrami. Outstanding. You love to hate this character immediately and want to punch him in the face. Great!
Absolutely! It’s obvious that he was having an absolute ball playing this character. Amazing performance and complete commitment and dedication to the character and story and universe
"For over 9 millenia..."
Think about that. Over 9 000 years. Before humans had even invented farming, they were already on the galactic scene and regarded as military geniuses.
Wasn’t the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago though? Still it probably wouldn’t be farming as we know it, and large human civilisations would have yet to exist.
@@AndrewMakesPuns I may be entirely wrong, as I used Wikipedia's timeline of prehistory for this analogy...
it says 12 000 years ago has the first signs of domesticated goats, 9 000 years ago has the first signs of farming (and herding) in south Asia. might just be difference of the definition of "farm"; agricultural vs animals.
Prior to the Federation making it onto the scene, technological development (especially warpdrive) was glacially slow.
United Earth did in 100 years, what took Klingons, Vulcans or Romulans a milennium or more.
But still, that might even put them ahead of the TNG era in technology.
They have slept on their laurels
@@Calmputer before the development of settled agriculture (farming) there were nomadic pastoralists who moved with their herds.
We can still see nomadic herding peoples today eg the Sami in Finland, some Inuit in Canada and various groups in Africa.
You know they have the holodeck. a device that can produce completely realistic simulations of any situation imaginable. Instead of using this wonderous training tool they retrofit the enterprise and an old star cruiser for a round of spaceship paintball for tactical training. Maybe if they used the tools at their disposal they wouldn't be caught with their trousers around their ankles when a non simulated threat showed up. I mean heck all of the comand staff went through the Kobayashi Maru, they know how realistic a simulation can be without actualy flying around and shooting.
The only excuse I can think of is maybe they wanted most or all of the crew to be part of the exercise, not just the bridge crew. I know the holodecks can get away with a lot of stuff, but can they fit hundreds of people at once? However, even if holodeck capacity was a limitation they could build a larger training facility somewhere to get around that, so it still doesn't make much sense. It would explain why they can't use the onboard holodecks though.
@@samsquanch2666 I mean, there is also the issue of why tf they are doing this in an area they even can be intercepted... If the point of this isn't intimidation of a neighboring power, at which point they'd want to be prepared in case of response, it makes no sense to do it at the edge of federation space in the first place
When learning to drive a car at 16, the school administration started with simulations, then controlled foot-on-the-brake range driving, then light use of the gas pedal, then finally on the streets, before being tested to receive one's license.
This is similar. One would assume holodeck simulations were already done for this purpose, and now actual real-world exercises are next on the list.
@@parrot998Hathaway has no warp drive. Getting it anywhere would be difficult
it was towed there again Starfleet's choice was poor@@pretentiousname01
I wonder how much his reputation suffered after Recall Corporation went bankrupt because his clients went crazy.
He played the president of Recall Corporation in the original Total Recall.
Just without all that stuff on his face.
@@johnbell3621 That was the effect on the living conditions of the dome on Mars.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed
No worries he got shot.
I love the original toral recall
he wasn't the president of Rekall. he was a doctor who worked for them
The entire episode was trying to show how smug and arrogant Kolrami was. Except he wasn't, but was surrounded by the most smug and arrogant crew this side of the people who worked on Discovery and Picard.
I mean, this clip alone shows how smug and arrogant he is. To the point it is beating you over the head with it.
@@mechanomics2649 Except anyone with a functioning brain can tell that his arguments are more than valid. That one stupid line from Riker says it all. "I prefer brains over brawns." Hey Cmdr. Dumbass there's a word for that, STRATEGY! You know the thing I'm here to help you improve on?
"Starfleet is not a military institution."
You should read more history, Captain.
@@jje984 true it has militaristic core values, but gives more power to the freedom of it's population. It by all means only acts in peacetime as explorers and mediators between worlds. The size of the galaxy is meant to accommodate passengers more than any direct military purposes.
I'm sorry, I missed the part where it was some other huge organization of ships with a strict command structure that was fighting all those battles against the adversaries of the Federation such as the Klingons, Romulans and the Borg...
@@aylam9667 a. 'Peacetime?' Then what is the whole obsession with Starfleet constantly policing the Neutral Zone with its most armed warships? b. Guess what the current US military does during 'peacetime.' It is also constantly engaged in diplomatic, humanitarian as well as scientific and exploratory missions and yet nobody pretends they aren't the weaponized international enforcement arm of the US government.
c. I am also not sure about the whole 'more power and freedom' in Starfleet. Think not just TNG officers, but the average crew. True, on actual naval ships during deployment crew have tighter living quarters but most of the time around bases military life is no less free to enjoy social and family life while in the service than Starfleet. Most of TNG focuses on commissioned officer life, which even in real militaries has always been more comfortable, even luxurious.
@@pop5678eye Well... At least Startfleet doesnt fail at every turn like US does.
Yeah, it is either one of those wishful-thinking statements like when a US president says "This is not who we are." or the writers had difficulty distinguishing Starfleet and the Federation there.
Or maybe Picard refuses to call it a military institution because it is not purely one and not with a primary focus on one. But considering the similarities in conduct, it is a bit denialist. Possibly influenced by a desire to retcon Roddenberry's 'nostalgic' influences.
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No worries, if you haven't subscribed I would really appreciate it,
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@@tjwparso I have subscribed - no worries there. As good as the picture quality on your videos is, I find I have to grab headphones to be able to hear any of your videos. Is it possible to check the audio levels on any future videos please? Will continue to watch either way, this is aimed as constructive feedback and not an entitled moan! :)
@@superflibblefull Thank you, someone else has already mentioned this, I have never noticed as I almost always have headphones on... I plan to make the new videos louder as clearly atleast two people have noticed it and required headphones. Thanks for the feedback :)
Within several years or so of Picard's arrogant statement about Starfleet not being an "military organization", Starfleet would have to deal with 2 significant Borg incursions, a major war with the Dominion and its Alpha Quadrant allies, and a brief but damaging conflict with the Klingons. In other words, as much as Picard wanted Star Fleet to be nothing more but a bunch of scout ships, it always had two missions--exploration and war.
The irony was that the Federation has its origins in war. It was the Romulans paranoia over the humans gift of diplomacy and creating communities on an interstellar scale that hastened the need of the existing coalition of planets to become a more permanent government.
Star Fleet isn´t a purely military organisation it´s also a diplomatic and Explorer Organization, which part is on the forefront depends on the circumstances
@@thodan467 Indeed, and in that respect it is similar to the 19th century U.S. Navy, which did all three duties. But Picard didn't seem to understand that--or perhaps more correctly, the writers didn't understand that.
Let's not forget, at the very moment Picard was saying so, the Federation still hadn't technically signed an armistice with the Cardassian Union, and were thus technically still at war! And I know, at this point in the course of development the Cardassians and the war didn't exist, but it's still amusing to think about his statements in an in-universe context.
@@hhale
a pale comparison to explorers like Columbus, Magellan or Cook, the beagle etc,
Lewis abd Clarjes Expedition would be a better comparison
I love that nod / eyebrow raise of approval from Data at 1:01
2:48 Riker: You care to surrender now, captain? You ARE french, after all...
Picard:
Picard: If I was French then why do I have an English accent ?
@@menacelurkingyet8345 learned from the victors?
@@menacelurkingyet8345 the universal translator took care of it
@@menacelurkingyet8345 Ah doo nawt weesh tu haf worf faht een mah genereel dyreckshoon
"Starfleet is not a military organization."
Yes, that's why you lost 39 of 40 ships at Wolf 359. Had Starfleet not militarized and constructed dedicated warships, you would have been trampled by the Dominion and all living under Founder rule.
the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, and the Dominion would have also got trashed by a single Borg cube
@@absolutez3r019 Probably not the Dominion. Jem'Hadar ship's and weapons are something that neither the Borg or the Federation was equipped to deal with. Adaptation would be effective if the Dominion fleet where to ceasefire and bord the ship giving the cube plenty of time to recover and adapt. But more destructive is the willingness of the Jem'hadar to ram the invading ship. Which they would do en mass. And they more ships with bigger arsinals, and more powerful weapon systems than the Klingons or the Federation.
@brucechmiel7964 The more you use energy weapons against the borg , the faster they adapt. The borg can also board dominion ships since they can transport through shields. And once on board, they'll start assimilating tech and personnel.
@@absolutez3r019 I don’t think it would be that easy. Remember when the Enterprise D first encounter the board cube, the first volley of phaser fire nearly rendered the ship 40% inoperable. Naturally, it’s because this will be the first time of work at ever experienced anything like federation technology. Now we are talking about a first encounter with a fleet of kill first don’t ask questions Jem’hadar warships with a suicidal cult-like aggression. Their crews are almost entirely armed with melee weapons things the board camp adapt to and in close quarters this be the first weapon that they will use against them. In the event of the ship could be over run the Jem’hadar would simply ram it into the cube. The dominion does not value life the way the Federation does.
@@brucechmiel7964 Jem'hard are willing to die in battle, but vorta are not. Vorta will withdraw their larger cruiser if they think the battle is going south. Even if they can destroy a single cube, the biological and technological data the Borg acquired will make them even harder the repel on the next encounter.
Melee combat is the last place even the Jem'hadar wants to be in. It only takes a moment to get injected with nano-probes. A fallen comrade, now becomes your enemy.
Head-to-head combat, the Dominion will fair no better in the long run. I think their only hope would be a bio-weapon, some thing that attacks the organic parts of a drone
"You will not take my beans, Number One, but I WILL take yours..." 😆
I like the little head nod Data gives after Worf says the reputation means nothing. Cuts so fast after the line you might miss it
Always noticed it.
Seems more like "you have a point" rather than "you're right"
Picard was wilfully blind when he said Starfleet was a purely exploratory organisation, its mandate is also the defense of the UFP which is military in nature.
It makes complete sense, look at the world today and world history. You always see organizations who's members like to pretend are something else.
Where was this Zakdornian strategic genius during the Dominion War??
Zakdornian may be they were the ones that came up with the virus. It was never confirmed that they were part of the federation.
David Knowles Then where did the idea come from, if you're talking about conformation or lack thereof? Or, depending, how did the theory come to be, like, what was it based on?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Not sure what you are going on about.
If the Federation or sections 31 consulted the Zakdornians on how to defend themselves from the dominion, the Zakdornians could have suggested they kill off the changelings, using odo to deliver a pathogen. With DS9 being turn into a heavily fortified station to defend the Alpha quadrant from reprisals.
The Zakdornians would therefore know their was no need to intervene in the war as the Federation and Alpha quadrant has already won.
@@DavidKnowles0 It's just, the suggestion that the Zakdornians got involved is oddly specific, so I was curious on how that idea came to be, and what I said next when I said 'depending' came from the potential idea that it was a theory in the fandom and you didn't come up with it yourself.
The Dominion war was in DS9, not in TNG.
Surely it'd be easy to test this race's strategic genius with war games?
Make it a game and they will love it. 😏
Worf and Data discussing psywar via reputation propaganda is also delightful Trek gold. Are they so good that the reputation is deserved or just so good in scheming? And if no one has challenged them for that long, it would not be in their interest since then they would lack realistic feedback. If they tought that was alright, they would be unwise - a mistake situated at a more profound level than grand strategy.
P.S.: One thing that Kolrami and Bruce Lee might have in common. 😉
"...or that you're really a secret agent from Mars"... oh wait wrong movie LOL
"Starfleet is not a military institution"
Funniest shit since Hitler calling his army "the Defense Force"
Did he? ... And why going so far back?
@@Dowlphin Wehrmacht is German for "Defense Force."
@@victorconway444 Ah, right. "wehr" from "abwehren" and "wehrhaft", alternative to "Verteidigung".
As for my second point:
"US Department of Defense", more accurately the "War Ministry" (actual term used in lesser-BS times), more accurately the "Ministry of Imperial Growth", rarely ever defending due to a lack of need to.
@@Dowlphin I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
@@victorconway444 How was the "Wehrmacht" sarcastically 'funnier shit' than what followed? It's just one of so many examples all throughout history and to this very day of a norm of calling attack "defense".
Oh Worf, when is he going to learn that having the biggest gun only means you move the slowest...
That sure was a bargain basement disguise. I knew he was a human in costume right away.
Data's "exactly" is surprisingly ominous
I have no doubt Riker wrote a lot of condolence messages to the families of his crew.
The exercise scenario involving the disconnection of the Enterprise's phaser system for the usage of modified laser-pulse beams to simulate weapons fire is needlessly complicated. Why not simply ramp down phaser power to 1/100th strength as was done in "The Ultimate Computer"? This was a very obvious plot device to set up the later crippling of the Enterprise being unprepared for the Ferengi attack and a clumsy piece of writing.
because we all remember how well that worked
My point was rather, how the hell did a Ferengi ship manage to sneak up on a Galaxy Class Starfleet ship in the middle of an exercise? Was nobody watching this exercise and checking that there was no interference? Did Starfleet not arrange this exercise to be held at a location deep within Federation territory where it would be safe from incidents like that?
@@wjzav1971 You have to remember that Worf earlier had tricked the Enterprise's sensors to believe they were under attack from a Romulan Warbird, so they thought that the Ferengi D'Kora was another sensor ghost placed by Worf. I do agree that this exercise should have had some kind of security, however it may have taken place deep in Federation territory. Also I don't believe the Federation, is able to monitor 100% of it's territory as it's a coalition of worlds along with unpopulated star systems like this one that the exercise was taking place in.
@@wjzav1971 why the fuck is starfleet leaving spaceworthy ship frames hanging around somewhere?
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 it was towed there. hardly spaceworthy.
Boy this aged like like milk, considering what followed in the next several series.
Or, perhaps some of the next several series were made from spoiled milk.
Insane how someone can use such an old-fasioned subscribe reminder in 2021
crazy
It's pretty comfy, hope the beans stay
Hey, congrats on the 1k, hope for many more to come....
Thank you! :)
Funny how Zakdorn physiology turns a scalp's thinning hair into human-colored skin.
Riker was confident of an easy win 🤣
Paramilitary humanitarian peacekeeping organization. Close enough.
Man...the nacelles on Riker at time index 2:49
I wonder how the Zakdorn would fight the Borg.
Even if the Zakdorn's reputation for being the best strategic minds is warranted, I think the Borg would still win, due to their sheer numbers and their innate ability to adapt to almost any situation.
And if the Borg assimilate so much as a single Zakdorn, the Borg will assimilate all of the strategic knowledge that the Zakdorn had and use it to their own advantage.
@@astrofan1993 Hey, maybe the Zakdorn are immune to assimilation, like 8472.
@@astrofan1993
Does a single human general posess all the tactical knowledge of the entire species?
*I am envisioning a cool plot for that:* One of the greatest Zakdornian strategists heroically sacrifices himself by allowing himself to be assimilated. Then the united computing power of the Borg collective processes their collected strategic wisdom and based on that they come to the conclusion that they could never win against the Zakdornians because that level of skill always stalemates itself, and so the Borg retreat and never bother them again. 😄
(And then Starfleet is very angry with the Zakdornians and coerce them into a lifelong advisory duty. ... Which they of course have forseen and use as an opportunity.)
The reputation means that they haven’t had to lose resources in war for the past 9000 years - which is of great benefit to their society.
The reputation may or may not continue to be well founded, but it's hardly true to say it 'means nothing'.
It’s too bad we couldn’t get the Borg to play a game of strategema.
Reminds me of a young (emeritus) Pope Benedict XVI.
And why couldn't all this have been done on the holodeck?
In the end we were lobotomized.
Gene Roddenberry was always a bit schizophrenic when it came to his view of Starfleet. He outfitted his TNG star ships with weapons as well as families. But then, his idea of utopia was always inconsistent.
Can't expect one man to have a perfectly thought out utopian future in his head, even if he did it wouldn't be everyone's idea of perfection and they were limited by networks/audiences/technology of the time
@@tjwparso Plus a truly accurate expression of his utopian vision would have made for poor television.
Do you even know what it means to be schizophrenic? Also, I find his vision in Star Trek to be extremely accurate. We're just not ready for it yet. And this takes place during a time of space exploration and extraterrestrial interaction, so of course everything Humanity in Star Trek encounters is different and even potentially dangerous in a number of ways. What did you expect?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days Yes, I know exactly what schizophrenic means. The conventional meaning is different from the medical diagnosis. In general use, it means something inconsistent or contradictory. Roddenberry was very inconsistent in his vision of the future by the time TNG was made. Is a starship a military or civilian vessel? Is there commerce or not? Is the future highly industrialized or agrarian?
On one of the seasonal TNG DVD behind-the-scenes, someone conveyed an argument between Roddenberry and a writer about the nitty-gritty details of a tricorder. Roddenberry eventually shut the argument down by saying, "A tricorder's purpose is to move the plot forward!"
After hearing that, it now seems silly to argue and nitpick. At the end of the day, they were tasked to produce a quality and entertaining television show at the cost of working _extremely_ long hours, not to craft the perfect blueprint for an infallible future.
I call BS on the notion that for 9000 years, nobody was willing to test the Zagdorns supposed tactical superiority. All it takes is one commander who is arrogant enough, crazy enough or confident enough to try it. There is only so long you can coast on reputation alone.
This is just a delusion Captain, take this pill and swallow it
Even though Kolrami was a douche, he's right that Starfleet captains should be well-versed in combat tactics rather than purely diplomatic. But then this was during Gene's era where everything Federation was peaceful and happy, when really, it shouldn't have been.
Another species who probably would be useful during the Dominion War unless Worf was right and they sucked once they got tested in real war
Based on the fact that TNG and DS9 loved to make Worf's opinions and decisions out to be hasty, brutish, or incorrect...
That is actually one of my greatest frustrations with both series.
Similar thing happened to Chief O'Brien, especially in DS9.
@@tantalus_complex Rewatch that. DS9 loves Worf and made him less of a jobber.
It's too bad the script had the Ferengi in it. I was more interested in watching the full combat simulation play out.
Then along came the Dominion war proving Riker wrong 😂
I think the Collective coming more than should have lit a fire under Starfleet's ass. You are though, more than right about the Dominion War!
The Dominion war was in DS9, not in TNG.
He's quite the feisty potato isn't he?
More like feasting on potato.
Mr salami
".............then why am I here?"
because your jowls makes for such jovial commentary and enhancement to overall comity.
Oh, yeah, I crushed Kolrami in Strategema in just 12867 moves in 2353.
I don’t like “Mr. Calamari”
Such a Klingon thing to say.
This episode os much more about their teamwork, improvisation, and Riker leadership style.
Although there is Wesley Crusher ridiculous magical possession of a very dangerous substance for a school assignment 😅
Alcohol is a very dangerous substance.
So is the gas used in bunsen burners.
Yet I still used both of them in chemistry in school.
@@christopherg2347 look, man, antimatter in star trek is pretty much like plutonium for us nowadays: extremely dangerous and need special procedures and equipment.
A fraction of a gram could potentially kill lots of people. There is no way that would be unaccounted for.
I take it you don't have face lifts on your planet...
Jesus, "not a military organization" my ass. If one of your duties is the use of armed force to defend the Federation and her interests, you are by definition a military organization.
so police are a military organization? then why are liberals screaming when cops get hand me down rifles and body armor as well file cabinets to replace equipment rather then have the military throw useable stuff into the bonfire?
@@toomanyaccounts I think you just described why we "liberals scream" about military surplus being given to the police. Same reason as giving military weapons to the taliban or a foreign government, it's for "peacekeeping" obviously.
@@wyettastone mil surplus to the police is stuff like filing cabinets, medical supplies that would go into the incentrator even though it is usable. do you not understand that the police depts often have rifles that are decades old and needing replacement? to outfit a police dept with replacement is few hundred thousand to a million dollars? why not hand them used but still very serviceable rifles and handguns that the military would otherwise turn into a crusher?
Many police depts require their personal to purchase their own guns and equipment such as body armor because they don't have the equipment due to morons like you.
FYI military surplus used to be put on the civ market where taxpayers interested in collecting gear or that could use it for lawful purposes would buy it with a percentage going back to uncle sam.
You liberals are what is wrong with America. High schools used to have shooting clubs even New York city had handgun ranges for high school clubs. funny how violence went up and school shootings occured when those clubs were gotten rid of and schools became gun free zones
Worf is an ignorant fool. In this case, the reputation is critical.
Was this the same dude that played the sweating dream guy in Total Recall?
wtf do you mean that the reputation means nothing? It means that they have not had to fight in forever because no one is willing to try, that means an insane amount.
Even the Klingon's who Worf romanticizes haven't challenged them.
I hope this piano player has a day job.
Zackdorn face, human scalp. makeup department fail...
Humans and Zakdorns obviously can have similarly shaped scalps.
@@terminat1 I think Firefalcon100 means the human skin tone visible through the actor's hair. I noticed it when re-watching TNG, and it bugged me too.
Let us hope your disdain for scalp does not affect your strategic abilitiesssss :))))))))))))))