It feels like canon rushed all of these vcm lens's and just through them together design wise. No clicking of the aperture wheel, the aperture wheel doesn't do anything in photo mode on most cameras, the terrible uncorrected performance of the lens, ect. It's really too bad. I'm hoping they aren't rushing the 35mm 1.2 L version and that's why it's taking forever. The 50 1.2 and the 85 1.2 are works of art design and performance wise.
No, they are issues, why sugar coat it? The sony 1.4GM equivalents do not need profile corrections to be useable. Go watch Dustin Abbotts review of the 35VCM. It is NIGHT AND DAY worse than the sony GM. Sony lenses are smaller, cheaper, and optically better in every way. Why do people defend canon when they make bad lenses I don't get it.
@ Agreed. imo that is the issue you shouldn’t care about and use digital correction (which Sony has). As cropping in doesn’t matter as much in video. At the end of the day these are mirrorless lenses not cine lenses. You should not be giving up all optical quality check boxes to focus on focus breathing check box.
@ for? I have both lenses Sony/Canon in question. Distortion/vignetting on the GM are minimal and don’t need correcting. In fact the natural vignette is pleasing. Can correct vs need to correct are different.
For the price we pay, i expect the the optics by itself to be close to perfect, and the digital corrections is just for finessing, so if you put the lens on v-raptor, most likely you won’t then all the flaw of the optics can be seen.
If the end result is great then why does the process matter? Compatibility with RED cameras is a separate issue to be solved, albeit one that isn't necessarily Canon's issue to solve. I'm beginning to think RED should solve this issue through software.
@it does, cause i feel as though i don’t get my money’s worth. If they gonna cut corners, why not charge it cheaper and digitally correct it? My issue is, at that price point, certain standards are non negotiable. What you’re saying is something like, why produce a higher resolution sensor, when you can get the same results with upscaling an image. So if a camera has 8 megapixel, but you can upscale it to 50 megapixel, then it should matter cause end results in the same?
@@Slipsch That isn't quite the same. Side-by-side tests with the original EF 35mm f1.4 show that the new RF 35mm VCM is actually sharper edge-to-edge even after digital corrections have been applied. Not to mention, that if you adjust for inflation the new 35mm is actually cheaper than the old one; mind you it's still more expensive than what the competition has to offer, but Canon has always had a slight price premium.
If the camera does all the distortion and vignetting correction, why does it still cost 1,749 Euros? It feels like a singer who only hits the tones after applying auto tune. Vignetting is something you can't correct very well at high ISO. If you have three stops of vignetting in the corners. your ISO 1600 images will be an ISO 12800 image in the corners. So the corners will look noisier than the center. And if heavy distortion is corrected digitally, you throw away 10% or so of the resolution. I understand that it is easier to build lens with distortion and vignetting and then correct them digitally, but then the lens should cost much less. You will get the best results, if you start with a photo that is at good as possible before you even applied any digital corrections. Then you can still apply digital corrections to make the photo even better, but digital corrections should not replace optical corrections. That it is the same with auto tune. You should start with a singer who can sing pretty well. If cameras still had optical viewfinders, many photographers would not accept all those optical flaws. EVFs hide those flaws even in the viewfinder and you can't disable that without putting tape on some contacts. That is not okay.
I have the EF Tamron 35mm 1.4 and it is absolutely amazing for astro. It's sharp wide open, with almost no coma at all. Im curious about how it would compare against the Canon RF 35mm 1.4. I´ve used the Rokinon 14mm, Canon RF 24mm 1.8, Irix 15mm 2.4, Canon TSE17mm and the Tamron is by far my favorite for astro.
When the RF 35mm 1.4 vcm was released I was skeptical about it I already had the RF 24-105 f2.8 So why would I get this And the easy answer is The lens is super small and light When you throw it on a gimbal it just makes sense. Great for low light and has amazing video features like low focus breathing and the aperture ring. I almost sold it cause I was still new to it and still used the zoom more. But after what it did to my back when fully rigged out and I found myself reaching for the 35 more in the event that I’m not using an easy rig vest support. Long story short is that it made the form factor hella small and light including all those benefits and for under $1500 USD. You can’t go wrong.
I’m curious how do you store that much lenses, cameras, tripods? I can see a couple bodies just laying down behind you but you mentioned a 70-200 and it gotta be somewhere, so please tell me how do you store them.
Okay, I didn’t look at reviews for the 35mm f1.4L before purchasing. I read the information on Canon’s website, and I expected the quality to resemble the other canon L series lenses… unfortunately this was not the case. Yes, the autofocus works well (when it works), but I excited issues with it malfunctioning and causing a serious problem to the camera bodies. The deal breaker is the vignetting. When filming in low light environments, there’s a huge disparity between the brightness in the center of the lens in comparison to the edges. I found that applying corrections in camera lead of all sorts of other complications, all deteriorating the image quality. This is the image quality I expect from an entry level lens, not an L series lens. Canon, please do better.
Big fan of content on a subject while unboxing other things I wouldn’t necessarily watch a video for. It piques my interest more while giving me what I wanted to hear from the title.
For the price I think I'd just stick with the adapted Sigma 24mm and 35mm Art, I think I'd be interested in the 50mm and the so far mythical 85mm, though, the photo redundant and permanently de-clicked aperture ring seems a strange design choice if it really is a hybrid, I don't really care about it and would rather not have it, it seems like paying for something you don't need... Opinion seems to favour that the 85mm won't have IS, if it did, it would need to step outside the current form factor, I think.
Uncorrected lenses are better. I can easily change amount of barrel distortion in post. Rectilinear lenses are good for architecture but bad for human faces and bodies. Canon has really nice f1.4 lineup now and I'm going to get them one by one(I've spent the money on RF28-70f2.8 right now and it's great). Hopefully, the Canon haters keep complaining, and Canon lowers their prices-then I can pick up these great lenses for less!
I'm really disappointed with the price-to-optical-quality ratio of those new lenses (before digital correction). Cool, they are digitally corrected, but the price also should reflect that. There is at least a 50% price premium on those lenses currently. Possibly, it will happen the same way as with RF 100 Macro. It wasn't even a full year, and the price dropped 50%.
I know very few photographers who edit photos without digital corrections turned on. I think the price is good when you compare them to the old EF lenses, but a bit high when you compare to what Sigma is offering.
I’ve used 35/1.4L VCM for months now, and no issues at all. Awesome lens. It’s meant probably for us who actually use lenses in real life, instead of shooting brick walls.
@@alexmaccape8411 Agreed. Once Canon completes the set with an 85mm and maybe something wider, this is going to be a no-brainer for videographers. They won't blink twice at digital correction.
I still use an EF camera with EF lenses professionally and see no point of upgrading, sorry. I mean yes, RF ones are optically better, I know that, I’m not an idiot. But not to the degree that justify the stupidly high price, bulkiness and worse build quality. I mean, of course, if you shoot videos the VCM makes sense, but for stills - it’s very questionable. And even for the video work - there are much cheaper and only slightly worse options on the market. Not recommended to upgrade, if it has to be your first camera - maybe…
all campanies use an acronym canons is VCM, basically its magnets, when turned on the elements float between magnets allowinhg for near silent focus they it why the Lens makes a slight knocking noise when off. Some knob mentioned it and complained and now people moan that it's fault. Its not! Moving parts are greatly reduced BUT the system is expensive to implement hence the price of the lens.
Hybrid cameras, now hybrid lenses. Canon is banking their success on video. Not for me and NO. Are they going to drive photocentric still shooters to go somewhere else and at better cost? I bet so.
I’ve never had a reissue with distortion or even profile corrections. A lot of you guys just have a stick up your butt. It’s still an optically great lens and the price makes SENSE. Relax.
You lose sharpness due to the crazy distortion especially towards the edges. Also, correcting the vignette will also cause issues. For $1500, it should not have to rely on software corrections to get a normal image.
@@kifley19 It has been proven that the VCM is sharper in the edges than the ef mk ii version. Please remove that stick. (it's pretty painful you know...)
for every post I see people are leaving canon I see one for Sony, fuji, Nikon. Basically unless your analyst and have sale figures in front of you have absolutely no F£king Idea what you're talking about. BUT I do agree canon now need to open the mount up to third parties, but ill caveat that by pointing out fuji only just now recently opened the mount, what was that 10-12 years!
@@gaza4543 yeah but fuji is a budget apsc, i start with fuji in 2017 and their lens price is reasonable. Many people in my country use fuji so secondhand market can be accessed easily, when i look for secondhand canon rf lens, i cant find any, people use mostly EF, and i am leaning toward sony/nikon for the upgrade
The Canon bodies and lenses are superior to the Sony counterparts. However these new lenses are beyond insanely expensive... with that said, I bet Sony and Nikon will follow with super expensive 70-200's to follow Canon's lead now.
That's the case for a lot of mid-tier and entry-level photographers. It's no secret Canon is tailoring to the upper tier of pro-level photographers and feeding their needs first (the Canon R1 is proof of this) A lot of photographers simply can't make the jump from APS-C to full-frame due to the lack of mid-range high-quality lenses.
@@kevin-sj3wt agreed, the middle selection is lacking. I don't blame them not opening up their lens lineup to third parties for full frame. it just waters down their product in my opinion and at that point and it's a race to the bottom. I think if people want mid tier they should go with fuji or olympus. Canon should keep focusing on professional gear and its' ok if they leave out the lower end and some of the medium end, they should no sacrifice quality. Which I kind of feel like they are with these lenses.
Do you agree, do you disagree? Let me know your thoughts below!
I have 35 VCM, for me it cannot be replaced, 50 is too narrow for me and 24 is too wide, 35 is the perfect focal length for me
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It feels like canon rushed all of these vcm lens's and just through them together design wise. No clicking of the aperture wheel, the aperture wheel doesn't do anything in photo mode on most cameras, the terrible uncorrected performance of the lens, ect. It's really too bad. I'm hoping they aren't rushing the 35mm 1.2 L version and that's why it's taking forever. The 50 1.2 and the 85 1.2 are works of art design and performance wise.
The price of these new lenses make them not even a thought or worry to me. $4500 cdn for the 70-200 2.8 with tax! $2200 for the 50 1.4! Yikes.
If 85 1.4 comes out, I’m sold!
Dude, what is with all of the unwrapping rigmarole?
I think it is his quirky signature, he seems to like the sound effects!
Unboxing drove me crazy 😂
No, they are issues, why sugar coat it? The sony 1.4GM equivalents do not need profile corrections to be useable. Go watch Dustin Abbotts review of the 35VCM. It is NIGHT AND DAY worse than the sony GM. Sony lenses are smaller, cheaper, and optically better in every way. Why do people defend canon when they make bad lenses I don't get it.
While these are bad the Sony primes do need breathing correction for video (which these are meant for) but yeah they’re really bad
@ Agreed. imo that is the issue you shouldn’t care about and use digital correction (which Sony has). As cropping in doesn’t matter as much in video. At the end of the day these are mirrorless lenses not cine lenses. You should not be giving up all optical quality check boxes to focus on focus breathing check box.
YES SONY GM LENSES DO RELY ON DIGITAL CORRECTION
@ for? I have both lenses Sony/Canon in question. Distortion/vignetting on the GM are minimal and don’t need correcting. In fact the natural vignette is pleasing. Can correct vs need to correct are different.
I agree that these are issues to an extend but I don't think these are bad lenses at all. As for the GM lenses, they are superb, yes.
For the price we pay, i expect the the optics by itself to be close to perfect, and the digital corrections is just for finessing, so if you put the lens on v-raptor, most likely you won’t then all the flaw of the optics can be seen.
If the end result is great then why does the process matter? Compatibility with RED cameras is a separate issue to be solved, albeit one that isn't necessarily Canon's issue to solve. I'm beginning to think RED should solve this issue through software.
if you shoot RED, you probably use manual cine lenses, not photography, autofocus glass. But yes RED should apply lens correnctions.
@it does, cause i feel as though i don’t get my money’s worth. If they gonna cut corners, why not charge it cheaper and digitally correct it? My issue is, at that price point, certain standards are non negotiable. What you’re saying is something like, why produce a higher resolution sensor, when you can get the same results with upscaling an image. So if a camera has 8 megapixel, but you can upscale it to 50 megapixel, then it should matter cause end results in the same?
@@Slipsch That isn't quite the same. Side-by-side tests with the original EF 35mm f1.4 show that the new RF 35mm VCM is actually sharper edge-to-edge even after digital corrections have been applied. Not to mention, that if you adjust for inflation the new 35mm is actually cheaper than the old one; mind you it's still more expensive than what the competition has to offer, but Canon has always had a slight price premium.
@@Slipsch if it isnt Lightroom the camera would do it automatically, fuji for example. Doesnt bother any of them. Even there GFX line
I'm hoping for a 14mm f1.8. would be great for real estate and astrophotographers
If it comes out, I'm getting it!
After using the 35 mm 1.4 for a couple days its light years ahead of the rf 35 1.8. I personally don’t care for the corrections.
I use the 35mm 1.8 as a daily driver, thinking of moving up to the 1.4
If the camera does all the distortion and vignetting correction, why does it still cost 1,749 Euros? It feels like a singer who only hits the tones after applying auto tune. Vignetting is something you can't correct very well at high ISO. If you have three stops of vignetting in the corners. your ISO 1600 images will be an ISO 12800 image in the corners. So the corners will look noisier than the center. And if heavy distortion is corrected digitally, you throw away 10% or so of the resolution. I understand that it is easier to build lens with distortion and vignetting and then correct them digitally, but then the lens should cost much less.
You will get the best results, if you start with a photo that is at good as possible before you even applied any digital corrections. Then you can still apply digital corrections to make the photo even better, but digital corrections should not replace optical corrections. That it is the same with auto tune. You should start with a singer who can sing pretty well.
If cameras still had optical viewfinders, many photographers would not accept all those optical flaws. EVFs hide those flaws even in the viewfinder and you can't disable that without putting tape on some contacts. That is not okay.
The preview of the lenses were distracted by many other accessories , which seemly to dillute the lacks of the lenses performances themselves imo
I have the EF Tamron 35mm 1.4 and it is absolutely amazing for astro. It's sharp wide open, with almost no coma at all. Im curious about how it would compare against the Canon RF 35mm 1.4.
I´ve used the Rokinon 14mm, Canon RF 24mm 1.8, Irix 15mm 2.4, Canon TSE17mm and the Tamron is by far my favorite for astro.
Good to know. In last week's video I showed some samples with the 35mm. Not my favourite lens for astro.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the 70-200 USM Z compared to the regular USM as someone looking to upgrade from an EF 70-200
When the RF 35mm 1.4 vcm was released I was skeptical about it
I already had the RF 24-105 f2.8
So why would I get this
And the easy answer is
The lens is super small and light
When you throw it on a gimbal it just makes sense. Great for low light and has amazing video features like low focus breathing and the aperture ring. I almost sold it cause I was still new to it and still used the zoom more. But after what it did to my back when fully rigged out and I found myself reaching for the 35 more in the event that I’m not using an easy rig vest support.
Long story short is that it made the form factor hella small and light including all those benefits and for under $1500 USD. You can’t go wrong.
And I shoot on a R5C with no IBIS
Currently looking to buy a beginner camera for photography and a bit of videography. Should I go for Canon r50 or Sony zv-e10?
I would like to know if it is really necessary to have the 35mm 1.4 if you already have the 15-35mm 2.8, if it is really worth it for video at least?
I’m curious how do you store that much lenses, cameras, tripods? I can see a couple bodies just laying down behind you but you mentioned a 70-200 and it gotta be somewhere, so please tell me how do you store them.
Usually in my camera bag
guys try and hold the play button and just skip forward slowly. Anthony makes a lotta funny poses, dangling the arms around haha. Ita kinda funny.
Okay, I didn’t look at reviews for the 35mm f1.4L before purchasing. I read the information on Canon’s website, and I expected the quality to resemble the other canon L series lenses… unfortunately this was not the case.
Yes, the autofocus works well (when it works), but I excited issues with it malfunctioning and causing a serious problem to the camera bodies.
The deal breaker is the vignetting. When filming in low light environments, there’s a huge disparity between the brightness in the center of the lens in comparison to the edges.
I found that applying corrections in camera lead of all sorts of other complications, all deteriorating the image quality.
This is the image quality I expect from an entry level lens, not an L series lens. Canon, please do better.
This is way I’m a Sony guy. All the lens selections we have. I’m excited to try out my 14 1.4
Big fan of content on a subject while unboxing other things I wouldn’t necessarily watch a video for. It piques my interest more while giving me what I wanted to hear from the title.
The boxes can really pile up sometimes 😅
@ I’m sure they do 😂 Especially when you keep the boxes of anything and everything that you consider nice!
For the price I think I'd just stick with the adapted Sigma 24mm and 35mm Art, I think I'd be interested in the 50mm and the so far mythical 85mm, though, the photo redundant and permanently de-clicked aperture ring seems a strange design choice if it really is a hybrid, I don't really care about it and would rather not have it, it seems like paying for something you don't need...
Opinion seems to favour that the 85mm won't have IS, if it did, it would need to step outside the current form factor, I think.
Are you gonna use these lenses daily or just....
Uncorrected lenses are better. I can easily change amount of barrel distortion in post. Rectilinear lenses are good for architecture but bad for human faces and bodies. Canon has really nice f1.4 lineup now and I'm going to get them one by one(I've spent the money on RF28-70f2.8 right now and it's great).
Hopefully, the Canon haters keep complaining, and Canon lowers their prices-then I can pick up these great lenses for less!
Ha! That would be ideal! I imagine the price will drop a bit over time!
Can you review the Canon 24-240mm lens?
We should go back to when apterture ring was standard. Thank you.
Hiding trash under the carpet isn't "solving the issues". The camera doesn't solve anything, it's just wasting the megapixels to hide the problem.
How's the IBIS jitter in video mode on the R5 Mark ii? Mine isn't usable when I turn on either IS Modes.
At what focal length? Wide angle is always going to be a bit wobbly. I find 20mm and tighter to be very usable!
10/10 Content Bro
I'm really disappointed with the price-to-optical-quality ratio of those new lenses (before digital correction). Cool, they are digitally corrected, but the price also should reflect that. There is at least a 50% price premium on those lenses currently. Possibly, it will happen the same way as with RF 100 Macro. It wasn't even a full year, and the price dropped 50%.
I know very few photographers who edit photos without digital corrections turned on. I think the price is good when you compare them to the old EF lenses, but a bit high when you compare to what Sigma is offering.
I’ve used 35/1.4L VCM for months now, and no issues at all. Awesome lens. It’s meant probably for us who actually use lenses in real life, instead of shooting brick walls.
@@alexmaccape8411 Agreed. Once Canon completes the set with an 85mm and maybe something wider, this is going to be a no-brainer for videographers. They won't blink twice at digital correction.
Holy smokes, that astrophotography shot at 4:34 is stunning. Do you have a video that explains how/where you got that shot?
Not yet. Im planning a longer video on astrophotography, but it's taking me a while to gather sample photos. I need a few more solid compositions.
@ makes sense. I’m looking forward to that video, and I’m in complete agreement that an ultra wide/sub-1.8 aperture FF RF lens would be amazing
It’s just an advertisement of stuff rather than a proper review. Will never watch any video from this guy again.
It's only his THOUGHTS he never mentioned Review
How does the RF35 f1.8 campare to the ne F1.4.
I still use an EF camera with EF lenses professionally and see no point of upgrading, sorry. I mean yes, RF ones are optically better, I know that, I’m not an idiot. But not to the degree that justify the stupidly high price, bulkiness and worse build quality.
I mean, of course, if you shoot videos the VCM makes sense, but for stills - it’s very questionable. And even for the video work - there are much cheaper and only slightly worse options on the market. Not recommended to upgrade, if it has to be your first camera - maybe…
We need a Canon EOS R5 Mini | Full Frame, 4k120, 20mpx, 10fps, LPE6 Battery, no view finder, and can miss some features :)
this sounds like the r3 but without flagship features
16mm f1.4 vcm and 135mm f1.8 vcm come next
Can you explain what is vcm???
Voice Coil Motor. The AF motors in the lens. They tend to be lighter and quieter than Linear Actuators which makes them better for video applications.
@ ohh
all campanies use an acronym canons is VCM, basically its magnets, when turned on the elements float between magnets allowinhg for near silent focus they it why the Lens makes a slight knocking noise when off. Some knob mentioned it and complained and now people moan that it's fault. Its not! Moving parts are greatly reduced BUT the system is expensive to implement hence the price of the lens.
@@gaza4543 so its expensive
Day 3 of ask8ng anthony how to pronounce his last name
Great video / You were making me laugh with that knife
Hybrid cameras, now hybrid lenses. Canon is banking their success on video. Not for me and NO. Are they going to drive photocentric still shooters to go somewhere else and at better cost? I bet so.
Tight
This is someone else’s review
4:06 what are you doing whilst talking about one subject unpacking other things..it’s very annoying!!! Focus!!
That’s some haul.
You are so distracting the real content here, i can't concentrate, make video more on content and accessories different
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Sigma lenses are the best because they're less expensive and I can get 2 for a little more than the price of 1.
Wow.. for a thoughts about the VCM lenses you surely drop in a lot of product placements.. quite horrendous tbh.
I’ve never had a reissue with distortion or even profile corrections. A lot of you guys just have a stick up your butt. It’s still an optically great lens and the price makes SENSE. Relax.
Agree with the stick part
You lose sharpness due to the crazy distortion especially towards the edges. Also, correcting the vignette will also cause issues. For $1500, it should not have to rely on software corrections to get a normal image.
@@kifley19 It has been proven that the VCM is sharper in the edges than the ef mk ii version. Please remove that stick. (it's pretty painful you know...)
@@kifley19 This is not true. The VCM is in fact sharper at the edges even with profile corrections on. There are lots of reviews stating this!
Lens choice and price are the reason people leaving canon
The numbers say otherwise
@@Brettfhill numbers also included Canon DSLR user with EF lenses
for every post I see people are leaving canon I see one for Sony, fuji, Nikon. Basically unless your analyst and have sale figures in front of you have absolutely no F£king Idea what you're talking about. BUT I do agree canon now need to open the mount up to third parties, but ill caveat that by pointing out fuji only just now recently opened the mount, what was that 10-12 years!
@@gaza4543 yeah but fuji is a budget apsc, i start with fuji in 2017 and their lens price is reasonable. Many people in my country use fuji so secondhand market can be accessed easily, when i look for secondhand canon rf lens, i cant find any, people use mostly EF, and i am leaning toward sony/nikon for the upgrade
One day Canon will get to Sony’s level 😏😜
Keep dreaming
@ yeah I agree we can only dream of Canon keeping up with Sony 🙂
The Canon bodies and lenses are superior to the Sony counterparts. However these new lenses are beyond insanely expensive... with that said, I bet Sony and Nikon will follow with super expensive 70-200's to follow Canon's lead now.
@@77dris I don’t think anyone would wanna follow Canon based on what they’re doin 😟😟
@@77dris The new 70-200mm makes no sense to me, but I understand why they made it.
Lens choice and price are the reason people leaving canon
That's the case for a lot of mid-tier and entry-level photographers. It's no secret Canon is tailoring to the upper tier of pro-level photographers and feeding their needs first (the Canon R1 is proof of this) A lot of photographers simply can't make the jump from APS-C to full-frame due to the lack of mid-range high-quality lenses.
@@AnthonyGugliotta yeah they dont have the middle option, and the expensive one also heavy for hobbyist, it makes the barrier to entry is hard to pass
@@kevin-sj3wt agreed, the middle selection is lacking. I don't blame them not opening up their lens lineup to third parties for full frame. it just waters down their product in my opinion and at that point and it's a race to the bottom. I think if people want mid tier they should go with fuji or olympus. Canon should keep focusing on professional gear and its' ok if they leave out the lower end and some of the medium end, they should no sacrifice quality. Which I kind of feel like they are with these lenses.