Though I like and use this idea all the time, I prefer to use a pair of carabiners instead of the pulleys. Granted, when doing the block and tackle, only a slight increase in resistance but no chance of jamming or jumping the pully wheel. They're also quite a bit lighter and more versatile. Should anyone be interested, 2ea. lines and carabiners. one line over a branch with 1st carabiner attached. Tie 2nd line to the 1st carabiner and loop this line through the 2nd carabiner on bear bag, then back through the 1st carabiner. Pull 1st line and carabiner up into the tree. The 2nd line is now looped up to the 1st carabiner, down to 2nd on the bag and back up to 1st. You may also pass the 2nd line back through the 2nd carabiner to do a PCT hang with less of a drop. Throw the lines and carabiners in a small sack and you have the perfect kit... with rock sack.
Great tip. I haven't tried the 'double carabiner' method but perhaps I should give it a try. The pulleys I have are just cheap hardware store pulleys, they are relatively heavy but they do have good brackets that keep the rope centred on the wheel. Someday I may experiment with better arborist or climbing pulleys. ATB!
Happy Thanksgiving Great information as usual 😊 Leave to a forester to sneak in a tip on how to trim dead branches with climbing the tree 😂 It’s really great to see you posting regularly again.
Great video . I have used a rock bag since the 60s but to save your hands wrap the line around a short stick a few times and you have a T Handle to pull on. You can lift a lot more with or without pulley.
Great video Kevin. Happy gobble gobble weekend! Excellent point about the extra friction of the additional surface area of a thicker, stronger branch.Ditto on the flick technique to get the pulley low enough. Cheers. Tim
Hey there Kevin, very informative video. Your the only person I've ever heard of who has or uses a rock bag other than myself, I call it my throw bag. I use a pully system also for my heavy food pack, I really don't do any video's so I'll message you how I set it up. Thanks.
Just found your channel. Did the Wakimi Lake explore and portages with ya’. I wasn’t much help. I subscribed and liked and on your list of videos so gonna’ do some exploring. Best
How about a drone to send the pulley and its rope up, over, and back down again? Then you can pick any strong branch, regardless of how out of reach of your throw it might be.
That's a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately I don't think my drone would do so well amongst the trees, it has sensors that cause it to stop before it gets too close to branches. But the right drone with the ability to hold a rope could work.
Nice video Kevin. There isn’t much content out there that deals with lifting heavier food bags. Most of our trips are 2 weeks 2 people. I usually end up putting up my large blue barrel. I tried some pulleys last year but found you need to use smaller diameter rope that doesn’t work well with a large heavy barrel. I’ll have to practice your swing set technique, that looked much easier.
@Bobby T Thanks for that Bobby. That is the classic trade-off, a larger rope is easier to pull but it is a lot heavier and bulkier to carry. Somethin I should try and cover in my next video on the subject. I tend to go with a narrower rope but it is a lot harder on the hands.
@Bobby T Yeah I go with a 1/4" static line but when backpacking I also have a 1/8" line that I sometimes use. I big part of rope choice involves the mode of travel. I always bring thicker ropes when canoe tripping than backpacking.
Nice! I use a 2 pulley system but use 2 ropes. Just wondering do you hang your food in Wabakimi? I’m doing my first trip next year and wasn’t sure if hanging would work that far north
You certainly can hang your food in Wabakimi but that is getting pretty remote and bears in that environment aren't prone to going after food barrels. I have plans for an upcoming video where I will discuss where and when to hang food.
I just use cheap pulleys from the hardware store and they work fine, but there are some higher quality pulleys made for rock climbing that you can find in good quality outdoor stores.
I get mine from a local Italian grocery store. I would look for any Italian or Greek store or any bigger chain that sells olives in bulk. It might be harder to find someone to talk to in a bigger store. All the barrels seem to be rectangular now. About 10 years ago they switched from round to square.
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Though I like and use this idea all the time, I prefer to use a pair of carabiners instead of the pulleys. Granted, when doing the block and tackle, only a slight increase in resistance but no chance of jamming or jumping the pully wheel. They're also quite a bit lighter and more versatile. Should anyone be interested, 2ea. lines and carabiners. one line over a branch with 1st carabiner attached. Tie 2nd line to the 1st carabiner and loop this line through the 2nd carabiner on bear bag, then back through the 1st carabiner. Pull 1st line and carabiner up into the tree. The 2nd line is now looped up to the 1st carabiner, down to 2nd on the bag and back up to 1st. You may also pass the 2nd line back through the 2nd carabiner to do a PCT hang with less of a drop. Throw the lines and carabiners in a small sack and you have the perfect kit... with rock sack.
Great tip. I haven't tried the 'double carabiner' method but perhaps I should give it a try. The pulleys I have are just cheap hardware store pulleys, they are relatively heavy but they do have good brackets that keep the rope centred on the wheel. Someday I may experiment with better arborist or climbing pulleys. ATB!
Happy Thanksgiving
Great information as usual 😊
Leave to a forester to sneak in a tip on how to trim dead branches with climbing the tree 😂
It’s really great to see you posting regularly again.
Thanks Alan, much appreciated. Happy Thanksgiving!
Great tip. I have used a single pulley before, but never thought to use 2 pulleys. Thanks for this.
No problem 👍
Great video . I have used a rock bag since the 60s but to save your hands wrap the line around a short stick a few times and you have a T Handle to pull on. You can lift a lot more with or without pulley.
The toggle t-handle is a good tip. It does present challenges when tying off, .
Great video Kevin. Happy gobble gobble weekend! Excellent point about the extra friction of the additional surface area of a thicker, stronger branch.Ditto on the flick technique to get the pulley low enough. Cheers. Tim
Thanks, you too, happy Turkey Day! 🍗
Thanks for the upload Kevin!
No problem!
That was fun and entertaining and some pretty useful information. Thanks Kevin.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Another very relevant & useful video. I have a few different pulley systems for different trips depending on how many people are coming. Thanks Kevin.
Thanks Derek, they are indeed very useful! 👍
I have a few pulleys just for this purpose.I always neglect to bring them and have regretted it more than once lol. Good demo Kevin👍
I have found them pretty handy and worth the weight, at least on a canoe trip. 👊
Hey there Kevin, very informative video. Your the only person I've ever heard of who has or uses a rock bag other than myself, I call it my throw bag. I use a pully system also for my heavy food pack, I really don't do any video's so I'll message you how I set it up. Thanks.
Good to hear from you Donald. Looking forward to hearing about your system.
Some great tips Kevin.
Thanks 👍
Great demonstration of the 2 pulley system Kevin. Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks, you too!
Would love to see a video on modifying olive barrels and strategies to portage them easier.
I have a very old video on how to modify them for hanging. They fit well in most canoe packs. ruclips.net/video/CDv50_I_mJQ/видео.html
@@KevinOutdoors thanks! I hadn’t done a deep dive yet in the channel.
Just found your channel.
Did the Wakimi Lake explore and portages with ya’. I wasn’t much help.
I subscribed and liked and on your list of videos so gonna’ do some exploring.
Best
Hey thanks Jeffery, much appreciated!
How about a drone to send the pulley and its rope up, over, and back down again? Then you can pick any strong branch, regardless of how out of reach of your throw it might be.
That's a pretty interesting idea. Unfortunately I don't think my drone would do so well amongst the trees, it has sensors that cause it to stop before it gets too close to branches. But the right drone with the ability to hold a rope could work.
Nice video Kevin. There isn’t much content out there that deals with lifting heavier food bags. Most of our trips are 2 weeks 2 people. I usually end up putting up my large blue barrel. I tried some pulleys last year but found you need to use smaller diameter rope that doesn’t work well with a large heavy barrel. I’ll have to practice your swing set technique, that looked much easier.
Yes that two pulley method should work. You can use one rope to lift the pulley or hang a pully from a two tree method.
@Bobby T Thanks for that Bobby. That is the classic trade-off, a larger rope is easier to pull but it is a lot heavier and bulkier to carry. Somethin I should try and cover in my next video on the subject. I tend to go with a narrower rope but it is a lot harder on the hands.
@Bobby T Yeah I go with a 1/4" static line but when backpacking I also have a 1/8" line that I sometimes use. I big part of rope choice involves the mode of travel. I always bring thicker ropes when canoe tripping than backpacking.
Bear with Kevin. He's been busy making great videos.
PS: is bear on the Thanksgiving menu? : )
LOL, no going without turkey would be unbearable. 😉
Nice! I use a 2 pulley system but use 2 ropes. Just wondering do you hang your food in Wabakimi? I’m doing my first trip next year and wasn’t sure if hanging would work that far north
You certainly can hang your food in Wabakimi but that is getting pretty remote and bears in that environment aren't prone to going after food barrels. I have plans for an upcoming video where I will discuss where and when to hang food.
Hey Kevin, which pulley and rope should i buy? Instead of food i am trying to hang a 6.6 gallon (25L) solar outdoor shower on the tree of a branch
I just use cheap pulleys from the hardware store and they work fine, but there are some higher quality pulleys made for rock climbing that you can find in good quality outdoor stores.
I've never seen the rectangular olive barrels....do you have a good source for those? Thanks!
I get mine from a local Italian grocery store. I would look for any Italian or Greek store or any bigger chain that sells olives in bulk. It might be harder to find someone to talk to in a bigger store. All the barrels seem to be rectangular now. About 10 years ago they switched from round to square.
@@KevinOutdoors Thanks!
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Why did you edit out how you put the pully up ? 7:53 lol
I have no idea what you are talking about. That time signature is of a bear climbing a rope.
@@KevinOutdoors you didn't show how you put poly in tree with rope running thrue it.