I want to add, I'm a thinker and study like you, always have been. I have a 400 sbc in my 69 Corvette and it'll probably stay that way. I always wanted a 600hp sbc but unfortunately it's not very streetable. You did a great job with excellent parts selection and spent the money in the right places ! Love this build !
I'm a lot like yourself. I built my 1st engine at 15 yrs old. I bought and read the book called how to Hotrod a small block Chevy. Read it cover to cover multiple times. I got my hands on an older Chevy station wagon. Well the wagon was loaded from the factory. Everything was heavy duty and built to tow. I only really wanted the Turbo 400 transmission it had. Come to find out it was a 4 bolt main block. I followed a step by step approach to build an exact replica of the 1970 LT1 375 hp 350. I think it was 375 or 370. Not sure now. It was more than 40 yrs ago. But I had all of the right parts. Fulie 202 heads, a steel crank, the factory Winters 4 barrel intake and the optional 3972178 solid lifter cam. Although I did use a set of Harlan Sharp roller rockers. That motor ripped! Keep up the good work. Love reading these types of stories. There's still a few of us, of this dying breed, left in the world.
Its hillarious to watch internet experts keep saying, "get rid of your first generation Chevy small block, you can't make any streetable power out of those, you need an LS". bullshift. back in the days of the big three--cam, carb, and compression--it wasn't easy to get past 400 hp when only a set of stock fuelie heads were available, but the days of "only Crane Fireball heads" or a trip to Joe Mondello are done and over. But the LS fans still let these first gen stuff go for dirt cheap, so let 'em keep complaining. The deal with the LS is that it has a deep skirt Y block design that creates a large crankcase volume, reducing pumping losses on the pistons as they descend like a parachute, while the valve angles are the same as a Pontiac V8 and the cathedral ports flow as much air as most aftermarket chevy engine ports.
The LS platform has its advantages for sure. For me, I'm a bit old school and like the stuff I cut my teeth on. You are correct, back in the day 450hp was a street killer and took lots of work to get there. Today 600 plus is a simple deal
Hey keep in mind there were cars from Detroit rated at 250hp but that was at 1,800 rpm so at almost idle for insurance reasons. Like the 302 chevy. You could get 500 out of them on Friday and race on Saturday
@@philthelawnman Agreed, and I don't mean to sound like a flathead V8 fan in 1965 knocking the new GTO tripower. The LS design and the new Hemi can make affordable power on a dyno. But then you buy everything necessary to fit into an engine compartment not designed for it (ie, $400 throttle by wire gas pedals, $1,000 electronic steering systems, etc) and the cost hits you then. Ford is accused of overrating their FE engines from the 1960's, but for the most part you're right even with the old rating system of open exhaust and no alternators on, there was an underrating. Chevy even learned a lesson from the Hemi--the first street 426's were built loose to get them out there and winning, expected to be bought by owners who would tear them down to blueprint. problem was, rich kids would buy the hottest thing the dealer had and come right back with intake bolts in the intake manifold. so when chevy came out with the L88, it was 430 hp--and the L71 tripower, designed for the street and warantees, was rated at 435 so that non racers and vets home with combat pay would grab the L71 427 instead and not bug the dealerships with the issues of a full-outhouse race engine in their corvettes. but we all knew it made a lot more.
Scott, Your not a ordinary guy your a exordinary fellow Hot Rodder and I truly appreciate how humble & Honest you are... & that you share yourself with the world ! Thanks my fellow Drag Racer 🏁
I've always been a big fan of the "Gladiator 350" build from the early 00's. It made 524hp from a ZZ4 bottom end, AFR 190 heads, Comp 254/260 solid roller with 5.83 lift on 92 octane.
There is no better feeling than building an engine that takes all the punishment you can throw at it in bracket racing. Pride of the build is tantamount.
Never watched any of your stuff before, and haven't even got to the meat of the video yet. But after ~2 minutes, you've got a new subscriber! I relate to what you said in those first couple minutes, and I especially appreciate your clear and eloquent delivery.
Great job. Real motor for real guys. I don't think people realize how dependable a motor like that is. Circle track guys run prepped 2 bolt blocks all the time. If you never use more nitrous than it should have, no problems. In the early 90s my running buddy had a 79 C10 with w 2bolt cast 400 crank and 5.65 rods swinging cast pistons. He put over 10 bottles thru that mill in the next couple of years before he broke a ring gland. It smoked but, ran. we pulled it down and replace 1 piston. The tune determines how something lives. If you need 4 bolt mains, steel h beams and super expensive pistons, you might need wiggle for poor tuning practices. You did a great job and will have many runs with that combo. Best of luck to you. Keep up the good work.
Prosytem built my carb for 421 Chevy.995 cfm….will never run an out of the box carb again!running same heads as you and custom grind comp solid roller.
421 Chevy is kinda a pain in the ass to build.small base circle cam,special pushrods,lifters,timing chain,all the clearancing,ect.I get to ever do another hot rod,Iam slapping in a 525horsr LS crate.Cant recommend the Liberty Gear TKO600 Pro trans enough though!
Not a engine builder but I’m still running my 454 bored over to a 502 in my 84 cutlass that motor has been going strong since I had it built in 2004 loved the video information brother glad to see someone doing somthing they love it’s a hobby somthing I always tell my buds it’s in us not on us
Lol I got a 454 125 over and a stroked crank that is a 505 cubic inch , runs great no over heating 1/8 mi at a time , Also got a 496 also . 565 is next but requires a after market block
Never saw your channel before but I subscribed because you are interesting and your intro is right to the facts... thanx.. I have a 383 sbc 535hp 522 to all under 6000 rpm
That's a nice build my 427 60 over only made a few more hp and I have all good parts I have afr heads Howard's hydraulic roller but I built this for my daily driver that's why I went with the hydraulic roller it's only ly 235x241@50 618 lift I do have a solid roller for the motor that's a Lil bit bigger but I'm happy with it I made 661 hp at 6000 rpm and 605 torque I was thinking of putting it in a s10 but it going in my 88 monte carlo SS
i ran a .700 lift in my small block on the street. it was in a pro street 55 chevy, it worked great. i now run a .750 lift in my Nova. big cams on the street get a bad rap.
I am an engine builder. I was skeptical at the start of this video. Youve done well with that combination. Theres nothing that will ever supercede paying attention to detail! Youre getting 406 numbers out of that!
I’m like you, a guy building in the driveway. About to put together my second SBC (a 400) and plan on using Summit for much of it. Great job on the build!
Just came across this video and really enjoyed it. I don't race but had a couple of street cars built on a tight budget that ran OK. My approach is pretty much like yours. I am just starting a channel and will be up in the next month or so. I just subscibed and will be watching your other vids.
Great job showing and telling, I am a truck driver to and I have a old 350 motor do not know the year. I wood like to fix it one day later cause I am fixing my 460 Ford motor right now. just wanted to put headers on it broke six bolts off in the head.so now I am going to just rebuild it, it needs it it a1990 f350 long bed. So it’s had a hard working life so I’ll rebuild it. well good telling ya about it and thanks again for showing telling well see ya next time see ya bye.
I had a 460 in a 91 super duty (F450) dump truck back when my wife and I owned a tree service. That thing was a beast, but It would run a bit hot. I could totally see exhaust manifold bolts breaking on a motor like that. Thanks for watching and be safe out there!
What you said in the begining of this video is so true. It's all about doing it your self and having fun and being a part of it. Not just buying a fast car and bragging about it.
I have been around racing 1965 till know. Have a1969 chevelle 355 SD in it. No 600 hp. But 425 hp. 390 gr. 350t Trans. Bilt by hills Trans in Clio mi. Home bilt with a lot of help ft a buddy . Ran. 12s at a track in mi. Must say I was shocked when I saw the slip. I in joyed vid on your 377.. Chevy engine I 2 drove truck 4 40 yrs in mi. Like 2 see u race . Be safe. 10 4 😊
"Copy that" on the local truck driver. I'm at that point where I need to decide on an engine for my c3 vette. Well over due for a new engine. Thanks for the video. It was very helpful. 👍
All the pat mussi rolling thunder series cams are a 112 -114 Center line and he builds great engines ,love your honesty that engine makes good horse power ,good choice with the bigger carb
With 13.2:1, 384.6 cubes and a 2.10" 23° setup, I'd probably run 109 lobe centerline (or the 106 he has at 11.5:1 or less and 112 at 14.5:1, 114 at 15.5:1...). And I'd target the duration based off what I thought overlap should be for that combination. So I'd guess he's probably making more avg power with a 106 vs a 112-114 in this case.
This is a cool video about the camshaft im a budget drag car builder im building my last one at age 50 its an altered dragster my boss is building me a 383 cool story i couldn't afford to build that type of motor he said its a sponsor through napa i was blown away
Just a side note, in a small block Chevy, once the valves lift .600 off the seat, any further lift will not achieve any additional flow. This is per David Vizard's statement. However, with a larger rocker ratio the valves will lift off the seat quicker giving the engine better flow on the overlap. Nice build, have fun with it.
i think there might be something missing from that statement because there are small block with well over .600 lift and make 800-900 HP out of 440 inches...
Nice video bro, I can't remember if you said that you had your engine Dyno tested but I took have a small block Chevy 383 stroker, but a much smaller cam street friendly. I hope you reach your goal on the thumbs up, just don't forget about us small pions. Best wishes
U Squirreled out find a high nickel 2 Bolt it's a good platform no matter what some of these people might think.I have built plenty of Circle Track Motors running roughly the same combination and Power $6,000 for 600 horse that's a heck of a deal should plenty of good runs without any problems and yes I will share this with a few hundred friends knowledge is always going to be power✌
I built a sbc 355 with 6"rods 12.75 comp afr 210 outta the box heads and Crane nitrous solid roller 262 270@ .50 630 lift. It definitely made close to 600 im sure from how fast the car was.
I like your video. This is a first video I have watched of yours. I live down here in Redding ca. so just one state down from you. I am a big small block guy. I do race some brackets but mostly heads up grudge stuff. I gave a 1963 nova that I have owned since the late 1990s. Right now I built a 461 small block with lots of nitrous. I do all my own engine work except for the machine work obviously. But I run up there in Medford sometimes. Anyway it’s good to see the average joe out there doing his own work. Keep your videos coming, I subscribed and give ya a thumbs up.
Thanks! I'm very curious about shootout and no prep racing. I went to the last race here in medford but wasnt able to race any of the slower classes cause my truck was down. Hopefully this year!
Our engines are wthin a few deg. of being identical. I st drive mine all the time doesnt buck jerk nothing .I think I am gonna try it locked out....Heads arent quite as good as yours...if I made 560 Id be real happy. Had a set of new 220s and had to sell due to health Nice to know 600 isnt far off.
Watch that timing chain Cloyes set are great but if you are not running the right set they will stretch I use the Cloyes Race Billet sets in setup similar to yours. If the chain stretches depending on how much compression you have predation can be a problem and I will tear the engine up. I like the AED carbs these engine love the gas
i got a 450 hp 454 steel crank heavy rods high flow heads with a 02xx 400r turbo last year i got 4 set ups for free with 6,000 to 58,000 miles on them. found out what they put them in and i have been a fat kid in a candy store looking for everyone i can find. i do a lot of chevy and ford builds even got a 428 crate engine for free for my 70 high boy. but it had over a 100,000 on it so i will rebuild it and no paper work on it
ps u live in oregon do u like to buy good project rigs i have a few rust free square body trucks i live outside of bend. plus i know where a lot of rigs are. i just turned down a 68 chevelle ss 396 engine is apart but good rust free body nice and clean for 3500 and a 64 chevy 2 needs engine very good body for 1200 but they went fast . i run into things all the time.
Why is this type of stuff not more publicly known. Everyone’s so impressed with a $50,000 hellcat that makes 707 WITH a supercharger and a larger engine, meanwhile guys are building small block Chevys to make even 700 horse sometimes naturally aspirated with an damn carburetor. That’s something to brag about
Seems like a Kool dude,,, if I was working at Intel in Portland I would try to look him up and bullshit about motors HP etc. And I hit like an thumbs up lol
My brother and I are building a 67-68 327 2 bolt block that is a 383 stroker Will be tunnel rammed with duel 650 vac carbs and street driven...th400, 9 inch. Not sure what the HP will be, but we will have fun..
Heads up friend u are not going to like a tunnel ram. They do not work well on the street. I am not trying to down you at all I just have the experience and have seen and been through this. First, tunnel rams do not start and run well cold at all. They do not like to run and off idle response is very poor due to momentary lean out caused by the air volume entering the plenum from oversized throttles. Letting in so much air in so fast from their oversized openings causes the plenum to be bombarded with air that has not received its infusion of fuel, the carbs have to play catch up. They do make more power up top but also do not like partial throttle running. You would think that the long runner would help low end power but I have not seen this on the street. Being a street driven engine you will hardly ever use the top end power of ur engine. On the street you want torque and average power. More down low the better. Another thing is duel 650 carbs is way way to much carb. A 383 with duel 650's probably wouldn't even open the secondarys due to lack of vac signal at the carbs. Carb signal at idle would be almost non existant and would have to idle at 2000-2500 before the intake created enough signal and velocity to pick up fuel. A larger cam would only exasperate all these problems. Duel 390's would be much better suited and remedy some of these problems. Lean pops and backfires through the intake due to fluctuation in AFR would most likely continuously kill power valves. They would definitely have to be replaced also for much smaller ones to begin with. Tunnel rams want to be ran wide open. Fuel atomization at low rpm's is horrible, by the time it gets to the chamber it's just a shot of liquid fuel. I hope u build a great engine. These are just some of the things u might face with a tunnel ram on the street. Good luck and god bless!!!
I'm in northern California and yeah I have got next day delivery from Summit a few times, but usually I get everything 2nd day. I really used to like when they was no sales tax from Nevada and they m had the $100 coupon off $1000 almost every month!
Basically the same engine I had in my ‘63 Chevy ll. Mine had Dart Pro 1 heads, 230 flow. Had a 12 bolt posi with 4.10 gears. It ran strong but wasn’t very streetable.
If you were 30 right now you would have a computer job and build computers. Most oldies know carbs and most youngins know efi when it comes to motors. You seem like all of us, great video.
@@zeuso.1947 I haven’t messed with the tig too much lately. We just moved about a month ago and I’m still working at setting up my new shop… hey, thanks for subscribing!!
Not hard to do today. You can buy the best of everything off the shelf. AFR heads Dart Block eagle rotating assembly . Back on the 80s it was different
Right on being safe out there driving all the time.been driving when I got out of the army in the 1982 off and on still doing it, so being safe I am. I had a bad month last year and month December the 7 my 18 year old out of three boys, he left to go to work two miles from house hit a semi truck head on he died. not truck drivers fault, he’s ok just a broke leg. then my father is die ing with pancreatic cancer he has maybe a month, and then my brothers wife died the 30 of December all in one month. so trying hard to get through it all, waiting on autopsy to see why my son hit the semi head on. He was a good son, every much like, turned 18 July 25 2021 . Got him a pickup truck 2008 4 wheel drive dodge, he started at 14 with the firefighter department. he loved helping people, well I let you know a little of me what I am going through and so I’ll see ya next time see ya bye bye.
Lol I commented on other account anyways man I'm getting ready to work on my Malibu next month it has a 350 sbc not sure what done to it my friend used to race it car was pretty fast but I'm not sure what to do with it like would a 383 stroker kit be good ? Or a bore it over it has heads 650 carb intake headers straight piped turbo 350 trans any advice??
I had A old intake like this......about 13 years ago ran with a big tall chrome 😅 thermostat housing****** I turned her to the moon*** had 820 proforma ,,,,Proforma HEI 😅😅😅😊😊😊
Respectable power numbers especially for the price. Need to check your base fuel consumption should be the highest near Peak torque. Also try a 108 Centerline for a wider torque curve. Also guarantee more power with 1050 3 stage dominator!
Almost 1.5 ftlb/ ci. I say he got it pretty close to nuts on. 600 HP from 5800-7000. Track only. Why give any of that up? I also think this is real close to what Vizard would spec. I would have to dig out the books to be certain.
@@andrewkelly1225 I believe this is the right cam for what I'm doing with this set up. I have tossed around the idea of nitrous in the future and in that case I may be looking at a different cam, but for now it seems well matched
Like looking in the mirror bud lol, I love to put my own engines together, I have an 88 foxbody and have been 10.50s so far with a 347 turbo setup, now I've put a 363 with 88mm turbo and can't wait to see how this one runs
wow! i am building a 374 cubic inch daily driver pump gas engine. its 302 based and looks like a 302 when it is done, i am getting the dart large bore 302 for it and finish bore to 4.185" and the deck at 8.2" , it has 302 mains with 4 bolt mains, its just for a daily driver street car. 5.4" rods, 3.4" stroke, would be a 347 in a stock 302 block. The piston is an inch and barely something so there you go, it may not like boost as i am going with a 2618 low expansion , kind of like a hypereutectic piston i guess, but the modern take on a hyper forging, its good material others say, or a mahle piston, well i think that is the piston i am shall use, it shall have pump gas and good drivability so not big power, yet shall be great in a daily driver N/A. Plan on using trick flow R series heads, probably the 180-200cc runners instead of the 170 but who knows yet, with a smallish hydraulic or even small solid roller cam. and a 5 speed and 8.8 rear end. could go into a pinto, any mustang , or even camaro or whatever, i would like to put it into a vette, any camaro, 67-69 firebird or factory five 65 or 32 coupe also.
great build ......looking to build something simular for a nova street car ....can you get a roller cam that could make about same number give or take..?..
Do you mean hydraulic roller? I'm sure you can find something very similar to the solid roller in this motor. It might not have the rpm capability though.... I'd call comp cams and ask them... the part number for this cam is 12-908-9 to use a reference
Very impressive Power numbers I’m curious of the compression that you wound up with and are they flat top pistons or dome and what was the cc or if you happen to have the part number for the Pistons? thanks scott
$6k-$10k is a wide spread and prices can be all over the place depending on deals you may get or parts you already have… I built this motor a couple years ago and the heads for example were $1835 for a set and now they’re about $2300… I have another motor in the works and when I video it I’ll try to break it down a bit more.. thanks!😃
What a stout motor! Love it, that’s what research and lots of thinking gets you instead of just slapping one together with a hoj poj of parts! Oh and what gas do you use?
I want to add, I'm a thinker and study like you, always have been. I have a 400 sbc in my 69 Corvette and it'll probably stay that way. I always wanted a 600hp sbc but unfortunately it's not very streetable. You did a great job with excellent parts selection and spent the money in the right places ! Love this build !
Skip White Performance (kings port tenn.) i have a 421 it will eat asphalt no lie
@@theodoregunterskip white has some good engines......
I’m about to build a sbc400 for my 71 C3. Any advice? 😅
I'm a lot like yourself. I built my 1st engine at 15 yrs old. I bought and read the book called how to Hotrod a small block Chevy. Read it cover to cover multiple times. I got my hands on an older Chevy station wagon. Well the wagon was loaded from the factory. Everything was heavy duty and built to tow. I only really wanted the Turbo 400 transmission it had. Come to find out it was a 4 bolt main block. I followed a step by step approach to build an exact replica of the 1970 LT1 375 hp 350. I think it was 375 or 370. Not sure now. It was more than 40 yrs ago. But I had all of the right parts. Fulie 202 heads, a steel crank, the factory Winters 4 barrel intake and the optional 3972178 solid lifter cam. Although I did use a set of Harlan Sharp roller rockers. That motor ripped!
Keep up the good work. Love reading these types of stories. There's still a few of us, of this dying breed, left in the world.
Me too. Still have that book. Have a 496 now.
Its hillarious to watch internet experts keep saying, "get rid of your first generation Chevy small block, you can't make any streetable power out of those, you need an LS". bullshift. back in the days of the big three--cam, carb, and compression--it wasn't easy to get past 400 hp when only a set of stock fuelie heads were available, but the days of "only Crane Fireball heads" or a trip to Joe Mondello are done and over. But the LS fans still let these first gen stuff go for dirt cheap, so let 'em keep complaining.
The deal with the LS is that it has a deep skirt Y block design that creates a large crankcase volume, reducing pumping losses on the pistons as they descend like a parachute, while the valve angles are the same as a Pontiac V8 and the cathedral ports flow as much air as most aftermarket chevy engine ports.
The LS platform has its advantages for sure. For me, I'm a bit old school and like the stuff I cut my teeth on.
You are correct, back in the day 450hp was a street killer and took lots of work to get there. Today 600 plus is a simple deal
Hey keep in mind there were cars from Detroit rated at 250hp but that was at 1,800 rpm so at almost idle for insurance reasons. Like the 302 chevy. You could get 500 out of them on Friday and race on Saturday
@@philthelawnman Agreed, and I don't mean to sound like a flathead V8 fan in 1965 knocking the new GTO tripower. The LS design and the new Hemi can make affordable power on a dyno. But then you buy everything necessary to fit into an engine compartment not designed for it (ie, $400 throttle by wire gas pedals, $1,000 electronic steering systems, etc) and the cost hits you then. Ford is accused of overrating their FE engines from the 1960's, but for the most part you're right even with the old rating system of open exhaust and no alternators on, there was an underrating.
Chevy even learned a lesson from the Hemi--the first street 426's were built loose to get them out there and winning, expected to be bought by owners who would tear them down to blueprint. problem was, rich kids would buy the hottest thing the dealer had and come right back with intake bolts in the intake manifold. so when chevy came out with the L88, it was 430 hp--and the L71 tripower, designed for the street and warantees, was rated at 435 so that non racers and vets home with combat pay would grab the L71 427 instead and not bug the dealerships with the issues of a full-outhouse race engine in their corvettes. but we all knew it made a lot more.
I SEE OLD SCHOOL SMALL BLOCKS AT THE DRAG STRIP STILL KICKIN ASS,YOU CAN KEEP THAT COMPUTERIZED LS GARBAGE, I WILL KEEP THE ORANGE MOTOR
@@ljbrizo MUH GEN II BLOCK BRUH
Scott, Your not a ordinary guy your a exordinary fellow Hot Rodder and I truly appreciate how humble & Honest you are... & that you share yourself with the world !
Thanks my fellow Drag Racer 🏁
Alot of "non" engine builders have created some pretty bad add engines! Thanks for the video
thank you!
I've always been a big fan of the "Gladiator 350" build from the early 00's. It made 524hp from a ZZ4 bottom end, AFR 190 heads, Comp 254/260 solid roller with 5.83 lift on 92 octane.
Standard bore?
There is no better feeling than building an engine that takes all the punishment you can throw at it in bracket racing. Pride of the build is tantamount.
Thanks for watching! and great use of a rarely used word!
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 Well, that's tantamount to an insult to others!! ha ha ha
Lol, bracket racing. You can bracket race a Prius. Reliability and consistency isn't hard on engines lol
Never watched any of your stuff before, and haven't even got to the meat of the video yet. But after ~2 minutes, you've got a new subscriber! I relate to what you said in those first couple minutes, and I especially appreciate your clear and eloquent delivery.
Wow! Thank you so much!
Great job. Real motor for real guys. I don't think people realize how dependable a motor like that is. Circle track guys run prepped 2 bolt blocks all the time. If you never use more nitrous than it should have, no problems. In the early 90s my running buddy had a 79 C10 with w 2bolt cast 400 crank and 5.65 rods swinging cast pistons. He put over 10 bottles thru that mill in the next couple of years before he broke a ring gland. It smoked but, ran. we pulled it down and replace 1 piston. The tune determines how something lives. If you need 4 bolt mains, steel h beams and super expensive pistons, you might need wiggle for poor tuning practices. You did a great job and will have many runs with that combo. Best of luck to you. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Prosytem built my carb for 421 Chevy.995 cfm….will never run an out of the box carb again!running same heads as you and custom grind comp solid roller.
Got a 421 build brewing in my head…
421 Chevy is kinda a pain in the ass to build.small base circle cam,special pushrods,lifters,timing chain,all the clearancing,ect.I get to ever do another hot rod,Iam slapping in a 525horsr LS crate.Cant recommend the Liberty Gear TKO600 Pro trans enough though!
Not a engine builder but I’m still running my 454 bored over to a 502 in my 84 cutlass that motor has been going strong since I had it built in 2004 loved the video information brother glad to see someone doing somthing they love it’s a hobby somthing I always tell my buds it’s in us not on us
454 bored to a 502…? I’ve only seen a 454 bored to a 468, safely. At 502ci, on a 454ci block, you’d be through the cylinder walls.
@@erikhyde7625 Exactly.
@@erikhyde7625 they will go to 496 with longer stroke but yes you’re correct
Lol I got a 454 125 over and a stroked crank that is a 505 cubic inch , runs great no over heating 1/8 mi at a time , Also got a 496 also . 565 is next but requires a after market block
Not going to get 48cubic inches with just overbored.
Love your down to earth attitude 🇭🇲👍
Thank you, I appreciate that!
Fellow Oregonian here love the content of the channel love the monster your building great work man
Awesome! Thank you!
Never saw your channel before but I subscribed because you are interesting and your intro is right to the facts... thanx.. I have a 383 sbc 535hp 522 to all under 6000 rpm
Thank you!..... That sounds like a stout motor!
Have to baby it while driving😅
That's a nice build my 427 60 over only made a few more hp and I have all good parts I have afr heads Howard's hydraulic roller but I built this for my daily driver that's why I went with the hydraulic roller it's only ly 235x241@50 618 lift I do have a solid roller for the motor that's a Lil bit bigger but I'm happy with it I made 661 hp at 6000 rpm and 605 torque I was thinking of putting it in a s10 but it going in my 88 monte carlo SS
good video my brother you sound like you been a mechanic your whole life....listening to you talk nobody will never know you drive trucks.....
Thank you!... I've been working on stuff my whole life... I learned by handing my Dad the wrong wrench! LOL
i ran a .700 lift in my small block on the street. it was in a pro street 55 chevy, it worked great. i now run a .750 lift in my Nova. big cams on the street get a bad rap.
I’ve heard of people running big cams on the street without issue… what duration are you running?
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 ,276 in .284 ex at .050, in, 110 lc.
@@robertweitlauf4653Is that with 700 lift or 750 lift?
I am an engine builder. I was skeptical at the start of this video. Youve done well with that combination. Theres nothing that will ever supercede paying attention to detail! Youre getting 406 numbers out of that!
I’m like you, a guy building in the driveway. About to put together my second SBC (a 400) and plan on using Summit for much of it. Great job on the build!
Just came across this video and really enjoyed it. I don't race but had a couple of street cars built on a tight budget that ran OK. My approach is pretty much like yours. I am just starting a channel and will be up in the next month or so. I just subscibed and will be watching your other vids.
Great job showing and telling, I am a truck driver to and I have a old 350 motor do not know the year. I wood like to fix it one day later cause I am fixing my 460 Ford motor right now. just wanted to put headers on it broke six bolts off in the head.so now I am going to just rebuild it, it needs it it a1990 f350 long bed. So it’s had a hard working life so I’ll rebuild it. well good telling ya about it and thanks again for showing telling well see ya next time see ya bye.
I had a 460 in a 91 super duty (F450) dump truck back when my wife and I owned a tree service. That thing was a beast, but It would run a bit hot. I could totally see exhaust manifold bolts breaking on a motor like that.
Thanks for watching and be safe out there!
What you said in the begining of this video is so true. It's all about doing it your self and having fun and being a part of it. Not just buying a fast car and bragging about it.
Gotta do what ya can with what ya got!
You are awesome..need more guys like you👍
Love how you explained you're approach to engine building, its exactly how I think about it all too. Great channel by the way!
I have been around racing 1965 till know. Have a1969 chevelle 355 SD in it. No 600 hp. But 425 hp. 390 gr. 350t Trans. Bilt by hills Trans in Clio mi. Home bilt with a lot of help ft a buddy . Ran. 12s at a track in mi. Must say I was shocked when I saw the slip. I in joyed vid on your 377..
Chevy engine I 2 drove truck 4 40 yrs in mi. Like 2 see u race . Be safe. 10 4
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"Copy that" on the local truck driver. I'm at that point where I need to decide on an engine for my c3 vette. Well over due for a new engine. Thanks for the video. It was very helpful. 👍
Thanks!
Local trucker myself and do the exact same. Truck full of catalogs and parts books. Building a 383 for my 69 c10 with 4spd muncie
All the pat mussi rolling thunder series cams are a 112 -114 Center line and he builds great engines ,love your honesty that engine makes good horse power ,good choice with the bigger carb
With 13.2:1, 384.6 cubes and a 2.10" 23° setup, I'd probably run 109 lobe centerline (or the 106 he has at 11.5:1 or less and 112 at 14.5:1, 114 at 15.5:1...). And I'd target the duration based off what I thought overlap should be for that combination.
So I'd guess he's probably making more avg power with a 106 vs a 112-114 in this case.
cool wish we had all these great heads -parts 40 yrs ago im on east coast and summit ships very fast here too
This is a cool video about the camshaft im a budget drag car builder im building my last one at age 50 its an altered dragster my boss is building me a 383 cool story i couldn't afford to build that type of motor he said its a sponsor through napa i was blown away
Just a side note, in a small block Chevy, once the valves lift .600 off the seat, any further lift will not achieve any additional flow.
This is per David Vizard's statement.
However, with a larger rocker ratio the valves will lift off the seat quicker giving the engine better flow on the overlap.
Nice build, have fun with it.
Thanks!
i think there might be something missing from that statement because there are small block with well over .600 lift and make 800-900 HP out of 440 inches...
i like this guy super simple straight to the point seems like i super nice guy
Thank you very much!
2 minutes in I had to hit the subscribe button, thank you sir!
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
I enjoy designing my own engines too.
Sweet engine, thanks for sharing! I'm sick of the damn secrets.
Thanks for watching!
If everone was open just imagine the outstanding builds that would come
Love your videos, keep them coming, would like to see your car making some passes......
Nice video bro,
I can't remember if you said that you had your engine Dyno tested but I took have a small block Chevy 383 stroker, but a much smaller cam street friendly. I hope you reach your goal on the thumbs up, just don't forget about us small pions.
Best wishes
Enjoyed this. Gives me hope I can get there too.
Thanks for watching!
Good stuff. 👍🏻 glad your humble and willing to help.
Thank you!
U Squirreled out find a high nickel 2 Bolt it's a good platform no matter what some of these people might think.I have built plenty of Circle Track Motors running roughly the same combination and Power $6,000 for 600 horse that's a heck of a deal should plenty of good runs without any problems and yes I will share this with a few hundred friends knowledge is always going to be power✌
Awesome! Thank you!
I built a sbc 355 with 6"rods 12.75 comp afr 210 outta the box heads and Crane nitrous solid roller 262 270@ .50 630 lift. It definitely made close to 600 im sure from how fast the car was.
Sounds like a stout motor!
I like your video. This is a first video I have watched of yours. I live down here in Redding ca. so just one state down from you. I am a big small block guy. I do race some brackets but mostly heads up grudge stuff. I gave a 1963 nova that I have owned since the late 1990s. Right now I built a 461 small block with lots of nitrous. I do all my own engine work except for the machine work obviously. But I run up there in Medford sometimes. Anyway it’s good to see the average joe out there doing his own work. Keep your videos coming, I subscribed and give ya a thumbs up.
Thanks! I'm very curious about shootout and no prep racing. I went to the last race here in medford but wasnt able to race any of the slower classes cause my truck was down. Hopefully this year!
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 hopefully see you up there this year 👍👍👍
@@Crazyhorseracing461 I look forward to it!
Love this video. I would have like to see the difference between to smaller 750 carb and the larger one.
Our engines are wthin a few deg. of being identical. I st drive mine all the time doesnt buck jerk nothing .I think I am gonna try it locked out....Heads arent quite as good as yours...if I made 560 Id be real happy. Had a set of new 220s and had to sell due to health
Nice to know 600 isnt far off.
Watch that timing chain Cloyes set are great but if you are not running the right set they will stretch I use the Cloyes Race Billet sets in setup similar to yours. If the chain stretches depending on how much compression you have predation can be a problem and I will tear the engine up. I like the AED carbs these engine love the gas
Yes sir! I cant remember off hand which model it is but, its one of the good ones
Excellent video! Loved the video!! I been thinking of building a 350 chev for my car and This put me in the right direction!! Thank you
i got a 450 hp 454 steel crank heavy rods high flow heads with a 02xx 400r turbo last year i got 4 set ups for free with 6,000 to 58,000 miles on them. found out what they put them in and i have been a fat kid in a candy store looking for everyone i can find. i do a lot of chevy and ford builds even got a 428 crate engine for free for my 70 high boy. but it had over a 100,000 on it so i will rebuild it and no paper work on it
Good parts!
ps u live in oregon do u like to buy good project rigs i have a few rust free square body trucks i live outside of bend. plus i know where a lot of rigs are. i just turned down a 68 chevelle ss 396 engine is apart but good rust free body nice and clean for 3500 and a 64 chevy 2 needs engine very good body for 1200 but they went fast . i run into things all the time.
@@jeffrey4547 I love a good deal!
@@jeffrey4547 I’ve been playing around with the idea of building a daily driver square body
Of course, why not, You got a new subscriber in me, humble and great content Scott, thanks
Thank you!!
Home Built not Bought Ordinary Guy Garage you remind me of my dad we built a Fully Homemade Hotrod with a SBC 400
Thank you very much for the content and information, keep making this good stuff sir.
Good Build Truck Driver!
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Great Content Budd !!!WOW,,,, Best one I seen yet !! LOVE THE DETAILS, CAM SPECS, COMP, ECT,,, 🇺🇸💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thank you! No secrets here!
Why is this type of stuff not more publicly known. Everyone’s so impressed with a $50,000 hellcat that makes 707 WITH a supercharger and a larger engine, meanwhile guys are building small block Chevys to make even 700 horse sometimes naturally aspirated with an damn carburetor. That’s something to brag about
Thank you!
Wishing you the best of health hopefully see you soon
Seems like a Kool dude,,, if I was working at Intel in Portland I would try to look him up and bullshit about motors HP etc. And I hit like an thumbs up lol
Great video I like people doing the low budget stuff with a good parts race on brother
Thanks for watching!
Great video, great job on the build. AG
My brother and I are building a 67-68 327 2 bolt block that is a 383 stroker
Will be tunnel rammed with duel 650 vac carbs and street driven...th400, 9 inch.
Not sure what the HP will be, but we will have fun..
Heck yeah! Sounds cool
Heads up friend u are not going to like a tunnel ram. They do not work well on the street. I am not trying to down you at all I just have the experience and have seen and been through this. First, tunnel rams do not start and run well cold at all. They do not like to run and off idle response is very poor due to momentary lean out caused by the air volume entering the plenum from oversized throttles. Letting in so much air in so fast from their oversized openings causes the plenum to be bombarded with air that has not received its infusion of fuel, the carbs have to play catch up. They do make more power up top but also do not like partial throttle running. You would think that the long runner would help low end power but I have not seen this on the street. Being a street driven engine you will hardly ever use the top end power of ur engine. On the street you want torque and average power. More down low the better. Another thing is duel 650 carbs is way way to much carb. A 383 with duel 650's probably wouldn't even open the secondarys due to lack of vac signal at the carbs. Carb signal at idle would be almost non existant and would have to idle at 2000-2500 before the intake created enough signal and velocity to pick up fuel. A larger cam would only exasperate all these problems. Duel 390's would be much better suited and remedy some of these problems. Lean pops and backfires through the intake due to fluctuation in AFR would most likely continuously kill power valves. They would definitely have to be replaced also for much smaller ones to begin with. Tunnel rams want to be ran wide open. Fuel atomization at low rpm's is horrible, by the time it gets to the chamber it's just a shot of liquid fuel. I hope u build a great engine. These are just some of the things u might face with a tunnel ram on the street. Good luck and god bless!!!
@@danieljames5875 where you located? I'm in Australia ..
@@Mr07obrien I'm in oklahoma USA. The one and only 405
Good job..
Now it's time to have more fun
Scorpion rockers went bad on my buddys motor, the bearings on the tip
Of the rockers, on a much milder cam for the street.
Pretty cool, bet that thing's a lotta fun!
I'm in northern California and yeah I have got next day delivery from Summit a few times, but usually I get everything 2nd day. I really used to like when they was no sales tax from Nevada and they m had the $100 coupon off $1000 almost every month!
Thank you for your video. I like your style
Basically the same engine I had in my ‘63 Chevy ll. Mine had Dart Pro 1 heads, 230 flow. Had a 12 bolt posi with 4.10 gears. It ran strong but wasn’t very streetable.
If you were 30 right now you would have a computer job and build computers. Most oldies know carbs and most youngins know efi when it comes to motors. You seem like all of us, great video.
What size domes do you have on your pistons,love your channel.
Awesome Scott
Thanks - what is the compression buddy?
Very impressive Hp/Ci & Trq/Ci numbers great job!
Thank you!
Someday when you're rich, consider a Holley Hi-rise tunnel ram with dual quads. That package would love it.
It would look really cool too!
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 It would indeed, and from what I've seen on dyno tests, it would increase low and mid range torque and top end HP.
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 I subscribed; looking for more videos with that engine.
And hope your TIG welding is going well.
@@zeuso.1947 I haven’t messed with the tig too much lately. We just moved about a month ago and I’m still working at setting up my new shop… hey, thanks for subscribing!!
@@zeuso.1947, don't you know!? Tunnel rams are top end only! They kill bottom end! (I read it on ALL the forums, so it must be true.) ; )
Great video boss.
Not hard to do today. You can buy the best of everything off the shelf. AFR heads Dart Block eagle rotating assembly . Back on the 80s it was different
Great build!! What compression ratio did you end up with? Thanks!
Right on being safe out there driving all the time.been driving when I got out of the army in the 1982 off and on still doing it, so being safe I am. I had a bad month last year and month December the 7 my 18 year old out of three boys, he left to go to work two miles from house hit a semi truck head on he died. not truck drivers fault, he’s ok just a broke leg. then my father is die ing with pancreatic cancer he has maybe a month, and then my brothers wife died the 30 of December all in one month. so trying hard to get through it all, waiting on autopsy to see why my son hit the semi head on. He was a good son, every much like, turned 18 July 25 2021 . Got him a pickup truck 2008 4 wheel drive dodge, he started at 14 with the firefighter department. he loved helping people, well I let you know a little of me what I am going through and so I’ll see ya next time see ya bye bye.
My heart goes out to you and your family... Hang in there my friend
Fellow Oregonian. Nice build. Not much different than mine. What city are you close to ? What track do you run? Weight of your truck? ET ? Thanks.
Dang, I wish there was a video just like this for a Pontiac 400.
You deserve a million not just a thousand.
Alright Scott I am the same about driving trucks and building HP engine for my pickup trucks. Thanks for the information 👍
Lol I commented on other account anyways man I'm getting ready to work on my Malibu next month it has a 350 sbc not sure what done to it my friend used to race it car was pretty fast but I'm not sure what to do with it like would a 383 stroker kit be good ? Or a bore it over it has heads 650 carb intake headers straight piped turbo 350 trans any advice??
Sound like my Malibu, undecided on my motor choice. Had a 350 in it with a nice cam.. was thinking LS or should I go wit a 400 or 406 idk
I had A old intake like this......about 13 years ago ran with a big tall chrome 😅 thermostat housing****** I turned her to the moon*** had 820 proforma ,,,,Proforma HEI 😅😅😅😊😊😊
Sbc content...Yes pls! Had to sub, great content here to be seen
Thank you for watching! I have another build planned that should be happening soon
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 sweet!
Respectable power numbers especially for the price. Need to check your base fuel consumption should be the highest near Peak torque. Also try a 108 Centerline for a wider torque curve. Also guarantee more power with 1050 3 stage dominator!
I would like to try a different cam... maybe on the next build
Almost 1.5 ftlb/ ci. I say he got it pretty close to nuts on. 600 HP from 5800-7000. Track only. Why give any of that up? I also think this is real close to what Vizard would spec. I would have to dig out the books to be certain.
@@andrewkelly1225 I believe this is the right cam for what I'm doing with this set up. I have tossed around the idea of nitrous in the future and in that case I may be looking at a different cam, but for now it seems well matched
Thanks for the video , made great power .
Thanks for watching!
Nice engine build.
I am a new subscriber to your channel.
Take care, Ed.
Thank you!
Like looking in the mirror bud lol, I love to put my own engines together, I have an 88 foxbody and have been 10.50s so far with a 347 turbo setup, now I've put a 363 with 88mm turbo and can't wait to see how this one runs
wow! i am building a 374 cubic inch daily driver pump gas engine. its 302 based and looks like a 302 when it is done, i am getting the dart large bore 302 for it and finish bore to 4.185" and the deck at 8.2" , it has 302 mains with 4 bolt mains, its just for a daily driver street car. 5.4" rods, 3.4" stroke, would be a 347 in a stock 302 block. The piston is an inch and barely something so there you go, it may not like boost as i am going with a 2618 low expansion , kind of like a hypereutectic piston i guess, but the modern take on a hyper forging, its good material others say, or a mahle piston, well i think that is the piston i am shall use, it shall have pump gas and good drivability so not big power, yet shall be great in a daily driver N/A. Plan on using trick flow R series heads, probably the 180-200cc runners instead of the 170 but who knows yet, with a smallish hydraulic or even small solid roller cam. and a 5 speed and 8.8 rear end. could go into a pinto, any mustang , or even camaro or whatever, i would like to put it into a vette, any camaro, 67-69 firebird or factory five 65 or 32 coupe also.
You got BIG tourques in that engine, and it would be great in the street in a Chevelle.
It will put you back in the seat!
@@ordinaryguygarage3667 it's amazing what we have access to today. We have better information and a little less sales hype
@@DANTHETUBEMAN all the information we need is at our fingertips… we do however, have to weed through a bit of misinformation here and there
earned a new subscriber. I love videos like this. Definitely going to put some of these parts on order for my s10 blazer.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Question, while watching videos and studying engine performance, do you ever watch David Vizard? If so, what do you think about his philosophy?
great build ......looking to build something simular for a nova street car ....can you get a roller cam that could make about same number give or take..?..
Do you mean hydraulic roller? I'm sure you can find something very similar to the solid roller in this motor. It might not have the rpm capability though.... I'd call comp cams and ask them... the part number for this cam is 12-908-9 to use a reference
Good video thanks for posting and thanks for the tips!
What state you from bud? Thanks Murray
Very impressive Power numbers I’m curious of the compression that you wound up with and are they flat top pistons or dome and what was the cc or if you happen to have the part number for the Pistons? thanks scott
I'm interested in the piston part number and the compression ratio too
This video just earned you another sub
So what are the piston again. Can't make out the name got 3.40 over 8cc dome just not the name good video
Probe pistons
Big spread between 6k and 10K. Can you do a video that's more price specific? Otherwise I enjoyed the content very much.
$6k-$10k is a wide spread and prices can be all over the place depending on deals you may get or parts you already have… I built this motor a couple years ago and the heads for example were $1835 for a set and now they’re about $2300…
I have another motor in the works and when I video it I’ll try to break it down a bit more.. thanks!😃
High nickel high tin is a good thing to me a 4 bolt main doesn't matter ,good heads what's the valve size and runner size
I'm gonna keep coming back to this video when I'm building up my '91 k2500 350 SB it's already lowered on 28s
Thanks for watching!
Good job!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!!
Thank you!
Thanks
What a stout motor! Love it, that’s what research and lots of thinking gets you instead of just slapping one together with a hoj poj of parts! Oh and what gas do you use?
Currently it runs on 110 but I think for next season I’m going to run e85
Greetings, what was the part # for your stud girdles and what kind or how tall are your valve covers? Thanks