Im a 2% guy, typically I'll round down if using curing salt and go 1.6% if adding cheese or bacon. I've definitely got a higher salt tolerance than some (age 32). Funny enough during the Super Bowl I fed 4-5 people aging from 24-36 a 2% sausage and asked them if it was too salty, they all said "its perfect but don't add any more"
@Chuds BBQ you were my inspiration for getting into making sausage and bacon. For sausage I tend to do around 1.5% salt and for bacon I tend to do around 2% salt.
65 years old. I'm a 1.5% guy. Been making sausage for 6 years. Used commercial mixes at first. Most are way too salty. Been making my own mixes for over 5 years. Love your knowledge and your show. Great video.
Well, as a rookie sausage maker, I just made my first sausage that was of my own recipe a few days ago. My wife is very sensitive to anything with heat, to include black pepper. She also really likes chicken so I decided to challenge myself and make her an 80% chicken sausage (60 white, 20 dark with skin, 20 fatty pork). I went with a roasted garlic, green onion, rosemary spice profile and (wait for it) 2.5% salt. On the test patty my first thought was it was too salty. She said don't change a thing. After the links were made and they sat overnight we both loved it just like it was. I'm 57 and she's 60 😁 I could definitely see hovering closer to 2% with other flavor profiles though and I still have LOTS of practice/experimentation ahead. Loving your channel!
Welp I'm sold. I did 2% for the longest time but the fact 1.5 did good protein extraction and I often add extra seasoning and flavorings to try 1.5% next. Awesome video. Thank you
I found your channel from @ChudsBbq; the two of you have been a wealth of knowledge. I have been making breakfast sausage for a long time. Thanks to your two channels I have made my first batch of linked pork sausage for the Super Bowl. They were a hit; I am looking forward to learning and making more in the future. Thank you for all the information.
Well done. 1.3-1.5%, but I only make breakfast sausage and freeze it, no curing salts. Smaller fat cap, more salt. I am 64. Thank you. God Bless and stay safe
I'm a 2% guy, and I'm 43. My wife (same age) and kids all love that level too. We tend to eat more Paleo/Keto/low carb, and salt is needed to be increased on these diets, so out tastes for salt are typically a little higher than our friends or parents (say for salting steaks, etc), but even our friends and parents love our sausage at those levels.
very informative, started out using commercial pre-mixes but find them too salty, so I make my own, some of your recipes are brilliant. about 1.5% toal salt for me. 66 years young.
I am 43 and I use 1.47% in fresh sausage....this video was informative...I would love this breakdown with cured cacciatore sausage....I have been making cured sausage for many year with Italian relatives and I am just about sick of hearing all the different way to measure salt. The best measurement I got was for every bread size pile of meat ....you should one handful of salt (Zio Philipo's hand). Thanks dad now its all clear.
Funny never thought in percentages. The formula we use for dried sausages we use 1lb salt and 4.3 oz pink cure for 80lbs of meat amazing comes out to 1.5% 20.3 ounces divided by 1,280 (80x16). I use the same formula for fresh Italian but omit the cure so 1 lb salt divided by 80 is 1.25%. The cured and fresh doesn’t taste salty to me and I’m 73 but been using this formula since I was 60 or a little younger. I should also say I add pepper sauce to my sausage both cured and fresh. Hot pepper sauce for hot and sweet pepper sauce for plain sausages. Great show keep it up
Per your request: I'm 70 years old and limit my fresh sausage making to only a handful of types i.e. Italian (I use salt, parsley, red pepper flakes, grated parmesan cheese and sometimes fennel seeds), keilbasa (only salt pepper and garlic) and jalapeno-cheddar links. My personal taste runs to 2.25% for all of these sausages...I like fresh sausage on the salty side. Anything fermented is always calculated at 3%. I also feel that a binder i.e. potato starch, powdered milk, carrot binder etc, lends to the texture and juiciness of any given recipe! Hope this helps with your research! As always, great video!
Great video Eric. I'm 75 and I knew at the start of your video I would be in the 1.5 to 1.8 % camp. Of course, if using cure adjusting for that. Thank you for your channel.
First batch of sausages, age 75 years nearly. 1.5% salt and felt it was at the very maximum. May use slightly less next time. Love the quality and clarity of the information. Thank you.
52 yo, I’m a 1.5%-er, and always thought that a titch salty. But today I learned I need to count the curing salt as part of that! Duh. Thanks! Love your recipes but this was a top 3 vid of yours for me, awesome job.
1.7% at age 58. You are the first one to say that you need to add the salt and curing salt to keep it in the right percentage. All other sausage book recipes, and online omit that part. Great work Eric!
So adding other spices often masks saltiness in my view, particularly if you go hotter, e.g. black pepper, white pepper, chilli. I was surprised that the no salt one cooked without actually falling apart completely. Thus a low salt/sodium sausage seems quite plausible if you are not fussed about the texture.
Hi Eric I’m 55 years old and 1.7 % is right on for me. However, my wife is 50 years old and if it’s above 1.5%, it’s to salty! I’m going to try the crispy chili sausage from season 5 next week. As I live in Japan, it’s easy to get my hands on some pretty interesting ingredients Cheers mate
I love the experiment. I make sausage for a bbq company and I have to follow their ratios. They do it around 1.7 and 1.9 depending on the other seasonings and meat type ratios. I’m 61 and I like my sausage 1.7 tops. With garnish, I think the salt content (after texture) is negotiable.
My sweet spot is about 1.5%. I'm just about 60 now and have been making sausage for about 15 years. I haven't noticed any change in my palate relative to getting older (though other factors do sometimes factor in). I've grown accustomed to my recipes, which may explain the lack of change. Another great video, btw. Thanks!
All this time I was under the impression that sensitivity to salt got Weaker as you got older; this now makes more sense. Most commercial bacons are too salty for me; I settled on Oscar Meyer but soon that was too salty, now I buy their "Lower Sodium" stuff. All the recipes in Ruhlman's "Charcuterie" book were too salty for me, he must've been a youngster when he wrote it!
I'd say 1.5-2. To be honest, it's what the recipe calls for and adjusted as necessary for taste. Curious though, what your thoughts are when a recipe calls for brown sugar. As the sugar has a tendency to mask the salt. Also we've noticed a difference in taste when using kosher salt compared to table salt. TYFS, another great demonstration.
I’m 35. I started at 1.5% but have gradually increased as I’ve gotten older. I’m at 1.7-2% depending on the kind of meat and whether there are any other “salty” components in my sausage. Keep up the great work Eric!
Once agen excellent focused information that helps me understand were I'm going wrong or Wright,not a lot of flakey bs that terns me off,your really one of the best channels I watch,keep up the good work,thanks!
Great video ~ ver informative. I'm personally a 2% guy, because I find once you add other seasonings then smoke it, and even more so if you add sausage to a sandwich you need the extra salt for the meat to stand out.
i recently did 2% and thought it was too salty when i made my trst patty but after stuffing and drying the casings overnight i cooked a link and it was perfect.
Hi Eric. Another stellar video! My wife and I started making our own Italian sausage several years ago. Pork, salt and black pepper. We find 1.8% to be the perfect amount for us. I’m 65 and my bride is 61.
i was a butcher for 3 years when i left the school, we used a sausage mix one for beef the other for pork, both mixes had salt and pepper and other spices, a 20lb sausage batch had 8 ounces of the sausage mix whether it was for beef or Pork link sausage and i live in Scotland
Outstanding teaching moment, as always, Eric! Since I am in the "must-have" curing salt camp, I'm thinking: Start with required grams of Pink Salt for meat weight, and then add Diamond Crystal Kosher salt until 1.5-6% is reached.
Any salt to weight works. I use Canning salt for its fineness. Also started adding the salt (and powdered spices) to the water before introducing it to the forcemeat. Depending on what's going in I'll give it a whiz in a blender.
I’m 70 and fairly new to sausage making and started out at 1.7 and that was too salty and now have tapered down to 1.2. Mixing by hand for now and that can be quite a workout (and freezing on the hands) to get to good extraction, so looking to get a stand mixer to make that more enjoyable
You KNOW I love experiments and you have completely absorbed my attention! Absolutely love this video! I never thought about age dictating the desire for salt!!!! I’m 45 and love 1.5 tsp per pound!
I'm 69 years and prefer a 1% total salts flavor. I'll extend the mix time a bit to get more protein extraction but find doing so can break down cheese or vegetable additions, which is a bummer. You timing with this post is perfect Eric, as I'm doing another batch today! I'll try a 1.25% and 1.5% (shorter mix) and see how it goes! Thanks!!
This is great information, but I want to add that once you find your preferred salt %, that it will work on that item, but may not work on another, such as dried sausages, salami, pepperoni and cured meats due to the loss of moisture. At that, the other consideration would be at what level of drying do you take your product to. For example, I take pitina to 35 wl, salami to 38 wl and bresaola to 40. Thanks for all your info! I watch ALL your videos!
Hello, great video, I like the experiment. I'm 53 and tend to lean toward 2% salt but not over, only because I prefer a good texture. I've done 2.5% salt a few times, it's not terrible you can it eat it of course, but instead of enhancing the flavor it was just too noticeable on most bites. I've dialed it back to get a better taste of the other seasonings. 2% max for good texture but that's just me.
Great video. I am on sodium restrictions and started making my own sausage recently. I currently don't add any salt but I may start adding a bit to help with flavor and texture.
Hi friend,if you are in a sodium restriction for hypertension,Iwas too,but I add more green salad and/or suplement with citrate of magnesium and potassium and adress the retaining water that cause too much sodium vs lack of potassium and magnesium,that water in blod is whah causes the high blood pressure,so it need to be removed,thats why they give you diuretics,but can be solved with nature aproach 😉
If my Math is correct at the lowest 1.25% salt that equates to 500mg of sodium/100gm of sausage. Thats a big sausage. Normally they are between 75-85gm if you buy at the shops and this varies by country but commercially usually in excess of 680mg of sodium per sausage. So two sausages often exceeds your ideal total sodium intake for a day.
I'm 70 and must be a saltaholic. I tend to use a little more salt than recipes call for in any meat product I am making. I don't mess with the amount of curing salt in the jerkys but kosher salt is usually slightly over.
When i caught the 'cough cough' it left me with an inability to taste salt for nearly two years. You could have put 7.5% and i couldn't taste it, i could taste foods and flavors just not the salt. It was a strange time in many ways and i dont miss it. Imagine dumping copious amounts of salt on eggs and no effect, i put the salt shaker away because i knew my blood pressure would have been in the 200/160 range if i went by my tastebuds. i was gifted my salt shaker back around christmas time and it started a yearly joke of gifting me a salt and pepper set for christmas... So it started a family tradition i think. 40 years old going on 85
I’m a trained cook but l’ve never made sausages; can I make your recipes without a kitchen aid mixer ? Many thanks for sharing your knowledge on salting and sausage making, very helpful 🙏😎.
I am 50 and I use 1.5% to 1.8% salt pretty much all the time for both fresh and smoked. I just made a nice beef & potato sausage that I am eating right now. Actually I am eating a few breakfast patties from the left over meat mixture my stuffer traps. This one is going to be stellar, too bad I only made 5lbs. I have been making sausage for about 30 years, really well for about the last 15. I sent you a brat recipe that many people say is beyond stellar. I don't know if you ever try the things people send.
I'm look fword to learning what the salt range is for other meats, the full spectrum of Beef - Elk, Salmon - Trout - Aropima, Chicken- turkey and all other farm raisable meat birds. Note to self I need to re watch the vid where you turned eather biltong or bresaola I think, into pemikin and see how much salt if any you seasoned the Salumi with before drying it and making it into meat powder lol thank you again for another wonderful video as a learning g resource Sir ;~) blessings be for you your family and all of my classmates. Thank you GOD for this amazing community of people to learn from 😊
62 and have been making sausage for 20 years. I went to unsalted butter in my fridge 5 years ago. I also do 15lbs of cured pork belly to bacon every month. 1.5 % for fresh sausage 2.5 % for bacon or aged sausage.
43, and have been making sausage since age 22. 1.65% has always been right for me. I can make saltier sausage palatable, but that necessitates changing spice quantities, using sugar, and potentially adding starches. Keeping the salt at 1.65% means I can lean on experience to know how much of a given spice will affect the flavor.
I made a 2% and the family felt it was a bit too salty (my wife and I are 48, son is 18) - Ive settled into 1.5%, but I’ll often add cheese, or bacon, or curing salts, so I prob end up around 1.7%
The few recipes I've made out of Ruhlman's "Charcuterie" (been a few years, I'm 64) were all too salty for me, and the only commercial bacon I can eat anymore is Oscar Meyer's "Low Sodium"; I can't eat Fritos or Doritos anymore, used to be my favorite snax. I had read years ago that older folks needed MORE salt, and my Dad certainly seemed that way, but I think it was because of his smoking (tobacco, not pork!) Glad to learn it's the opposite, and I've already made adjustments (so many ewetubers add salt AND soy sauce to their stir fries, I'm fine with just a bit of soy. )
Wow Eric, what an amazing video. I love these type of videos to where you can actually visualize what the differences are. One other question for you, Eric do you have a fat to meat ratio calculator that’s good.
My sweet spot is 1.3% for pork, seafood, and Chicken (white meats), 1.5% for beef and lamb(red meats). I find most sausage at BBQ joints is too salty around 2.0%. 48. My entire family, kids and adults, prefer 1.3%. Anything over 1.5 and the too salty complaints roll in. Must be genetic.
Hi Eric . i must of seen all most all your sausage/salami videos now. thought i would say hi and thank you, and give you a giggle so got all my stuff for my red wine chrizzo yummy first dry cure sausage all in fridge mixed ready waiting. cases on side soaking in a little salt and water go to work. come back dog ate my cases found your channel watched pitina they smell lovely in my fridge thank you
I’m 26 years old and I tend to use 2%! I like the saltiness, but sometimes I find that 2% can be a at the maximum of what I want. I’m making a batch of medisterpølse this week and I’m thinking of going to 1.8% to see if that helps me maintain some of the delicate balance that I love in medister. A cool video idea that I’d love to see is the percentage of liquid used in sausage. I noticed that in a lot of medisterpølse recipes there’s roughly 30% water by weight of the meat, but other people in general sausage making tend to stick to 10% or in this video 5%. Medister tends to use some kind of starch and egg as a binder, but I wonder if all sausages could use more liquid or if it interferes with the binding of the proteins. Another thing I’d like to see is this experiment but with gelatine powder mixed into the farce to see how gelatine works in a sausage, and if that enhances the experience or diminishes it.
I'm 45, and most of my recipes use 1.35%, but I have a couple at 1.5%. I flipped through a couple of Marianski's books to see if the older shelf stable recipes used heavy salt. I thought they would, but not really. Most his recipes were in the range of 1.8-2%, but most were at 1.8%, even for shelf stable sausages. I then thought, what the heck, what do my own old family and neighbors' recipes have (all from 19th century Luxembourg immigrants to the US). The salt measurements are a bit of a guess as they are given in tea cups per 45 or 50lb. I did the math though, and here is what I think it comes to for three farmer sausage recipes: 1.8%, 1.8%, 1.5%, but who knows the exact size of the tea cups. The old timers knew how to make sausage though. The only sketchy bit is the cure. None of the recipes have a qty, they just list "salt petre". I switched my recipes over to cure #1, but many of the old farmers in my area still use salt petre. From my observations, their sausage has a less pronounced cure, basically little to no pink at all when cooked. Not sure if that is due to the quantity or the type of cure, or maybe based on their cure time. No idea how they decided how much salt petre to add, but I do know that they all always did a test cook of a patty before stuffing, then they would all have a bite and argue about it it needed more of. They cold smoked at night starting in about late October with pretty typical cold smoke temps, probably 30-55F. I see southerners go with hot smoke and finish cooking their sausage right in the smoker. I don't actually own a vertical smoker that can heat up. None of the old timers up north did really. They all would boil or pan fry their sausage after cold smoking in a fairly well ventilated wooden smoke house (big enough to handle a few butchered hogs at once). I might try a hot smoke and then bake sometime like the southerners do just to see how my sausage turns out when done that way. That might let me make sausage in the summer. Still though, my meat room relies on cold outside air. I have a small ventilation fan that pulls the room temp down to about 50F, and a wooden cold box cooled by the same fan that will stay below 40F when I using the cold room to make sausage. The cold room was a game changer for my sausage making. I wouldn't want to give that up for summer processing.
I’m firmly in the 1.8 camp at 54years that only for fresh sausage, though. Smoked sausages run up to about 2%. I do something different when making sausage though. We separate the lean from the fatty and add 4.5% salt to the lean then when we mix i the fat and fatty meat, we add just enough salt to get back to that 1.8%. I think that makes for maximal protein over all. Not all my team agrees with me on that. We also keep the lean salted for a minimum of 24hrs prior to grinding. What are your thoughts. Thanks for that best sausage channel on the internet.
Eric, I usually use your recipe calculator and am pleased with the texture and salt content of the sausages I make so I am guessing that’s set at 1.5%. I am 71 years old
As with everything, i think it depends... on the meat and binder. In general in pork sausage i like 1.1 typically to nearest 5 grames, so 1.1-1.3 is golden. I use non fat dry milk which really seems to hide the salt. For beef i usually go 1.3, but sometimes even 1.5 if it's a fattier sausage.
Eric, I'm 60 and have been using 1.5%. there is a bit of saltiness in my Italian style sausage, but my breakfast sausage tastes fine at that amount. I'm going to try 1.25% for my next batch of Italian or German bratworst.
I'm curious as to how smoking the sausage changes the perceived salt content. I ask because I use a dry rub for chicken that has a number of ingredients that use x-spice salt for the large majority of the ingredients. For example, it uses onion salt, garlic salt etc. If we cook the chicken in the smoker, it's great. If we cook the chicken in a conventional oven, it's damn near inedible. Sugar also seems to have a masking effect as mentioned by another poster below.
Enjoying your videos. Been making sausage for several years and looking to kick my game up. Possibly a food truck in the future. Salt has always been an issue for me. I am 45 and recently have been very sensitive to salt content. My sausages tend to be a little heavy with salt but nobody is complaining except me. For 12lbs I put 3 ounces of salt plus use 1/2 cure. What are your thoughts or am I just getting old lol😂. Appreciate any advice. Thanks
Thank you for this informative demonstration and explanation. I was curious why the salt percentage for salamis and dry-cured meats is so much higher, typically 2.5 - 3.0%, yet they do not taste too salty. What happens to the extra salt during the drying process?
The extra salt stays there and the overall salt concentration goes up. Dry-cured salamis typically contain 4 percent or more of salt and topically start out at 3 percent salt and above for the fresh product.
Great video Eric…I’m at 1.6% …..the funny thing is that I came to the 1.6 percentage with a similar experiment many many years ago….thanks for the post…
Eric, I am 71 and this is the first time that I have seen any one bring this subject up. I was simply going by what the recipe called for but now I will be looking at things differently. I know that sausage and salami are different and can any of this be used when making salami? Great video.
I'm 51. I typically run 1.5% in my sausages, depending on how it's being used and what other spices/ingredients are included. e.g. My Andouille runs at 2%, but its job is to season a pot of gumbo, not really for fresh eating, so the smoke and salt add to the flavor of the stew/gumbo.
67 here, you are 100% right, I have less tolerance to salt as years gone /go by, 25 TO Daughter thinks Im too sensitive! One question though is there a minimum % for cold smoked and or cured sausage? I have a recipe from Marianski's book for cold smoked Polish and one is 3% another is 2.5%.
Excellent demonstration of salted sausage by percentages, but my question is on salt substitutes. Many of us are salt sanative, salt causes medical issues from blood pressure to swelling and pain that goes with it. Personally, I use a small dash of curing salt, with Himalayan salt, and add No-Salt or Dash to taste, along with many other flavorings as desired. - When I add the salt, it is in the whole condition, refrigerator age it for a number of hours, then wash it and let it soak in cold clear water in the refrigerator for an hour, rinse and grind it cured to the extent low salt below .25% will allow, add flavorings and sometimes smoke them for a short period just to add that level of flavor and cure as well, cook or cool and prepare for freezer,, whatever that batch plan is, some are aged at this stage, etc. - Is there any data on protein conversion with salt substitutes or is it simply flavor?
Thank you for your video! I have a request, can you make pate, liver sausage or rilette with 100% liver that can last a long time? I like to implement more liver in my diet for the nutrients but it doesn't last for me to eat a bit every day. So I'm looking for a recepie that can last a month or so
I go towards 1.8 to 2 %, (yep, this will be a bit on the salty side for some). I am 56. I slightly adjust the amount of salt used based on the type of sausage I'm making, spices used, type of meats used, and most importantly how much I plan to dry-up the specific sausage/pepperetts during smoking /cooking.
In my late 50's have been using 1.75% in all sausage 2.5% in bacon that i double smoke and hang to dry 2% for bacon that gets smoked and sliced and vacumm packed and frozen or kept in the fridge. 3% salt when making ham, been using these ratios since i was taught to make sausage by me dad
Interesting observation on age and salt. I looked at my favorite Italian sausage recipe and it contains 1.2% salt, adjusted for my tastes. I'm mid-sixties.
Question: Do you calculate the salt and spice percentages prior to adding water or after? Seems like adding water afterwards would dilute the percentage. Thanks for putting this together.
I always liked 1.8 ish% for a cased sausage. I recently did 2.2% for a breakfast patty sausage to combat the fat, crust, and seasoning. I like it sitting there, it's good for a sandwich or gravy. I definitely won't get lost. 38
Eric couldn’t agree more, the older I get the less salt I can tolerate. I am 58 years old and I use to put in 1.8% salt ,,now I am down to 1.2to 1.5 percent .Hope this helps. PS. I still use the recommended amounts for dry cured sausage.
Im a 2% guy, typically I'll round down if using curing salt and go 1.6% if adding cheese or bacon. I've definitely got a higher salt tolerance than some (age 32). Funny enough during the Super Bowl I fed 4-5 people aging from 24-36 a 2% sausage and asked them if it was too salty, they all said "its perfect but don't add any more"
@Chuds BBQ you were my inspiration for getting into making sausage and bacon. For sausage I tend to do around 1.5% salt and for bacon I tend to do around 2% salt.
So if you're adding curing salt, maybe 1.5% salt and 0.25% cure #1?
I agree with chud, I also use 2% as my base , if it’s a large format cotto I’ll go up to 2.2% to hold up to a hardy sandwich. great video eric!
@@benpierce2202 you nailed it!
good morning chuds , hw are you man ? i like you man , i think me too , no it depends on the salt itself anyway
65 years old. I'm a 1.5% guy. Been making sausage for 6 years. Used commercial mixes at first. Most are way too salty. Been making my own mixes for over 5 years. Love your knowledge and your show. Great video.
Well, as a rookie sausage maker, I just made my first sausage that was of my own recipe a few days ago. My wife is very sensitive to anything with heat, to include black pepper. She also really likes chicken so I decided to challenge myself and make her an 80% chicken sausage (60 white, 20 dark with skin, 20 fatty pork). I went with a roasted garlic, green onion, rosemary spice profile and (wait for it) 2.5% salt. On the test patty my first thought was it was too salty. She said don't change a thing. After the links were made and they sat overnight we both loved it just like it was. I'm 57 and she's 60 😁 I could definitely see hovering closer to 2% with other flavor profiles though and I still have LOTS of practice/experimentation ahead.
Loving your channel!
Welp I'm sold. I did 2% for the longest time but the fact 1.5 did good protein extraction and I often add extra seasoning and flavorings to try 1.5% next. Awesome video. Thank you
I found your channel from @ChudsBbq; the two of you have been a wealth of knowledge. I have been making breakfast sausage for a long time. Thanks to your two channels I have made my first batch of linked pork sausage for the Super Bowl. They were a hit; I am looking forward to learning and making more in the future. Thank you for all the information.
I like these sausage break downs. I hope you do more videos like with other very important ingredients that goes in to the sausage.
Well done. 1.3-1.5%, but I only make breakfast sausage and freeze it, no curing salts. Smaller fat cap, more salt. I am 64. Thank you. God Bless and stay safe
I'm a 2% guy, and I'm 43. My wife (same age) and kids all love that level too. We tend to eat more Paleo/Keto/low carb, and salt is needed to be increased on these diets, so out tastes for salt are typically a little higher than our friends or parents (say for salting steaks, etc), but even our friends and parents love our sausage at those levels.
very informative, started out using commercial pre-mixes but find them too salty, so I make my own, some of your recipes are brilliant. about 1.5% toal salt for me. 66 years young.
Great video. I am amateur saussage maker for 10 years. I am 54. I prefer 2% with 10% water added. Again great channel and informative video
I am 43 and I use 1.47% in fresh sausage....this video was informative...I would love this breakdown with cured cacciatore sausage....I have been making cured sausage for many year with Italian relatives and I am just about sick of hearing all the different way to measure salt. The best measurement I got was for every bread size pile of meat ....you should one handful of salt (Zio Philipo's hand). Thanks dad now its all clear.
Funny never thought in percentages. The formula we use for dried sausages we use 1lb salt and 4.3 oz pink cure for 80lbs of meat amazing comes out to 1.5% 20.3 ounces divided by 1,280 (80x16). I use the same formula for fresh Italian but omit the cure so 1 lb salt divided by 80 is 1.25%. The cured and fresh doesn’t taste salty to me and I’m 73 but been using this formula since I was 60 or a little younger. I should also say I add pepper sauce to my sausage both cured and fresh. Hot pepper sauce for hot and sweet pepper sauce for plain sausages.
Great show keep it up
I am following your recipes exactly and always comes out very good thanks
Per your request: I'm 70 years old and limit my fresh sausage making to only a handful of types i.e. Italian (I use salt, parsley, red pepper flakes, grated parmesan cheese and sometimes fennel seeds), keilbasa (only salt pepper and garlic) and jalapeno-cheddar links. My personal taste runs to 2.25% for all of these sausages...I like fresh sausage on the salty side. Anything fermented is always calculated at 3%. I also feel that a binder i.e. potato starch, powdered milk, carrot binder etc, lends to the texture and juiciness of any given recipe! Hope this helps with your research! As always, great video!
Great video Eric. I'm 75 and I knew at the start of your video I would be in the 1.5 to 1.8 % camp. Of course, if using cure adjusting for that. Thank you for your channel.
First batch of sausages, age 75 years nearly. 1.5% salt and felt it was at the very maximum. May use slightly less next time. Love the quality and clarity of the information. Thank you.
Wow. I just received answers if been asking for years. I appreciate you so much
52 yo, I’m a 1.5%-er, and always thought that a titch salty. But today I learned I need to count the curing salt as part of that! Duh. Thanks! Love your recipes but this was a top 3 vid of yours for me, awesome job.
Great video Eric. I'm 63 and I usually start my new recipes at 1.8% salt and I adjust that if using curing salt.
1.7% at age 58.
You are the first one to say that you need to add the salt and curing salt to keep it in the right percentage. All other sausage book recipes, and online omit that part. Great work Eric!
So adding other spices often masks saltiness in my view, particularly if you go hotter, e.g. black pepper, white pepper, chilli. I was surprised that the no salt one cooked without actually falling apart completely. Thus a low salt/sodium sausage seems quite plausible if you are not fussed about the texture.
I love that you guys asked for input before making this video! That said, I'm sticking with my 1.75%. :)
I stick to a total salt content of 1.7%. The basic salt input is 1.5% and I make my seasonings with that additional 0.2%.
Excellent video as always!
Hi Eric
I’m 55 years old and 1.7 % is right on for me. However, my wife is 50 years old and if it’s above 1.5%, it’s to salty!
I’m going to try the crispy chili sausage from season 5 next week. As I live in Japan, it’s easy to get my hands on some pretty interesting ingredients
Cheers mate
I am 68 yrs old. 1.5% seems the sweet spot for me. Thanks for the video, very informative.
I love the experiment. I make sausage for a bbq company and I have to follow their ratios. They do it around 1.7 and 1.9 depending on the other seasonings and meat type ratios. I’m 61 and I like my sausage 1.7 tops. With garnish, I think the salt content (after texture) is negotiable.
My sweet spot is about 1.5%. I'm just about 60 now and have been making sausage for about 15 years. I haven't noticed any change in my palate relative to getting older (though other factors do sometimes factor in). I've grown accustomed to my recipes, which may explain the lack of change. Another great video, btw. Thanks!
All this time I was under the impression that sensitivity to salt got Weaker as you got older; this now makes more sense. Most commercial bacons are too salty for me; I settled on Oscar Meyer but soon that was too salty, now I buy their "Lower Sodium" stuff. All the recipes in Ruhlman's "Charcuterie" book were too salty for me, he must've been a youngster when he wrote it!
I'd say 1.5-2. To be honest, it's what the recipe calls for and adjusted as
necessary for taste.
Curious though, what your thoughts are when a recipe calls for brown
sugar. As the sugar has a tendency to mask the salt.
Also we've noticed a difference in taste when using kosher salt compared
to table salt.
TYFS, another great demonstration.
Very informative. Thank you for doing this. I'm about a 1.8% salt. 67 years young.
Thanks for doing all the grunt work on this. Very informative
I’m 35. I started at 1.5% but have gradually increased as I’ve gotten older. I’m at 1.7-2% depending on the kind of meat and whether there are any other “salty” components in my sausage. Keep up the great work Eric!
Once agen excellent focused information that helps me understand were I'm going wrong or Wright,not a lot of flakey bs that terns me off,your really one of the best channels I watch,keep up the good work,thanks!
Great video ~ ver informative.
I'm personally a 2% guy, because I find once you add other seasonings then smoke it, and even more so if you add sausage to a sandwich you need the extra salt for the meat to stand out.
i recently did 2% and thought it was too salty when i made my trst patty but after stuffing and drying the casings overnight i cooked a link and it was perfect.
Hi Eric. Another stellar video! My wife and I started making our own Italian sausage several years ago. Pork, salt and black pepper. We find 1.8% to be the perfect amount for us. I’m 65 and my bride is 61.
i was a butcher for 3 years when i left the school, we used a sausage mix one for beef the other for pork, both mixes had salt and pepper and other spices, a 20lb sausage batch had 8 ounces of the sausage mix whether it was for beef or Pork link sausage and i live in Scotland
This is an awesome video. Great visual and explanation to help the sausage makers out there understand.
Well done Eric!
Much appreciated!
You both great guys. I learnt a lot from you two.
Thank you! Eric has a great channel I learn from as well.
Killer video! this has become a game changer for me and my sausage-making! I'm at 1.5% Kosher salt and .25% MSG. I'm 57
Excellent video, thanks for putting it together. I'm 64 and I use 1.75% total salt.
Outstanding teaching moment, as always, Eric! Since I am in the "must-have" curing salt camp, I'm thinking: Start with required grams of Pink Salt for meat weight, and then add Diamond Crystal Kosher salt until 1.5-6% is reached.
Any salt to weight works. I use Canning salt for its fineness. Also started adding the salt (and powdered spices) to the water before introducing it to the forcemeat. Depending on what's going in I'll give it a whiz in a blender.
I’m 70 and fairly new to sausage making and started out at 1.7 and that was too salty and now have tapered down to 1.2.
Mixing by hand for now and that can be quite a workout (and freezing on the hands) to get to good extraction, so looking to get a stand mixer to make that more enjoyable
You KNOW I love experiments and you have completely absorbed my attention! Absolutely love this video! I never thought about age dictating the desire for salt!!!! I’m 45 and love 1.5 tsp per pound!
Thanks Micah!!
Love your channel - great information as always. My wife and I are in the 60 - 70 year old range and we prefer about 1.7%
I'm 69 years and prefer a 1% total salts flavor. I'll extend the mix time a bit to get more protein extraction but find doing so can break down cheese or vegetable additions, which is a bummer.
You timing with this post is perfect Eric, as I'm doing another batch today! I'll try a 1.25% and 1.5% (shorter mix) and see how it goes! Thanks!!
Would you be able to mix your sausage to get the extraction you need and then add the vegetables with a short mix time so they don't crumble?
This is great information, but I want to add that once you find your preferred salt %, that it will work on that item, but may not work on another, such as dried sausages, salami, pepperoni and cured meats due to the loss of moisture. At that, the other consideration would be at what level of drying do you take your product to. For example, I take pitina to 35 wl, salami to 38 wl and bresaola to 40. Thanks for all your info! I watch ALL your videos!
Hello, great video, I like the experiment. I'm 53 and tend to lean toward 2% salt but not over, only because I prefer a good texture. I've done 2.5% salt a few times, it's not terrible you can it eat it of course, but instead of enhancing the flavor it was just too noticeable on most bites. I've dialed it back to get a better taste of the other seasonings. 2% max for good texture but that's just me.
Great video. I am on sodium restrictions and started making my own sausage recently. I currently don't add any salt but I may start adding a bit to help with flavor and texture.
Look into binders such as potato starch or powdered milk....use at 4%...
Hi friend,if you are in a sodium restriction for hypertension,Iwas too,but I add more green salad and/or suplement with citrate of magnesium and potassium and adress the retaining water that cause too much sodium vs lack of potassium and magnesium,that water in blod is whah causes the high blood pressure,so it need to be removed,thats why they give you diuretics,but can be solved with nature aproach 😉
If my Math is correct at the lowest 1.25% salt that equates to 500mg of sodium/100gm of sausage. Thats a big sausage. Normally they are between 75-85gm if you buy at the shops and this varies by country but commercially usually in excess of 680mg of sodium per sausage. So two sausages often exceeds your ideal total sodium intake for a day.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I like 1.75 and adjust when I use curing salt, I use this for both sausage and bacon.
I'm 70 and must be a saltaholic. I tend to use a little more salt than recipes call for in any meat product I am making. I don't mess with the amount of curing salt in the jerkys but kosher salt is usually slightly over.
When i caught the 'cough cough' it left me with an inability to taste salt for nearly two years. You could have put 7.5% and i couldn't taste it, i could taste foods and flavors just not the salt. It was a strange time in many ways and i dont miss it. Imagine dumping copious amounts of salt on eggs and no effect, i put the salt shaker away because i knew my blood pressure would have been in the 200/160 range if i went by my tastebuds. i was gifted my salt shaker back around christmas time and it started a yearly joke of gifting me a salt and pepper set for christmas... So it started a family tradition i think. 40 years old going on 85
The "cough cough" 😂, glad you're okay mate
I’m a trained cook but l’ve never made sausages; can I make your recipes without a kitchen aid mixer ? Many thanks for sharing your knowledge on salting and sausage making, very helpful 🙏😎.
of course.
Check out Chuds bbq, he often mixes by hand
What a great video! Appreciate the clarity and work you put into this.
Wow! I have learned so much from your videos. I can’t thank you enough! My sausage has improved greatly!
I am 50 and I use 1.5% to 1.8% salt pretty much all the time for both fresh and smoked.
I just made a nice beef & potato sausage that I am eating right now. Actually I am eating a few breakfast patties from the left over meat mixture my stuffer traps. This one is going to be stellar, too bad I only made 5lbs.
I have been making sausage for about 30 years, really well for about the last 15.
I sent you a brat recipe that many people say is beyond stellar. I don't know if you ever try the things people send.
I'm look fword to learning what the salt range is for other meats, the full spectrum of Beef - Elk, Salmon - Trout - Aropima, Chicken- turkey and all other farm raisable meat birds.
Note to self I need to re watch the vid where you turned eather biltong or bresaola I think, into pemikin and see how much salt if any you seasoned the Salumi with before drying it and making it into meat powder lol thank you again for another wonderful video as a learning g resource Sir ;~) blessings be for you your family and all of my classmates. Thank you GOD for this amazing community of people to learn from 😊
62 and have been making sausage for 20 years.
I went to unsalted butter in my fridge 5 years ago.
I also do 15lbs of cured pork belly to bacon every month.
1.5 % for fresh sausage
2.5 % for bacon or aged sausage.
Very nice content!!!!! I use 1,25% salt on hamburguer, and 1.75% on saussages..... Your experiment shows me I was right on my experiments.
43, and have been making sausage since age 22. 1.65% has always been right for me. I can make saltier sausage palatable, but that necessitates changing spice quantities, using sugar, and potentially adding starches. Keeping the salt at 1.65% means I can lean on experience to know how much of a given spice will affect the flavor.
I think your right on point! 50 years old, 1.5% is the sweet spot for me.
I use 5% salt. _I can't understand why my blood pressure is always so high._ 🤣
Thanks for another great video Eric! 1.3% it is! (I'm an old guy)
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I made a 2% and the family felt it was a bit too salty (my wife and I are 48, son is 18) - Ive settled into 1.5%, but I’ll often add cheese, or bacon, or curing salts, so I prob end up around 1.7%
Super valuable information and lesson. Greatly appreciated to visually see it.
The few recipes I've made out of Ruhlman's "Charcuterie" (been a few years, I'm 64) were all too salty for me, and the only commercial bacon I can eat anymore is Oscar Meyer's "Low Sodium"; I can't eat Fritos or Doritos anymore, used to be my favorite snax. I had read years ago that older folks needed MORE salt, and my Dad certainly seemed that way, but I think it was because of his smoking (tobacco, not pork!) Glad to learn it's the opposite, and I've already made adjustments (so many ewetubers add salt AND soy sauce to their stir fries, I'm fine with just a bit of soy. )
Wow Eric, what an amazing video. I love these type of videos to where you can actually visualize what the differences are. One other question for you, Eric do you have a fat to meat ratio calculator that’s good.
My sweet spot is 1.3% for pork, seafood, and Chicken (white meats), 1.5% for beef and lamb(red meats). I find most sausage at BBQ joints is too salty around 2.0%. 48. My entire family, kids and adults, prefer 1.3%. Anything over 1.5 and the too salty complaints roll in. Must be genetic.
Hi Eric . i must of seen all most all your sausage/salami videos now. thought i would say hi and thank you, and give you a giggle so got all my stuff for my red wine chrizzo yummy first dry cure sausage all in fridge mixed ready waiting. cases on side soaking in a little salt and water go to work. come back dog ate my cases found your channel watched pitina they smell lovely in my fridge thank you
You have an incredible channel to take a good to decent sausage to great.
I’m 26 years old and I tend to use 2%! I like the saltiness, but sometimes I find that 2% can be a at the maximum of what I want. I’m making a batch of medisterpølse this week and I’m thinking of going to 1.8% to see if that helps me maintain some of the delicate balance that I love in medister.
A cool video idea that I’d love to see is the percentage of liquid used in sausage. I noticed that in a lot of medisterpølse recipes there’s roughly 30% water by weight of the meat, but other people in general sausage making tend to stick to 10% or in this video 5%. Medister tends to use some kind of starch and egg as a binder, but I wonder if all sausages could use more liquid or if it interferes with the binding of the proteins. Another thing I’d like to see is this experiment but with gelatine powder mixed into the farce to see how gelatine works in a sausage, and if that enhances the experience or diminishes it.
I have been shooting for 1.5%-2% on mine. I have made 5 batches so far and that seems to be the sweet spot for me.
Fantastic video and great information. I'll have to go check my family's Italian sausage recipe...I'm curious. Thanks for the info.
I'm 45, and most of my recipes use 1.35%, but I have a couple at 1.5%.
I flipped through a couple of Marianski's books to see if the older shelf stable recipes used heavy salt. I thought they would, but not really. Most his recipes were in the range of 1.8-2%, but most were at 1.8%, even for shelf stable sausages. I then thought, what the heck, what do my own old family and neighbors' recipes have (all from 19th century Luxembourg immigrants to the US). The salt measurements are a bit of a guess as they are given in tea cups per 45 or 50lb. I did the math though, and here is what I think it comes to for three farmer sausage recipes: 1.8%, 1.8%, 1.5%, but who knows the exact size of the tea cups. The old timers knew how to make sausage though. The only sketchy bit is the cure. None of the recipes have a qty, they just list "salt petre". I switched my recipes over to cure #1, but many of the old farmers in my area still use salt petre. From my observations, their sausage has a less pronounced cure, basically little to no pink at all when cooked. Not sure if that is due to the quantity or the type of cure, or maybe based on their cure time. No idea how they decided how much salt petre to add, but I do know that they all always did a test cook of a patty before stuffing, then they would all have a bite and argue about it it needed more of. They cold smoked at night starting in about late October with pretty typical cold smoke temps, probably 30-55F.
I see southerners go with hot smoke and finish cooking their sausage right in the smoker. I don't actually own a vertical smoker that can heat up. None of the old timers up north did really. They all would boil or pan fry their sausage after cold smoking in a fairly well ventilated wooden smoke house (big enough to handle a few butchered hogs at once). I might try a hot smoke and then bake sometime like the southerners do just to see how my sausage turns out when done that way. That might let me make sausage in the summer. Still though, my meat room relies on cold outside air. I have a small ventilation fan that pulls the room temp down to about 50F, and a wooden cold box cooled by the same fan that will stay below 40F when I using the cold room to make sausage. The cold room was a game changer for my sausage making. I wouldn't want to give that up for summer processing.
I’m firmly in the 1.8 camp at 54years that only for fresh sausage, though. Smoked sausages run up to about 2%.
I do something different when making sausage though. We separate the lean from the fatty and add 4.5% salt to the lean then when we mix i the fat and fatty meat, we add just enough salt to get back to that 1.8%. I think that makes for maximal protein over all. Not all my team agrees with me on that. We also keep the lean salted for a minimum of 24hrs prior to grinding. What are your thoughts.
Thanks for that best sausage channel on the internet.
Eric, I usually use your recipe calculator and am pleased with the texture and salt content of the sausages I make so I am guessing that’s set at 1.5%. I am 71 years old
As with everything, i think it depends... on the meat and binder. In general in pork sausage i like 1.1 typically to nearest 5 grames, so 1.1-1.3 is golden. I use non fat dry milk which really seems to hide the salt.
For beef i usually go 1.3, but sometimes even 1.5 if it's a fattier sausage.
Eric, I'm 60 and have been using 1.5%. there is a bit of saltiness in my Italian style sausage, but my breakfast sausage tastes fine at that amount. I'm going to try 1.25% for my next batch of Italian or German bratworst.
Learning a lot from you! Thanks for helping use!
Ok, I'll play. 65 year old male making sausage since 1982, some 40 years. Fresh sausage works well for me at 1.8%, while cured runs 1.8% to 2.0%.
I really enjoy all your videos. Thank you very much, i learn a lot they are a perfect guide
I'm curious as to how smoking the sausage changes the perceived salt content. I ask because I use a dry rub for chicken that has a number of ingredients that use x-spice salt for the large majority of the ingredients. For example, it uses onion salt, garlic salt etc. If we cook the chicken in the smoker, it's great. If we cook the chicken in a conventional oven, it's damn near inedible. Sugar also seems to have a masking effect as mentioned by another poster below.
Enjoying your videos. Been making sausage for several years and looking to kick my game up. Possibly a food truck in the future. Salt has always been an issue for me. I am 45 and recently have been very sensitive to salt content. My sausages tend to be a little heavy with salt but nobody is complaining except me. For 12lbs I put 3 ounces of salt plus use 1/2 cure. What are your thoughts or am I just getting old lol😂. Appreciate any advice. Thanks
Can you all please do a video on making Salt Pork? I love the flavor salt pork does to beans and greens.
Great video. I had no idea salt affected the texture. I use 1.75% and I am 51. I use mortons kosher salt
Great video I've been using batch packs from spice makers but I want to make my own
62 years old and 1.75 % salt is my go to
Thank you for this informative demonstration and explanation. I was curious why the salt percentage for salamis and dry-cured meats is so much higher, typically 2.5 - 3.0%, yet they do not taste too salty. What happens to the extra salt during the drying process?
The extra salt stays there and the overall salt concentration goes up. Dry-cured salamis typically contain 4 percent or more of salt and topically start out at 3 percent salt and above for the fresh product.
Great video Eric…I’m at 1.6% …..the funny thing is that I came to the 1.6 percentage with a similar experiment many many years ago….thanks for the post…
By the way I’m 61…
Eric, I am 71 and this is the first time that I have seen any one bring this subject up. I was simply going by what the recipe called for but now I will be looking at things differently. I know that sausage and salami are different and can any of this be used when making salami? Great video.
I learned a new trick today. Thank you.
I'm 51. I typically run 1.5% in my sausages, depending on how it's being used and what other spices/ingredients are included. e.g. My Andouille runs at 2%, but its job is to season a pot of gumbo, not really for fresh eating, so the smoke and salt add to the flavor of the stew/gumbo.
67 here, you are 100% right, I have less tolerance to salt as years gone /go by, 25 TO Daughter thinks Im too sensitive!
One question though is there a minimum % for cold smoked and or cured sausage?
I have a recipe from Marianski's book for cold smoked Polish and one is 3% another is 2.5%.
im 51 and use 1.5% plus curing salt and that makes it perfect for me. hope this helps
Excellent demonstration of salted sausage by percentages, but my question is on salt substitutes. Many of us are salt sanative, salt causes medical issues from blood pressure to swelling and pain that goes with it. Personally, I use a small dash of curing salt, with Himalayan salt, and add No-Salt or Dash to taste, along with many other flavorings as desired. - When I add the salt, it is in the whole condition, refrigerator age it for a number of hours, then wash it and let it soak in cold clear water in the refrigerator for an hour, rinse and grind it cured to the extent low salt below .25% will allow, add flavorings and sometimes smoke them for a short period just to add that level of flavor and cure as well, cook or cool and prepare for freezer,, whatever that batch plan is, some are aged at this stage, etc. - Is there any data on protein conversion with salt substitutes or is it simply flavor?
Thank you for your video! I have a request, can you make pate, liver sausage or rilette with 100% liver that can last a long time? I like to implement more liver in my diet for the nutrients but it doesn't last for me to eat a bit every day. So I'm looking for a recepie that can last a month or so
I go towards 1.8 to 2 %, (yep, this will be a bit on the salty side for some). I am 56.
I slightly adjust the amount of salt used based on the type of sausage I'm making, spices used, type of meats used, and most importantly how much I plan to dry-up the specific sausage/pepperetts during smoking /cooking.
In my late 50's have been using 1.75% in all sausage 2.5% in bacon that i double smoke and hang to dry 2% for bacon that gets smoked and sliced and vacumm packed and frozen or kept in the fridge.
3% salt when making ham, been using these ratios since i was taught to make sausage by me dad
Interesting observation on age and salt. I looked at my favorite Italian sausage recipe and it contains 1.2% salt, adjusted for my tastes. I'm mid-sixties.
Question: Do you calculate the salt and spice percentages prior to adding water or after? Seems like adding water afterwards would dilute the percentage. Thanks for putting this together.
I always liked 1.8 ish% for a cased sausage. I recently did 2.2% for a breakfast patty sausage to combat the fat, crust, and seasoning. I like it sitting there, it's good for a sandwich or gravy. I definitely won't get lost. 38
Eric couldn’t agree more, the older I get the less salt I can tolerate. I am 58 years old and I use to put in 1.8% salt ,,now I am down to 1.2to 1.5 percent .Hope this helps.
PS. I still use the recommended amounts for dry cured sausage.