China's Great Slowdown

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @jiapusun7718
    @jiapusun7718 Год назад +221

    The young lady said I just want to sell all my properties in hands, one by one. Well, what a poor lady. 😂

    • @yihongchen-e3p
      @yihongchen-e3p Год назад +42

      This lady is Richer than 90% Chinese people. She owns more than one house.

    • @paradisv4651
      @paradisv4651 Год назад +1

      @@yihongchen-e3p Try 99%

    • @jwzjwz2003cn
      @jwzjwz2003cn Год назад +19

      @@yihongchen-e3p If 90% Chinese don't own more than one property, there won't be housing crisis in China now. I would say majority of the Chinese born in 60s and 70s in a city have multiple properties, and now the bubble is about to burst due to a shrinking population, cooled off economy and all the housing inventories.

    • @mariajiao4855
      @mariajiao4855 Год назад

      They just interviewed one idiot, who can't stand for any other citizens.

    • @indiasuperclean6969
      @indiasuperclean6969 Год назад +5

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  • @azmodanpc
    @azmodanpc Год назад +73

    As someone senior in the CCP said: "GDP numbers in China are largely man-made", so why not boast of 10% yearly like they did before? It's not like some independent watcher will ever contradict them.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Do your double entries to verify China trade and gdp. Do you study accountancy?
      Get a brain,will you???

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад +1

      People over hype the "man made" statistics. They definitely inflate their growth numbers, but people negatively exaggerate China's numbers whilst using the fact that the CCP makes up figures as their excuse.

    • @eyaswoo1483
      @eyaswoo1483 Год назад +26

      This "someone" quoted by "someone" and referenced by "someone" in Twitter where "someone" spend more time on it than school.

    • @HenryHoang-x
      @HenryHoang-x Год назад +7

      Because it's dumb? Duh, people would still kind of believe if you nudge the number a little, but when you blatantly double the number, you basically admitted you were lying the whole time, it's not like expert economists don't make predictions based on economic activities.🙄

    • @levelazn
      @levelazn 10 месяцев назад +3

      all you have to do is goto china and you will realize that the GDP number is under estimated

  • @deebil8099
    @deebil8099 Год назад +78

    The 5.5% growth numbers are absurd. If you look at all the major industries in China they are all down 10-20%. China's GDP probably shrunk by 5%.

    • @sonialelii9038
      @sonialelii9038 Год назад

      Can't believe the Chinese Gov't numbers.

    • @WorldIsWierd
      @WorldIsWierd Год назад +8

      5.5 is right when you loan so much. But if you loan someone 100 dollars for that money to just be worth 50 technically you grew but you lost money

    • @youarebeingtrolled6954
      @youarebeingtrolled6954 Год назад +21

      People have been saying this for 30 years. 😂😂

    • @RDW1216
      @RDW1216 Год назад

      @@WorldIsWierd US: "cough*"

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Do you need to question data provided by world Bank?? Do you study double entries to verify China trade and gdp???get a brain, will you?

  • @keyin3132
    @keyin3132 Год назад +218

    5.5% growth is called slowdown, while 1% growth is called recovery.

    • @chidera66
      @chidera66 Год назад +34

      China grew just 3% last year, this year China is likely going to be slower than last year

    • @EdoHP
      @EdoHP Год назад +47

      ​​@@chidera66They grew 3% during their Zero COVID policy.
      Also there is a slowdown in global economy but at least they are not hit by a record high inflation like the u.s or a recession with 2 consecutives negative growth like in EU.

    • @keyin3132
      @keyin3132 Год назад +16

      @@chidera66 slower?you know better than imf and world bank.

    • @Aman-oi3re
      @Aman-oi3re Год назад

      @@keyin3132the IMF and World Bank are western institutions, I would take whatever they say with a grain of salt

    • @gareth4592
      @gareth4592 Год назад +25

      You have to understand that for a Middle Income economy 5% and slowing is disasterous. Chances are its heading for a lost decade and the trend will continue. It will not be a high income economy under this regime.

  • @TheKkpop1
    @TheKkpop1 Год назад +147

    If 5 to 6 % growth is a great slow down in China ,then 1% or negative growth in the west is considered"Great Recession".

    • @oltedders
      @oltedders Год назад

      China is posting fake numbers again. GDP was more likely negative growth. Youth unemployment is actually 46%.

    • @TheCJUN
      @TheCJUN Год назад

      Don't believe the numbers. Look at the proxy data. Hong Kong GDP growth Q2 was negative.

    • @valetudo1569
      @valetudo1569 Год назад +47

      Yeah, your off. All GDP is not created equal... while it's usually a measure of output for most economies, it's an input for China. The government sets targets and then uses debt to spend on as much as it needs to reach that growth target. So it isn't actually growing on it's own, they are forcing the numbers up to an insane degree just to keep things afloat.
      Now, a lot of governments use debt to boost their economy. The problem is with the way China does it - they spend the money on the supply-side, not the demand side.
      To put it simply - much of the growth from that GDP doesn't go to the people. It goes to unproductive assets and oversupply of goods. The people aren't feeling hardly any of that 5-6% you speak of, but it allows people to go on youtube and say "Look! It's growing at 5-6%!"...while much of the country suffers.

    • @raulepure9840
      @raulepure9840 Год назад

      Because there is no real growth, you have decline in foreign investment, real estate, domestic consumption, exports so how is growing??
      Those numbers are for idiots to chew.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +33

      @@valetudo1569
      For the same token, US and EU continue to print money at will to inflate artificial growth at the expense of high inflation.

  • @blackcat.19
    @blackcat.19 Год назад +2

    Yeah. Trust CCP number. They also had 0 deaths due to their virus too.

  • @shellyu1442
    @shellyu1442 Год назад +240

    Maybe its not a bad thing for things to slow down. Human development is relentless. We need some checks and balances

    • @tommyzty1089
      @tommyzty1089 Год назад +43

      Except when the economy slows down people lose their livelihoods, it’s not just numbers and digits you can casually brush off

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 Год назад +13

      Maybe you do. Slow down is something we don't need thanks.

    • @freemanol
      @freemanol Год назад +35

      ​@@Sal3600infinite growth that only makes the rich even richer is pointless. Realise most of us don't benefit from gdp growth

    • @huckleberryfinn6578
      @huckleberryfinn6578 Год назад +18

      @@freemanol Tell that to the Chinese people who got out of property and don't earn 1-3$ per day anymore, like 15-20 years ago. Or to Africans who never got out of poverty.

    • @Claude_van
      @Claude_van Год назад +10

      Says the Marxist.😂

  • @boredname2919
    @boredname2919 Год назад +43

    There is insinuation by some that the GDP is overstated

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Do you study double entries in accounting to verify internal and external data? Get a brain, will you??

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад +3

      Yet that's what the "scientific" and "meritocratic" CPC is fixated on. Not so considerate about what people actually care about.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +3

      @@doujinflip
      Do you need to doubt world bank report?
      How do you " fixated on cpc" in the absence of fact???

    • @kev792
      @kev792 Год назад

      @@TheKkpop1 If im not mistaken, the world bank just goes off of the data that china reports. There's some evidence, although not rock solid, that china's GDP is slightly inflated.

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 Год назад +1

      Yes the internet genius who knows it all

  • @sdngy
    @sdngy Год назад +41

    Does someone still believes in the official economical reports? There are multiple contradictory data points in the economy. From the outerspace lights data, official figures from card and digital transactions that don't match consumer spending, a bubble in real estate where they have built over 600M residences for a 5B people capacity and export are crashing down so does the foreign investments. Many of these things are self inflicted which is sad. As an investor I would be very careful with form of investment in China, since not even bonds would be safe and secure at some point. There are a cultural tradition of data reports "embellishments" in many countries and China isn't spared by it from the local provinces to the top central administration.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +6

      Why don't you believe in US treasury, USD and bonds. It has no correlation with unmanageable US debt.?

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Год назад +5

      Simple - You just need to decouple from China 😆
      Why still wasting you life , since you already knew the risk.

    • @sdngy
      @sdngy Год назад

      @@happymelon7129 where there are risks there are rewards

    • @lorenzo4819
      @lorenzo4819 Год назад +1

      @@TheKkpop1what does the us have to do with it??? We are talking about china, go comment a video about the us economy idiot

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      ​@@happymelon7129it's too easy to Tell us, but it's very difficult to make..... Stup,,,i......

  • @kokovas
    @kokovas Год назад +25

    It's the same in indonesia. Ppl are spending less. Retail hasnt recovered yet. Travel spending increase yes, and that takes away the budget to spend other premium / luxury products

  • @jerryrichardson2799
    @jerryrichardson2799 Год назад +52

    Not a word about production costs going up through the roof.

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 Год назад +3

      Because it isn't. Producer price is low.

    • @buildmotosykletist1987
      @buildmotosykletist1987 Год назад +3

      @@phillip76 :ahh, No.

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 Год назад

      @@buildmotosykletist1987
      Yes, producer price index is falling. Now, you can deny that all you want. Folks like you can 't use brain.

    • @rxq6745
      @rxq6745 Год назад

      @@phillip76 idiot

  • @camelotenglishtuition6394
    @camelotenglishtuition6394 Год назад +33

    Shockingly, poor information. Let's go over some inaccuracies. 1 China isn't growing, it's contracted by almost 6% this year so far. If you want to believe the official numbers then I'm not sure what else to tell you. 2 unemployment between 18 and 45 is at 55%. 3 the housing bubble is at 90 trillion yuan. 4 even civil servants have taken pay cuts, some up to 50%. Lastly, 5 the banking sector is collapsing. Just look at the agricultural banks for example, unable to pay staff, closing branches and they're out of liquid cash. China isn't slowing.. it's collapsing. Edit: let's add the real size of china's gdp is about 8 tn, nowhere near 15tn .. and to all the little pinks / 50 cent army .. keep drinking your gutter oil 🛢 lol

    • @upinsos2025
      @upinsos2025 Год назад +8

      Source India Expert...??? 😋😜😁🤡🤡🤡

    • @camelotenglishtuition6394
      @camelotenglishtuition6394 Год назад

      @@upinsos2025 I'm not Indian

    • @TheBryceWade
      @TheBryceWade Год назад

      ​@@upinsos2025hey look, a 50cent army CCP shill.
      Red Tide is in for a Red Ride off a cliff thanks to your incompetent Communist Clowns.

    • @upinsos2025
      @upinsos2025 Год назад +1

      @@camelotenglishtuition6394 Your Badmouth, your lies, your shameless showing you 100% India origin 😋😜😁

    • @neo12470
      @neo12470 Год назад +6

      Are you joking? 55% means that half of the working-age population is out of work, which country has such a high unemployment rate except those countries that are in turmoil, then why is China not in chaos?
      I am from China and the unemployment rate is much lower than 55%.

  • @davisutton1
    @davisutton1 Год назад +114

    This report is altogether too positive. Bank salaries have been slashed, youth unemployment is officially over 21% and likely considerably higher. This is an underappreciated issue. The well-known Chinese demographic problems ought to imply demand for labor that easily overwhelms supply but this is clearly not the case. So, China has a structural undersupply of labor yet it is unable to employ the labor supply it has. This is extremely problematic. Expect to see the Chinese economy collapse in the near future.

    • @2909dk
      @2909dk Год назад +17

      Absolutly agree, its crazy they skimmed all of those things, truly dissapointing journalism as i could find this out so easily as a guy who find work with machines and not words. Like they gloss over issues with taiwan and chip trade bans, thats a huge factor, its like that dont wanna acknowledge how agressive they are to with military tech theft and projection...

    • @bin.s.s.
      @bin.s.s. Год назад +10

      "In the near future", according to the old norm of the past 3 or 4 decades, means something Not In Your Lifetime. This time is probably no exception, for a 5%+ growth already counts for ~30% GDP growth of the whole world.

    • @davisutton1
      @davisutton1 Год назад +10

      @@2909dk True enough. The true horror unfolding in the Chinese economy is so vast, and covers almost every facet of that economy, so I don't expect a brief news item to cover everything. What I do expect is some caution around official numbers, such as GDP. If the Chinese economy has grown at all in 2023 then it is due to enormous stimulus efforts. Manufacturing is in decline, exports are in decline, the hosuing market is on the brink of collapse.
      Housing is reported as 29% of the economy, manufacturing 28%, consumption 38%. Again, I don't trust these numbers. When I was teaching in China students assured me that housing is part of consumption. This is simply untrue but it explained how they could also claim consumption was 67% of the economy. 67% - 29% = 38%. In simple terms consumption has not changed a s a% of the Chinese economy for the past decade, and how can it? The wealth is dominated by government and the very wealthy. China desperately needs to re-direct wealth from local governments to less well off individuals, businesses and families, yet the CCP is directing banks to support local governments. It's a system in its final years, perhaps months.

    • @bin.s.s.
      @bin.s.s. Год назад +1

      BTW, 20+% youth unemployment (most are STEM graduates in recent years), also suggests that no other country can ever be possible to compete with China in terms of extremely high performance and very low costs labor force, which put another way, is an unfortunate factor for China adversarials.

    • @machinmon.
      @machinmon. Год назад

      China can compensate for all of this... In a year or two they will dominate due to restructured social classes. Germany still can't even get itself together.

  • @LaurensPP
    @LaurensPP Год назад +37

    Not even mentioning all the ghost cities with empty owned properties.

    • @helengyang
      @helengyang Год назад +7

      请说出任意一个鬼城,任意一个,西方的无知令人惊讶😅

    • @levelazn
      @levelazn 10 месяцев назад +2

      those ghost cities are old stories from the early 2010s, they are all filled up now

    • @oswarz
      @oswarz 9 месяцев назад

      Don't look now....

    • @alex0315
      @alex0315 6 месяцев назад

      Ghost cities ate filled with people now lol. American propaganda!

  • @wasukoysiripong9738
    @wasukoysiripong9738 Год назад +288

    Three locomotives of the Chinese economy are all in trouble.
    1. Consumers: They have spent a lot of their savings during COVID-19, and as jobs are harder to find, they mostly try to save money.
    2. Exports: All the other economies are in trouble, so they import less, so China can export less.
    3. Infrastructures: This locomotive has been used so much to get the economy up and running during COVID-19 and now it is exhausted. Local governments and state-owned enterprises are all very debt-ridden.
    The only way out is to hope that the global economy will recover, but this is hard as long as the Russo-Ukrainian War is still ongoing.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +41

      Yawning!
      Didn't Gordon Chang repeat the same prediction since 30 years ago??

    • @vicentvanmole
      @vicentvanmole Год назад

      China citizens has the highest saving than USA &all EU combine!!

    • @hifivingstarfish6885
      @hifivingstarfish6885 Год назад

      China is in so much trouble, it's just going to lap the US economy many times over in the next 30-50 years. :) Listening to US experts is like listening to apes who think they can speak a language. They're morons talking in a closet without the faintest idea of what's happening outside. :)

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 Год назад +13

      1. By measures, Consumers have plenty of savings.
      2. That is true. Cost of living is raising for most of the world.
      3. China can build more infrastructure in third-tier cities

    • @ellllgie
      @ellllgie Год назад +21

      You missed out the point of major powers moving away due to geo political tension

  • @OOKHarry
    @OOKHarry Год назад +34

    US 2008, too much debt crashes the markets and people go bankrupt. Banks got bailed out, bankers pay themselves millions.
    China 2023, the government put restriction on debt and make people pay it back. Bankers all got a pay cut.
    Slow growth, but no crash. I don't see what the problem is.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад +7

      Restrictions and pay cuts aren't enough, they're still far too overleveraged.

    • @thinkpositive3667
      @thinkpositive3667 Год назад

      You're blinded by your cringey nationalism. You obviously don't know anything about finance.
      Do you even know what leverage means?

  • @weighs-n-means
    @weighs-n-means Год назад +44

    Painting a picture that is rosier than reality.

  • @robertbraden4454
    @robertbraden4454 Год назад +52

    "Chinese-US trade .......relationship has been hugely beneficial for both countries". Has it? Most of us in the US would prefer to re-shore supply.

    • @testing6753
      @testing6753 Год назад +14

      Well we did enjoy the low prices 🤣 at the high long term cost...

    • @guff9567
      @guff9567 Год назад +1

      Aye-aye sailor

    • @guff9567
      @guff9567 Год назад

      Ship-to-shore.

    • @acmon8176
      @acmon8176 Год назад

      We all know it ain’t happening. Most CEOs will be thrown out of office the moment the market sees the first financial numbers… and they got families to feed

    • @CarolineKariuki4
      @CarolineKariuki4 Год назад +4

      I think that will never happen due to the fact it's too expensive to produce products in the US compared to China.

  • @scott3462
    @scott3462 Год назад +89

    I am falling on the floor laughing for every time this video uses official statistics without mentioning how creative they can be.

    • @PatrickMcAsey
      @PatrickMcAsey Год назад +2

      It's not really that funny. The statistics do indeed tell quite an alarming story, as far as China is concerned.

    • @wongkoewei9829
      @wongkoewei9829 Год назад +3

      I'm not sure, but most peoples do tend to selectively access the data that fit their preferred narrative. A confirmation bias we called.

    • @aether388
      @aether388 Год назад

      Not to mention how they perpetuated the myth that China raised 100 million+ out of poverty

    • @keanphenglim5179
      @keanphenglim5179 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@wongkoewei9829 People or 'experts' who keep harping on how 'low' / 'slow' is the economic growth of China in recent years are either dumb or deliberately lying (or both).
      The reason is simple - the absolute SIZE of the Chinese economy today is multiple TIMES than it was 10 or 20 years ago.
      Hence, even an 'average' of 5% economic growth today would roughly be the same increase (in dollars amount) of a '10%' in the past.
      Just simple arithmetic.
      In 1984, China grew by 15.2%, and averaged over +10% annually through 2005, so 2023 growth dropping to a mere 5% is a big drop. Thing is, when China grew +15.2% in 1984, their economy was only $260 Billion USD (nominal), so they grew by +$40 Billion. In 2023, China's economy is $18 Trillion USD (nominal), so +5% growth adds +$900 Billion, 22.5 times greater than their 1984 growth and roughly 3.5 times the ENTIRE 1984 Chinese economy.
      In contrast, the USA will be lucky to add +$20 Billion to their economy, and it'll mostly be FIRE (Finance, Insurance & Real Estate) growth, rather than "real" industrial production and trade in goods. The UK is going into recession, Germany is in "technical" recession, and Japan has been ZERO growth for decades. Meanwhile, sanctioned Russia is expected to grow by +3%, faster than the USA.When people like Adrian Zeihan and Gordon Chang keeps being the nvited to talk and explain why the PRC is "collapsing", we, the informed people, can only wet our pants of laughing.

  • @그냥내얘기연필심
    @그냥내얘기연필심 Год назад +4

    Stop expressing inferiority and pay attention, even though the United States is experiencing growth in the single digits and has created a country where people can't even go outside at night, they still haven't come to their senses.

  • @pollutingpenguin2146
    @pollutingpenguin2146 Год назад +14

    It’s not a slowdown - they are coming crashing down, but they have zero reason to report the true dismal numbers to the world. Just like that their population has been shrinking for years, their economy is 50% smaller etc.

    • @DK-ev9dg
      @DK-ev9dg Год назад

      They owe nothing to the world. You are lying about their economy. You are China hater.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Crashing down ? Do you study economic? China grows at 5-6%, it's much better than your country.

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад +6

      Jajajaja 🤣🤣. I have Heard this story more than 30 years ago.....

    • @pollutingpenguin2146
      @pollutingpenguin2146 Год назад +1

      @@MrGatorress look at the f’ing numbers. It’s not rocket science

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад

      Population only started to shrink this year a few month ago. But i guess if i ask you to prove that China's population has been shrinking for few years I'll just get the standard answer.

  • @hotbodtz
    @hotbodtz Год назад +21

    Time to wean off a 40 year addiction.

  • @christianlibertarian5488
    @christianlibertarian5488 Год назад +148

    I think that while everything said in this video is true, it missed the most important underlying dynamic. A lot of China’s growth has been due to foreign direct investment. However, that tap has been shut off due to high interest rates in the West. China’s slowdown in growth tracks the Fed Funds rate very well.

    • @xiangli2452
      @xiangli2452 Год назад +7

      Bet to disagree - it's several things lumped together and the foreign investment sure did not cause the dramatic slowdown. First of all, it did not drop that much and the affected jobs are very limited. Secondly some foreign firms left due to competition, not due to politics. The 2 mentioned (real estate and confidence) are the core but the economic cycle is the third one as new biz are dwindling and internet related companies started laying off. The 4th is of course the slowing down of export.

    • @christianlibertarian5488
      @christianlibertarian5488 Год назад

      I think your points are valid, but I think your point number 4 is including FDI.
      @@xiangli2452

    • @rcbrascan
      @rcbrascan Год назад +6

      China's foreign direct investment reached record levels last year, mainly coming from Europe and Asia and it has no shortage of capital as the excess amount has been diverted to the BRI for the past 10 years. Also, its gigantic foreign exchange reserves is increasingly allocated to gold so China is not worried.

    • @bigmedge
      @bigmedge Год назад +17

      @@rcbrascan those are CCP stats , not reputable source stats . Read any independent business publication & you'll see how FDI into China has been plummeting for awhile

    • @azumishimizu1880
      @azumishimizu1880 Год назад +5

      Sorry to hurt your feelings. But the West has said this time and time again. If China keeps rising, which it does, than dont be hurt or in pain.

  • @Gary-ks2gt
    @Gary-ks2gt Год назад +5

    I heard about that view every single day in last 3 decades...

  • @robertlee8805
    @robertlee8805 Год назад +18

    Heck i havent been buying as much Chinese products or American products made in China. I really need them to lower their prices. Theyve been raising them for awhile. It might be better ti buy American or other Asian countries' products.

    • @AJ-iu6nw
      @AJ-iu6nw Год назад +1

      All Americans dislike Chy-na

    • @oltedders
      @oltedders Год назад +2

      @@AJ-iu6nw
      The world has grown tired of China.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      @@oltedders
      Aren't you jealous of China's success??

  • @almhi3267
    @almhi3267 Год назад +22

    Trust once lost isn't regained so easily.

  • @anypercentdeathless
    @anypercentdeathless Год назад +51

    Who said the economy here was going to “roar back”?
    We in Beijing have seen things get worse and worse long before Covid.

    • @alanssshh
      @alanssshh Год назад +9

      and you saw American economic better and better. right?

    • @ZeVexGaming
      @ZeVexGaming Год назад +21

      @@alanssshh Yes, which is why all my rich Beijing friends are moving to America to start businesses and get passports.

    • @alanssshh
      @alanssshh Год назад +4

      @@ZeVexGaming how a growth rate at 2% is better than 5.5%?

    • @chinesetalks
      @chinesetalks Год назад +22

      ​@@alanssshhBecause that 5.5% includes a lot of debt and fake data and every Chinese knows that.

    • @ZeVexGaming
      @ZeVexGaming Год назад +5

      @@alanssshh Your comparison and fake data are irrelevant anyway because your currency is pegged to the USD🤣.
      Without American tech, investment, and the USD, your economy is worthless and the CNY would float away.
      Walk around Asia and tell me, will a shop owner in Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, etc. accept USD or RMB?

  • @dyrectory_com
    @dyrectory_com Год назад +94

    Look at the world globally... it's not just one country. 🌍🌎🌏💡

    • @TheCullousus
      @TheCullousus Год назад +5

      Yes it's world wide

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Год назад

      ⚠ the USA dependent on CHINA ... CHINA IS THE LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. BTW, USA EXIST ON A PONZI SCAM WITH THE FIAT DOLLAR. CHINA DEBT IS NOWHERE NEAR TEHE USA DEBT. CHINA IS a mature economy, just like the USA....should we expect the USA to have 15% GDP. IN CHINA THE GOVT RULES CORP. IN THE USA....CORP RULES THE GOVT.

    • @knight1506
      @knight1506 Год назад +15

      US is actually doing fine

    • @livingwater888
      @livingwater888 Год назад

      Once BRICS+ added members it will be different

    • @EcoFriendlyGamer
      @EcoFriendlyGamer Год назад +2

      The globe but not one country. That country is doing very far better than any other country right now while having the fastest growth rate.

  • @LagrangePoint901
    @LagrangePoint901 Год назад +18

    The Chinese people are in a downward spiral of less disposable income, high debt obligations, and decreasing job market. So less jobs, lower income, and major home loan debt. On the macro side, the flight of corporations to lower labor cost countries, decreasing interest in new capital investment and overall an oppressive government. Corruption is ingrained into the private and public sectors so much that it saps the energy in the growth process.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +10

      That's the point Gordon Chang and Peter Zeihan predicted since 30 years ago.
      Do you still buy their story???

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад +1

      Their timelines were overly pessimistic but the long-term trend predictions still hold.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Год назад +2

      1990. The Economist. China's economy has come to a
      halt.
      1996. The Economist. China's economy will face a hard
      landing
      1998. The Economist: China's economy entering a
      dangerous period of sluggish growth.
      1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for
      the Chinese economy.
      2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard
      landing risk coffin.
      2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in
      China.
      2002. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks a
      Soft Economic Landing
      2003. KWR International: How to find a soft landing if
      China..
      2004. The Economist: The great fall of China?
      2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in
      China
      2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft
      Landing?
      2007. TIME: Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China
      avoid a hard landing?
      2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China?
      2009. Fortune: China's hard landing. China must find a
      way to recover.
      2010. Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.
      2011. Business Insider: A Chinese
      2012. American Interest: Dismal Economic News from
      China: A Hard Landing
      2013. Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China
      2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China.
      2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You Got Yourself A
      Chinese Hard Landing..
      2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China
      2017. National Interest: Is China's Economy Going To
      Crash?
      2020. Economics Explained: The Scary Solution to the
      Chinese Debt Crisis
      2021. Global Economics: Has China's Downfall Started?
      2022. Cathie Wood: China's COLLAPSE Is FAR Worse
      Than You Think
      2022. Business Basics: China's Economic Crisis, GDP is
      Crashing, Protests Everywhere. China's financial crisis is
      Here.

  • @ScottPerkinsLCMT
    @ScottPerkinsLCMT Год назад +14

    Wow so bloomberg does stories for first graders.....this was worthless

    • @nkristianschmidt
      @nkristianschmidt Год назад +2

      come on, it had Yellen saying : " I think, the Chinese are worried about their economy". That's deep. That's very deep.

    • @Trgn
      @Trgn Год назад

      Traditional professional audiences have been shifted to a larger demographics due the internet. Most media make worthless contents these days, if not downright clickbaity for the mass. It's no better than amateur Tiktok or RUclipsr's video level

  • @narutov4
    @narutov4 Год назад +69

    I wonder if they calculated the citizens strife into their economic growth. Especially with how the government in China was treating its people during COVID lockdowns.

    • @pushslice
      @pushslice Год назад +12

      I don’t know if that is easy to calculate, but yes, it is a real thing . everyone I know/ related to still over there, wishes they could be elsewhere. There is just a frustrated sense of “we’ve been duped”

    • @小熊维尼-t4h
      @小熊维尼-t4h Год назад +7

      @@pushsliceno .we laughed at you USA dead too much people !😂😂😂😂

    • @pushslice
      @pushslice Год назад +8

      @@小熊维尼-t4h
      I am unsure if what you wrote was in English ?
      Some kind of bizarre code ?

    • @小熊维尼-t4h
      @小熊维尼-t4h Год назад +6

      @@pushslice 我们嘲笑你们covid19死的人太多! 我们自豪我们政府的抉择!

    • @gups4963
      @gups4963 Год назад +11

      @@小熊维尼-t4h I don't recall Americans having to line up in front of the funeral home 🤣

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm Год назад +46

    That was an amazing 20+ year growth cycle for China, especially considering they have a planned economy and there was a massive global financial crisis right in the middle of it. Now they have hit the correction and it’s just natural that a giant growth cycle like that will be followed by a similarly outsized correction. That’s not unexpected. The concerns are does the economic downturn morph into a political crisis as well and can they right the ship before the demographic time bomb hits.

    • @wamwan3720
      @wamwan3720 Год назад +1

      20? its 40 now unstoppable

    • @aaga721
      @aaga721 Год назад +2

      political crisis ? no! CCP is so stable.

    • @wenliu9571
      @wenliu9571 Год назад +1

      If the planned economy can make all people afford to buy food and have the ability to pay for tickets to travel, that's fine. The horror is that people don't have the option of sleeping on the street.

    • @RuslanMusin99
      @RuslanMusin99 Год назад

      ​@user-dd2bl8rx4bнет. Экономике нужны молодые рабочие.
      Грузчики, водители, строители. В 50 лет ты не можешь так работать как в 25 лет.
      Уже через 20 лет будут очень сильные проблемы у китая.
      История знает что происходит в китае в плохие времена. Гражданская война с пятью сторонами

    • @rdfmayGodFF
      @rdfmayGodFF Год назад

      就算第三次世界大战,中国也不会爆发政治危机,你太低估了中国共产党统治的稳定性,而且你也不了解中国几千年传承的政治体系

  • @AmukelaniHNkuna
    @AmukelaniHNkuna Год назад +68

    China has picked all the low hanging fruits of its economic growth, unfortunately it is increasingly becoming clear that it lacks the know-how of picking the growth that would come from specialized manufacturing life aerospace, pharmaceuticals, and high-end microprocessors...

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад +11

      It doesn't necessarily need to master all high tech industries. In terms of semiconductors, China can continue dominating the legacy chips which are used in everyday life, but having an economic growth model which is unsustainable is the real issue.

    • @AmukelaniHNkuna
      @AmukelaniHNkuna Год назад +16

      @@J_X999 Except China wants to be a rich country, not a middle income country, and for that to be realized they need to master the cutting edge of technology.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +4

      Pls check out China tops the world in patent rights nowadays.

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад +17

      @@TheKkpop1 Whenever China is the top at something, "it doesn't matter"

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +4

      @@J_X999
      Another copium mentality?
      Cheers sour grapes!!!

  • @robertwang7825
    @robertwang7825 Год назад +91

    The tech crackdown also triggered the rich moving O/S and $ in the trillions going with them. There is also a tax crackdown of high net worth individuals which added complexity to the problem. And rumors of a property tax which most think is inevitable due the local govt finances , which dampen the property mkt even further.

    • @ssuwandi3240
      @ssuwandi3240 Год назад

      Which countries that have lowered property taxes post Covid? Please humor me. Not sure why that moves were seen as a big surprise.. The night Biden was crowned on National TV, I realized the first step this old crooks would do.

    • @rolfw2336
      @rolfw2336 Год назад +3

      It seems the tech crackdown had a strong effect on sentiment.. unfortunately this will be hard to undo.

    • @robertwang7825
      @robertwang7825 Год назад

      @@rolfw2336 Well all the tech companies lost US1T in value , then they fired a few million workers., then cancelled hundreds of projects - ofc it hurts sentiment overall.

    • @tunahxushi4669
      @tunahxushi4669 Год назад +1

      "dampen the property market" ha ha ha... How about crater and soon be subjected to a $10 trillion++ wipeout... That's not billion that's trillion... All those homes that were purchased will never be lived in?... they will just be pulled down.

    • @indiasuperclean6969
      @indiasuperclean6969 Год назад +2

      SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER NUMBER ONE🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳

  • @squiggy18
    @squiggy18 Год назад +23

    If I saw my nest egg drop in value month by month, I will also stop spending and start saving more.

  • @kamwaichan8048
    @kamwaichan8048 9 месяцев назад +1

    The US and the Western nations are predicting China economy growth is slowing down but they also forgetting that their own economy are slowing down too. Especially the US debt ceiling are increasing, it's adding $1 trillion every 100 days and this are even more scary 😢😢😢😢

  • @johndinsdale1707
    @johndinsdale1707 Год назад +16

    I think is a 'copium' explanation of the prodigious failing of the Chinese model. As China turns inwards it has very few middle income consumers to fall back on. Shanghai has flushed out its foreigners and looks like a ghost town and business relationship have wither on the vine over the last 3 years?

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +1

      FDI inflows to China continues to grow. Aren't you jealous?

    • @ylstorage7085
      @ylstorage7085 Год назад +1

      ChatGPT trained on 1923 data would come up with better senseless words stringed together. Also, don't wish too hard, they do have a fallback: militarization.

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад +1

      It doesn't have "very few". In fact, it has a lot. But just being middle class doesn't mean you actually spend that money.

    • @cloudwithwind574
      @cloudwithwind574 Год назад

      Nonsense, the traffic in Shanghai is very high, and your keyboard should be able to search

  • @edmondlai8299
    @edmondlai8299 Год назад +2

    Foreign capital is leaving China.

  • @DK-ev9dg
    @DK-ev9dg Год назад +4

    In north people are not even taking holidays. Things are so expensive. Most people are depressed the way things are going on in canada

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 Год назад +8

    😆All western media happily report China export decrease cause by U$A UK EU falling into technical recession.

  • @turningpointaustralia9531
    @turningpointaustralia9531 Год назад +34

    In some cases China labor market became more expensive than some Australian cities

    • @Retaferyr
      @Retaferyr Год назад +2

      Before I left China in 2015, I sold mid you high end US furniture fabric to them for their domestic market, it was cheaper to produce in many US cities/industries. The reason it wasn't in the US was due to factory infrastructure. The US used more high tech methods to lower labor cost below China, but it would cost billions to move back to the US.

  • @128himanshu
    @128himanshu Год назад +20

    China, US and Europe slowdown could erase $50 Trillion Debt Bubble in the world and can cause big depression than that of 1930s. There will lot of capital trimming, trade trimming and recognition of unrealized losses sitting in most of the banks across the globe. VC will take a hit. Salries and Pensions would decrease by 50% and global growth will come to a standstill in the world.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Big Depression is coming.

    • @NewmaticKe
      @NewmaticKe Год назад

      How does a debt bubble get erased

    • @MrMaverickanand
      @MrMaverickanand Год назад +1

      ​@@NewmaticKeUsually by recognizing and absorbing the losses. The question of who absorbs the losses is a political one with far reaching consequences

    • @dianefleming9765
      @dianefleming9765 Год назад

      Have a nice day 😊

  • @ramonching7772
    @ramonching7772 Год назад +2

    The rest of the world slowed. While China is still growing albeit at a lower pace. So there is nothing wrong with China. It is the world that is tapped out.

  • @bin.s.s.
    @bin.s.s. Год назад +11

    What a "Great Slowdown" with a 5% growth, and a 0.0% inflation.

    • @dennisestradda9746
      @dennisestradda9746 Год назад +3

      Hi deflation

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад

      5% if you believe their targets...and creatively accounted achievements. Even that is a painful slowdown from the expectations and financial plans of the median Chinese resident.

    • @crispy少爷
      @crispy少爷 Год назад

      In the narrative logic of the Chinese government, it is the beginning of Thirty years of deflation and stagnation which happend in Japan.

  • @jimmyz5831
    @jimmyz5831 Год назад +1

    Walmart is 80% china. Amazon is 60% china. Walmart is now the largest online retailer in India. India and China are partners. China's growth is expected to be DOWN to 5%. Hard to count them out.

  • @bhspenceryt
    @bhspenceryt Год назад +9

    Its all about population growth. Its really hard to grow an economy with a shrinking population. Current projections expect China's population to fall from 1.4B to 800M by 2100. Its over.

    • @davidpitchford6510
      @davidpitchford6510 Год назад

      population numbers also faked; probably already less than 1B

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад +1

      Jajajaja 🤣🤣. Many years For you and I will be alife suto.....i.....

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад +2

      It's been "over" for China since the 1970s. But every single time, "it's different, this time it's actually happening"

    • @davidpitchford6510
      @davidpitchford6510 Год назад

      @@J_X999 No; its been over for about a decade or a bit more. Authoritarianism takes a while to destroy a great civilization like Chinas; give it the appropriate destruction time. For example, they have to pay "bots" to make statements like yours.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад

      Definitely feels like it now. The PRC proved to habitually overpromise and underdeliver, and the rest of the world is hungry and willing to take what China once achieved for their own but with much more transparency. There's a reason Beijing started going "wolf warrior", and it's not because of true confidence.

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 Год назад

    Thanks for posting.

  • @littlebitmckee8234
    @littlebitmckee8234 Год назад +34

    Not only are they not spending it, but wages have dropped ( talk to workers in the banking and finance sector) people are losing jobs in the manufacturing and shipping sectors) and young people cannot find jobs and are moving to Africa. They have a huge problem.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +3

      Unlike their grandparents, Western youth are indulging in lgb-t , trans-g, Zombi apocalypse, beers and drugs in the nite clubs, but chicken out to venture into tremendous growth opportunities in Africa.
      This is a huge concern to the young population as far as socially and morally.

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u Год назад +2

      No, u are wrong, wages cannot just be dropped. People are losing jobs everywhere not just china. Condition of every country is almost same, just because they made a video on china dont mean they are struggling.😂😂these type of videos can be made for every other country.

    • @miguelmig1771
      @miguelmig1771 Год назад

      STEW

  • @BlackMania1999
    @BlackMania1999 Год назад +1

    The world never ask the right question since 1978: should this country ruled by dictatorship be rich?

  • @jckbquck
    @jckbquck Год назад +44

    1. There has been this tendency in the Western business world and among Western economists to think about China's economy in a silo, isolating it from its politics. Lots of trust offered, risks taken by the West have been based on the naive belief that politics in China would only marginally affect Chinese businesses in the global arena. During the past two and a half decades, while Chinese businesses grew and rose in the global arena, what the West has discovered is that the Chinese government would change the rules, ignore established rules, and make up new rules on the fly, as often as it suited them. (Once at a US Naval contracting forum I attended, the presenter said, "In the West, you negotiate and then sign a contract. In China, you sign a contract and then begin to negotiate...."
    2. Just about everything that has developed in the People's Republic of China turned out to be a "bubble". Being in a hurry to grow, catch up with the West, and feed its population, China had to skip many steps in its development of its economy, technology, public infrastructure, defense, acamedics, and pretty much everything else. Most of the time, you can get away with skipping a step or two when you're making something (a cake, a tree house, a new business, a new military, a new middle class, a new nation). But more often than not, skipping means hollow; and hollow means easily breakable. This explains all those broken Chinese made household goods, Chinese made electronic appliances, collapsed Chinese buildings and roadway overpasses, the Chinese economy, the Chinese middle class, and perhaps even the PLA.

    • @Laurenlee87721
      @Laurenlee87721 Год назад +3

      Can’t agree more!

    • @tcfhk6399
      @tcfhk6399 Год назад +2

      to the point and the best coments describing the cn shortcomings

    • @NJBJ007
      @NJBJ007 Год назад +4

      West again making the same mistake with India

    • @johnnyblaze9217
      @johnnyblaze9217 Год назад +4

      @@NJBJ007no, India is democratic, china is not.

    • @vegamoonlight
      @vegamoonlight Год назад

      And yet you still believe the fake Western propaganda propagated by the anti-China governments and forces. Gullible! 😂😂

  • @Albee213
    @Albee213 Год назад +2

    I remember when the crash happened in America in 2008 and we were lectured by Chinese officials that they are now the leaders of economic growth and the future... Problem is and will always be they have too many people. There are not enough jobs in any sector to employ hundreds of millions.

  • @endodevices8129
    @endodevices8129 Год назад +46

    Most countries will experience growth and some decline from time to time.
    China is no different.
    The people will adjust accordingly.

    • @WorldIsWierd
      @WorldIsWierd Год назад

      Those countries are democracies with built in outlets. This is China first recession and they waited so long it’s gonna be a big one or a long one

    • @corey9200
      @corey9200 Год назад +9

      No. Bloomberg won’t let that happen.

    • @richiewalker0114
      @richiewalker0114 Год назад

      Adjust accordingly?? Time to dump the CCP.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад +6

      China is different in that its government has never had to deal with decline... and the implications towards its legitimacy. Most other places would swap out the leadership.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Год назад

      @@doujinflip authoritarian states are hard to topple at the best of times, a recession is probably the least likely thing to do it.

  • @voranartsirisubsoontorn
    @voranartsirisubsoontorn Год назад +1

    Love your choice of words: China Great Slowdown. But CCP Great Slowdown……..is more soecific

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 Год назад +5

    But surely economists in China KNEW that the economy could never keep growing at a level in the double digits? That doesn't make sense and I know nothing about Economics. No one should ever EXPECT that kind of growth to continue unabated. This is a global world and every negative thing that happens in one part of the world affects everyone else. I saw that their expected growth was expected at 7% and is at 6%-I'm pretty sure most people would be dancing if their economy grew 6% this year!! China needs to tamper down its expectations and realize that at some point the economy will reach a sustainable level that is realistic growth every year. Look at Ireland-the Celtic Tiger. Their economy finally came down to earth and China's is too.

    • @nehcooahnait7827
      @nehcooahnait7827 Год назад +1

      Are you from 2009? Cuz that double digit talk would make sense in 2009 cuz Chinese economy only grew 9% during GFC

    • @squiremc
      @squiremc Год назад

      China has a command economy that is directed not by profit but by political expediency. The party is throwing vast amounts of the countries wealth at saving face before the international market and is failing.
      While there is money to stuff into the pockets of corrupt functionaries the situation will continue.

  • @digijoe750
    @digijoe750 Год назад +2

    China economic model may have been successful in uplifting some of the population economically, but the data from CCP can not be trusted. Complete alleviation of poverty has not happened in China. Now with the economy in deflation, expect that the poverty rate to suddenly jump up.

  • @corey9200
    @corey9200 Год назад +11

    I like how Bloomberg takes the CCPs numbers as gospel lol

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      You should also like the IMF which is making the same report on China, EU and US.

  • @indonesianchinese5724
    @indonesianchinese5724 Год назад +2

    Love China from Indonesia

  • @walltiger6603
    @walltiger6603 Год назад +3

    yep, China has been slowing down, at the edge of collapse since 20 years ago, according to Bloomberg.

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад

      Haha true, next time the video title will be : ' China will be collapsing in two month' and he would publish this video every two month. Lot's of views and quick cash for Bloomberg.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Год назад +1

      1990. The Economist. China's economy has come to a
      halt.
      1996. The Economist. China's economy will face a hard
      landing
      1998. The Economist: China's economy entering a
      dangerous period of sluggish growth.
      1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for
      the Chinese economy.
      2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard
      landing risk coffin.
      2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in
      China.
      2002. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks a
      Soft Economic Landing
      2003. KWR International: How to find a soft landing if
      China..
      2004. The Economist: The great fall of China?
      2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in
      China
      2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft
      Landing?
      2007. TIME: Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China
      avoid a hard landing?
      2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China?
      2009. Fortune: China's hard landing. China must find a
      way to recover.
      2010. Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.
      2011. Business Insider: A Chinese
      2012. American Interest: Dismal Economic News from
      China: A Hard Landing
      2013. Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China
      2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China.
      2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You Got Yourself A
      Chinese Hard Landing..
      2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China
      2017. National Interest: Is China's Economy Going To
      Crash?
      2020. Economics Explained: The Scary Solution to the
      Chinese Debt Crisis
      2021. Global Economics: Has China's Downfall Started?
      2022. Cathie Wood: China's COLLAPSE Is FAR Worse
      Than You Think
      2022. Business Basics: China's Economic Crisis, GDP is
      Crashing, Protests Everywhere. China's financial crisis is
      Here.

  • @mcguigan97
    @mcguigan97 Год назад +23

    Nice reporting. But can we stop talking about "consumer confidence" as if that were a driver of GDP growth? Low confidence is a rationale response to low economic growth, not the cause of the low growth. Also please mention that China manipulates its economic statistics for political reasons, the 5.5% is higher than reality. Thank you.

    • @chew5461
      @chew5461 Год назад

      China's GDP growth rate of 5.6% in 2023 is given/projected by the WORLD BANK! Please be more knowledgeable before making your statements.

    • @timetraveller2300
      @timetraveller2300 Год назад +1

      of course, any negative reports are "Nice reporting", aren't they? these reports are automatically true and trustworthy. Bloomberg once highlighted an article on their front page claiming China has chips that monitors US servers. But experts in the chip industry have never even heard of such chips that are capable of things. Media like bloomberg can't even be trusted what can be trusted in your country? disgusting.

  • @joem0088
    @joem0088 Год назад +2

    4.5 to 5 percent growth is slow down ? What is it for Germany ?

    • @brck888
      @brck888 Год назад

      about 0.1%😂

  • @upinsos2025
    @upinsos2025 Год назад +10

    China H1 GDP growth 5,2%, China BRI 3,55 %, China Inflation 0,27 %... China great slowdown, what Logic...??? 😋😜😁

    • @claudiocarrera9552
      @claudiocarrera9552 Год назад

      they lie you wumao

    • @TheTravelmad
      @TheTravelmad Год назад

      There is a negative growth in tax revenues, that means the growth numbers are fake

    • @abcdedfg8340
      @abcdedfg8340 Год назад

      You should probably leave before you get piled on. I will be nice enough not to do it.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 Год назад +4

      1990. The Economist. China's economy has come to a
      halt.
      1996. The Economist. China's economy will face a hard
      landing
      1998. The Economist: China's economy entering a
      dangerous period of sluggish growth.
      1999. Bank of Canada: Likelihood of a hard landing for
      the Chinese economy.
      2000. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard
      landing risk coffin.
      2001. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landing in
      China.
      2002. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks a
      Soft Economic Landing
      2003. KWR International: How to find a soft landing if
      China..
      2004. The Economist: The great fall of China?
      2005. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in
      China
      2006. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft
      Landing?
      2007. TIME: Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China
      avoid a hard landing?
      2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China?
      2009. Fortune: China's hard landing. China must find a
      way to recover.
      2010. Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.
      2011. Business Insider: A Chinese
      2012. American Interest: Dismal Economic News from
      China: A Hard Landing
      2013. Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China
      2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China.
      2015. Forbes: Congratulations, You Got Yourself A
      Chinese Hard Landing..
      2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China
      2017. National Interest: Is China's Economy Going To
      Crash?
      2020. Economics Explained: The Scary Solution to the
      Chinese Debt Crisis
      2021. Global Economics: Has China's Downfall Started?
      2022. Cathie Wood: China's COLLAPSE Is FAR Worse
      Than You Think
      2022. Business Basics: China's Economic Crisis, GDP is
      Crashing, Protests Everywhere. China's financial crisis is
      Here.

  • @vish_010
    @vish_010 Год назад +2

    How can you believe that the GDP is really 5% ? Curious to know

  • @professorm4171
    @professorm4171 Год назад +31

    Some say the 5% gdp is overstated. It could even be -5% gdp.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Hearsay? Get a brain, will you??

  • @momo_san1980
    @momo_san1980 Год назад +1

    And.....the US rising interest rates has nothing to do with this....???

  • @crishhari5903
    @crishhari5903 Год назад +25

    China's slow growth of 5%, Europes negative growth/recession, US maybe recession/ maybe not. Global economy is slowing down as a whole because the easy days of 0% interest rate is over thanks to inflaction. Money printer can't to running forever.

    • @dennisestradda9746
      @dennisestradda9746 Год назад

      5% is bs and you know it

    • @aaap3875
      @aaap3875 Год назад

      China did not grow 5 percent if you believe that youre an idiot

    • @Jake-lu3bp
      @Jake-lu3bp Год назад +2

      We are booming in the USA. Money and jobs are everywhere

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      @@Jake-lu3bp
      We're seeing more homeless, jobless, lgb-t, trans-g and zombie apocalypse in America.

    • @crishhari5903
      @crishhari5903 Год назад

      @@Jake-lu3bp Booming with inflation?
      1 trillion dollar stimulus during covid so of course the ecnomony is awash with money. That is the cause of inflation. As for the jobs, US job market is doing great, too great in fact leading to increasing bargaining power on worker side, thus leading to increased wages and then inflation.
      The feds were and are hiking rates for a reason. They want to take back the stimulus money out of the system and in the process causing unprofitable/zombie companies to fail, leading to job lose and excess worker in the market, while in turn leads to employers have more power and bring wages undercontrol.

  • @bosskaloi
    @bosskaloi Год назад +2

    Naaaah, id prefer not made in china

  • @anypercentdeathless
    @anypercentdeathless Год назад +9

    Hard to move up the value-add chain when education emphasizes propaganda over critical thinking, creativity.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      China tops the world in patent rights since 2019. Get a brain, will you???

    • @jennifersun2638
      @jennifersun2638 Год назад

      true

  • @blag6666
    @blag6666 Год назад +1

    They cant grow forever. When reach a more advance level, you development become slower. There is no drama here.

  • @l34han
    @l34han Год назад +29

    "The coming collapse of China." Version 4.0 (after 20+ years)

    • @neo12470
      @neo12470 Год назад

      1990. The Economist. China's economy has come to a halt.
      1991. The Economist. China's economy will face a hard landing
      1992. The Economist: China's economy entering a dangerous period of sluggish growth.
      1993. Bank of Canada: Likelihood ofahard landing for the Chinese economy.
      1994. Chicago Tribune: China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin.
      1995. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas: A hard landingin China.
      1996. Westchester University: China Anxiously Seeks a Soft Economic Landing
      1997. KWR International: How to find a soft landing in China.
      1998. The Economist: The great fall of China?
      1999. Nouriel Roubini: The Risk of a Hard Landing in China
      2000. International Economy: Can China Achieve a Soft Landing?
      2007.TIME:Is China's Economy Overheating? Can China avoid a hard landing?
      2008. Forbes: Hard Landing In China?
      2009 Fortune: China's hard landing China must find a way to recover.
      2010. Nouriel Roubini: Hard landing coming in China.
      2011. Business Insider: A Chinese
      2012. American Interest: Dismal Economic News from China: A Hard Landing
      2013. Zero Hedge: A Hard Landing In China
      2014. CNBC: A hard landing in China.
      2015. Forbes: Congratulations, J You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing
      2016. The Economist: Hard landing looms for China
      2017. National Interest: Is China's Economy Going To Crash?
      2018. Economics Explained: The Scary Solution to the Chinese Debt Crisis
      2019. Global Economics: Has China's Downfall
      Started?
      2022. Cathie Wood: China's COLLAPSE Is FAR Worse Than You Think.

    • @nkristianschmidt
      @nkristianschmidt Год назад

      each crunch is worse

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад

      During the great collapse of China, GDP per capita ten folded. China better keep collapsing hahahaha.

  • @JulienVer
    @JulienVer Год назад +2

    And the debt grew in the meanwhile 300%, if people would look at growth in relation to debt accrued in the meanwhile, perhaps they would be less ecstatic about what they see as a ‘miracle’. All local governments, all Chinese banks lending mortgages all tie back into the central government. So this is China’s debt and not the CCP advertised 40%. And these are the ‘official’ figures the CCP wants you to see. It is not the same as the transparency levels enjoyed in the West. We are gullible…

  • @newschaser6414
    @newschaser6414 Год назад +9

    China has been growing drastically over the years, and according to experts, now they are just slowing down to normal pace like any other countries.
    They will be ok.

    • @abhijeetsingh1755
      @abhijeetsingh1755 Год назад +2

      Well they have huge population than others to handle and on top of that thier high debt to GDP ratio is likely to cripple them further.

  • @relaxwithanimals1819
    @relaxwithanimals1819 Год назад +1

    America is breaking up

  • @josephdewuhan
    @josephdewuhan Год назад +9

    US economy on the book is growing at 1.8% and satisfied but pointing to China's economy that is growing 5.2% as having difficulty.

  • @claudepoulin8558
    @claudepoulin8558 Год назад +7

    It’s never being a better time to stop buying made in China and start buying made in your country 🇨🇦🇺🇸

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      Ok. Soy, go ahead 😂😂de 😂😂.....

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      ..... Stup.........i,...........

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Decoupling or leaning towards China? Why not check that trade volume which registers positive increases with China???
      You're just another western politician chanting empty propaganda.

  • @holycow343
    @holycow343 Год назад +6

    China gdp 6.3 %
    US gdp 1-2%
    Bloomberg: "ChInA iS slOwiNG DoWn" 😂

    • @dennisestradda9746
      @dennisestradda9746 Год назад

      Just like Chynas 100 covid deaths 🦠😅🍲🦇

    • @SASA-dj7bf
      @SASA-dj7bf Год назад

      USA economy iz 25trillon....actual chinese economy iz around 7 trillion....it's fact....they are fooling there own ppl.

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад +1

      I can already see the comments lining up with the usual answer that is used whenever China is doing well.

  • @littlebitmckee8234
    @littlebitmckee8234 Год назад +15

    I wish USA would create and strengthen supply chains with Mexico and Canada then move south of the equator. Much more stability possible.

    • @Tom-tg2jl
      @Tom-tg2jl Год назад +2

      Don’t wish just stop buying things from China, I only buy things from 9 dash contestants like Vietnam, or if I can’t do that I take options from US Allies like Mexico.

    • @nekopop8159
      @nekopop8159 Год назад +2

      There are major US companies putting their assets in Canada and Mexico. For example, Tesla.

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад +1

      ​@@nekopop8159jajaja 😂😂. Tesla has the most great factory in Shangai and Musl does not have planned tp change ir in other place .....

    • @deekshantbelwal1269
      @deekshantbelwal1269 Год назад +2

      India is the answer. Fastest growing top economy. Under Narendra Modi India will become third largest economy in 3 years.

    • @NewmaticKe
      @NewmaticKe Год назад

      Already happening. Mexico & Canada is now the top and second trading partners of USA, pushing China to #3

  • @MachusPichusAmigo
    @MachusPichusAmigo Год назад +13

    An economy that copies more than it innovates has growth limitations.

    • @alanssshh
      @alanssshh Год назад +5

      that's why Chinese growth at 5.5% and American at 2% .LOL

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      China tops the world in patent rights nowadays.
      Get a brain!!!

    • @chenmen626
      @chenmen626 Год назад +3

      One Japanese entrepreneur once said. ( we take old innovation and prefected. Make cheap and better).

    • @fatronjones
      @fatronjones Год назад

      China growth CCP numbers are highly inflated.

    • @phillip76
      @phillip76 Год назад +1

      China 's economy is more innovative than America. Chinese business competition is the highest in the world, and without innovation, you can 't survive in such competitive landscape in China. What you say is repeat of some really common stereotypes of China which is false.

  • @kirklentz5255
    @kirklentz5255 Год назад +1

    Why can't they say communism sucks???

  • @ghrocker99661
    @ghrocker99661 Год назад +3

    The world would be fine without having China as its manufacturing hub, China would be lost, meaning that its economy would shrink dramatically and all chances of China becoming a superpower and surpassing the US would be lost. China's economy grew at such a fast rate in the 1980's and 1990's because it was a manufacturing powerhouse as its abundant young population was desperate to earn money and had no qualms about working a blue collar job. Nowadays, China's young population is way less abundant and has more college graduates than ever before. The vast majority refuse to work a blue collar job, because avoiding a blue collar job was the main reason why many went to university. China's current education system drains all creativity out of the students, any of these graduates becoming an innovator of any sector is highly unlikely; so as China loses its position as the world's manufacturing hub the less influence it will have on the world's stage. As China's influence on the world wanes, the more likely the CCP is to be called out for security breaches linked to data and technology loss, which could lead to less trading partners around the world. This is a big issue, because China isn't self sufficient; domestically it can only feed 65% of it's people and heavily relies on imports from other countries. This seems like a slippery slope, I get it, but its still a very real thing that can happen. Mexico is already well on its way to replacing China as the world's manufacturing hub, it's just a matter of time.

    • @oemcargps
      @oemcargps Год назад

      “Mexico is already well on its way to replacing China as the world's manufacturing hub” ,Again( USA=the world) a day without arrogance is a day wasted.

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад +1

      Ok. The world does not

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      The world does not need the USA too. We do not the wars and the innefficient systems sold for your country around the world....

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +1

      US is not the largest trading partner of China. ASEAN, SCO, BRICS, AFRICA, EU and Middle East are becoming more important to China trades nowadays.

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад

      China's economy didn't grew in 80s and 90s, it only begun after 2000s.
      'China's current education system drains all creativity out of the students, any of these graduates becoming an innovator of any sector is highly unlikely' LOL

  • @cheongshingho2012
    @cheongshingho2012 Год назад +1

    dont forget the only owner of the land is the government in China, and "land lending" is the major source of income for Municipal Governments

  • @melvinstarita
    @melvinstarita Год назад +12

    This is the right time to diversify the global supply chain. America and Europe must also invest in Japan (high-end), India(low-manufacturing) and in the ASEAN(low-manufacturing).
    Doing this will ensure cheap products the west seems to have had enjoyed.

    • @__daddy__
      @__daddy__ Год назад +5

      that's yesterday news. America and Europe are now begging for Chinese investment

    • @rmfelias
      @rmfelias Год назад +1

      @@__daddy__ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 - not laughing with you, laughing at you. XD

    • @__daddy__
      @__daddy__ Год назад +1

      @@rmfelias do you know how many trillion dollars the USA owes China?
      With a skyrocketing inflation and millions of homeless in street tents, how do u repay that debt to the Chinese?
      Your laugh may end up with tears 😆😆😆

    • @titan133760
      @titan133760 Год назад

      ​@@__daddy__ Actually, China owns around 2.6% of U.S. debt, which it buys because the Chinese yuan is pegged to the dollar. It would be impossible for China to call in all its U.S. debt at once, given the different maturity dates of the U.S. securities that China owns.

    • @__daddy__
      @__daddy__ Год назад +1

      @@titan133760 which parallel universe do u live in, where Chinese yuan is pegged to the dollar? 😅
      You seem to not have rudimentary knowledge about international finance and make very bold statement

  • @sirloin869
    @sirloin869 7 месяцев назад

    these are the days of reveng, so sweet...

  • @michaelgothenburg364
    @michaelgothenburg364 Год назад +27

    This is not about covid-19. What i see is more than a reaction to Covid-19 and a worldwide slowdown. It's about confidence, bubbles not only in real estate and huge hidden debt. All translate to confidence.

    • @WonderfulLidoff
      @WonderfulLidoff Год назад +1

      but china has a big population, you would think they would revenge spend like the how the west did. however, they arent spending because they lack confidence in the economy

    • @oltedders
      @oltedders Год назад

      Confidence has nothing to do with the Chinese economy. Chinese growth was built on a 40 year Ponzi scheme.

    • @yeelimlau7291
      @yeelimlau7291 Год назад +4

      hamm large population doesn't equal to large market. PRC has 1.4 b ppls,which 0.6b of them with income under 1K RMB per month,fortunately it doesn't have 1.4b market.

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip Год назад

      It doesn't even have 1.4b people. Independent estimates are closer to 1.0b and already shrinking.

    • @yeelimlau7291
      @yeelimlau7291 Год назад

      @@doujinflip you are knowledgeable and professional!

  • @sociolocomtsac
    @sociolocomtsac Год назад +1

    The GDP growth rate is BS

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад

      It's probably lower, but not disastrously low. Otherwise we'd immediately know without having to guess.

  • @petervanderveen2340
    @petervanderveen2340 Год назад +19

    Demographic collapse is china's biggest problem. They will never get back to the fast paced economy they had during the last 40 years. Additionally they have likely overstated the growth of their economy over the last 40 plus years. Imagine if they had exaggerated their growth by only 1%. 1x40 is 40%. Their economy may be 40% smaller than what they claim it is, and some people say that it has been even more overstated. 40% of 18 trillion is 7.2 trillion which would leave them with an economy of 10.8 trillion. They are in for a long tough road similar to Japan because of their ageing population

    • @DDDD_D-u9xy
      @DDDD_D-u9xy Год назад +2

      Actually, 1% during 40 years is equal to almost 49%. Not 40%. Source: a complex/compound %

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад

      Another hearsay to demonise China.
      Get your fact right,troll!!!

    • @IamHandsome4u
      @IamHandsome4u Год назад +2

      U most probably brought all those nos. from anti-china propaganda videos.😂😂

    • @RuslanMusin99
      @RuslanMusin99 Год назад

      ​@@IamHandsome4u демогоафия это факт. Просто посмотри на пирамиду и рождаемость

  • @David-u6z6w
    @David-u6z6w Год назад +1

    Hope this means they are less military bully of its neighbors

    • @jackie2-g8l
      @jackie2-g8l Год назад

      Military? China never bombed 100 countries

  • @IAm-NotHear
    @IAm-NotHear Год назад +3

    I fear a weakening economy might lead to Nationalism

    • @Wazzup1991
      @Wazzup1991 Год назад +2

      That's what happened to Germany during the great depression.

  • @alexzhang1897
    @alexzhang1897 Год назад +8

    As a Chinese, I have heard the same point of view since 20 years ago.🤣

  • @LiveFreeOrDie363
    @LiveFreeOrDie363 Год назад +6

    Please stop referring to China’s $18 trillion economy! It’s at best 1/2 of that.

    • @hkonhelgesen
      @hkonhelgesen Год назад

      In DDR geht alles nach plan.

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      Supports!!!!!!.....

    • @MrGatorress
      @MrGatorress Год назад

      How do You Tell that the chinese economy is the same size than Japan???? Stup.....i.....😂😂😂😂

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Год назад

      some people believe the stupidest conspiracy theories.

  • @silversurfer8237
    @silversurfer8237 Год назад

    The problem is the PRC doesn’t have the experience the FED has in handling crises. A centrally planned economy doesn’t anticipate crises like a capitalist economy and therefore acts more slowly & cautiously.

  • @chopinmack5418
    @chopinmack5418 Год назад +9

    Don't worry ! China is still growing at 5 -5.5% , which is still a lot better than the US & most of the Western countries .
    Bloombery may need to check the Homeless , Drug Abuse & Mass shooting problems in the US , which will hit the US
    economy and affect all other countries eventually !

    • @dennisestradda9746
      @dennisestradda9746 Год назад +5

      -5% with 40% youth unemployment

    • @nekopop8159
      @nekopop8159 Год назад +2

      China is facing economic problems that actually affect the lives of the Chinese people.
      In the United States, despite the gun problems only in *certain areas* the American people still have lots of jobs and lots of spending to do.

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Год назад

      ​@@dennisestradda9746Mommy jumped over the wall. Remember me? Hahaha

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Год назад +2

      @@nekopop8159
      We're seeing growing homeless, jobless, poverty, lgb-t, BLM, trans-g, Zombi apocalypse in the US nowadays.
      I'm pessimistic if the US can overcome the above problems economically and morally.

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад +1

      @@dennisestradda9746 That's india

  • @NewmaticKe
    @NewmaticKe Год назад +6

    Its a vicious cycle of economy affecting society and vis versa. Tough one

  • @sammigiancana2926
    @sammigiancana2926 Год назад +3

    Best way to damage China CCP is to review all your 401(k), pension plans, employee stock option plans, retirement plans, and look for the category ‘Emerging Market Asia.’ This mean 95-98% of this segment’s money is invested in China CCP. They try to hide this fact. Again, Emerging Market Asia = China CCP! Move ALL your money to other segments or categories that do NOT invest in China CCP. And, of course, buy as little as possible from China CCP!

    • @dzcav3
      @dzcav3 Год назад

      Remove your investments from BlackRock. It is one of the most pro-China, anti-freedom firms on the planet.

    • @joaovoador05
      @joaovoador05 Год назад

      Stop using the power grid ! Those are Chinese-made products with Chinese-tech !

  • @jasonf3963
    @jasonf3963 Год назад +1

    I doubt the economy is growing at 5.5% in 2023. Those are inflated numbers.

  • @darvidkoh2707
    @darvidkoh2707 Год назад +1

    Four months later, what slowdown are you talking about? Where is the slowdown?

  • @ansaipaoloricciardi2672
    @ansaipaoloricciardi2672 Год назад +8

    Japan 2.0

  • @freelancer1499
    @freelancer1499 Год назад +2

    isn't China's slowdowns caused by the West? Their failing economy and demand is causing lower demand and hence job losses in China....

    • @WonderfulLidoff
      @WonderfulLidoff Год назад +1

      no because if the chinese people spend their money, it will cause an increase in demand for goods. But you may ask why arent they spending? They don't have a positive outlook of the economy. Why should they spend when their real estate investments dropped 20% over the last 3 years? Why spend money when 20% of the youth are unemployed. Those are the people who are mostly eating out at restaurants and buying your latest tech gadgets.

    • @freelancer1499
      @freelancer1499 Год назад

      @@WonderfulLidoff It is because many are jobless because of the slowdown in the West.
      So the West instead of being self-aware of the issues they are causing globally, from the American's endless printing of the dollar causing global inflation, to provoking the war in Ukraine with Russia. They are now commenting on the "slowdown" in China?
      China economy is in a way more solid foundation and state than the Americans. Living on borrowed time and money. Each president kicking the can down the road, moving on after his term.

  • @南京航空航天大学研究
    @南京航空航天大学研究 Год назад +9

    城市化进程后期,企业的工作岗位普遍不要求甚至排斥员工结婚生育多胎,没有建立“多花多给,少花少给”的工资反馈机制,才是少子化和消费萎靡问题的根本原因。

    • @danieldjz
      @danieldjz Год назад +1

      China is the enemy.

    • @easymi9964
      @easymi9964 Год назад

      人口问题各国都一样,哪怕印度也是一样的曲线,欧美全靠新移民撑着

    • @NewmaticKe
      @NewmaticKe Год назад

      ​@@easymi9964什么人要移民去中国?

    • @eyaswoo1483
      @eyaswoo1483 Год назад

      哪一个伟大的国度建立了 “多花多给,少花少给” 的工资制度啊?

    • @南京航空航天大学研究
      @南京航空航天大学研究 Год назад

      @@eyaswoo1483 不是伟大才建立,而是建立才伟大

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Год назад +2

    It's crashing down!

  • @haldir3120
    @haldir3120 Год назад +7

    If 5% growth is the great slow down ,then were are the Western countries?

    • @Rattler808
      @Rattler808 Год назад +4

      he explained why at 3:50. its "slow" because its being compared to previous Chinese growth of up to 15%.

    • @naeaf
      @naeaf Год назад +1

      They're developed countries. They don't need to grow. Their infra is built, their militaries are well equipped, they have more or less eradicated poverty(it's coming back but it had gone away). So they don't need 10 pc growth.

    • @haldir3120
      @haldir3120 Год назад

      @@Rattler808 That is rather obvious. But who can reasonably expect to have 10 percent every year? A better comparison is to the peer group which are other big economies

    • @bin.s.s.
      @bin.s.s. Год назад

      The Chinese people haven't had an idea of what an economic reccession is about for entire two generations.

    • @haldir3120
      @haldir3120 Год назад +2

      @@bin.s.s. not even during the Covid years. It is quite impressive considering up until the 1980 there were living the equivalent of the European Middle Ages im terms of economy