question I'm fully geared on this, exception being the attack speed ga starless, Ive been trying for 2 weeks just cant get one, have a double lucky hitt, crit(useless) but i tripplecrit it and tossed it on. Anyways my gear is quite literally close to perfectrion, outside of the ring, and my pyro tempers for AS are a little meh, but I am .3% away from reaching 13 frame asp. I have a perfect roll on cast trwice on my focus and i hitt that twice and int one time. how important is being in side the 13 frame attack speed, should i sacrifice the one hit on intelligence and throw it on my mediocre Pyro AS temper to resolve the .4 or keep it as is. Just curiuos how important being in 13 bracket is
13 frame is pretty nice but it's not necessary for pushing. you'll be down about 7% fewer attacks(less damage, less teleports) but in the grand scheme it's not a big deal unless you are really pushing the timer to the limit. As goes for any gear levels with this build it's always important to try to find the balance of as few teleports as possible but also recognizing when teleporting more will produce more damage by positioning the mobs better or pulling in more mobs for more fireball enchant procs. Without GA Starless you'll be locked to 13 frame, my friend Puz did some frame testing and found the 14 frame cap to be 164.3, i'd try to aim for that.
@@voidseerxd i re mastered it and noticed a huge difference, I reached 157 with LS, I hoped into 150 to give it a test run as I have put aside playing with the shatter sorc, cause i have been switching back and fourth on one sorc two gear setups(complete nightmare lmao) but in the 150 test i was vaporizing everything, and could evade at will. I playedd firebolt last season, I actually did my 150 with it, so I'm pretty familiar with the style and pool up of mobs, but your video gave me a great idea with my bindings that has essentially already felt GAME changing, binding evade to right right click... I never even thought about it, and it's just a godsend. i am now in 13frame bracket after hitting the master on that pyro once, I will keep trying for the ring, so I can switch back to the int, but evade right click has never made me feel so comfortable with my other binds. funny how such a small change can literally make a build go from a clunkfest feeling to right at home!
@@voidseerxd Just wanted to let you know, I finally got the ring! switched the MW back to int for the 22 extra points of minmax, class feels AMAZING. Have to play perfection to not die, but that's partially what I like too, it's actually a challenege.
@@constantinople2837 congrats, yeah i don't really get why the build gets so much hate, i think it's really fun. it's annoying dealing with raiment TP bug but aside from that it feels like there's a lot more skill expression than just holding down a button and mashing my cooldowns like a lot of other build options
Sorry for all the comments and hope its ok, is the huge focus on cooldown mostly for the evade/teleport or to help keep ice armor and flame shield up or something else im missing?
@@voidseerxd Thank you so much! So I FINALLY got a GA CDR Shako and wondering if there is a CDR cap? I already triple MW GA CDR on tal rasha and have GA CDR on amulet and focus
@@kylerichings3065 CDR is multiplicative and hard caps at 75%. You only need about 65%(maybe even slightly less, depending on evade CDR roll on boots). That's why on the planner I have masterworks on nonphys/int for a couple items because I already have enough CDR to function that i'd rather have more damage.
i think you should be okay with any resource roll, unleashed+fiery surge+mana roll on boots+conj mastery should be enough, although restore mana is the best
It's quite gear dependent so first I would check out the planner and make sure you have similar gear to the starter setup (tab bottom left). Then it's all about creating the shatter; group up mobs in as few teleports as you can, firewall, apply burn with firebolt and make sure you're positioning the clump for flameweaver aspect, then use fireballs (at least 3, likely more) to shatter them before the CC timer runs out. CC timer for elites is 5s, 9s for normal/champions.
you can if you're dead set on it, it's just hard to recommend when it's so easy to respec to lightning spear even with bad gear and just delete everything on the screen
idk im pushing pit since 2weeks,stuck at 148 since 5-6days with ls..i tought ill just swap to this build so i could beat 150...well i cant even kill few packs in 148 with this..idk what am i doing wrong :(
if the season was a standard 3 months I probably would have but it's very time consuming i'm still trying to clear 168 for my final run if I can get it at all.
malice adds are just way more consistent to get a good shatter on, to get the same value shatters on spiritcaller he has to spend a lot of the fight near the entrance where the adds spawn because the mobs can desync if he's too far away. That and he moves around a lot more and there are more mechanics you have to dodge. Spiritcaller probably has the most potential but is so RNG it will almost never happen.
@@voidseerxdYeah I'll see how it goes once I get all masterworked up. I always seem to die way easier than any of the pit pushing builds I try to follow 😂
@@kylerichings3065 maxroll.gg/d4/planner/omqw408c could try a board like that should help a lot with survivability, if you need more than that could run reinforced instead of unleashed as well
beat 149 4min left with this new paragonboard thanks to you and mekuna
Absolutely Insane. Congrats on the 167 clear!!
Absolute insanity. Congrats bro
Once again, congratulations! Very intense ending!
INSANE!
man i cant type my comments fast enough, u get em down to quick haha
question I'm fully geared on this, exception being the attack speed ga starless, Ive been trying for 2 weeks just cant get one, have a double lucky hitt, crit(useless) but i tripplecrit it and tossed it on. Anyways my gear is quite literally close to perfectrion, outside of the ring, and my pyro tempers for AS are a little meh, but I am .3% away from reaching 13 frame asp. I have a perfect roll on cast trwice on my focus and i hitt that twice and int one time. how important is being in side the 13 frame attack speed, should i sacrifice the one hit on intelligence and throw it on my mediocre Pyro AS temper to resolve the .4 or keep it as is. Just curiuos how important being in 13 bracket is
13 frame is pretty nice but it's not necessary for pushing. you'll be down about 7% fewer attacks(less damage, less teleports) but in the grand scheme it's not a big deal unless you are really pushing the timer to the limit. As goes for any gear levels with this build it's always important to try to find the balance of as few teleports as possible but also recognizing when teleporting more will produce more damage by positioning the mobs better or pulling in more mobs for more fireball enchant procs. Without GA Starless you'll be locked to 13 frame, my friend Puz did some frame testing and found the 14 frame cap to be 164.3, i'd try to aim for that.
@@voidseerxd i re mastered it and noticed a huge difference, I reached 157 with LS, I hoped into 150 to give it a test run as I have put aside playing with the shatter sorc, cause i have been switching back and fourth on one sorc two gear setups(complete nightmare lmao) but in the 150 test i was vaporizing everything, and could evade at will. I playedd firebolt last season, I actually did my 150 with it, so I'm pretty familiar with the style and pool up of mobs, but your video gave me a great idea with my bindings that has essentially already felt GAME changing, binding evade to right right click... I never even thought about it, and it's just a godsend. i am now in 13frame bracket after hitting the master on that pyro once, I will keep trying for the ring, so I can switch back to the int, but evade right click has never made me feel so comfortable with my other binds. funny how such a small change can literally make a build go from a clunkfest feeling to right at home!
also to add my current AS right now is 168.8
@@voidseerxd Just wanted to let you know, I finally got the ring! switched the MW back to int for the 22 extra points of minmax, class feels AMAZING. Have to play perfection to not die, but that's partially what I like too, it's actually a challenege.
@@constantinople2837 congrats, yeah i don't really get why the build gets so much hate, i think it's really fun. it's annoying dealing with raiment TP bug but aside from that it feels like there's a lot more skill expression than just holding down a button and mashing my cooldowns like a lot of other build options
Sorry for all the comments and hope its ok, is the huge focus on cooldown mostly for the evade/teleport or to help keep ice armor and flame shield up or something else im missing?
ask away I'm here to help, you need it for both
@@voidseerxd
Thank you so much! So I FINALLY got a GA CDR Shako and wondering if there is a CDR cap? I already triple MW GA CDR on tal rasha and have GA CDR on amulet and focus
What happend to your build link ? Its unknown error now
@@andreanwantah2034 current setup should work now
@@kylerichings3065 CDR is multiplicative and hard caps at 75%. You only need about 65%(maybe even slightly less, depending on evade CDR roll on boots). That's why on the planner I have masterworks on nonphys/int for a couple items because I already have enough CDR to function that i'd rather have more damage.
What will you be playing for S6?
I'm not sure it depends on what's the most important content to clear, I'll probably start lightning spear then figure it out.
Is it possible to speed farm and t8 hordes with this
This is primarily a pit pushing build, I would suggest lightning spear for general content.
Im guessing the chance to restore resource temper on amulet is required right?
i think you should be okay with any resource roll, unleashed+fiery surge+mana roll on boots+conj mastery should be enough, although restore mana is the best
lets GO
my damage is suffering a ton what am i doing wrong? nmost I've hit yet was 25 mill
It's quite gear dependent so first I would check out the planner and make sure you have similar gear to the starter setup (tab bottom left). Then it's all about creating the shatter; group up mobs in as few teleports as you can, firewall, apply burn with firebolt and make sure you're positioning the clump for flameweaver aspect, then use fireballs (at least 3, likely more) to shatter them before the CC timer runs out. CC timer for elites is 5s, 9s for normal/champions.
Do you think a support barb could help push further?
yeah support barb+firebolt can go very far
Slowly trying to get a 75% or so version of this build lol. Im guessing it should stay away from infernal hordes?
you can if you're dead set on it, it's just hard to recommend when it's so easy to respec to lightning spear even with bad gear and just delete everything on the screen
Yeah just going to use my rogue to run hordes, so do the massive amounts of cooldown on this build help keep flame shield up for survival?
idk im pushing pit since 2weeks,stuck at 148 since 5-6days with ls..i tought ill just swap to this build so i could beat 150...well i cant even kill few packs in 148 with this..idk what am i doing wrong :(
with 2ga (aspd basicskill) 200% verathiel
4ga 93% flameweaver
3ga raiment
etc..
nice
do pit 180 with support barb like s4
if the season was a standard 3 months I probably would have but it's very time consuming i'm still trying to clear 168 for my final run if I can get it at all.
I see you’re always going with malice, is there a reason not spiritcaller?
malice adds are just way more consistent to get a good shatter on, to get the same value shatters on spiritcaller he has to spend a lot of the fight near the entrance where the adds spawn because the mobs can desync if he's too far away. That and he moves around a lot more and there are more mechanics you have to dodge. Spiritcaller probably has the most potential but is so RNG it will almost never happen.
GG, btw go activate your windows KEKW
How do you stay immortal pretty much?
definitely not immortal i just flame shield the things that would actually kill me
@@voidseerxdYeah I'll see how it goes once I get all masterworked up. I always seem to die way easier than any of the pit pushing builds I try to follow 😂
@@kylerichings3065 maxroll.gg/d4/planner/omqw408c
could try a board like that should help a lot with survivability, if you need more than that could run reinforced instead of unleashed as well
@@kylerichings3065 maxroll.gg/d4/planner/crr110so
tankier setup with reinforced
Thanks a lot that's awesome, I'm not looking to get to 167, would just love to get past 140 😁
gg can I play it on controller too or is it not playable bc of the pulls I want to clear at least t150
I can do it on controller. I actually prefer it in controller. It’s powerful but I don’t think I care for the squishy nature of it
Pixel pulling on controller is harder you always teleport max distance on controller evade tele & tele. It’s doable but not fun
i wish i knew how to stay alive with this build...im a mess lol
what you don't see in my clears is how many times i die in attempts xD
im playing in hardcore, but ive only done t7 and pit 81 lmao
A casual player can do this build?
You can play any build you want but I would say this is not a casual friendly build, I would suggest lightning spear for that.
Who can open a 150 pit for me?
Dude.... Too fast lol