integral of sqrt(tan(x)) by brute force

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +761

    Sorry for the reupload.
    I actually had a mistake on the integral of 1/(x^2-a^2) in the previous video.
    I will make up to you guys by checking my answer by differentiation! That video will be done soon!

    • @zackthotho7459
      @zackthotho7459 7 лет назад +4

      Np. it is fine

    • @lxathu
      @lxathu 7 лет назад +3

      This one's more worth the storage area of google than a dozen 9 percent of the content of YT.

    • @KeyMan137
      @KeyMan137 7 лет назад +1

      blackpenredpen Thanks

    • @AhnafAbdullah
      @AhnafAbdullah 7 лет назад +2

      Did you have to redo the video? or just edit the definition that showed on screen

    • @subinmdr
      @subinmdr 7 лет назад +1

      How do we factorize (u^4 + 1) ? plz

  • @barqueros2001
    @barqueros2001 7 лет назад +1222

    you know something is hard when blackpenredpen uses five colours

    • @seshnarayan7972
      @seshnarayan7972 3 года назад +13

      I only noticed 4 colours

    • @spooky2526
      @spooky2526 3 года назад +23

      @@seshnarayan7972 blue black red green purple!

    • @createyourownfuture5410
      @createyourownfuture5410 2 года назад +4

      @@spooky2526 Where is purple?

    • @esajpsasipes2822
      @esajpsasipes2822 Год назад +3

      @@createyourownfuture5410 he mentioned he uses purple for the second part of observe section (10:39) although it doesn't look that diffirent from blue

  • @MrSnowy737
    @MrSnowy737 7 лет назад +2394

    Imagine doing all this and then forgetting the +c

    • @Thelimitsof
      @Thelimitsof 5 лет назад +20

      Hamish Blair lol

    • @shayanmoosavi9139
      @shayanmoosavi9139 5 лет назад +110

      You would get zero marks in exam😂😂😂😂

    • @yrcmurthy8323
      @yrcmurthy8323 5 лет назад +3

      Edit the video

    • @triviumfanmexico
      @triviumfanmexico 5 лет назад +30

      It actually happened to me in an exam :(

    • @الأستاذأكرمقطار
      @الأستاذأكرمقطار 5 лет назад +12

      According to the question. For example, if the question is to find an original function for the next function, the answer without the constant is correct. But if the question is assigned to all the original functions. It must make +C

  • @Gillespie28
    @Gillespie28 7 лет назад +863

    I think my professor summed up integration in a nice way. He said differentiation is all about technique. You see a scenario and have a set of rules you then follow. Integration is a form of art. It's much more intricate and delicate.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +156

      TheDaltonGillespie I totally agree!!! Has he done this integral with u guys?

    • @agmt233
      @agmt233 6 лет назад +82

      My Further Maths teacher calls integration Black Magic. Two kinds of people I guess

    • @marcushendriksen8415
      @marcushendriksen8415 5 лет назад +39

      Integration is definitely more difficult, and thus satisfying

    • @tommyron1792
      @tommyron1792 5 лет назад +41

      I agree. It takes a clever mind to do differentiation problems with ease. But it takes a creative mind to do integration problems.

    • @shoobadoo123
      @shoobadoo123 5 лет назад +5

      AGMT further math? Are you international baccalaureate?

  • @whiz8569
    @whiz8569 7 лет назад +1072

    "1+1 is 2, right?"
    Calculus, everybody.

  • @eganrabiee627
    @eganrabiee627 5 лет назад +278

    "Welcome to the Salty Spitoon, how tough are ya?"
    "How tough am I? I just integrated a trig function!"
    "Yeah, so?"
    "integral(sqrt(tan x))dx"
    "Uh, right this way..."

    • @megauser8512
      @megauser8512 4 года назад +5

      Lol

    • @TheLucidDreamer12
      @TheLucidDreamer12 4 года назад +9

      "I just integrated 1/(x²+tan(x)) dx"

    • @jakepfeiffer6577
      @jakepfeiffer6577 2 года назад +2

      ∫√t̅a̅n̅x̅ dx

    • @createyourownfuture5410
      @createyourownfuture5410 2 года назад +4

      @@jakepfeiffer6577 WHERE. DID. YOU. GET. THAT. INTEGRAL. SIGN. FROM?

    • @jakepfeiffer6577
      @jakepfeiffer6577 2 года назад +2

      @@createyourownfuture5410 on Mac it’s just option + b
      Idk about windows but you can copy/paste it

  • @rileywells3045
    @rileywells3045 6 лет назад +138

    Mr Math Man.
    Math Me a Man.
    Make him integrate the square root of tan.

    • @kastormorgan1536
      @kastormorgan1536 6 лет назад +4

      stealing my joke, still love you though babe

  • @tesfayebabore6862
    @tesfayebabore6862 3 года назад +94

    this is pure game. There are very very few maths teachers at level of you. Thank you.

  • @Chrisuan
    @Chrisuan 4 года назад +51

    Me when finding this channel: "wtf is going on?!"
    Me rewatching 1 year later after having seen every bprp video: "alright easy didn't even need the DI setup"

  • @viktorsundstrom1217
    @viktorsundstrom1217 7 лет назад +169

    Integration is just the easiest thing ever... I can integrate √tanx + e^x² in seconds:
    Set up the integral:
    ∫ √(tan(x)) + e^x² dt
    And then just use the "inverse" power rule:
    (t)√(tan(x))+ (t)e^x²
    And we're done...
    I didn't say that I'ld do it with respect to x...

    • @restitutororbis964
      @restitutororbis964 6 лет назад +35

      Viktor Sundström LOL, or you could use horseshoe integration, Indeed one of the most powerful mathematical tools out there.

    • @neilshah754
      @neilshah754 6 лет назад +123

      Still forgot the +c dude 😂

    • @cesarturanzasfarill2976
      @cesarturanzasfarill2976 6 лет назад +1

      Sólo los pendejos dicen que está facil resolver un problema.

    • @gbugis6706
      @gbugis6706 5 лет назад +9

      @@neilshah754 *depression intensifies*

    • @pablovirus
      @pablovirus 4 года назад

      @@cesarturanzasfarill2976 calmate viejo, era un chiste. No lo entendiste??

  • @프로틴요플레
    @프로틴요플레 2 года назад +27

    I'm preparing a transfer exam for Korean universities and there was this question on my preparation problem set. Your solution was so helpful brother, thanks a lot!

    • @Awai_quotes
      @Awai_quotes 2 года назад +1

      And what you doing? In uni?

    • @프로틴요플레
      @프로틴요플레 Год назад +6

      @@Awai_quotes Electrical and Computer Engineering, but I think I failed the exam. I might just quit and make indie game

    • @alfredomulleretxeberria4239
      @alfredomulleretxeberria4239 Год назад +2

      @@프로틴요플레 So...how did it go for you?

  • @GustavoMerchan79
    @GustavoMerchan79 7 лет назад +150

    Evil integral to place on an exam ... :/

    • @rawn4203
      @rawn4203 4 года назад +4

      Would have to be like the only question or 1 of 2 questions.

    • @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562
      @kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 4 года назад +15

      I'm from India, and i am practising for this exam, I can assure you, there are more brutal questions.

    • @rahimeozsoy4244
      @rahimeozsoy4244 4 года назад +1

      @@kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 yeah for Indiana this is ez or normal

    • @sgsnake2x
      @sgsnake2x 3 года назад +2

      @@kishorekumarsathishkumar1562 im guessing they give you the space because with an A4 blank paper this would quickly turn messy for me as my handwriting is pretty big

    • @Wu-Li
      @Wu-Li 3 года назад

      This one is an easy problem

  • @Shome2049
    @Shome2049 3 года назад +8

    I just saw you instagram reel, where you give credit question and searched for this integral on RUclips.
    And I am so glad I found your video 😀!

  • @vishsri
    @vishsri 3 года назад +28

    Wow..you demonstrated this before 100k subs more than 3 years ago, today you have 687k. Wishing you for the next 313k

  • @XTheDentist
    @XTheDentist 6 лет назад +23

    I passed my semester of Calc 1! I did not fully understand everything but I believe I got a strong majority of it & I will be working on some of my weaknesses during break to prepare for Calc 2. For some reason when we got to U-substitution, everyone was confused but it seemed to make sense to me just based off the few example she gave in class and somehow that was all I needed. Anyway, so during last class before our final, she did a little review & answered questions. Someone asked about this sqrt(tanx) and she was like "oh you cant solve this with your current toolset, wait till next semester" and I was like "I can solve it" because I had all this false confidence from having understood the whole U-sub stuff. Well turns out this is a VERY difficult one lol. I guess if you are a student and want to be prepared for integrals, just spend a week studying just THIS one integral and you should be good to go lol.

  • @RyanLucroy
    @RyanLucroy 7 лет назад +21

    14:41
    "This is the two, so what should I do?" What a rhyme :O

  • @Johan-st4rv
    @Johan-st4rv 6 лет назад +127

    god damn I love math

  • @dr.rahulgupta7573
    @dr.rahulgupta7573 2 года назад +1

    Simple presentation of the difficult integral in a nice manner . Thanks .

  • @DGCubes
    @DGCubes 7 лет назад +106

    Oh man, I love this video. I watched the entire thing and enjoyed every second of it! Keep up the good work on your channel. :)

    • @Someone-cr8cj
      @Someone-cr8cj 7 лет назад +4

      DGCubes what are YOU doing here??¿

    • @DGCubes
      @DGCubes 7 лет назад +1

      What can I say, I like calculus. :P

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +9

      thank you DGCubes!!

    • @metalmathprofessor1467
      @metalmathprofessor1467 7 лет назад

      Me too, I watched the whole thing wondering what was going to happen next! Really a great calculus problem. I'm going to show it to all of my students!

    • @thephysicistcuber175
      @thephysicistcuber175 7 лет назад +1

      BOI!

  • @pasodirect
    @pasodirect 4 года назад

    Ez annyira bonyolult, hogy nincs értelme ennyit számolni, de blackpenredpen igazi zseni !

  • @pankajkumarpandey6658
    @pankajkumarpandey6658 3 года назад +1

    This is lengthy problem. Very few can solve in first time. We can only solve this problem if we practice at home. Your explanation is very nice

  • @weerman44
    @weerman44 7 лет назад +165

    15:02 WIZARD! Where can I buy this magic blackpen??

    • @agfd5659
      @agfd5659 7 лет назад +3

      WTF! I didn't even notice it before!! How did he do that?!

    • @morganmitchell4017
      @morganmitchell4017 7 лет назад +14

      He edited it because he forgot the (-) sign

    • @weerman44
      @weerman44 7 лет назад +9

      Haha I understand that
      Just a silly comment ;)

    • @vvsutar6179
      @vvsutar6179 7 лет назад

      Morgan Mitchell Johnson

    • @habiburrehman7108
      @habiburrehman7108 6 лет назад

      hahaha i also noticed after you comment.....

  • @pkiverson
    @pkiverson 7 лет назад +2

    Slightly more straightforward (although much longer/messier): Factor x^4 + 1 = (x^2 + sqrt(2)x+1)(x^2 - sqrt(2)x+1), then do partial fractions, complete the square in the denominators and solve. This saves you from having to figure out the trick where you add 1/u^2 and subtract 1/u^2.

  • @rajendramisir3530
    @rajendramisir3530 6 лет назад +6

    I like this integral and its anti-derivative. I am impressed with your technique of using trigonometric and u-substitution along with algebraic manipulation to arrive at the answer.

  • @Kino-Imsureq
    @Kino-Imsureq 7 лет назад +20

    10:54 defenitely most important part

  • @EyadAmmari
    @EyadAmmari 3 месяца назад

    Brilliant. So many techniques in one shot.

  • @vidaroni
    @vidaroni 7 лет назад +4

    You, my good sir, are turning calculus into art! Awesome video!

  • @disgruntledtoons
    @disgruntledtoons Год назад +1

    Brute force is taking Taylor's expansion of the square root of the tangent, and integrating *that*.

  • @AhnafAbdullah
    @AhnafAbdullah 7 лет назад +16

    I just differentiated this myself, it starts out ridiculously complex, but it slowly starts to fit in with everything, good luck on doing it! You might need 6 boards to do it, I managed to do it in 1 board, but I had to rub out a lot of the work out I did

    • @ramking7869
      @ramking7869 Год назад +2

      Differentiating sqrt(tanx) is not hard at all😂

    • @RayTracingX
      @RayTracingX Год назад +10

      ​@@ramking7869 he is about differentiating the antiderivative of sqrt(tanx)

  • @mahj1
    @mahj1 4 года назад +1

    I LITERALLY LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU DESERVE THE WHOLE WORLD

  • @FingertipsOfTheNight
    @FingertipsOfTheNight 4 года назад +10

    Ok, so in the beginning we have a pretty simple mathematical expression while the result in the end is something horrible. Things tend to evolve naturally from more complex to simpler. I therefore consider it normal to leave this formula unintegrated. Thank you for all your thumbs up ! :D

  • @rogerrb7776
    @rogerrb7776 6 лет назад +43

    The most difficulty integral that i ever seen in my entire life! But it was really good xD

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  6 лет назад +38

      Thank you : )
      And..... there's the integral of cbrt(tan(x))

    • @raytheboss4650
      @raytheboss4650 2 года назад

      @@blackpenredpen imo that’s easier than this

  • @MagnusSkiptonLLC
    @MagnusSkiptonLLC 7 лет назад +1

    I majored in physics in school and always preferred the more pure abstract mathematical parts of it. Watching this video is like taking a mental vacation back into the past. I'm happy that I was able to follow it through to the end on my first viewing :)

  • @rakshithgowda1606
    @rakshithgowda1606 6 лет назад +38

    And pretend nothing happened!??
    Great lines

  • @morganthem
    @morganthem 7 лет назад +27

    So...
    u substitute for fx
    Square u = sqrt (tanx).
    See that 2udu = sec^2(x) dx.
    Squaring u^2 = tanx gives us tan^2(x) = sec^2 (x) -1 = u^4 which we can see as sec^2 (x) = u^4 + 1.
    Thus dx = 2udu/u^4 + 1.
    Plug in original equation to have integral of u*(2u/u^4 + 1)du.
    Multiply top and bottom by 1/u^2 to get complex fraction with sum of squares in denominator.
    Complete the square to get (u + 1/u)^2 - 2, which has derivative of inside equal to 1 - 1/(u)^2.
    Now we want two integrals (why? it is not clear unless you see the tanh^-1 and tan^-1 option coming up), one with 1 - 1/(u)^2 in numerator and other with 1 + 1/(u)^2 in our numerator.
    Because the completed square can have two forms we can have the appropriate denominators to do two more substitutions, this time with t and say w.
    If we do the substitutions correctly we have two integrals, one being of 1/(t^2 - 2), and our other being of 1/(w^2 + 2), both in their respective worlds.
    A formula exists for these forms to be integrated neatly into tanh^-1 and tan^-1 forms. Substitute u back in for t, w, and sqrt (tanx) for u.
    Do this correctly, and then
    Add c and we're done.
    I did this mostly for my own understanding, but I'm fairly sure I didn't skip too much for it to act as a quick summary.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +5

      This is great! It's good to work out the problem on your own or along the way.

  • @aashishkarki7867
    @aashishkarki7867 4 года назад +3

    You made me fall in love with mathematics!❤️ Thank you!

  • @AlbertoRamirez-cw6dy
    @AlbertoRamirez-cw6dy 4 года назад +23

    When you do all of this in the exam and you realize the integral was sqrt(tanx + 1)

  • @jilagamnagendrakumar5522
    @jilagamnagendrakumar5522 5 лет назад +4

    10:43 that's your brilliancy sir

  • @Adam_42_01
    @Adam_42_01 7 лет назад +96

    10/10 what a trip

  • @jagirsingh2394
    @jagirsingh2394 2 года назад +4

    It feels nice that i solved it all by myself for the most part. I have some amazing teachers. Can't thank them enough

  • @anthonyjaas
    @anthonyjaas 6 лет назад +2

    Very well work dude, the resolution was easier than I thought, I had problems when using trinomio. You got a like and a new subscriber!

  • @cruciflux8634
    @cruciflux8634 4 года назад +2

    Did you guys notice how he changed his pens at 05:23? That was awesome!

  • @prollysine
    @prollysine 2 года назад +1

    Gratulálok, lenyűgöző végig az átváltások sorozata ! Főleg az (U^2 + (1/U)^2) átalakítása !

  • @aikanikhil24
    @aikanikhil24 3 года назад +1

    We can solve this in some other way too. We can write sqrt tanx as 1/2 {(sqrt tanx + sqrt cotx)+ (sqrt tanx - sqrt cotx)},and then break these into sin cos expressions,and then subtitute sinx + cosx = t and sinx-cosx = k in the first and second integrals respectively,and then apply the standard integral formula. Anyways love you process too!

  • @kathysaurio
    @kathysaurio Год назад

    I always understand your calculus explanations. Thank you.

  • @tanmayagarwal4981
    @tanmayagarwal4981 5 лет назад +15

    Got to see this question first time on my exam today... carrying weightage of 6marks.. was totally fucked up😑

  • @factified9892
    @factified9892 2 года назад

    you are seriously the best maths teacher!

  • @DriverMate
    @DriverMate 6 лет назад +10

    6:13 out of context is beautiful

  • @JayOnDaCob
    @JayOnDaCob 2 года назад +2

    This turned to blackpenredpengreenpenbluepenpurplepen real quick

  • @ashotdjrbashian9606
    @ashotdjrbashian9606 3 года назад

    I've seen this video a couple years ago but decided to comment only now. First of all, very nicely done! Without trying to diminish guy's effort and all the excitement of the viewing public, I just wanted to remark that from the view of pure math this is absolutely worthless. Here's why: In all applications (including physics, engineering, and even math) ALL integrals are definite. This integral would be of interest only if integral is from, say 0 to pi/2. In couple of steps now I'll solve the problem of integrability and the value of that integral.
    First, simple substitution v=pi/2-x translates this integral to the integral of \sqroot(cotv) over the same integral. Second, cotv is approximately inverse the of v for small v, so the question is \sqroot(1/v) integrable, and the answer is, of course yes. And we are done!
    If somebody needs the numeric value, just take integral of \sqroot(1/v) from 0 to 0.01 and then calculate the remaining part from 0.01 to pi/2 by whatever method of approximate integration.

  • @ngonotseg719
    @ngonotseg719 9 месяцев назад

    You are a brilliant Math teacher

  • @CasualGraph
    @CasualGraph 7 лет назад +2

    Man, so many colors! If you wrote blackpenredpen in that empty space and taken a picture, you'd have a pretty good channel banner.

  • @javierarmandopalacios786
    @javierarmandopalacios786 2 года назад +1

    The math is a universal languaje. I'm peruvian, but i can see this video and understand it!🤩

  • @TheYoshi463
    @TheYoshi463 7 лет назад +4

    sqrt(-1) just love your videos!
    I'm gonna start studying math very soon and your videos really hype me for it^^

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +2

      THANK YOU!!! I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS!!

    • @agfd5659
      @agfd5659 7 лет назад +2

      Your pun made me cringe. I hope you're happy! :D

    • @mrocto329
      @mrocto329 2 года назад

      @@blackpenredpen 4 years later you are still inspiring people. I'm only 14 right now, so don't have any solid plans for uni etc. (other than studying CS as I like programming) but now you got me interested in maths! I've been spending my afternoons just trying to learn maths for the past few weeks, and it's been really fun so far!

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP Год назад

    I think that the most monumental achievement humanity could ever hope to accomplish would be to find an intuitive understanding of how to go directly from the integrand to the antiderivative in one step...

  • @Happyclownman
    @Happyclownman 5 лет назад

    I passed calc 2 this summer and then I looked at this video because I couldn't figure this out on my own. I heard "Hyperbolic tan" and had a mental breakdown and screamed aloud, "SINCE BLOODY WHEN IS THERE A THING CALLED HYPERBOLIC TANGENT!? THEY'RE JUST MAKING NEW THINGS TO MESS WITH ME!" followed by expletives and crying.

  • @gregoriousmaths266
    @gregoriousmaths266 4 года назад +3

    YAY I got this correct
    Imma do a video on how I did it and then compare it with your method.
    This took me ages btw

  • @tomatrix7525
    @tomatrix7525 4 года назад +1

    Your reslly entertaining and it is very interesting. I love your out of the box thinking to manipulate things to make them work!,,

  • @Jessica-gy4qo
    @Jessica-gy4qo 5 лет назад +3

    Thank youuuu❤, greetings from 🇨🇴

  • @hmlawdavid2003
    @hmlawdavid2003 4 года назад +5

    19:05 Try to differentiate THIS to give sqrt(tan x)

  • @akshaykishoredesai2017
    @akshaykishoredesai2017 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos sir, you make very complex calculus part easy 😃😃

  • @sauravthegreat
    @sauravthegreat 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic video. Very well explained. Thx

  • @pankajkumarpandey6658
    @pankajkumarpandey6658 3 года назад +1

    I solved this problem long back. ie in 1982 when I was in class 12th.

  • @shantanudash5217
    @shantanudash5217 5 лет назад +1

    Very good explanation... Thanks a lot

  • @2008abhik
    @2008abhik 3 года назад +1

    Quite a popular integral in jee exams in the 80s where u had maths 200 marks ,40 questions carried 5 marks each and attempt all questions

    • @jamescollier3
      @jamescollier3 9 месяцев назад

      yeah. I had some sort of flashback

  • @brucefrizzell4221
    @brucefrizzell4221 5 лет назад +3

    As my Cal 3 Professor used to say
    " What could be simpler ."

  • @SoumilSahu
    @SoumilSahu 7 лет назад +72

    I guess I'll comment again. You could do e^(-x^2) for a 100k!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +27

      Lol!
      I hope that's from -inf to inf

    • @SoumilSahu
      @SoumilSahu 7 лет назад +5

      Wow! I can't believe you remember!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +6

      Soumil Sahu I do!! Lol

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +16

      Soumil Sahu I am kinda sad since i lost all the wonderful comments from the previous video. But I really wanted this to be fixed

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 7 лет назад +4

      Error function, Gamma function , series expansion, nothing else can be done

  • @gagadaddy8713
    @gagadaddy8713 6 лет назад

    What a gorgeous way to find the answer! Who is the genius first to find u+1/u and u-1/u pairs for this question? It really drive me crazy for such an integral. Thank BPRP.

  • @KORaju-nd7pt
    @KORaju-nd7pt 2 года назад

    This integration can be done by other simple methods. You brought this into a difficult way.

  • @TheMauror22
    @TheMauror22 7 лет назад +1

    Finally! Loved the video! Is great! You could do the same integral for the 100k, but now you do it the hard way! (The one with partial fractions and with the factorization of u^4+1, and with the natural log result!)

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +1

      Mauro Castañeda I would need another white board for that tho. Lol

  • @CrypticalGaming
    @CrypticalGaming 3 года назад +1

    You could've used another formula/ method for integrating the 1/(t^2 -2)
    just by using :
    integral of 1/(x^2-a^2) = (1/2a)*( ln( |x-a|/|x+a| ) .
    that would have been more easy and intiutive than hyperbolic inverse function.(just saying)
    BTW very nice explanation sir. Great content. You're a wonderful teacher.
    PEACE

  • @williamwen7190
    @williamwen7190 7 лет назад +2

    If you plug in 0.5 for the integral function, then (sqrt(tan 0.5)+sqrt(cot 0.5))/sqrt(2)= 1.4793, but arctanh(1.4793) is undefined. The range of (sqrt(tan x)+sqrt(cot x)/sqrt(2)is alway greater than 1, which makes arctanh(sqrt(tan x)+sqrt(cot x)/sqrt(2)) always undefined for this integral function.

    • @DougCube
      @DougCube 7 лет назад

      undefined or complex, but either way I think you are right -- see my comments

    • @williamwen7190
      @williamwen7190 7 лет назад

      DougCube But integral from 0.2 to 0.5 of sqrt(tanx) is defined and real from the graph of sqrt(tanx). And all the result of this integral function is complex or undefined.

  • @AlejandroRodriguez-lq9mz
    @AlejandroRodriguez-lq9mz 7 лет назад +3

    Watching for second time, now i got it! :D Great video!!!

  • @ChrisMMaster0
    @ChrisMMaster0 2 года назад

    Wow, balckpenredpen is increasing the color expectrum of his calculations 😲

  • @vcvartak7111
    @vcvartak7111 3 года назад

    There is simple method (I Feel) put x=(pi/4-t) dx=-dt and integral become sqrt(1-tan(t))/1+tan(t)) after rationalising numerator we get (1-tan(t)/sqrt(1-tan(sq)t) which is (cos(t)-sin(t))/sqrt(cos(sq)t-sin(sq(t)) now split the integrals. Cos(t)/sqrt(1-2sin(sq)t) other integral is sin(t)/sqrt(2cos(sq)t-1) by sqrt(2) manipulation we get u/sqrt(1-u(sq)) other u/sqrt(u(sq)-1) both forms are familiar having formulae

  • @cardflopper3307
    @cardflopper3307 3 года назад

    I couldn't do this integral without u

  • @nasaxd1862
    @nasaxd1862 4 года назад +2

    Purple pen = turbo

  • @bioengboi137
    @bioengboi137 4 года назад

    Very symmetrical so much so with all those arctans and tan x's you could combine them except for that little h in the inverse hyperbolic tangent it stands for Hell in this integral bc you can't take tanh^-1(n) ||n|| > 1, ~|tan x| + |cot x| w/o screwing up the rest of it unless it's some kind of cubic solution with complex b coefficient ~ 1/3 ln (i)
    Point it seems so close to y = f(x); f^-1(y) = x, x could be 0-2π with no trouble you would run into complex numbers but they cancel themselves out ish

  • @RB_Universe_TV
    @RB_Universe_TV 3 месяца назад +1

    Ahh yes BlackpenRedpenBluepenGreenpenPurplepen

  • @aditya3984
    @aditya3984 3 года назад +1

    was trying to do on my own but was stuck after first substitution this video helped.

  • @Vaibhav-ye6to
    @Vaibhav-ye6to 9 месяцев назад

    prolly the first time im actually being happy after a maths answer

  • @jonathanvukaj2198
    @jonathanvukaj2198 7 лет назад +4

    He didn't reupload this video, we all just have a déjà-vu at the exact same moment.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +2

      Sorry for the reupload.
      I actually had a mistake on the integral of 1/(x^2-a^2) in the previous video.
      I will make up to you guys by checking my answer by differentiation! That video will be done soon!

  • @metalmathprofessor1467
    @metalmathprofessor1467 7 лет назад +5

    Riveting :) Bravo on a brilliant solution! I think I could explain that to someone else now!

  • @davisnganga6266
    @davisnganga6266 5 лет назад

    The trick is to complete the square. Got it.👏👏👏👏

  • @KING-ni4ze
    @KING-ni4ze 4 года назад +1

    Put u=tan x and then differentiate it,
    sec^2 x= 1+tan^2x

  • @tgx3529
    @tgx3529 3 года назад

    All depens on interval for x. If this integral is for x in (0.5;1) you can use sqrt(tg)=1/(sqrt (cotgx x) And use substitution y=sqrt(cotgx), than you have short solution

  • @bobbackstrom4035
    @bobbackstrom4035 7 лет назад +1

    Fantastic sqrt(tan(x)) explanation. Love your integrals.
    Then I went to Wolframalpha.com and asked for "indefinite integral((tan(x))^(1/20))" and it WORKED.
    The 40 lines of output are incredible, starting with:
    cos(pi/4)arctan(csc(pi/40)tan^(1/20)(x)-cos(pi/40))) -
    Check it out!

    • @megauser8512
      @megauser8512 4 года назад

      Actually, it's cos(pi/40) * arctan(csc(pi/40) * (tan^(1/20)(x) - cos(pi/40))) -.
      You forgot the 0 in the 1st cosine term.

  • @josebarona271
    @josebarona271 7 лет назад +1

    Best birthday gift , thanks

  • @dekz0911
    @dekz0911 4 года назад

    Mind blown after watching this after I have forgotten mathematics...gotta study again

  • @ny6u
    @ny6u 4 года назад

    Every integral tackled for the first time is a journey into the unknown...

  • @andrewfischer-garbutt2867
    @andrewfischer-garbutt2867 Год назад

    I did the integral in a slightly different way. I ended up with
    (sqrt(2)/4) * log(abs((1/2 + (sqrt(tan(x)) - sqrt(2)/2).^2) / (1/2 + (sqrt(tan(x)) + sqrt(2)/2).^2))) +
    (sqrt(2)/2) * atan(sqrt(2*tan(x)) + 1) +
    (sqrt(2)/2) * atan(sqrt(2*tan(x)) - 1).
    I also let u = sqrt(tan(x)) but in of multiplying through by 1/u^2 I added and subtracted 2u^2 from the denominator and then factoring the result using difference of squares. Once I had it in a factored form, I used partial fractions.

  • @Krishnarahul7
    @Krishnarahul7 5 лет назад

    Observation is the best thing in indefinite integration

  • @bbxrhythm1127
    @bbxrhythm1127 4 года назад +2

    3:50 take t = u^2

  • @ernestschoenmakers8181
    @ernestschoenmakers8181 7 лет назад +4

    This integral can also be done by partial fractions decomposition. 1+u^4 can be factorized into (1+sqrt(2)u+u^2)(1-sqrt(2)u+u^2).

  • @HaitaoWang268
    @HaitaoWang268 4 года назад

    Yesss! This question was on my calc 2 final exam and I got it right!

  • @imme3024
    @imme3024 Год назад

    If we use fractional decomposition to integrate 1/(x^2-a^2) , we'll get
    1/(x^2-a^2) = [1/(2*a)] * [ 1/(x-a) - 1/(x+a) ] and therefore its integral is equal to
    [1/(2*sqrt(2))] * ln( |(t-sqrt(2)) /(t+sqrt(2))| ), by replacing "a" with sqrt(2).
    That's not the same as (1/a) * tanh-1 (x/a)

  • @govindarajan585
    @govindarajan585 4 года назад

    We do this in 12th grade in India.
    Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳

  • @sahelipaul8436
    @sahelipaul8436 2 года назад +1

    This one came in my 12th pre test. So glad I skipped it.

  • @brayamstevenrubianohernand8562
    @brayamstevenrubianohernand8562 6 лет назад

    Gracias, haces todo fácil
    Saludos desde Colombia

  • @-minushyphen1two379
    @-minushyphen1two379 5 лет назад

    I wish blackpenredpenblepengreenpenpurplepen was my secondary school maths teacher
    This made me want to take up calculus all over again...