@@DerekPaulGuitar I can't find any spectrums in stock anywhere apart from a few used units in Japan and texas. was it discontinued or something? And have you any experience with an optima air? How would you rate it against the aura spectrum?
@@StigPrice Hi, i did a review on the optima air, i really liked it, thought it was a great pedal for acoustics, no experience with the aura spectrum though unfortunately... ruclips.net/video/yN-lV-kPcj4/видео.html
Everybody keeps saying that you HAVE to use a microphone, that you CAN'T use the pickup, but I actually like the direct sound. I had recorded songs with my acoustic 12 string, directly on my lap-top with Audacity, more than 10 years ago. Without a direct box. It sounded and still sounds very good. I like this clean, precise, crystal-clear sound, even if it's a bit cold and metallic. It sounds 80's, new wave, and I like it. But I think it's even better using the pickup AND a mic. Also, I think that the direct sound sounds better in a band situation, with other instruments, than if you play alone.
Not bad at all, but in my experience some sort of pick up, magnetic or piezo, blended with a mic sounds better. Not better in purely sonic terms, but the unappealing tone of pick ups, and the possibility to process both sources separately, is crucial in order to get the right amount of presence, low end and microphonic natural tone. The wireless option is surely interesting,
Acoustic guitars aren't designed to be listened to from the inside, you can hear it's boxy and bassy as you'd expect. Might be a useable sound in some contexts but I don't imagine it's great in a whole band mix.
Hmmm, I love the idea of a condenser mic and wireless. Very intriguing. Great job with the demo and all of the explanation on how the set up works with different acoustics. I think I’m going to rewatch the video with my eyes closed and try to pick out the system versus the other set ups you had. Sweet!🎸🙌 (PS, nice work on classical gas)
Just bought k and k meridian condenser mic, body clamp, pro preamp and plastic case for 400$. The mic can be placed anywhere on the body outside guitar.🎉🎉🎉
Sounds good but why are you like 3 foot away from the blue mic? A condenser mic would smash an in-body condenser mic for recording purposes if set up properly
It does look like it doesn’t it from that angle but I was actually 24” away with the mic in front of the sound hole pointed at the 12th fret and the gain up on the preamp
How loud can you go before it feeds back? Could work well with an impulse response pedal.... You can get pretty darn good results with bridge plate conductor pickups too.... And a good acoustic amp.
Sounds good! Worth the $500 but I wouldn't buy it at that price. But if I started gigging more maybe I would because plugged up acoustic guitars never sound that great.
I don’t know if it can be adjusted out but I noticed an obnoxious hissing noise throughout the Isolo samples. Maybe a gate would help but even when the guitar was sustaining, it was very noticeable and a deal breaker for me, in addition to the price point. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching! The RUclips compression algorithms plays havoc with sound examples, I didn’t notice it in the room, cheers for the comment and stay well!
Sounds good. I like the mounting system and having effects built in to the receiver is neat, but any mic inside a guitar will scream past a certain volume in a live environment. Nice for adding a blend with your under-saddle pickup though. BTW, I'm one of the people that dislike piezo pickups! (They do provide a usable sound, if not a nice one.) Also I notice you went with pee-ay-zo, some people say pie-zo, some pee-et-zo, some pee-zo...I think we need an international standard for the pronunciation of this word! I'm never sure how to say it, ha!
Haha yeah I stuck with my pronunciation, I used it once live so far and there was no feedback, I kept the gain low and the master volume on the amp was my volume adjustment, could be a great idea to blend the two pickups actually. Good call and worth a try! Hope all is well in your world mate (saw your great new videos)
Very interesting. Sounds good. A small bit of high frequency spike but not bad. could be handled with EQ. this is the first I've seen of this unit. thank you for reviewing it. I will compare with others but this is very intriguing especially when I have three acoustic guitars I could switch this unit between. Side note: the transition sound you added to the video clips was a little annoying.
No, it is not better than a properly miked acoustic guitar and it is certainly not better than using a Blue Baby Bottle mic, which is not the best mic to always use in live situations anyway. Yes, it sounds better than a typical, quacky, under-the-saddle piezo pickup, but that's not saying much. Also, on stage, a wireless system cannot always be trusted unless you are in a carefully controlled venue that has precautions against interference and drop-outs.
great stuff! a few questions, did you gig with it a lot more with different amps, speakers and PA’s? have you ever experienced feedbacks? have you blended the pickups of your acoustic and the isolo mic? how did it sound? how durable is it? any pros and cons for this mic?
i only gigged through 1 amp and a PA system, didn't experience any feedback, i didn't blend the sound, just used the pickup and it's very durable, the only con is if you play single note solos then it does pickup the squeaks from the strings, no complaints other than that.
Thanks for the comment, the tonewood am is something very different, it uses the resonance from the guitars wood, amplified this sounds more natural I’d say
Sorry but it sounds very poor to me , sounds tinny and with the effects it’s like an electric guitar instead of producing the natural acoustic sound👎 . You should try the Journeyman really good natural sound and it’s passive and it’s only 40 something pounds
@@DerekPaulGuitarI bought 400$ k and k meridian condenser mic on a body clamp to a pro preamp. Can place mic anywhere on body for better base and treble. The preamp is cool.
None of these sounded particularly good and I could've very easily gotten better mic placement so its not a great comparison. Its like how do these bad pickups stack up against a badly mic'd acoustic? The answer is they all suck
@@DerekPaulGuitar But it IS mic'd, just from inside the sound hole instead of outside. And if you really think you can't get a better sound from a good external mic, you're delusional.
Love to hear your comments on this system!
Can you run the receiver into a fishman aura DI??
@@StigPrice Absolutely! superb amp by the way!
@@DerekPaulGuitar I can't find any spectrums in stock anywhere apart from a few used units in Japan and texas. was it discontinued or something?
And have you any experience with an optima air? How would you rate it against the aura spectrum?
@@StigPrice Hi, i did a review on the optima air, i really liked it, thought it was a great pedal for acoustics, no experience with the aura spectrum though unfortunately... ruclips.net/video/yN-lV-kPcj4/видео.html
@@DerekPaulGuitar awesome. Watching it Now! Thank you so much :)
Thank you!
I'll be putting my order in the next few days.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Everybody keeps saying that you HAVE to use a microphone, that you CAN'T use the pickup, but I actually like the direct sound. I had recorded songs with my acoustic 12 string, directly on my lap-top with Audacity, more than 10 years ago. Without a direct box. It sounded and still sounds very good.
I like this clean, precise, crystal-clear sound, even if it's a bit cold and metallic. It sounds 80's, new wave, and I like it.
But I think it's even better using the pickup AND a mic.
Also, I think that the direct sound sounds better in a band situation, with other instruments, than if you play alone.
I hate the piezo quack with a passion... I will never use that sound. That is not an acoustic guitar sounds like
I would still call this a “Mic’d acoustic.” Just onboard wireless mic instead of external.
Not bad at all, but in my experience some sort of pick up, magnetic or piezo, blended with a mic sounds better. Not better in purely sonic terms, but the unappealing tone of pick ups, and the possibility to process both sources separately, is crucial in order to get the right amount of presence, low end and microphonic natural tone. The wireless option is surely interesting,
Acoustic guitars aren't designed to be listened to from the inside, you can hear it's boxy and bassy as you'd expect. Might be a useable sound in some contexts but I don't imagine it's great in a whole band mix.
Great idea of Cloudvocal Isolo , sounds better than under saddled pickup no doubt but still can't replace a real phantom powered condenser mic
Hmmm, I love the idea of a condenser mic and wireless. Very intriguing. Great job with the demo and all of the explanation on how the set up works with different acoustics. I think I’m going to rewatch the video with my eyes closed and try to pick out the system versus the other set ups you had. Sweet!🎸🙌 (PS, nice work on classical gas)
Thanks Steve! I was really impressed with it, think I’ll use it at my next gig and see how it goes :)) 👍
Just bought k and k meridian condenser mic, body clamp, pro preamp and plastic case for 400$. The mic can be placed anywhere on the body outside guitar.🎉🎉🎉
Really cool device but I think I like the sound of the the microphone pointed directly at the sound hole. It sounds more natural to my ear
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Sounds amazing bit how about a feedback test whilst playing through a loud PA?
It has a feedback control on the unit and live I had no problems with it, thanks
Sounds good but why are you like 3 foot away from the blue mic? A condenser mic would smash an in-body condenser mic for recording purposes if set up properly
It does look like it doesn’t it from that angle but I was actually 24” away with the mic in front of the sound hole pointed at the 12th fret and the gain up on the preamp
First of all that mic sounds awful, second of all why do you have a jet plane sound happening every 2 seconds
How loud can you go before it feeds back? Could work well with an impulse response pedal.... You can get pretty darn good results with bridge plate conductor pickups too.... And a good acoustic amp.
Cost ??……… great review 👏👏
Thank you! You’d have to check their website for the latest price
Sounds good! Worth the $500 but I wouldn't buy it at that price. But if I started gigging more maybe I would because plugged up acoustic guitars never sound that great.
I’m thinking the same thing, perfect for gigging as piezos can sound muddy!
It certainly isn't better than a mic'd acoustic... If you can use it without feeding back... Because that's just sounds like an acoustic guitar
The position is fixed and I don’t like it. I like the ability to move around to aim at certain point on the guitar
I don’t know if it can be adjusted out but I noticed an obnoxious hissing noise throughout the Isolo samples. Maybe a gate would help but even when the guitar was sustaining, it was very noticeable and a deal breaker for me, in addition to the price point. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching! The RUclips compression algorithms plays havoc with sound examples, I didn’t notice it in the room, cheers for the comment and stay well!
Yeah . Sounds like he's playing in kind of can container with string attached
With live drums? Ultimate test
I thought upper part of guitar sounded most natural.
Sounds good. I like the mounting system and having effects built in to the receiver is neat, but any mic inside a guitar will scream past a certain volume in a live environment. Nice for adding a blend with your under-saddle pickup though. BTW, I'm one of the people that dislike piezo pickups! (They do provide a usable sound, if not a nice one.) Also I notice you went with pee-ay-zo, some people say pie-zo, some pee-et-zo, some pee-zo...I think we need an international standard for the pronunciation of this word! I'm never sure how to say it, ha!
Haha yeah I stuck with my pronunciation, I used it once live so far and there was no feedback, I kept the gain low and the master volume on the amp was my volume adjustment, could be a great idea to blend the two pickups actually. Good call and worth a try! Hope all is well in your world mate (saw your great new videos)
British people really like to shake the guitar neck as if it really does anything
I don’t know why, just feels right lol
Zip up blud or I'll merc you wot.
Why British people e
Well, it is a technique to do a vibrato or trem effect. Easier than bending the neck, and you can go fast or slow.
It really does something. Try it.
the trem effect in his mind must be insane
Very interesting. Sounds good. A small bit of high frequency spike but not bad. could be handled with EQ. this is the first I've seen of this unit. thank you for reviewing it. I will compare with others but this is very intriguing especially when I have three acoustic guitars I could switch this unit between. Side note: the transition sound you added to the video clips was a little annoying.
Thanks for the comment and also for the feedback on the editing, appreciate that and will take note! Cheers
No, it is not better than a properly miked acoustic guitar and it is certainly not better than using a Blue Baby Bottle mic, which is not the best mic to always use in live situations anyway. Yes, it sounds better than a typical, quacky, under-the-saddle piezo pickup, but that's not saying much. Also, on stage, a wireless system cannot always be trusted unless you are in a carefully controlled venue that has precautions against interference and drop-outs.
It won’t work on a mcpherson guitar.
I had to google that, and indeed it won’t!
great stuff! a few questions, did you gig with it a lot more with different amps, speakers and PA’s? have you ever experienced feedbacks? have you blended the pickups of your acoustic and the isolo mic? how did it sound? how durable is it? any pros and cons for this mic?
i only gigged through 1 amp and a PA system, didn't experience any feedback, i didn't blend the sound, just used the pickup and it's very durable, the only con is if you play single note solos then it does pickup the squeaks from the strings, no complaints other than that.
@@DerekPaulGuitar how bout chord changes squeaks?
@@fezzard very minimal, no worse than a piezo pickup in my experience
How many years will the onboard battery last?
Im not sure to be honest, these things normally last many many years though in my experience
How do you find it compared to something like Tonewood amp ?
Thanks for the comment, the tonewood am is something very different, it uses the resonance from the guitars wood, amplified this sounds more natural I’d say
Sorry but it sounds very poor to me , sounds tinny and with the effects it’s like an electric guitar instead of producing the natural acoustic sound👎 . You should try the Journeyman really good natural sound and it’s passive and it’s only 40 something pounds
Man it does sound superb
Thanks for watching!
@@DerekPaulGuitarI bought 400$ k and k meridian condenser mic on a body clamp to a pro preamp. Can place mic anywhere on body for better base and treble. The preamp is cool.
Sounds good. Nice video, thanks.
Thanks for the comment!
LR Baggs sounds way better
Can you get these in the UK?
None of these sounded particularly good and I could've very easily gotten better mic placement so its not a great comparison. Its like how do these bad pickups stack up against a badly mic'd acoustic? The answer is they all suck
I’d rather go for C414 too.
That is a really nice system.
Thanks for watching!
$300-$400?
But that's going to screw up the acoustic sound
The soundhole cover will but the point is that it will sound better through an amp
@@DerekPaulGuitar And how can you say that it's better than a mic when it IS a mic?
I said better that mic’d
@@DerekPaulGuitar But it IS mic'd, just from inside the sound hole instead of outside. And if you really think you can't get a better sound from a good external mic, you're delusional.
I think you’ll find the rest of the guitar playing community know what I meant when I said mic’d, I’m assuming you tried it to justify your comment?
Are there any of these videos where the guy or girl is NOT British?
And that's a problem, because. . .?
What kind of question is that?