Have to disagree that they tried to make it work with Kakko, they never gave him a true opportunity. Even when he was playing good and better than most of the team, he got less and less ice time and eventually got sat out all together. He never got PP time, nor a chance with the best players for extended amounts of time. Sure he probably isn't the player they thought when he got picked 2nd, but Rangers sure as hell never tried to make him that either.
As a Lightning fan, I'll be sad to see TJ retire. He was never the best guy on the ice, or even on his own line, but my god, the heart in that man was worth every dollar. We'll always have you in our hearts in Tampa, TJ!
1:29:00 I actually remember this! It was when Torts was still with CBJ and it was against the Canes (I’m a Canes fan and even I was upset at how the whole situation was) Sorry in advance for all the text, but this was all the events in order: -Canes score a goal -Torts challenges due to the goal deserving to be overturned -Refs confirm the goal, leading to the 2 minute power play for Carolina for delay of game due to the failed challenge by CBJ -Intermission hits right after all the previous events happen -Refs start the next period telling Torts that they made the wrong call and should’ve overturned the goal, but still kept it on the board and just took the 2 minute power play away from the Canes for the “failed” challenge -Torts loses his mind on the bench and in the postgame presser
I'm so happy things are working out for Laine in MTL. As a long term fan, I was worried the crowd might sour fast if he didn't hit the ground running, even though he went through so much in the last year.... But nah, he hit the ground sprinting. That shot.... Montreal fans haven't seen anything like it since.... I struggle to find a name. Patches was our last great shooter during his prime, but he was a quick release guy, he'd surprise the goalie. Laine is just powering it in with sheer force. Maybe it's just that being in the East, I've gotten used to shots like Ovie's and Matthews', never really spent much time watching Columbus or Winnipeg. Late to the party but glad to have gotten an invite!
@coadster9988 thats another fun part: hes still got a year left on his contract iirc. I know he hasnt been perfect and eventually the honeymoon phase ends, but the team jas a year and a half to see where he is at and if it makes sense to stay. Win win imo, we got the cap space for that time.
@@starkiller34 I like how you look at it. He’s not gonna score 40 in my opinion but just seeing what he can do is exciting to know we have more goal help
3 Horsemen of the Midpocalypse is one of the funniest things I've ever heard, but that feels more like the Sabres, Red Wings, and Senators, cuz those three teams have been mid and 'supposed to be making the jump' for how many years? Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Yzerman went 'Oh former TB guy from the cup runs?' and signed Tyler Johnson to push Marco Kasper back to the minors. I also have to offer a correction on the Detroit Philly game: That was the referee that put his arm up. It was 4-4 at the time of this incident. I think if Detroit scored on the rush down the ice it's more of a nothing incident, because Detroit wasn't the one with six players, and Ersson was in the net.
When has Steve ever said that 😂 that does not sound like him, they openly complain about the arena being quiet because of the suits/white collar workers
Leafs have been outshot more times than they've outshot their opponents this year and are first in the division. It's almost like shots on goal doesn't mean anything
@Hockeyman125689 And last year, they were outshooting opponents left, right and centre, and were still losing games they shouldn’t have. Now they’re winning games they shouldn’t be. I know which I prefer.
Because score effects. Leafs win most games, and are usually winning. While winning, teams typically shoot less and less to preserve the lead instead of maintaining their shooting rate
18:35 Been saying this for weeks now, if New York is looking for a power forward, why the hell aren’t they targeting Cozens? They need center depth, they can move Mika to the wing and be done with that or just send him to Buffalo who would have more than enough cap when trading Cozens to take him on. I just don’t see why they’re targeting guys like Tkachuk who are not on the market.
Although you’re right, the Habs need to have more than 30 shots on net to win. The ATTITUDE, from Adam especially, assures that I will relish in watching you guys melt down when the Leafs blow it in round 1 😘😂
The leafs always destroy the Stars (who are currently flu ridden riding their goalie for the 8th straight time tonight). That doesn’t excuse the insanity that is Joseph Woll and how he’s been playing. Leafs for the cup baby
I don’t get Steve’s hard on with the Flames. Tre didn’t exactly leave the Flames in/under the best of circumstances and as such ownership has added a Leafs tax. It sucks. But every team has one with other teams. ALL the trades talked about last season happened, just not with the Leafs. If MLSE really want a certain player off the Flames then there’s a Tre tax. Don’t go hating on the flames cause you didn’t get a player you wanted but didn’t want to pay for it.
With JT the major issue that exists is deployment. When JT is in the lineup he plays nonstop with Quinn Hughes (the real one that dictates games on the Nucks). Pettersson went from actually playing with Quinn for over half his ice time 5 on 5 to just a couple minutes at most. People can argue you should be able to produce on your own, but I would welcome people who argue that to look at Makars numbers away from Mackinnon (its really really really bad xD, guy is a massive net negative in actual and expected goals for and against if Mackinnon isnt out there with him). I honestly dont think they have to make a move or if it matters at all. Petey is playing a great 200 ft game right now and Miller is an important emotional leader (but hasnt found his game just yet, and totally let up on the game losing goal against Utah).
Imagine how fired up Carrier was. He gets to spend the holiday in his home town and then stay there and be a Hab. He was probably doing backflips when he got the call.
kakko was given opportunities by lavi. he got to play on every line, with kreider and mika last season on the top line, and it never worked out. he never earned more opportunities beyond that. i don't agree with him being scapegoated but he never fit anywhere substantially on this team so him getting a fresh start and the rangers finally parting ways with him is a great solution.
I disagree that everything that happened after Lindy left is on him. Pegula, absolutely because everything stops at his doorstep, from hiring Krueger to meddling way too much, it’s on him.
I get what Adam means but cmon... we can't be outraged week after week when the refs mess up and are ignorant to it... and then be upset when they stop everything and make the correct choice after one of them messed up
Kraken fan who loves Tye Kartye. He's great, and his ability to get under of the skin of players way better than him is beautiful. He's got that undrafted magic!
Wishing Erica Howe and Dylan Foster the best. My mom was diagnosed with stage four cancer on 9/11/2001. She was given a 5-10% chance to live. She’s now over 70 years old and she’s more than 20 years cancer-free. I hope Dylan and Erica get to live lives as long and healthy as my mom’s. ❤️🩹
Nashville should trade nyquist and schenn to the Sabres in a deal for cozens or (spicy take) Thompson. Use picks/prospects to make it work. Preds could go on a RUN with a lineup like that.
I get what Steve is saying about betting against the Sens, but seems a bit unfair to say they won’t stay this hot forever while ignoring how hot a bunch of the other teams around them have been. Yes, Ullmark is going to come back to earth and the Sens will lose games, but that also goes for Pittsburgh, Tampa and Boston. All 3 of those teams have been around a similar pace as Ottawa lately and that’s why their hot stretch doesn’t look as impressive.
Can we get a segment on the oilers? They have been hot, skinner 945 sv pct in 5 games, hyman 8 goals in how many games? And has a broken nose ,8-2-0 last 10, draisaitl 900 pts, 1st in goals and 2nd now in points. If he wins the rocket and art ross does he deserve the hart? comeback against Boston. Loads to talk about other than mcdavid and then of course mcdavid lol. Only 7 points away from first.
Tisk tisk Mister Stove Dongle. First, he should know about the lund line as a Sharks truther which features Granlund, Zetterlund, and Eklund. Second, Granlund is Finnish.
The thing with high-level athletes is that they have to work hard to get where they are everyone's focus and hard work look different. Some of my mates are super chatty when they are focused, and some become quiet and more aggressive. I don't like all of my teammates, but that's normal. You gotta play nice it's your job. That is what I think is happening with the cannucks.
The Rangers are one of those teams that have had top 10 picks but failed on most of them. In the last 15 years theyve had just one top 15 pick that became a regular roster player for the Rangers. Kakko and Kravtsov and Andersson are all top 10 picks that didnt work out in the last few years... and Lafreniere is fairly weak for a first overall pick himself. Hes not a BUST like Yakupov etc but hes nowhere near a first overall at this point. Hes probably around the 5th best player in his own draft thusfar. Theyve made some great moves and had some great players from later rounds but man they dont do well early.
I agree with Adam on the review point. The referees NEVER overturn a penalty or call the way they did with the Philly non-penalty. Why can they not do what they did on that play... every other play? It's not too much to ask for the refs to get the call right, IT IS LATERALLY THEIR JOB
Oh no. The rebuilding Habs are losing, not getting enough shots. Habs fans need to calm the eff down and accept its going to take awhile before their good again. Montreal wont be drafting any generational superstar that will propel their rebuild forward multiple years so don't even talk about playoffs until year 5.
Literally all it takes is the lottery balls falling the right way. Like is it likely? No, but is it impossible? Absolutely not. Like if they get lucky enough to get McKenna it completely changes the direction in a flash. This year isnt amazing, sure, but the next 2 years have prospects destroying records.
Boys !!! Love your show and I am Habs fan and Jesse let the « numbers « do the talking! But Don’t put all Habs fans in the same Basket Happy holidays to the three of you 👍 by the way 1967 😂
Both G.M.s all but ran it back. So between the two of them, the playoffs are not likely if things carry on the way the are. And they deserve what they get. And I'm a diehard Rangers fan ! 😮🏒🍸🎄☃️
Have to disagree that they tried to make it work with Kakko, they never gave him a true opportunity. Even when he was playing good and better than most of the team, he got less and less ice time and eventually got sat out all together. He never got PP time, nor a chance with the best players for extended amounts of time. Sure he probably isn't the player they thought when he got picked 2nd, but Rangers sure as hell never tried to make him that either.
playing well* Not playing "good." That's bad English.
@@JaneNayes I dont know what we would do without that comment
As a Lightning fan, I'll be sad to see TJ retire. He was never the best guy on the ice, or even on his own line, but my god, the heart in that man was worth every dollar. We'll always have you in our hearts in Tampa, TJ!
Steve, there weren't two Justin's. You're thinking about Jordan Harris. Traded FOR: Laine AND a second round pick.
i’m happy for sens fans i love a good battle of ontario rivalries make the league better
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the SDPN team! Thanks for all you do. We need to hear more from Mad Dog in 2025!
1:29:00 I actually remember this! It was when Torts was still with CBJ and it was against the Canes (I’m a Canes fan and even I was upset at how the whole situation was)
Sorry in advance for all the text, but this was all the events in order:
-Canes score a goal
-Torts challenges due to the goal deserving to be overturned
-Refs confirm the goal, leading to the 2 minute power play for Carolina for delay of game due to the failed challenge by CBJ
-Intermission hits right after all the previous events happen
-Refs start the next period telling Torts that they made the wrong call and should’ve overturned the goal, but still kept it on the board and just took the 2 minute power play away from the Canes for the “failed” challenge
-Torts loses his mind on the bench and in the postgame presser
Matheson and David Savard have basically carry...Carrier the whole defense.
-Adam Wylde, reaching deep into his bag
Lane Midson sucks, he gets dog walked too much to be truly effective. He's like Nick Robertson.
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 I don’t think Hutson a goal scoring forward
@@coadster9988 Robertson is a defenseman don't you remember?
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953Will be better dman in 3 years, than what leafs have
Sharks outpacing Nash... Askarov looking in his rearview mirror like Yeah I Dodged That lmao
The Mike Hoffman situation in Ottawa was one of the biggest off-ice reasons that a player was traded that I can recall
Ubergate
i love when jesse and adam get into it
I'm so happy things are working out for Laine in MTL. As a long term fan, I was worried the crowd might sour fast if he didn't hit the ground running, even though he went through so much in the last year.... But nah, he hit the ground sprinting. That shot.... Montreal fans haven't seen anything like it since.... I struggle to find a name. Patches was our last great shooter during his prime, but he was a quick release guy, he'd surprise the goalie. Laine is just powering it in with sheer force. Maybe it's just that being in the East, I've gotten used to shots like Ovie's and Matthews', never really spent much time watching Columbus or Winnipeg. Late to the party but glad to have gotten an invite!
Laine can stay on this team for as long as he wants
@coadster9988 thats another fun part: hes still got a year left on his contract iirc. I know he hasnt been perfect and eventually the honeymoon phase ends, but the team jas a year and a half to see where he is at and if it makes sense to stay. Win win imo, we got the cap space for that time.
@@starkiller34 I like how you look at it. He’s not gonna score 40 in my opinion but just seeing what he can do is exciting to know we have more goal help
Thank you guys for speaking about the Habs shots per game curse… 33 tonight against Detroit.
3 Horsemen of the Midpocalypse is one of the funniest things I've ever heard, but that feels more like the Sabres, Red Wings, and Senators, cuz those three teams have been mid and 'supposed to be making the jump' for how many years?
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Yzerman went 'Oh former TB guy from the cup runs?' and signed Tyler Johnson to push Marco Kasper back to the minors.
I also have to offer a correction on the Detroit Philly game: That was the referee that put his arm up. It was 4-4 at the time of this incident. I think if Detroit scored on the rush down the ice it's more of a nothing incident, because Detroit wasn't the one with six players, and Ersson was in the net.
Are you planning on covering or getting any information for the PWHL On your Podcast.They deserve to be promoted as much as possible
I think you found you calling
Steve saying habs fans are coping.
Coming from the guy who says the leafs arena is quiet because the fans are studying the game
When has Steve ever said that 😂 that does not sound like him, they openly complain about the arena being quiet because of the suits/white collar workers
@hermeticGreen he said it in an episode last year. I listened to it with a friend a we both could not believe it
Pretty sure the audience would’ve liked to know what some of those supposed trade packages were for Kakko last year… but whatever
Mikael Granlund is Finnish
They always make this misstake, he has sa swedish namen. But he. is on the finish team
Wahoo early friday ep. 😊 but im babysitting and the kid seems to like it when jesse speaks lol
JORDAN HARRIS, JUSTIN BARRON!
Jordan harris was the one in the patrik laine trade
Leafs have been outshot more times than they've outshot their opponents this year and are first in the division. It's almost like shots on goal doesn't mean anything
This might shock you, but you need to shoot to score more😮 and the leafs have had incredible goaltending that has made them win close games.
Like sure yea. But its concerning for mtl right now bc theyre not winning. To win you need to score. To score you should probably shoot more.
@Hockeyman125689 And last year, they were outshooting opponents left, right and centre, and were still losing games they shouldn’t have. Now they’re winning games they shouldn’t be. I know which I prefer.
Because score effects. Leafs win most games, and are usually winning. While winning, teams typically shoot less and less to preserve the lead instead of maintaining their shooting rate
18:35 Been saying this for weeks now, if New York is looking for a power forward, why the hell aren’t they targeting Cozens? They need center depth, they can move Mika to the wing and be done with that or just send him to Buffalo who would have more than enough cap when trading Cozens to take him on. I just don’t see why they’re targeting guys like Tkachuk who are not on the market.
🤣”the BON JOVI RUN” 😆
@25:10 Did Adam call Steve a JT? Jive Turkey? Lol 😂
Cant wait for the leafs to get 3 goals in 2 mins tonight
Big surprise Steve doesn’t know the name of the player that was traded for Laine. Maybe that’s why he didn’t want to make the video
Wow didn’t realize you are supposed to know everything in hockey about all 32 teams
@@matthewsimonds3346To be fair that’s kind of Steve’s thing.
It feels like a Maddy production!
How many coffees did Steve smash before shooting that episode???😂
Although you’re right, the Habs need to have more than 30 shots on net to win. The ATTITUDE, from Adam especially, assures that I will relish in watching you guys melt down when the Leafs blow it in round 1 😘😂
Video just got posted. You’re actually their biggest fan buddy
@ I love the SDP crew. Great show, seem like great guys. But I’ll always be a Habs fan first
@@erikarsenault7135yup love these guys but I like the habs more
@@erikarsenault7135but habs are poo poo diaper
Adam's attitude can't hurt you.
4 Refs, 3 on the ice, one off ice, constantly reviewing video.
Hey I'm bosmike 😂🎉🎉 thanks for the shout out and please don't name players who are facing my fantasy goalies their next game 😂
Losing a second overall pick is spilled milk?😂😂😂
For Steve’s sake the game he’s talking about with Torts was Columbus Canes I remember it in a Dangits video.
The leafs always destroy the Stars (who are currently flu ridden riding their goalie for the 8th straight time tonight). That doesn’t excuse the insanity that is Joseph Woll and how he’s been playing. Leafs for the cup baby
Am i the only one who got fed up with jesse calling "borgen" borgren?
Hes not jonatan berggren, hes will borgen
Get that Legalzoom bag, SDP!!!!
This show rocks.
Absolutely does! Never disappoints!! Happy Holidays 😊
@paolabelan8211 Thanks Paola. It's great being a Canadian.
Wait what was the Lindholm trade that didn't happen? Never heard about this.
I don’t get Steve’s hard on with the Flames. Tre didn’t exactly leave the Flames in/under the best of circumstances and as such ownership has added a Leafs tax. It sucks. But every team has one with other teams. ALL the trades talked about last season happened, just not with the Leafs. If MLSE really want a certain player off the Flames then there’s a Tre tax. Don’t go hating on the flames cause you didn’t get a player you wanted but didn’t want to pay for it.
With JT the major issue that exists is deployment. When JT is in the lineup he plays nonstop with Quinn Hughes (the real one that dictates games on the Nucks). Pettersson went from actually playing with Quinn for over half his ice time 5 on 5 to just a couple minutes at most. People can argue you should be able to produce on your own, but I would welcome people who argue that to look at Makars numbers away from Mackinnon (its really really really bad xD, guy is a massive net negative in actual and expected goals for and against if Mackinnon isnt out there with him). I honestly dont think they have to make a move or if it matters at all. Petey is playing a great 200 ft game right now and Miller is an important emotional leader (but hasnt found his game just yet, and totally let up on the game losing goal against Utah).
Imagine how fired up Carrier was. He gets to spend the holiday in his home town and then stay there and be a Hab. He was probably doing backflips when he got the call.
Yes us habs fans can take a joke or a chirp
some can
This habs fan loves you guys 😘 keep up the good work!
They all end with “lund”😂😂😂😂😂
Missed episode name: Kappo Kraken-en
That is super pushed, Kraken-en sounds nothing like kakko
@slipperynodd578 you're right. I was thinking of a different last name
kakko was given opportunities by lavi. he got to play on every line, with kreider and mika last season on the top line, and it never worked out. he never earned more opportunities beyond that. i don't agree with him being scapegoated but he never fit anywhere substantially on this team so him getting a fresh start and the rangers finally parting ways with him is a great solution.
I disagree that everything that happened after Lindy left is on him. Pegula, absolutely because everything stops at his doorstep, from hiring Krueger to meddling way too much, it’s on him.
1:26:43 if it was a linesman it wasnt a penalty since linesman dont call penalties. His arm must have went up for another reason
I get what Adam means but cmon... we can't be outraged week after week when the refs mess up and are ignorant to it... and then be upset when they stop everything and make the correct choice after one of them messed up
38:46 Simple to BOO THE LEAFS. Sabres fans HATE Leafs fans because of this so anytime they can go and boo the Leafs they will.
1:32:02 how I feel at the end of this, too
Kraken fan who loves Tye Kartye. He's great, and his ability to get under of the skin of players way better than him is beautiful. He's got that undrafted magic!
Wishing Erica Howe and Dylan Foster the best. My mom was diagnosed with stage four cancer on 9/11/2001. She was given a 5-10% chance to live. She’s now over 70 years old and she’s more than 20 years cancer-free. I hope Dylan and Erica get to live lives as long and healthy as my mom’s. ❤️🩹
Idc, I agree with Adam on that Flyers thing. Go off!
Adam has had the most cantankerous takes this month and I’m here for it
Nashville should trade nyquist and schenn to the Sabres in a deal for cozens or (spicy take) Thompson. Use picks/prospects to make it work. Preds could go on a RUN with a lineup like that.
I get what Steve is saying about betting against the Sens, but seems a bit unfair to say they won’t stay this hot forever while ignoring how hot a bunch of the other teams around them have been.
Yes, Ullmark is going to come back to earth and the Sens will lose games, but that also goes for Pittsburgh, Tampa and Boston. All 3 of those teams have been around a similar pace as Ottawa lately and that’s why their hot stretch doesn’t look as impressive.
Can we get a segment on the oilers? They have been hot, skinner 945 sv pct in 5 games, hyman 8 goals in how many games? And has a broken nose ,8-2-0 last 10, draisaitl 900 pts, 1st in goals and 2nd now in points. If he wins the rocket and art ross does he deserve the hart? comeback against Boston.
Loads to talk about other than mcdavid and then of course mcdavid lol. Only 7 points away from first.
Watching Borgen tonight against Dallas, he was decent
Tisk tisk Mister Stove Dongle. First, he should know about the lund line as a Sharks truther which features Granlund, Zetterlund, and Eklund. Second, Granlund is Finnish.
What happened to poop gate?
The thing with high-level athletes is that they have to work hard to get where they are everyone's focus and hard work look different. Some of my mates are super chatty when they are focused, and some become quiet and more aggressive. I don't like all of my teammates, but that's normal. You gotta play nice it's your job. That is what I think is happening with the cannucks.
Love to see it
Justin Harris 😂
Saying the Canadiens suck isn't being mean, we actually suck and the standings prove it. Also, McDavid is going to either Tampa or Florida lmao
I do not understand why adam is such a dick towards bottom teams. Even tho if you look at playoff success, leafs is one of them
The Rangers are one of those teams that have had top 10 picks but failed on most of them. In the last 15 years theyve had just one top 15 pick that became a regular roster player for the Rangers. Kakko and Kravtsov and Andersson are all top 10 picks that didnt work out in the last few years... and Lafreniere is fairly weak for a first overall pick himself. Hes not a BUST like Yakupov etc but hes nowhere near a first overall at this point. Hes probably around the 5th best player in his own draft thusfar. Theyve made some great moves and had some great players from later rounds but man they dont do well early.
Granlund is Finnish!
It is a winless streak! They had no wins Jesse! It is not a pointless streak, you see ah da difference der sir
A 2 week brake whyyy?? :(
Yay! Early in a Friday!
Steve is a terrible friend. Adam looked like he had just served in Vietnam after plunging that toilet.
1:14:07 fart
You never know Jesper Bratt was a 6th round pick. But hopefully not, f the rags
GRIPPER NATION
Vancouver is too talented to be this bad it's so frustrating
I agree with Adam on the review point. The referees NEVER overturn a penalty or call the way they did with the Philly non-penalty.
Why can they not do what they did on that play... every other play? It's not too much to ask for the refs to get the call right, IT IS LATERALLY THEIR JOB
Coach Chippy did a vid on the Leafs “quality shots” the other day.
the old get one comment saying something and pretend its some prevailing thought because it's easy to dunk on
No mention of the Sens is criminal. We here baby. GSG.
Did Steve just say Mikael Granlund is Swedish? EXCUSE ME, PERKELE, HE IS FINNISH. 😆
Jordan Harris, but don't let facts get in the way of your crappy jokes.
There’s no crying in the comment section sir.
(On the canadiens) I guess they listened to this before the game tonight, because they got 33 tonight, and won! :)
have to turn it off, cant stand listening to adam lie about my team, he is so clueless
He's right about the Pens. They blow goats
really sucks that both jt and petterson cant get along i love both players i hope they can work it out :/
why did kaako deserve more of an opportunity with new york?
Leafs out in the first so who cares anyway
SKRRT
Laine will get mlre goals than Matthews at half the price so SDPN hates on him.
Booooom
Oh no. The rebuilding Habs are losing, not getting enough shots. Habs fans need to calm the eff down and accept its going to take awhile before their good again. Montreal wont be drafting any generational superstar that will propel their rebuild forward multiple years so don't even talk about playoffs until year 5.
Literally all it takes is the lottery balls falling the right way. Like is it likely? No, but is it impossible? Absolutely not. Like if they get lucky enough to get McKenna it completely changes the direction in a flash.
This year isnt amazing, sure, but the next 2 years have prospects destroying records.
First
Boys !!! Love your show and I am Habs fan and Jesse let the « numbers « do the talking! But Don’t put all Habs fans in the same Basket Happy holidays to the three of you 👍 by the way 1967 😂
Both G.M.s all but ran it back. So between the two of them, the playoffs are not likely if things carry on the way the are. And they deserve what they get. And I'm a diehard Rangers fan ! 😮🏒🍸🎄☃️