Back in the Seventies in the UK we had vans that had 2 front sliding doors. I have a feeling that drivers were getting killed from stepping out without looking properly. Having an opening door means you HAVE to look. Passenger side opens to the kerb, so less likely to be hit by a passing car.
Just a little note. The reason why wireless is slower than wired is because it is inefficient. A portion of the electricity is lost during the charging process and becomes heat. Which is why your phone gets hot during wireless charging. Its the issue with the technology itself and i believe there is yet to be a solution
Apple's Magsafe is pretty good I heard. Magnets keep the charged firmly attached decreasing resistance and reducing heat. Nothing will ever beat an actual wired connection though.
@@RodknockRhett For inductive charging, the process is inefficient due to the amount of energy needed to maintain the magnetic field, It is also not smoothly variable in the output power, thus when a device is fully charged and the inductive charger is just covering the idle power use, it will generate more heat since the excess energy is basically wasted as heat in the inductive coil that is typically sandwiched between the back cover and the battery. With that in mind, lever let a device just sit on an inductive charger while fully charged, you are basically just cooking your battery at that point. While it is not a high amount of heat, it is still enough to degrade the battery more quickly over time. Most general inductive chargers have a 5 watt and 10 watt model, both being a slow charge, as at best you are getting the charge performance of old devices before quick charge technology came out. Most phones will charge at 18 watts over USB, and some will offer a more rapid charge of upwards of 40 watts, though those devices typically run into battery life issues within 1-1.5 years where you will find yourself recharging the battery multiple times per day. PS, the inductive pads in some vehicles can be toggled on or off, this is needed because you don't want to place a non-inductive charging phone on an inductive charger, since they are likely to lack any protection for the inductive field being directed at various components and PCB traces, or worse, if a device has no inductive charging, while having a large NFC coil. If it is a designated phone holder, then chances are that it may have some kind of setting to turn the inductive charger on or off. There are also inductive chargers that can output much more than 10 watts, but those typically use proprietary signaling since those outputs are not part of the qi standard, and they need active cooling.
@@RodknockRhett The key to magsafe is it aligns the two coils perfectly every time. If coils are not aligned you may get charging to start, but inefficiently. Having them in exact alignment makes a huge difference, which is why magsafe was created. I have an induction charger that's a cheap aftermarket design for my SUV and it started intermittently not charging. I opened it up and found the wire coil was falling off, they used hot glue to fasten it. I replaced the glue with 3M adhesive tape and the problem was fixed, so how close the coils are to each other, and their alignment, are important. There is no resistance to increase or decrease, because it's proximity that causes the induction to work. The closer the two coils are, the stronger the field becomes.
@@CitEnthusiast that increase in distance or being misaligned IS causing an increase in resistance. All resistance is, is how much can flow through a circuit at a time. Same thing will happen if your car's chassis grounds start to rust. The increase in resistance will destroy the ability for the electrical system to have enough current. That's when weird things happen. All wireless charging is, is a large, very large circuit through induction. If there's any extra distance, you'll have a higher resistance. Higher resistance = less flow. Another example: Speakers have their resistance to flow as well. Less resistance will cause the amplifier to flow more current actually making it put out more power. A circuit with zero resistance is a short... This will on an unprotected circuit cause damage. I highly doubt there is ZERO resistance with wireless charging. As the only way you'll have that, is a direct connection from positive to negative. I will also garrantee you that Apple has a good setup going on to regulate this due to the amount of variables going on here. Either way, my point still stands. Absolutely nothing beats a wired connection. Everything is stable for the most part (unless there's corrosion or the connection is loose) and that will deliver the most efficient charge. Magsafe sounds like a great idea and all. And it's certainly an improvement over not having anything holding the charger on... But it definitely isn't going to replace a wired connection for awhile.
All energy transfers create heat as a byproduct, that’s what’s limiting humanity’s technological advancement. Thats the next technological hurdle we as humans need to overcome
I said exactly the same thing about the door when I got trained for these. My first day in it was kind of tricky at first, but then after the second hour I was good. Love the fact that I can jump on the touch screen without having to open the menu like we do when holding the rabbit, that’s a A++ from me, major game changer.
Biggest benefit for the EDV's in my opinion. More often than not my first and last stops are on the same road. Amazon isn't going to play me that way while in an EDV....
@@zachlevinson2402 Yes, youre able to 'jump' from one stop to another that better serves you or makes more sense. The tricky part is making sure that that next stop has the package in the tote youre working on. A lot of the times Amazon does thos stupid stops is because they dont want you "crossing" a busy street or the package is part of the next tote in line. Thats why i would take 5-10min before heading out to load to go over my entire route. If something doesnt make sense i would write down the number of the stop and the tote with the package just so i know where to look. It takes some getting used to, but after a couple of times youll get the hang of it. Hope this helps, good luck!
@@TheCardGuyHW it does. I drove for FedEx and we have iPads with an app called ground cloud. It was sooo helpful. It was also helpful that each package was preloaded and had what’s called a “SID” sticker. That helped me move a lot faster. I wish Amazon did something like that
good video. very good points made. i feel like they dont intend you to even use the driver door, like they want you to exit on the right, likely safer. That roof fan needs to be 1 large fan and not 2-4 smaller ones at 10,000 rpms lol
That's exactly what they want. It was in their unveiling video. They want you to get in the van thru the driver side and that should be the only time that door is opened.
All of these seem like easy fixes for Rivian. Your feedback is said very nicely and manufacturers design things the best they can but sometimes the "flaws" don't show up until the vehicle is in doing it's normal day to day job in a real word environment. Hopefully Rivian will listen and fix these issues.
Nice! Having to deliver so many packages in a day is tough. You can deliver the packages on the door step however, here in The Netherlands that is not allowed. Delivery has to be in person, and if noone is home, you have to take the package back with you. That takes lots of time, and we also have to deliver 150-200 packages each day.... Having one-pedal drive is awesome though, that is so relaxing. It indeed takes some practice, but it is really good.
Jow delivery straight up sucks sometimes here. Especially when you don't have control over the delivery date. It's such a mess and these days I only see stressed delivery guys at my door. (and yes I'm part of the problem by ordering online, you can't find everything locally) Sometimes neighbors aren't at home to take the package. Sometimes they hide the package around the backdoor. They take the package back and try it a different time or they bring it to a pickup point that is only open during work hours. It's gotten so bad recently that I got a letter in the mail saying that they missed me and I have to come pick it up. (I was literally there at home!)
No matter how small some of those things might sound/look, they all reduce productivity so improving the van would boost productivity = more packages delivered in the same time period = more cash for everyone, if you had to extrapolate how much time would you say is "wasted" or if you had natural lighting, driver sliding door, physical button for cargo area... how many more packages do you think you could handle in a shift? Ask fellow drivers and present your findings with an estimated productivity assessment to your boss, they might listen and could even bring a bonus your way!
bruh we are talking about amazon here, even if they fixed these things for some reason they'd never follow it back and credit him, they are a muti-billion dollar company and really could care less.
@@brq44 It’s all in how you treat the battery. Can’t over stress it. I’m hoping to get at least 750k miles from the car. Doesn’t charge as fast (up to 120kw) as the new cars (150-200kw) but I do average over a trip of 53-55 mph instead of 65-70 in a ICE. 20% slower but virtually no maintenance. Thanks for asking.
So fun to watch you on the rounds and awesome feedback. I hope the Rivian folk pay attention. Thank you to folks like you for getting the rest of us our goodies!
Thanks for shooting this video. It's getting me ready incase I get the Amazon delivery job. I'm a doordasher and and I use to deliver furniture so Im ready for this new experience. You did a great job on this video. Keep up the good work homie.
I drive these vehicles everyday since i work for Rivian. I agree the fan in back is terrible and more lighting would be a cheap fix. The seat belt strap needs to be stronger but the seat belt can't be moved outward. Your not suppose to use the drivers door to deliver and a button on the rear door would make it real easy to steal from. There are to two cup holders on the left, two trays in the center and a large space behind the seat, put your cooler in the back!!!!!! The regenerative braking is weird at first but i never even use the brakes flying around the yard at 50mph in the R1S or R1T!!! Amazon asked for some of the things you don't like.
The driver door should still be a slide. I know many deliveries are curbside, but if you have to dock, having a sliding door makes it convenient for a driver should he/she have to exit driverside. I bet Rivian Engineers could connect the keyfob or some other method to the cargo door or come up with a way to allow drivers to open the cargo door while at the same time having it secure from bandits. The cupholders look too far forward for short drivers which now is a driving risk of accident should they reach to grab or place their drinks. I hear you on the cooler but again there's plenty of space forward to have a cooler or pocket for glasses, phones, etc drivers use in the cab.
I wonder what exactly you do at Rivian? Seat belts can be moved. More storage for the drivers is not only simple but logical. Better ventilation in the back is needed. and The sliding door button can be linked to the fob for security. The van is a good concept but it can be improved, that's all.
IMO, letting the gas pedal off is really means that you don't want to accelerate anymore, and not that you want to start breaking. Slightest touch of the break pedal would be a better place for the regenerative breaking, and pushing pedal further would engage the mechanical breaks.
In a gas car the gas pedal means you’re giving the engine gas. In an electric car the pedal means your giving the motors electricity. When the electric motors don’t have electricity they’ll create resistance slowing the car.
@@lukesmebythe motors can freespin though, it's not like a car engine where having it connected and not powered creates massive drag you can use to slow your car down
Excellent detailed, genuinely-honest, and real-world user feedback. Mad props my dude, your are doing a service for all Junngle_tm drivers, and beyond. Bravo!
Yo chris I’ve been working as an Amazon driver for 2 months and they already got me on the edv! Your videos convinced me to try it out and so far it’s been good. Greetings from DEW5 🔥
Thanks for everything you do! I actually became a Amazon driver after watching your videos and finding that it could be a great job for me. I drive for a DSP that doesn’t have the Rivian EVs but hopefully we get some in the future.
Agreed with pretty much all of these ! That driver door is insanely heavy! I hate going out that stupid door lol. I got caught leaving it open because it’s so heavy. I too mostly go around every time. That seatbelt sucks being soooo far back & that strap is very touchy lol. The cargo fan as you said is very dumb, useless & loud for no reason! I hate it lol. The cargo door button is also very annoying. I come back in & miss it all the time ! Translucent tops w/ the cargo area would make a huge difference with my sunglasses lol, you hit everything right on the nose! Those little things would make delivery life a little easier.
The reason the driver door is so large is because the delivery vans are designed for left and right drive markets. It's cheaper to make the two doors easily swappable depending on the market it's being sold in.
Rivian needs to hire this young man to do full walk-thrus of their vehicles. He gave GREAT feedback to make the equipment updates needed to make the drivers days safe and easier -- Good job @chirsSing !!!!
Around 2:30 This explains why my doggos will sniff my Amazon-delivered packages. I'd always thought this was the reason but now I have confirmation. Nice video.
Just drove the EDV for the first time yesterday, I figured it would slow me down due to having to get used to it, but I was pleasantly surprised, that van was awesome!
I used to work where these Vans are made in Normal, IL. It was kinda surreal walking the line every day going to and from my station, and seeing the amount RPVs (thats what they refer to the vans in house as) on the line.
Definitely some growing pains. Good feedback so they can focus on it. Sometimes you dont really know what you can do better until you build something and people give feedback on what they like and don't like.
Hey man, thanks for what you do. You people make the 1st world turn. I respect how much you put up with and do and I wish you the best and all the $ !!!
I just finished my route of 32 packages, 31 stops as an XL driver took me the whole 10 hours across the state of florida, I see your pkg count and I'm like God I don't miss doing 200+ stops 😅
@@joedaniel7228 Amazon has different divisions for drivers: There's the most commonly known AMZL that deals with 300+ small packages and stops. AMXL deals with only large and or heavy packages that AMZL cant haul. We get fewer stops but we travel much farther to get to those stops. Different cities across country roads to give an idea. Our vehicles are generally bigger and more fit for long distance trips too. Freight I believe is the same as AMXL but with bigger hauls that XL can't hold for legal reasons and the requirement of a CDL license. I think there's 2 more divisions but I believe they're similar to AMZL
you have inspired me to look into delivery work im going to attempt driving for my local PS doing rule routs for now, and go from their, thank you for sharing your experience
#1 Great content. Keep it up. #2 Seatbelts do stink on the EDV's. Try taking the seatbelt and wrapping it around the steering wheel. Easy access and a big game changer with speed. #3 The wireless charger does work but it has to be spot on. Pesonally I've never placed my peronsal device on that shelf as I'm afraid of it falling out. I almost always have the passenger door open. #4 Agreed with the storage compartments. #5 Out of curiousity, what are you looking for addresses and not driver aid # Again, love your content and you're super helpful for up and coming drivers. Well produced!
I JUST started using addresses instead of driver aid numbers & I agree, easier on the mind. Something about having all my packages on their separate streets separated make it go by quicker in my brain lol 😅😂
Looking for adddress is better than driver aid number imo, there are times where I have packages NOT on my itinerary but still part of my route (fuck warehouse workers). If im looking for only drivers aid numbers then Ill miss those mis sorted packages and have to re deliver them, but if im looking at the address, then I can deliver my missorts in 1 go
341 packages?! That’s insane lol my dsp usually gives out 300 max, regular is anywhere from 250-300 and even at that we get rescued early morning for half the route or just 80 packages!
Having watched a few of your videos it still amazes me that you are allowed to drop the parcel(s) at the door, walk back and forward to/from the van, have time to stop for something to eat. Having done this job in the UK for the past 6 months, the routes got heavier and heavier, (rarely got swept or "rescued"), to the point I was literally running from the van, never had time to eat and on quite a few occasions I didn't even have time to stop for a pee.... all for around £9 per hour, (current minimum wage is around £10.46), if you weren't fast enough..... In my experience, the faster you were, the more you were punished with more stops, drops and parcels
I feel you on missing actual physical buttons, I work in a mill, the old control room we had was all old mechanical switches and toggle buttons. It was so nice to push a button and hear it activate a relay and actually get some form of auditory feedback. The new control system is all on a computer, point and click a prompt on a computer display. I’ve clicked the wrong thing so many times and it’s frustrating. Physical buttons are a necessity for actual work. Probably why I won’t ever sell my F-150, infotainment is all physical buttons.
Man I love watching all your videos. Pure entertaining. Im thinking about going back to driving a step van. This warehouse work at amazon isnt it. They pay for my school though.
I agree with what you said. The fan sounds like server fans which are generally only 40-80mm tall/wide. That's quite ridiculous they just didn't have larger fans that would turn slower since they would move a larger amount of air (CFM) The translucent top would make sense too because you can turn the light off during the day in the back reducing the need for electricity. Seems like there was A LOT of wasted space up front where they have have compartments. BTW, is there a compartment behind the driver seat that might have the paperwork of the van and such? It should be required by management that drivers know where the paper work is!
I don’t think that’s a fair assessment. There’s a lot that went into this for a first generation van. The door opens when you park, it has AC in the cabin, it’s quiet and smooth, the navigation built in has the delivery route. They can’t get it perfect the first go, but they did better than all the others out there
Great video, thanks for your hard work out there. Just as a tip, even if the wireless charger did work, I wouldn't recommend using it. Lots of issues with wireless chargers in cars getting way too hot and damaging phones. In my personal EV, I just disabled the wireless charging feature and just use the space as a phone rest. If I'm going to be in my car all day, I just bring a battery bank - for your use case you could command strip a bank into place near that little compartment to charge the phone or maybe you can tie it to something so you don't have to repeatedly buy command strips. Or you could get a battery case for your phone that you use during work days and just switch to a regular, slimmer case when you don't need the juice. Obviously not ideal though that you have to buy things to solve problems that Rivian could fix themselves in a refresh (the lack of storage is a particularly egregious oversight). Also, you may be able to disable the one pedal driving, not sure how much freedom you have to alter the settings in these trucks. I've also disabled this in my car because I don't like it. I have a Polestar, but I press the button that looks like a car and the setting is called one pedal driving. I also enable "creep", which simulates the way a traditional car will slowly creep forward or in reverse if you take your foot off the brake. Personal preference, but this is a more natural driving experience for me.
Chris: I know the driver side door is heavy, but it is probably for safety to protect you from a side crash. The lack of AC in the cabin is likely by design to minimize energy use. Battery capacity is limited. It is for moving the car, not to keep the packages cool.
i'm a delivery driver here in Holland not for amazon, But other ones called Trunkrs and PACKS and ofcourse DHL i did for a long time with DPD aswell. But you have nice views and you see alot around you like the racoons rats stuff like that. We here in Amsterdam have only boring houses nothing much to see. I would love the job there in USA to explore and see new things.
5:27 Regenerative Braking (aka One-Pedal Driving) is the best, but I can see why it bother people. Most are used Accel / Brake. But OPD saves the brakes, and is really good for delivery businesses where there's a lot of stop / go. Personally, i love it for my EV, it feels more natural after a while, imo
Loved the video! They have talked about getting electric vehicles for so long that its nice to finally see what the Rivians look like and the quirks of them.
Here are 5 key takeaways from the video: 1. The Rivian delivery van has some minor inconveniences like the seatbelt being positioned far back and the regenerative braking taking some getting used to. 2. The wireless phone charger doesn't seem to work well, with wired charging being faster and better. 3. The cargo fan is very loud like a jet engine but doesn't provide much airflow or cooling. 4. There are no physical buttons to open/close the cargo door, only a touchscreen button which can be inconvenient. 5. The van lacks storage compartments for things like sunglasses, snacks, and spill cleanup supplies. More cabins and spaces are needed. In summary, while the Rivian van has a cool futuristic look, it has some ergonomic and practicality issues related to storage, controls, and features. Rivian could improve on these areas in future vehicles and refresh versions.
Wow, I was not expecting that fan to sound like an air raid siren, gave me flashbacks from when I was stationed in Germany during the collapse of the USSR.
physical buttons for physical work. We switched to pure touch screen scanners at the post office everyone hates them. our old scanners button layout was MINT.
I can't imagine going down the stairs and getting out of a seat 200 plus times a day, you'd never need to go to the gym ever again! Damn that seems like a hard job. I used to deliver pizzas, but only 20-25 a day and it was a fairly active job.
Everything you said I said. I think the only one I want the most is the driver to have a sliding door... Like a small stepvan. Or make a stepvan electric. I prefer a stepvan in the winter time... I live in Arizona, it's brutal in the summer
i feel like without redesigning the whole vehicle they can make a caddy for holding all your stuff that clicks in the passenger side like a glove box. and then make a AC unit that can be bought that can replace the fans using the same mount.
hey bother, I'm a new follower I love your videos. thank you , the videos been very helpful . i just got an email stating I have to show up to the site to start , But I used to work at a fulfillment center
The Point 5 is only for safety reasons because no driver could jump from his seat in to the driving lane. Point 3 is a good point because if you wear gloves the touchscreen couldn’t work correctly too.
That fan is insanely loud.
That means you know that bitch working
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Sounds like an air raid siren. Gives me anxiety
I currently drive for Amazon in the rivians and that exhaust fan is terrible. It’s so loud, and doesn’t really make it any cooler in the cargo area.
It sounds like a tornado siren
Back in the Seventies in the UK we had vans that had 2 front sliding doors. I have a feeling that drivers were getting killed from stepping out without looking properly. Having an opening door means you HAVE to look. Passenger side opens to the kerb, so less likely to be hit by a passing car.
Exactly why I'd always get out from the side I pulled up to.
Just a little note. The reason why wireless is slower than wired is because it is inefficient. A portion of the electricity is lost during the charging process and becomes heat. Which is why your phone gets hot during wireless charging. Its the issue with the technology itself and i believe there is yet to be a solution
Apple's Magsafe is pretty good I heard. Magnets keep the charged firmly attached decreasing resistance and reducing heat.
Nothing will ever beat an actual wired connection though.
@@RodknockRhett For inductive charging, the process is inefficient due to the amount of energy needed to maintain the magnetic field, It is also not smoothly variable in the output power, thus when a device is fully charged and the inductive charger is just covering the idle power use, it will generate more heat since the excess energy is basically wasted as heat in the inductive coil that is typically sandwiched between the back cover and the battery. With that in mind, lever let a device just sit on an inductive charger while fully charged, you are basically just cooking your battery at that point. While it is not a high amount of heat, it is still enough to degrade the battery more quickly over time.
Most general inductive chargers have a 5 watt and 10 watt model, both being a slow charge, as at best you are getting the charge performance of old devices before quick charge technology came out. Most phones will charge at 18 watts over USB, and some will offer a more rapid charge of upwards of 40 watts, though those devices typically run into battery life issues within 1-1.5 years where you will find yourself recharging the battery multiple times per day.
PS, the inductive pads in some vehicles can be toggled on or off, this is needed because you don't want to place a non-inductive charging phone on an inductive charger, since they are likely to lack any protection for the inductive field being directed at various components and PCB traces, or worse, if a device has no inductive charging, while having a large NFC coil.
If it is a designated phone holder, then chances are that it may have some kind of setting to turn the inductive charger on or off.
There are also inductive chargers that can output much more than 10 watts, but those typically use proprietary signaling since those outputs are not part of the qi standard, and they need active cooling.
@@RodknockRhett The key to magsafe is it aligns the two coils perfectly every time. If coils are not aligned you may get charging to start, but inefficiently. Having them in exact alignment makes a huge difference, which is why magsafe was created. I have an induction charger that's a cheap aftermarket design for my SUV and it started intermittently not charging. I opened it up and found the wire coil was falling off, they used hot glue to fasten it. I replaced the glue with 3M adhesive tape and the problem was fixed, so how close the coils are to each other, and their alignment, are important. There is no resistance to increase or decrease, because it's proximity that causes the induction to work. The closer the two coils are, the stronger the field becomes.
@@CitEnthusiast that increase in distance or being misaligned IS causing an increase in resistance.
All resistance is, is how much can flow through a circuit at a time. Same thing will happen if your car's chassis grounds start to rust. The increase in resistance will destroy the ability for the electrical system to have enough current. That's when weird things happen.
All wireless charging is, is a large, very large circuit through induction. If there's any extra distance, you'll have a higher resistance. Higher resistance = less flow.
Another example: Speakers have their resistance to flow as well. Less resistance will cause the amplifier to flow more current actually making it put out more power.
A circuit with zero resistance is a short... This will on an unprotected circuit cause damage. I highly doubt there is ZERO resistance with wireless charging. As the only way you'll have that, is a direct connection from positive to negative. I will also garrantee you that Apple has a good setup going on to regulate this due to the amount of variables going on here.
Either way, my point still stands. Absolutely nothing beats a wired connection. Everything is stable for the most part (unless there's corrosion or the connection is loose) and that will deliver the most efficient charge.
Magsafe sounds like a great idea and all. And it's certainly an improvement over not having anything holding the charger on... But it definitely isn't going to replace a wired connection for awhile.
All energy transfers create heat as a byproduct, that’s what’s limiting humanity’s technological advancement. Thats the next technological hurdle we as humans need to overcome
I said exactly the same thing about the door when I got trained for these. My first day in it was kind of tricky at first, but then after the second hour I was good. Love the fact that I can jump on the touch screen without having to open the menu like we do when holding the rabbit, that’s a A++ from me, major game changer.
Biggest benefit for the EDV's in my opinion. More often than not my first and last stops are on the same road. Amazon isn't going to play me that way while in an EDV....
the navigation is so nice. It's also save battery for the rabbit because you don't have the screen always on for gps
With the stops/map/nav being on the screen in the EV, can you pick what stops to hit, to make the route go more in order?
@@zachlevinson2402 Yes, youre able to 'jump' from one stop to another that better serves you or makes more sense. The tricky part is making sure that that next stop has the package in the tote youre working on. A lot of the times Amazon does thos stupid stops is because they dont want you "crossing" a busy street or the package is part of the next tote in line. Thats why i would take 5-10min before heading out to load to go over my entire route. If something doesnt make sense i would write down the number of the stop and the tote with the package just so i know where to look. It takes some getting used to, but after a couple of times youll get the hang of it. Hope this helps, good luck!
@@TheCardGuyHW it does. I drove for FedEx and we have iPads with an app called ground cloud. It was sooo helpful. It was also helpful that each package was preloaded and had what’s called a “SID” sticker. That helped me move a lot faster. I wish Amazon did something like that
good video. very good points made. i feel like they dont intend you to even use the driver door, like they want you to exit on the right, likely safer. That roof fan needs to be 1 large fan and not 2-4 smaller ones at 10,000 rpms lol
yeah sounds like a drone
That's exactly what they want. It was in their unveiling video. They want you to get in the van thru the driver side and that should be the only time that door is opened.
Yeah drivers should exit through the passenger side it is a lot safer.
@@24BlackMamba8 Having that full size door should also be better against t-bones too vs a smaller/sliding door
All of these seem like easy fixes for Rivian. Your feedback is said very nicely and manufacturers design things the best they can but sometimes the "flaws" don't show up until the vehicle is in doing it's normal day to day job in a real word environment. Hopefully Rivian will listen and fix these issues.
Nice! Having to deliver so many packages in a day is tough. You can deliver the packages on the door step however, here in The Netherlands that is not allowed. Delivery has to be in person, and if noone is home, you have to take the package back with you. That takes lots of time, and we also have to deliver 150-200 packages each day....
Having one-pedal drive is awesome though, that is so relaxing. It indeed takes some practice, but it is really good.
Jow delivery straight up sucks sometimes here. Especially when you don't have control over the delivery date. It's such a mess and these days I only see stressed delivery guys at my door. (and yes I'm part of the problem by ordering online, you can't find everything locally) Sometimes neighbors aren't at home to take the package. Sometimes they hide the package around the backdoor. They take the package back and try it a different time or they bring it to a pickup point that is only open during work hours. It's gotten so bad recently that I got a letter in the mail saying that they missed me and I have to come pick it up. (I was literally there at home!)
wow!
No matter how small some of those things might sound/look, they all reduce productivity so improving the van would boost productivity = more packages delivered in the same time period = more cash for everyone, if you had to extrapolate how much time would you say is "wasted" or if you had natural lighting, driver sliding door, physical button for cargo area... how many more packages do you think you could handle in a shift?
Ask fellow drivers and present your findings with an estimated productivity assessment to your boss, they might listen and could even bring a bonus your way!
Making RUclips videos on the job reduces productivity, what's your point?
@@macbook802 Simpleminded people often don't get my point, and I don't have time to draw you pictures that maybe would make you understand!
@@VinnyVinceViper lol you keep telling your boss better ways for them to make money. Slave
@@VinnyVinceViper did your boss tell you to stop talking haha
bruh we are talking about amazon here, even if they fixed these things for some reason they'd never follow it back and credit him, they are a muti-billion dollar company and really could care less.
Concerning regenerative braking, I have a 2016 Tesla with 255,000 miles and haven’t needed to replace brakes. Love it!!
255 thousand? Has the range gone down?
@@brq44 Have only lost 13.5% of the cars original mileage. And I never charge it to 100%. 90% (195 miles)is the max.
@@TSLAaddict Wow, I thought it would be more, most people make it sound like the range will go down significantly in time.
@@brq44 It’s all in how you treat the battery. Can’t over stress it. I’m hoping to get at least 750k miles from the car. Doesn’t charge as fast (up to 120kw) as the new cars (150-200kw) but I do average over a trip of 53-55 mph instead of 65-70 in a ICE. 20% slower but virtually no maintenance. Thanks for asking.
@@TSLAaddict Any problems with the vehicle?
So fun to watch you on the rounds and awesome feedback. I hope the Rivian folk pay attention. Thank you to folks like you for getting the rest of us our goodies!
Thanks for shooting this video. It's getting me ready incase I get the Amazon delivery job. I'm a doordasher and and I use to deliver furniture so Im ready for this new experience. You did a great job on this video. Keep up the good work homie.
I drive these vehicles everyday since i work for Rivian. I agree the fan in back is terrible and more lighting would be a cheap fix. The seat belt strap needs to be stronger but the seat belt can't be moved outward. Your not suppose to use the drivers door to deliver and a button on the rear door would make it real easy to steal from. There are to two cup holders on the left, two trays in the center and a large space behind the seat, put your cooler in the back!!!!!! The regenerative braking is weird at first but i never even use the brakes flying around the yard at 50mph in the R1S or R1T!!! Amazon asked for some of the things you don't like.
Why can't the seatbelt be moved outward? It's done in plenty of other vehicles just fine
The driver door should still be a slide. I know many deliveries are curbside, but if you have to dock, having a sliding door makes it convenient for a driver should he/she have to exit driverside. I bet Rivian Engineers could connect the keyfob or some other method to the cargo door or come up with a way to allow drivers to open the cargo door while at the same time having it secure from bandits. The cupholders look too far forward for short drivers which now is a driving risk of accident should they reach to grab or place their drinks. I hear you on the cooler but again there's plenty of space forward to have a cooler or pocket for glasses, phones, etc drivers use in the cab.
I wonder what exactly you do at Rivian?
Seat belts can be moved.
More storage for the drivers is not only simple but logical.
Better ventilation in the back is needed.
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The sliding door button can be linked to the fob for security.
The van is a good concept but it can be improved, that's all.
IMO, letting the gas pedal off is really means that you don't want to accelerate anymore, and not that you want to start breaking. Slightest touch of the break pedal would be a better place for the regenerative breaking, and pushing pedal further would engage the mechanical breaks.
In a gas car the gas pedal means you’re giving the engine gas. In an electric car the pedal means your giving the motors electricity. When the electric motors don’t have electricity they’ll create resistance slowing the car.
@@lukesmebythe motors can freespin though, it's not like a car engine where having it connected and not powered creates massive drag you can use to slow your car down
one pedal mode is in every EV. usually optional. saves brakes alot
It’s sending charge back into the batteries that’s what causes the resistance, you can change it to coast like an ICE engine
Excellent detailed, genuinely-honest, and real-world user feedback. Mad props my dude, your are doing a service for all Junngle_tm drivers, and beyond. Bravo!
I second this comment... true real-world feedback
The cargo fan sounds like someone's flying a drone inside the back.
Yo chris I’ve been working as an Amazon driver for 2 months and they already got me on the edv! Your videos convinced me to try it out and so far it’s been good. Greetings from DEW5 🔥
LETS GET IT! I'm glad you tried Amazon. It's always better to try than to not try at all!
Thanks for everything you do! I actually became a Amazon driver after watching your videos and finding that it could be a great job for me. I drive for a DSP that doesn’t have the Rivian EVs but hopefully we get some in the future.
haha I hear this alot. I hope I didn't set false expectations
The drivers side door: They don't want you get out of the drivers side door into traffic.
Seems to me you still need to get to the cargo area to get the packages out. So getting out the passenger door makes sense.
An indoor parking lot? That sure would be nice! :O
There's a physical override lever in the cargo area for the bulkhead door on the passenger side middle shelf area. Saw it from another RUclipsr
It's only on the inside. We need one on the outside!
@LaosHouse that would be a great way for randos to access your van while making a delivery.
Agreed with pretty much all of these ! That driver door is insanely heavy! I hate going out that stupid door lol. I got caught leaving it open because it’s so heavy. I too mostly go around every time. That seatbelt sucks being soooo far back & that strap is very touchy lol. The cargo fan as you said is very dumb, useless & loud for no reason! I hate it lol. The cargo door button is also very annoying. I come back in & miss it all the time ! Translucent tops w/ the cargo area would make a huge difference with my sunglasses lol, you hit everything right on the nose! Those little things would make delivery life a little easier.
Love your videos and awesome attitude. Stay safe and cool out there 😎
Appreciate the donation blue_gray! You be safe out there too and stay positive!
can you imagine one of these converted to a van life home, when these go into salvage they will be gold
No, no enough range
The reason the driver door is so large is because the delivery vans are designed for left and right drive markets. It's cheaper to make the two doors easily swappable depending on the market it's being sold in.
Rivian needs to hire this young man to do full walk-thrus of their vehicles. He gave GREAT feedback to make the equipment updates needed to make the drivers days safe and easier -- Good job @chirsSing !!!!
The cat was about to murk that mole lol
He called it a mouse 😂
One of the few Reps.. that ring the door bell. Good job.
Regenerative braking is something all evs have and do in order to help with range.
He's really talking about the "one pedal" control mode, not regenerative braking.
Around 2:30 This explains why my doggos will sniff my Amazon-delivered packages. I'd always thought this was the reason but now I have confirmation. Nice video.
Just drove the EDV for the first time yesterday, I figured it would slow me down due to having to get used to it, but I was pleasantly surprised, that van was awesome!
That's why step vans are the best. Having a door open all day makes you move quicker and easier.
The delivery experience is unmatched compared to the cargos!
I absolutely love how beautiful New Jersey suburbs are
I used to work where these Vans are made in Normal, IL. It was kinda surreal walking the line every day going to and from my station, and seeing the amount RPVs (thats what they refer to the vans in house as) on the line.
Mother of holy god this is like a high end drone flying around in this rivian.
Definitely some growing pains. Good feedback so they can focus on it. Sometimes you dont really know what you can do better until you build something and people give feedback on what they like and don't like.
EXCELLENT feedback. Everything you said makes a lot of sense. Rivian should listen up
dude i BUSTED out laughing when you turned the cargo fan on lmao yeah I would never use it lol
I can still hear it in my head. Rivian please make it A/C!
Hey man, thanks for what you do. You people make the 1st world turn. I respect how much you put up with and do and I wish you the best and all the $ !!!
appreciate it fam. Respect to all delivery drivers out there. It ain't easy
Hello from another delivery to another driver greetings from Japan. love your videos keep up the greet work
greetings from across the world!
6:40 lol I love how you still calling it a ‘gas pedal’
one peddle driving is amazing! Theres a learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, when you go back to normal it feels archaic!
I just finished my route of 32 packages, 31 stops as an XL driver took me the whole 10 hours across the state of florida, I see your pkg count and I'm like God I don't miss doing 200+ stops 😅
How do you get a route like that
@@joedaniel7228 Amazon has different divisions for drivers:
There's the most commonly known AMZL that deals with 300+ small packages and stops.
AMXL deals with only large and or heavy packages that AMZL cant haul. We get fewer stops but we travel much farther to get to those stops. Different cities across country roads to give an idea. Our vehicles are generally bigger and more fit for long distance trips too.
Freight I believe is the same as AMXL but with bigger hauls that XL can't hold for legal reasons and the requirement of a CDL license.
I think there's 2 more divisions but I believe they're similar to AMZL
you have inspired me to look into delivery work im going to attempt driving for my local PS doing rule routs for now, and go from their, thank you for sharing your experience
It can be a lot of work sometimes but it can be chill. best of luck!
Great video, I hope Rivian watches and takes your very valid suggestions.
First time that I’m on your channel / video there, really like your way! I’m gonna watch the others for sure
Thank you
Man, those cargo fans sound like Rivian simply put small fans meant for server cooling in there, since they sound quite similar.
#1 Great content. Keep it up.
#2 Seatbelts do stink on the EDV's. Try taking the seatbelt and wrapping it around the steering wheel. Easy access and a big game changer with speed.
#3 The wireless charger does work but it has to be spot on. Pesonally I've never placed my peronsal device on that shelf as I'm afraid of it falling out. I almost always have the passenger door open.
#4 Agreed with the storage compartments.
#5 Out of curiousity, what are you looking for addresses and not driver aid #
Again, love your content and you're super helpful for up and coming drivers. Well produced!
I'm tired of looking at driver aid numbers (only for overflow). I find looking for addresses easier on the mind
I JUST started using addresses instead of driver aid numbers & I agree, easier on the mind. Something about having all my packages on their separate streets separated make it go by quicker in my brain lol 😅😂
Looking for adddress is better than driver aid number imo, there are times where I have packages NOT on my itinerary but still part of my route (fuck warehouse workers). If im looking for only drivers aid numbers then Ill miss those mis sorted packages and have to re deliver them, but if im looking at the address, then I can deliver my missorts in 1 go
I remember when amazon flex wouldn't tell you that you even had grouped stops. It would just be a rude surprise when they pop up.
Bro, this makes me miss being an Amazon driver. Sadly, my company didnt have an EVs, but i loved those Ford Transits! 😂
I subscribed as soon as I heard you singing Snooze by Sza !! That’s my shit
Looks like you drove through my city! Looks like a clean route :) be safe my friend
341 packages?! That’s insane lol my dsp usually gives out 300 max, regular is anywhere from 250-300 and even at that we get rescued early morning for half the route or just 80 packages!
I work downtown so me and my coworkers do 300 to 600 lol.
We sit around 250-350. Anything below 300 is ight
I love these please keep it up they really entertain me and I love to watch them!
I'm glad you enjoyed! more to come
Amazon needs to pay this guy, giving real tips which will safe them lots money in the long run
Love this videos! Absouluty chill. Greetings from Germany!!
Hallo! Greetings from the USA!
Having watched a few of your videos it still amazes me that you are allowed to drop the parcel(s) at the door, walk back and forward to/from the van, have time to stop for something to eat.
Having done this job in the UK for the past 6 months, the routes got heavier and heavier, (rarely got swept or "rescued"), to the point I was literally running from the van, never had time to eat and on quite a few occasions I didn't even have time to stop for a pee.... all for around £9 per hour, (current minimum wage is around £10.46), if you weren't fast enough..... In my experience, the faster you were, the more you were punished with more stops, drops and parcels
It's called 1 pedal driving, Most new electrics have it as an option. it takes getting use to. I personally dont use it a lot, but some people love it
I feel you on missing actual physical buttons, I work in a mill, the old control room we had was all old mechanical switches and toggle buttons. It was so nice to push a button and hear it activate a relay and actually get some form of auditory feedback. The new control system is all on a computer, point and click a prompt on a computer display. I’ve clicked the wrong thing so many times and it’s frustrating. Physical buttons are a necessity for actual work. Probably why I won’t ever sell my F-150, infotainment is all physical buttons.
That fan sounds like tornado siren
Man I love watching all your videos. Pure entertaining. Im thinking about going back to driving a step van. This warehouse work at amazon isnt it. They pay for my school though.
9:40 you're in a van not a server room that is a big no no Rivian needs to change that and honestly should be a recall item.
The future comes with some update in words. It’s “not” a gas pedal, it’s called an accelerator.
Does your DSP offer benefits? You should make a video where you talk about your DSP
I agree with what you said. The fan sounds like server fans which are generally only 40-80mm tall/wide. That's quite ridiculous they just didn't have larger fans that would turn slower since they would move a larger amount of air (CFM)
The translucent top would make sense too because you can turn the light off during the day in the back reducing the need for electricity.
Seems like there was A LOT of wasted space up front where they have have compartments. BTW, is there a compartment behind the driver seat that might have the paperwork of the van and such? It should be required by management that drivers know where the paper work is!
Who ever designed this vehicle clearly have never spent 8h+ delivering packages. Such small things, that make a whole world of difference.
I don’t think that’s a fair assessment. There’s a lot that went into this for a first generation van. The door opens when you park, it has AC in the cabin, it’s quiet and smooth, the navigation built in has the delivery route. They can’t get it perfect the first go, but they did better than all the others out there
Great video, thanks for your hard work out there.
Just as a tip, even if the wireless charger did work, I wouldn't recommend using it. Lots of issues with wireless chargers in cars getting way too hot and damaging phones. In my personal EV, I just disabled the wireless charging feature and just use the space as a phone rest. If I'm going to be in my car all day, I just bring a battery bank - for your use case you could command strip a bank into place near that little compartment to charge the phone or maybe you can tie it to something so you don't have to repeatedly buy command strips. Or you could get a battery case for your phone that you use during work days and just switch to a regular, slimmer case when you don't need the juice. Obviously not ideal though that you have to buy things to solve problems that Rivian could fix themselves in a refresh (the lack of storage is a particularly egregious oversight).
Also, you may be able to disable the one pedal driving, not sure how much freedom you have to alter the settings in these trucks. I've also disabled this in my car because I don't like it. I have a Polestar, but I press the button that looks like a car and the setting is called one pedal driving. I also enable "creep", which simulates the way a traditional car will slowly creep forward or in reverse if you take your foot off the brake. Personal preference, but this is a more natural driving experience for me.
The Regen Braking is made to get more effiency you can turn it off normally
just remember that with the regen braking, it basically uses the motors inside the van are used as generators, charging the battering when braking.
When I first saw one of those Amazon Rivian delivery vans in front of my house, it looked like something from the future.
Thanks for your service! We ALL rely on you! Hope you get improved vans soon! ^_^/
Your groupstop is insane but those 190 we do that everyday in Atl lmao 300 plus packages your goated tho
Tht snooze hit diff boa 😂
Chris: I know the driver side door is heavy, but it is probably for safety to protect you from a side crash. The lack of AC in the cabin is likely by design to minimize energy use. Battery capacity is limited. It is for moving the car, not to keep the packages cool.
Your suggestions have been approved... CEO of RIVIAN. 😀😀
regen brakes = insane $ savings for amazon when it comes to never having to change brakes og brake pads.
i'm a delivery driver here in Holland not for amazon, But other ones called Trunkrs and PACKS and ofcourse DHL i did for a long time with DPD aswell. But you have nice views and you see alot around you like the racoons rats stuff like that. We here in Amsterdam have only boring houses nothing much to see. I would love the job there in USA to explore and see new things.
I work for Rivian and I'll personally talk to Mr. Bezos to get these issues resolved for you o7 keep up the good work
5:27 Regenerative Braking (aka One-Pedal Driving) is the best, but I can see why it bother people. Most are used Accel / Brake. But OPD saves the brakes, and is really good for delivery businesses where there's a lot of stop / go. Personally, i love it for my EV, it feels more natural after a while, imo
Don't worry. I was still able to hear you during the tornado siren portion of your video.
Dang dude these vids make me want to become a FedEx driver
This is such a well done video
Loved the video! They have talked about getting electric vehicles for so long that its nice to finally see what the Rivians look like and the quirks of them.
Here are 5 key takeaways from the video:
1. The Rivian delivery van has some minor inconveniences like the seatbelt being positioned far back and the regenerative braking taking some getting used to.
2. The wireless phone charger doesn't seem to work well, with wired charging being faster and better.
3. The cargo fan is very loud like a jet engine but doesn't provide much airflow or cooling.
4. There are no physical buttons to open/close the cargo door, only a touchscreen button which can be inconvenient.
5. The van lacks storage compartments for things like sunglasses, snacks, and spill cleanup supplies. More cabins and spaces are needed.
In summary, while the Rivian van has a cool futuristic look, it has some ergonomic and practicality issues related to storage, controls, and features. Rivian could improve on these areas in future vehicles and refresh versions.
Captain obvious strikes again!
Is the range based on a full load? What is the efficiency if you are empty?
To be fair, the fan is meant to suck hot air out, not blow cool air in. So you wouldn’t really feel anything standing under it
"For the Cargo door" double click the unlock button twice on the key fob while inside the van it should open for you.
I knew you were cool when you put that headband on, Roranoa Zoro style
I was always impressed that in the US they leave packages at the door. Here in Argentina, half of the packages would be stolen haha
Wow, I was not expecting that fan to sound like an air raid siren, gave me flashbacks from when I was stationed in Germany during the collapse of the USSR.
😂 I had only 114 stops the other day, I felt I had to be on the rush the whole day.
Idk how you’re recording a video with with all those stops.
physical buttons for physical work. We switched to pure touch screen scanners at the post office everyone hates them. our old scanners button layout was MINT.
I can't imagine going down the stairs and getting out of a seat 200 plus times a day, you'd never need to go to the gym ever again! Damn that seems like a hard job. I used to deliver pizzas, but only 20-25 a day and it was a fairly active job.
Everything you said I said. I think the only one I want the most is the driver to have a sliding door... Like a small stepvan. Or make a stepvan electric. I prefer a stepvan in the winter time... I live in Arizona, it's brutal in the summer
That fan is an air raid siren to let all the packages know to evaluate the van in case of an emergency.
3:21 "we'll be right back" 🤣
This is much better quality than Marques Brownlee and I think it's because you know this vehicle so well
i feel like without redesigning the whole vehicle they can make a caddy for holding all your stuff that clicks in the passenger side like a glove box. and then make a AC unit that can be bought that can replace the fans using the same mount.
hey bother, I'm a new follower I love your videos. thank you , the videos been very helpful . i just got an email stating I have to show up to the site to start , But I used to work at a fulfillment center
The Point 5 is only for safety reasons because no driver could jump from his seat in to the driving lane.
Point 3 is a good point because if you wear gloves the touchscreen couldn’t work correctly too.
1:10 bro playing holiday lesss go
I had 14 bags 42 overflow and we don't have 2 shelfs in our vans so moving around in my van was pretty much impossible today.