I really appreciate the way you pause between clear consise statements Kenny, it gives me (the student) time to absorb what you are saying. Very helpful presentations. Thank you !
I have been watching the whole series. I will continue to watch and practice every lesson many time over. Thank you Kenny, you are an amazingly takented engineer and instructor.
If Im doing searches on Reaper, Kenny's vids are the one who comes up! The info is always there. Ive gotten to the point where I thumbs up soon as I hit the video cause I know that I will find what Im looking for , and about 3 extras gems in there as well. Love this guy. Keep up the good work. . .yeah, I subscribed too.
After watching a LOT of tempo mapping videos, I would say this was the best one at explaining things and clearly showing the actions associated with the change. Great job and thank you.
thank you so much, Kenny. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why the heck was my playback rate changing on some clips whenever I moved it past a certain point on the timeline. Viewing the master track helped tremendously!! Thanks!
Kenny, you saved my day!!! Even "Being Boiled" from THL changes bpm every few bars. I thought even in 1978 a drum machine was a machine ;-) This video saved me so much time! Thanks, for this great tutorial!!! And you allways concentrate on what you are doing, no timewasting chattering :-) Thank You!
Thank you for making this video. I've been looking for a good explanation on how to deal with time signature changes. You didn't address this directly but you did show the necessary setting.
Thank you again, Kenny. I've been waiting for this one! I had made a request awhile back. I knew you'd come through! Awesome. This is big subject. I bet you could do a series on "Tempo" alone Regards, Eric
this is cool. I was wondering if Reaper has any more automated way of doing this? E.g. in a performance without a click track (like the last one in this video), is there a way to select the whole thing and have Reaper try to detect the tempo / tempo changes based on transients and then place the tempo markers accordingly?
So the answer is, record to a click and take the time to do pre pro work and make click tracks for your songs. It saves so much time in the end when there's a foundation laid out for everyone to follow.
@Luke If your recording live drums and the drummers tight then yeah sometimes thats cool, but when your programming drums it's WAY easier to just stick to a click lol. Feel be damned!!!
I can successfully tempo map to my reference track that has different tempos. But once all the tempo markers and inserted and correct, how do I then tell REAPER or SWS to move markers AND stretch audio to a consistent tempo?
so I managed to build a tempo map to a stems project for one of my artists "after the fact". Now what do I change if I want to affect the actual tempo of everything by changing the bpm in a section? In cubase we have a command "apply project tempo" which "Bakes in" the bpm into the wav files. how do you do it in reaper?
To be honest I was expecting more creativity from Reaper crew eg. running a song in a mode where you manually hit spaces for each measure start. In such method you would have the guaranttee that the max time it would take is the song duration and you won't forget about any strange changes/inconsistences in the middle of a song. However, Reaper with its 10MB installer is the best DAW ever done.
i have a multi track recording but nothing really lines up. if i group everything it becomes a bigger mess. is it smart to adjust the grid to the bassguitar ( which is most solid throughout) and then do the other tracks with stretch markers? adjusting them to the bass/grid
I put a marker in the middle of the song (with the same bpm of the project) and another with a different bpm at the beginning of the song (the song has two different tempos) when putting that other marker changed the position of the first marker, why?
Hi Kenny I have been trying to apply this to free MIDI recording (without metronome)... Project settings timebase for items: Time and recording with the Tempo set to approx tempo. Then selecting some beats, creating a time selection... MIDI events always speed up or slow down according to the calculated tempo. The tutorial does not seem to work on MIDI items or am I missing something? I could, of course, render the MIDI part to audio and then apply the tutorial on the rendered Audio file... but, I'd like to be able to keep the original MIDI in it's originally recorded tempo... Help... please? :-)
Audio time base is actually in samples, hence why audio tempo independence (having out of time audio) is possible. The time base for midi however is ticks. Ticks that are set by the tempo. Midi is tempo dependent thus you cannot do this to midi
Am I the only one having trouble with moving/dragging the tempo markers. Some can move, others not. What am I doing wrong? Windows 10 PC. Need some help here please.
This made me remember something I had a go at a long while back. A friend once recorded himself playing a piano piece (this was in Logic, though that is not relevant). Is there a way to do this tempo mapping given a midi file recorded freeform where the tempo in the DAW was 120bpm (say). Back then I gave up on this. Your video makes me think it's at least doable given Reaper. I'm thinking that you'd need to bounce the midi to audio (piano vst or just a short sharp synth pluck); then tempo map the audio, and then export project midi to get the tempo map in a .mid file, then use a short script in python (and possibly midicsv) to do a bit of number crunching: take the original .mid data, with a fixed tempo, to calculate the clock time of each note as a decimal number of seconds, then go through the tempo map file, calculate the clock time of each tempo change, to work out which notes go where, and then convert things back to musical time (beats). One of these days I may have a go at actually doing this.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask a question... I was using tempo mapping to work with some fermata(s). It worked perfectly but when I rendered it I had to go a little past the first fermata (instead of beat 3 I had to go to beat 3.25 or so to enable it to render correctly). It kept eliminating the note with the fermata (the "slowed down" note). Not sure if it's because of my old kerosene powered laptop or if there is some sort of bug. On just the first fermata I had to also put a slower tempo to achieve the same length as the rest of the fermati(?) in the song. Any suggestions about this or would you suggest a different method? Thank you so much & I always look to your videos to get things done!
So what are the benefits of having a tempo map like this, and making sure the grids are correct? I'm still learning some of this stuff, and genuinely curious.
hi kenny. when you import multitracks into reaper, reaper plays the song at the set tempo of the actual song regardless of the bpm being at 120. that's all well and good untill it comes to editing when the click doesn't match. if you change the bpm in reaper it speeds up the imported audio. is there a way of turning this setting off?
Dear Kenny, thanks a lot for this awesome tutorial. I have a song with tempo mapping and I want to send all channels for mixing. My guy uses though, Cubase. Is there a way to export this tempo map for him to use it? In any way, keep up the great work of yours man! You are very helpful! 🤘
why doesnt this work on MIDI recorded tracks?? How can i do this for a midi track? Every time i try this the grid moves/changes BUT the midi moves/changes too, (after the tempo point).. AAARRGGG I changed the project settings but it still does it. I can get it to work by converting the midi to audio .........but of course i want to preserve the midi. SOLVED.... this video is for audio only. With midi recordings done without a click track/metronome we can extend or compress a midi take without altering the pitch, or cutting, or adding space/previously edited out notes ... BY ALT and DRAG of the selection end or beginning, instead of just drag. PHEW! Using alt+drag on a midi recording easily fits the selection to bar ending and/or beginning. Pitch is not altered because midi has no pitch.
Thank you for this tutorial you made this process very understandable. Is it necessary to tempo map the whole project if you only need the grid at difficult parts of the performance or would it throw out the grid if you had to go back to an earlier moment in the track?
HI Kenny thank you so much for the amazing video! Is there a way in reaper to re-create the conductor track feature in digital performer, where I can tap tempo using the keyboard to create a performance ?
Hey Kenny! Instead of healing your splits and doing manual re-alignments AFTER that could potentially mess up your nice tight tempo mapping, keep the splits and after making your tempo adjustments, move the track items with snap enabled: the splits will serve as guides. Then, heal the splits. :D
good to know, but i don't see the point..if the your going to play another track such as bass guitar or whatever against the drum track then how does a variable click help. probably easier to just do multiple takes and watch the markers or something. definitely interesting knowing tempo detection mapping tempo for samples. evcellent vid
Kenny, I notice you seem to be selecting a small part of the audio and zooming in to choose a point in the track very accurately. Sorry for asking a question that may be obvious to others, but how do you zoom like that using the mouse?
Hi Kenny, I've gone through many of your videos and tried many things to correct a problem I have. I have a drum track that was apparently taken from guitar hero: ruclips.net/video/Ab6IAPBuCD8/видео.html Then I have the original track ruclips.net/video/X_1G8ICaG5s/видео.html Now I've converted both tracks to wave format and added both tracks into reaper. The first drums only track starts off a few bars from the original which is no problem to move. My problem is as the two tracks play they gradually start to go out of time with each other. Can you point me in the right direction as to which of your videos applies to this problem? I'm trying to do a drum cover of the song. Regards Mark
I played around with them a bit. I would use Stretch markers on the drums track and stretch them so that the beginning and end line up. If you want it even tighter, you can go bar by bar. www.kennymania.com/20-stretch-markers/
Wow! Thank you so much Kenny! I was truly lost on this. I'm so grateful for your help and your time! Thank you! You're the greatest! I love your tutorials and reaper!
I've seen how to do this technique in Propellerhead reason but could never figure out how to do it in my beloved REAPER. Many thanks Kenny. Could you please show us how to perfectly map a vocal acapella? I do a lot of unofficial remixes with mainstream acapellas and have to time stretch audio a lot to get it to 'fit' to my desired tempo.
Hi Nick - think you would be able to do this by creating a slope on the tempo map envelope which Kenny showed right at the start of the video. As it is in the video you can see the blue line is abruptly changing, but you can have a slope between points too. Hope that helps.
THANK YOU.. whow.. I was so ignorant.. I've been looking for this for a few years now and just always thought it was called beat detective... XD THE LONG SEARCH IS OVER HAHA!!! MY LIFE IS SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS!
I really appreciate the way you pause between clear consise statements Kenny, it gives me (the student) time to absorb what you are saying. Very helpful presentations. Thank you !
A great 'real-world' feature for musicians. Thanks Kenny.
The unravelling of this program just gets better and better, literally my music production dreams are now possible
I have been watching the whole series. I will continue to watch and practice every lesson many time over. Thank you Kenny, you are an amazingly takented engineer and instructor.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE TUTORIALS! THANK YOU SO MUCH- feels so compforable learning with your voice and how you expain it
If Im doing searches on Reaper, Kenny's vids are the one who comes up! The info is always there. Ive gotten to the point where I thumbs up soon as I hit the video cause I know that I will find what Im looking for , and about 3 extras gems in there as well. Love this guy. Keep up the good work. . .yeah, I subscribed too.
After watching a LOT of tempo mapping videos, I would say this was the best one at explaining things and clearly showing the actions associated with the change. Great job and thank you.
Wow, simply brilliant! Great tutorial.
Thanks
thank you so much, Kenny. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why the heck was my playback rate changing on some clips whenever I moved it past a certain point on the timeline. Viewing the master track helped tremendously!! Thanks!
Kenny, you saved my day!!! Even "Being Boiled" from THL changes bpm every few bars. I thought even in 1978 a drum machine was a machine ;-) This video saved me so much time! Thanks, for this great tutorial!!! And you allways concentrate on what you are doing, no timewasting chattering :-) Thank You!
Interesting - I wonder if it's likely that it was recorded to analog tape which caused the tempo variations
Bro, this video is pure gold, thank you for all your content!
Something I would have never figured out on my own. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this tutorial ! I am scoring a movie and needed to exactly fit the images. Thanks to you I am now able to do so !
Thank you for making this video. I've been looking for a good explanation on how to deal with time signature changes. You didn't address this directly but you did show the necessary setting.
Very useful technique and super clear explanation. Thank you Kenny!
This is brilliant. Been trying to tempo map drums not recorded to a click for ages, this helps a lot
Thank you very much for this clear explanation, it's really helpful .
Even though trying to map the tempo of an old soul record, is a real pain.
Thanks a lot for this and all your other Reaper tutorials.
Thanks for the tutorial Christopher Walken!
I came here to say this. but still great tutorial, thank you! :)
Thank you again, Kenny. I've been waiting for this one! I had made a request awhile back. I knew you'd come through!
Awesome. This is big subject. I bet you could do a series on "Tempo" alone Regards, Eric
You are The Man, just what I needed. I love your tutorials simply the best :)
this is cool. I was wondering if Reaper has any more automated way of doing this? E.g. in a performance without a click track (like the last one in this video), is there a way to select the whole thing and have Reaper try to detect the tempo / tempo changes based on transients and then place the tempo markers accordingly?
Thank you Kenny ! That's one thing I had no idea how to do in REAPER.
Excellent tutorial. Good work. Thank you!
Great tutorial, Kenny! Very useful information and very well explained.
Thanks for that!
So the answer is, record to a click and take the time to do pre pro work and make click tracks for your songs. It saves so much time in the end when there's a foundation laid out for everyone to follow.
@Luke If your recording live drums and the drummers tight then yeah sometimes thats cool, but when your programming drums it's WAY easier to just stick to a click lol. Feel be damned!!!
Don't delete this please because i always forget 1:10 4:54 6:47 7:22 12:54 13:38
Hi Kenny, the Ctrl-Alt mouse modifier for moving tempo marker without affecting other markers isn't there, has this been changed? thanks
I can successfully tempo map to my reference track that has different tempos. But once all the tempo markers and inserted and correct, how do I then tell REAPER or SWS to move markers AND stretch audio to a consistent tempo?
You got me when you showed me CMD drag a Tempo Marker, never knew that trick, wow !!
Did you test on Windows ? I don't succeed to reproduce, I tried all CTRL/ALT/Shit combo and solo, is their a mouse modifier for that ?
@@XRaym Did you get this worked out?
so I managed to build a tempo map to a stems project for one of my artists "after the fact". Now what do I change if I want to affect the actual tempo of everything by changing the bpm in a section? In cubase we have a command "apply project tempo" which "Bakes in" the bpm into the wav files. how do you do it in reaper?
To be honest I was expecting more creativity from Reaper crew eg. running a song in a mode where you manually hit spaces for each measure start. In such method you would have the guaranttee that the max time it would take is the song duration and you won't forget about any strange changes/inconsistences in the middle of a song. However, Reaper with its 10MB installer is the best DAW ever done.
i have a multi track recording but nothing really lines up. if i group everything it becomes a bigger mess. is it smart to adjust the grid to the bassguitar ( which is most solid throughout) and then do the other tracks with stretch markers? adjusting them to the bass/grid
Really detailed and clear guide, thank you!
Tempo markers rules! Thanks, you re a genius!
Hey Kenny. Thanks for the video. Is there a way of putting tempo markers at all dynamic splits? I have a recorded click I need to put tempo to 😅
I put a marker in the middle of the song (with the same bpm of the project) and another with a different bpm at the beginning of the song (the song has two different tempos) when putting that other marker changed the position of the first marker, why?
Hi Kenny I have been trying to apply this to free MIDI recording (without metronome)... Project settings timebase for items: Time and recording with the Tempo set to approx tempo.
Then selecting some beats, creating a time selection... MIDI events always speed up or slow down according to the calculated tempo.
The tutorial does not seem to work on MIDI items or am I missing something?
I could, of course, render the MIDI part to audio and then apply the tutorial on the rendered Audio file... but, I'd like to be able to keep the original MIDI in it's originally recorded tempo...
Help... please? :-)
Audio time base is actually in samples, hence why audio tempo independence (having out of time audio) is possible. The time base for midi however is ticks. Ticks that are set by the tempo. Midi is tempo dependent thus you cannot do this to midi
Am I the only one having trouble with moving/dragging the tempo markers. Some can move, others not. What am I doing wrong? Windows 10 PC. Need some help here please.
This made me remember something I had a go at a long while back.
A friend once recorded himself playing a piano piece (this was in Logic, though that is not relevant). Is there a way to do this tempo mapping given a midi file recorded freeform where the tempo in the DAW was 120bpm (say). Back then I gave up on this.
Your video makes me think it's at least doable given Reaper. I'm thinking that you'd need to bounce the midi to audio (piano vst or just a short sharp synth pluck); then tempo map the audio, and then export project midi to get the tempo map in a .mid file, then use a short script in python (and possibly midicsv) to do a bit of number crunching: take the original .mid data, with a fixed tempo, to calculate the clock time of each note as a decimal number of seconds, then go through the tempo map file, calculate the clock time of each tempo change, to work out which notes go where, and then convert things back to musical time (beats). One of these days I may have a go at actually doing this.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask a question... I was using tempo mapping to work with some fermata(s). It worked perfectly but when I rendered it I had to go a little past the first fermata (instead of beat 3 I had to go to beat 3.25 or so to enable it to render correctly). It kept eliminating the note with the fermata (the "slowed down" note). Not sure if it's because of my old kerosene powered laptop or if there is some sort of bug. On just the first fermata I had to also put a slower tempo to achieve the same length as the rest of the fermati(?) in the song. Any suggestions about this or would you suggest a different method? Thank you so much & I always look to your videos to get things done!
Still no way to move the Tempo Grid around a MIDI item recorded without the metronome? (Now Reaper 7...)
So what are the benefits of having a tempo map like this, and making sure the grids are correct? I'm still learning some of this stuff, and genuinely curious.
Thanks again Kenny.
Thanks. That was really clear and useful.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! THIS HELPED SO MUCH!!!!
hi kenny. when you import multitracks into reaper, reaper plays the song at the set tempo of the actual song regardless of the bpm being at 120. that's all well and good untill it comes to editing when the click doesn't match. if you change the bpm in reaper it speeds up the imported audio. is there a way of turning this setting off?
change the track's time base to "time" and it won't stretch when the tempo is edited
metronome wasnt even close at all when i did "measure from time selection'
Great video as usual, but how do I map the tempo BEFORE having any audio, if I know the song I need to record has tempo changes?
Next step for REAPER is making that time quantization automatic?
Dear Kenny, thanks a lot for this awesome tutorial. I have a song with tempo mapping and I want to send all channels for mixing. My guy uses though, Cubase. Is there a way to export this tempo map for him to use it? In any way, keep up the great work of yours man! You are very helpful! 🤘
why doesnt this work on MIDI recorded tracks?? How can i do this for a midi track? Every time i try this the grid moves/changes BUT the midi moves/changes too, (after the tempo point).. AAARRGGG I changed the project settings but it still does it.
I can get it to work by converting the midi to audio .........but of course i want to preserve the midi.
SOLVED.... this video is for audio only. With midi recordings done without a click track/metronome we can extend or compress a midi take without altering the pitch, or cutting, or adding space/previously edited out notes ... BY ALT and DRAG of the selection end or beginning, instead of just drag. PHEW! Using alt+drag on a midi recording easily fits the selection to bar ending and/or beginning. Pitch is not altered because midi has no pitch.
Thank you for this tutorial you made this process very understandable. Is it necessary to tempo map the whole project if you only need the grid at difficult parts of the performance or would it throw out the grid if you had to go back to an earlier moment in the track?
Hey kenny, is there a way in reaper to make the tempo gradually get slower instead of in chunks?
Great video as usual
This tool is a godsend.
Why would one do this method over using stretch markers? I'm confused.
HI Kenny thank you so much for the amazing video! Is there a way in reaper to re-create the conductor track feature in digital performer, where I can tap tempo using the keyboard to create a performance ?
So you can only change the tempo of the master track and not the tempo of a single item?
Great content Kenny. Thanks.
How can I warp tempo like Ableton live please? I would like to mashup songs for remix.
yo
how up or down tempo but progressive ? thx
very good video thank you !
You're the Norm Abram of DAWs ;-) Thanks.
Hey Kenny! Instead of healing your splits and doing manual re-alignments AFTER that could potentially mess up your nice tight tempo mapping, keep the splits and after making your tempo adjustments, move the track items with snap enabled: the splits will serve as guides. Then, heal the splits. :D
Anyway that I could export the audio WITH the metronome audible in the same way that it was in the project?
New track + time selection + insert click source action
awesome dude!
Reaper keeps stopping the playback when ever it comes to a tempo change???? Why??? And how do I stop it
This is GREAT!!!
Literally about to try a new DAW because I cannot stand the way this guy talks. Valuable information. Delivered in the most obnoxious way.
awesome tutorial aa always Kenny. I got a little lost in that last bit, when you're moving the tempo markers, is that changing the tempo at all?
02:35 solved my problem thank you knnnn
good to know, but i don't see the point..if the your going to play another track such as bass guitar or whatever against the drum track then how does a variable click help. probably easier to just do multiple takes and watch the markers or something. definitely interesting knowing tempo detection mapping tempo for samples. evcellent vid
saviorrrrrrrr
whats the name of that song??
Clean Bandit - Rather Be
Great videos Kenny
Is there a feature like this that deals with Groove? Like Groove mapping?
Thank you so much for this.
Oh man!!! Thank you for this!!! Such a great lesson!!! Subbed and Liked!! :D
How or why are songs recorded and not in tempo? Seems to me your final product would be perfectly in sync right? So what is the reason for this?
Thank you... great tutorial.
This is great. Do you have a patreon? Thank you!
Kenny, I notice you seem to be selecting a small part of the audio and zooming in to choose a point in the track very accurately. Sorry for asking a question that may be obvious to others, but how do you zoom like that using the mouse?
www.kennymania.com/zooming/
Best method yet! Thanks again Kenny!
Hi Kenny, I've gone through many of your videos and tried many things to correct a problem I have. I have a drum track that was apparently taken from guitar hero: ruclips.net/video/Ab6IAPBuCD8/видео.html Then I have the original track ruclips.net/video/X_1G8ICaG5s/видео.html Now I've converted both tracks to wave format and added both tracks into reaper. The first drums only track starts off a few bars from the original which is no problem to move. My problem is as the two tracks play they gradually start to go out of time with each other. Can you point me in the right direction as to which of your videos applies to this problem? I'm trying to do a drum cover of the song. Regards Mark
I played around with them a bit. I would use Stretch markers on the drums track and stretch them so that the beginning and end line up. If you want it even tighter, you can go bar by bar. www.kennymania.com/20-stretch-markers/
Wow! Thank you so much Kenny! I was truly lost on this. I'm so grateful for your help and your time! Thank you! You're the greatest! I love your tutorials and reaper!
I've seen how to do this technique in Propellerhead reason but could never figure out how to do it in my beloved REAPER. Many thanks Kenny. Could you please show us how to perfectly map a vocal acapella? I do a lot of unofficial remixes with mainstream acapellas and have to time stretch audio a lot to get it to 'fit' to my desired tempo.
Just cahnging the project tempo should stretch the audio to fit. No?
I´m saving this one! :-)
is this the music for how its made?
For cover and remix songs
I've learned so much )
When I split my audio, I get this:
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Then it cannot heal. How do I fix that?
Thanks Guido
Hi Kenny. I would like to see a video on how to add gradual even time changes to the time base (ie ritardandos and accelerandos).
Hi Nick - think you would be able to do this by creating a slope on the tempo map envelope which Kenny showed right at the start of the video. As it is in the video you can see the blue line is abruptly changing, but you can have a slope between points too. Hope that helps.
@@gregs5154 Thank you.
God bless you
awesome!
lol i was just trying to do this exact thing. thx!
THANK YOU.. whow.. I was so ignorant.. I've been looking for this for a few years now and just always thought it was called beat detective... XD THE LONG SEARCH IS OVER HAHA!!! MY LIFE IS SUNSHINE AND RAINBOWS!
Great.
Ty man for help!!!))
Reaper needs a Smart Tempo tool like Logic
I've used Reaper before ❤
nice thanks :)