There was something similar to this "2 different crews in a booth thing" that happened in my birth year of 2003.... Look up the qualifying session for the 2003 Pop Secret 400, and you can see a thumbnail of 5 or so guys in 1 booth. 3 came from Fox's SPEED, who carried the qualifying session for the NASCAR Busch Series race, and 2 came from TNT, who had qualifying for the Pop Secret 400 at Rockingham for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series. The Busch qualifying session ran longer than expected, so Steve Byrnes, Jeff Hammond, and Larry Mac (SPEED) had a nice chat with Allen Bestwick and Benny Parsons (TNT) as the last Busch car qualified for their race. Then, after a few minutes and a commercial break, Metallica's Fuel hits, and it's all TNT from there with Cup Series Qualifying.
@@AntoRetroGamer OJ Brigance won a Super Bowl and a Grey Cup playing for the same city, he also won one Super Bowl Ring as personnel for the Ravens in Super 47.
I remember the semi finals in Baltimore used the CBC feed with a studio show before and after the game on Channel 2 here, instead of traveling up there. The team was known by the network announcers as the "Baltimore CFLers".
The Stallions were the one bright spot of the CFL's Southern expansion experiment, depending on how you view it; in the two years of their existence they made it to the Grey Cup both times and were the only non-Canadian team to win it in '95. Who knows what would've happened if we hadn't gotten the Browns to move here and become the Ravens...
I think the CFL was wrong to give up on the USA so quickly. I hope they reconsider coming back here. There are plenty of markets that I am sure would welcome a CFL team with open arms. They should look into markets with no professional teams or ones with no NFL team (cities like New York, Chicago, and LA could be exceptions to this rule). The CFL was never trying to compete with the NFL, they were offering good quality football played at a professional level to untapped markets not on the map.
I think one of the problems with putting CFL in the U.S. is that its schedule crosses into the first half of the NFL and college football's season which could make it hard to keep the casual audience's attention during those final months of the CFL.
The 'Big Three' American cities are never going to work with a gluttony of sports teams in their respective markets. College football would kill most potential markets in the home-stretch of the CFL season anyway. A better bet would be to hold an additional pre-season game in medium-sized American markets reasonably close to the Canadian border.
Most of the US Cities could not fit an regulation CFL field in their stadiums. Memphis's end zones averaged 12 yards instead of 20. Only San Antonio and maybe Baltimore had the regulation 20 yards. Most were 15. That watered down the passing game near the endzone.
@@rockvilleraven I attended one game in August 1995 in Memorial Stadium, and it had 110 yards between the goal lines, 15 yards between the goal and deadline, and the goals were 5 yards behind the goal lines. Regulation width, though. The preliminary games were Rugby League 10s between nearby clubs and 13s between national sides of the USA and Canada.
I miss the late Don Wittman. What a smooth voice. He gave great advice to the then US CFL teams that failed to heed that astute wisdom. The CFL US expansion was a good idea, but poorly executed. Once Halifax gets their team. I think the CFL will revisit the US later on
CFL American expansion was a smart idea that was executed horribly going into the wrong markets like Shreveport and not having the right managements and marketing the CFL in America very well.
I remember the Gilderman's lost a ton of money in Sherveport, where they were so cheap I heard the mascot doubled as a trainer. The owner tried to outrun the law in a classic Tucker he owned which ran out of gas. Jimmy Swaggart had season tickets that year.
@oilers000 It was surpirsingly succesful actually and helped spur the return of an NFL franchise to Baltimore, thats why the Ravens were awarded to such a passionate fan base, obviously the CFL wouldn't survive with an NFL team in the same market so the Stallions moved to Montreal. The San Antonio Texans were the only other team to have even limited success as an American CFL franchise but the owner didn't want to be the only American team in the league so they folded as soon as Baltimore moved
yep and that's why they have the Houston Texans.. It was all too rushed. Birmingham might have worked but they couldn't win a game. Sacramento didn't start with a real building. It was a tiny place with the put them up extra seats. Hornet field I believe, the idea was to expand it and make a real stadium.
Distinguished career ha that can't be compared to willi machinist or teddy bruschi mike vrable and Ed Rees or Rey Lewis for that matter and what I would give to see a cfl team play ohhh I dont know the patriots or the Indianapolis colts from the nfl.
There was something similar to this "2 different crews in a booth thing" that happened in my birth year of 2003.... Look up the qualifying session for the 2003 Pop Secret 400, and you can see a thumbnail of 5 or so guys in 1 booth. 3 came from Fox's SPEED, who carried the qualifying session for the NASCAR Busch Series race, and 2 came from TNT, who had qualifying for the Pop Secret 400 at Rockingham for the NASCAR Winston Cup Series. The Busch qualifying session ran longer than expected, so Steve Byrnes, Jeff Hammond, and Larry Mac (SPEED) had a nice chat with Allen Bestwick and Benny Parsons (TNT) as the last Busch car qualified for their race. Then, after a few minutes and a commercial break, Metallica's Fuel hits, and it's all TNT from there with Cup Series Qualifying.
Baltimores a great football town, Superbowl and Grey Cup winners. no other city will ever hold that distinction.
The Baltimore Stars managed to win the USFL Championship too.
@@AntoRetroGamer OJ Brigance won a Super Bowl and a Grey Cup playing for the same city, he also won one Super Bowl Ring as personnel for the Ravens in Super 47.
Hey, all of us up here were rooting for you guys this superbowl because the Baltimore fans supported the CFL.
wow thanks this is history never to be forgotten. as a skins fan and alouettes fan too the stallions will always have a place in my heart
NFL titles 58 59 68 71 01 13 CFL 95 USFL 85
I've watched CFL (and NHL) on that Channel 9 Gus was talking about, it's out of Windsor. Ontario and could pick it up here in Ohio occasionally.
Loved the CFL in Baltimore.
If it weren't for the CFL in Baltimore, I doubt the Ravens would have come here.
2:47 some advice that Gus has never forgotten.
suprise no one has the live game tape where Baltimore won the grey cup in old Memorial stadium in 95....
North meets South. I miss the CFL during this era. It's a shame that expansion didn't work oot ;)
a lot of John Candy in the background LOL
I remember the semi finals in Baltimore used the CBC feed with a studio show before and after the game on Channel 2 here, instead of traveling up there. The team was known by the network announcers as the "Baltimore CFLers".
The Stallions were the one bright spot of the CFL's Southern expansion experiment, depending on how you view it; in the two years of their existence they made it to the Grey Cup both times and were the only non-Canadian team to win it in '95.
Who knows what would've happened if we hadn't gotten the Browns to move here and become the Ravens...
Baltimore was originally awarded the Grey Cup in 1997.
Baltimore was dying for the return of Pro Football
Wow, Gus Johnson and Scott Oake look so young.
Will never ever root for the Ravens, because of what they did to mess up a successful American team presence in the CFL at the time.
I think the CFL was wrong to give up on the USA so quickly. I hope they reconsider coming back here. There are plenty of markets that I am sure would welcome a CFL team with open arms. They should look into markets with no professional teams or ones with no NFL team (cities like New York, Chicago, and LA could be exceptions to this rule). The CFL was never trying to compete with the NFL, they were offering good quality football played at a professional level to untapped markets not on the map.
I think one of the problems with putting CFL in the U.S. is that its schedule crosses into the first half of the NFL and college football's season which could make it hard to keep the casual audience's attention during those final months of the CFL.
The 'Big Three' American cities are never going to work with a gluttony of sports teams in their respective markets. College football would kill most potential markets in the home-stretch of the CFL season anyway.
A better bet would be to hold an additional pre-season game in medium-sized American markets reasonably close to the Canadian border.
Most of the US Cities could not fit an regulation CFL field in their stadiums. Memphis's end zones averaged 12 yards instead of 20. Only San Antonio and maybe Baltimore had the regulation 20 yards. Most were 15. That watered down the passing game near the endzone.
@@rockvilleraven I attended one game in August 1995 in Memorial Stadium, and it had 110 yards between the goal lines, 15 yards between the goal and deadline, and the goals were 5 yards behind the goal lines. Regulation width, though.
The preliminary games were Rugby League 10s between nearby clubs and 13s between national sides of the USA and Canada.
rip Mr Wittman
I miss the late Don Wittman. What a smooth voice. He gave great advice to the then US CFL teams that failed to heed that astute wisdom. The CFL US expansion was a good idea, but poorly executed. Once Halifax gets their team. I think the CFL will revisit the US later on
If or when Halifax gets the CFL in their city, I'm hoping the CFL will expand the playoffs to 8 teams to create a proper post-season tournament. =P
Nice rug Kepley!
Dam Gus Johnson looks young man
CFL American expansion was a smart idea that was executed horribly going into the wrong markets like Shreveport and not having the right managements and marketing the CFL in America very well.
I remember the Gilderman's lost a ton of money in Sherveport, where they were so cheap I heard the mascot doubled as a trainer. The owner tried to outrun the law in a classic Tucker he owned which ran out of gas. Jimmy Swaggart had season tickets that year.
@riccorich
The Stallions were a great team. Pringle, Ham, Wright, O.J. Brigance. Don Matthews. Beast team.
Old-School Gus Johnson For The Win!!!
i thought that Speros moved out on his own because he didn't wanna compete with the ravens...
Cause the Grey Cup was played in Regina, Saskatchewan
@oilers000 It was surpirsingly succesful actually and helped spur the return of an NFL franchise to Baltimore, thats why the Ravens were awarded to such a passionate fan base, obviously the CFL wouldn't survive with an NFL team in the same market so the Stallions moved to Montreal. The San Antonio Texans were the only other team to have even limited success as an American CFL franchise but the owner didn't want to be the only American team in the league so they folded as soon as Baltimore moved
yep and that's why they have the Houston Texans.. It was all too rushed. Birmingham might have worked but they couldn't win a game. Sacramento didn't start with a real building. It was a tiny place with the put them up extra seats. Hornet field I believe, the idea was to expand it and make a real stadium.
their talk of further expansion is comical considering none of these American teams panned out......bad idea!
Wtf Gus Johnson??
eXtreme fOnT!!!!!
Baltimore will gladly take back the CFL, if the Ratbirds will vacate the town. #GOSTEELERS #Stallions95
@NessMencesal yeah that's right, we all knew the Stallions were temporary........... so they didn't pan out son
@gcdcjccc Stallions did, the Ravens kicked them out
montreal might not have a team right now
Distinguished career ha that can't be compared to willi machinist or teddy bruschi mike vrable and Ed Rees or Rey Lewis for that matter and what I would give to see a cfl team play ohhh I dont know the patriots or the Indianapolis colts from the nfl.
and it failed