I asked a Brit, an Australian and an American about attitudes, beliefs, customs, and traditions
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- Опубликовано: 12 дек 2017
- Hello! Everyone!!
Before I even begin, I first wrote British(English?) but the title was too long so I had to write Brit.
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After reading through a lot of your comments, I think I need to clarify some things about this video. I created about 10 videos with a leading English language Institute in Korea about 2 years ago.
Sam, Bella, and John all worked for this institute at that time. I don't know if they still do. I have not kept in touch. I had not met them before shooting this video. I was basically told that a British, Australian and American teacher would be available for my video so I came up with questions I was curious about. I did not know John was homeschooled and if I had known, I would not have asked questions about the school system, of course.
It was my mistake of coming up with questions for people I didn't know.
So, please refrain from commenting negatively on John, Bella and Sam. I will make sure to carefully select for my next video. Thanks!
Go see part I of the series :
• 영국/호주/미국 문화 차이 1탄
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70-80 an A????? Wow Im living it the wrong country
No kidding! Back in my school days, if I'd come home with a 70, my parents would have been really angry with me.
A 70-79 in the US is a C. 90-100 is an A
The marking systems are different though. When my best friends came to the UK for a Masters degree, they genuinely cried the first time they received an essay back and it was low 70s (they were solid low-mid 90s students in the US). They were absolutely devastated, and wondering whether or not they’d gone in over their heads, and messaged me, crying. Actually the reality was they aced the essay.
@@inkymunich
Exactly
What she said is actually wrong its 90 for A 70-80 for B and 50- 60 is C and A+ is 95%.
I live in Australia and i am in 8th grade of high school so i know what the marking system is.
She didn’t mention on how we can drink at 18 LEGALLY...
Is that something to be proud of?
Is it really relevant or worth mentioning.
Also in Britain if your over 12 and your parents are the ones who give it to you, you are allowed to drink. You can also have some drinks (cider I think is an example) at the age of 16
Damn wish America was like that here you have to be 21 to drink but I think if we are old enough to die for are country we should be able to drink alcohol at 18
Matt Steer huh?? isnt it 21? here the age of consent is 16 but the drinking age is 21
@@kinga4771 definitely something to be proud of, get that sauce early pal, not young forever.
Same in the Bahamas 🇧🇸
Everybody sending hate to john did you listen carefully? At the start of his turn he said he was homeschooled so he didnt know that well.
It affects his pronunciation surprisingly. When he said he grew up in southern california and said "San Diego" in a previous video, he said it with a hard D and like really pronouncing it.
If you're from San Diego (where I grew up), you would say "sanny yay go". It's all condensed, never enunciated.
Exactly you idiot! You just made the point 😂😂😂😂😂he is a bad example of talking about school system when he was schooled in his house.
To which he semiconfidently started talking about something anyway, that he knew nothing about
ukkr Los Angeles means the angels in English
Well he was the wrong pick for that question
Can u guys not I think John was honestly a good representative like he tried his best and also America is a big country so many states have their own rules and stuff but as a Californian he did good also gosh bruh why are Americans so opinionated
You are very thoughtful...Thank you :)
They shouldn't have put the guy in there in the first place. The school thing is almost half of the video. Doesn't make sense. They might as well have put a foreigner in there to represent the U.S.
@@xiaobai7060 Except, to be fair, homeschooling is a pretty significant portion of American education, so...
As a New Yorker, I must interject. It’s “How YOU doing?” Not “HOW you doing?”. Emphasize the “you”.
I went to suny for college too. I would definately agree..
Are you Joey Tribbiani
_ Myeconn no but I used to live in the Bronx Little Italy
*Updated - Please Read!
After reading through a lot of your comments, I think I need to clarify some things about this video. I created about 10 videos with a leading English language Institute in Korea about 2 years ago.
Sam, Bella, and John all worked for this institute at that time. I don't know if they still do. I hadn't met them before shooting this video. I was basically told that a British, Australian and American teacher would be available for my video so I came up with questions I was curious about.
It was my mistake of coming up with questions for people I didn't know.
So, please refrain from commenting negatively on John, Bella and Sam.
I will make sure to carefully select for my next video. Thanks!
They did fine people just feel the need to moan and pick at things.
they did ok
I see a lot of criticism from Americans of John as the American panelist (in Part 1 it was mostly Australians criticizing Bella). I thought John did a fantastic job. I don't agree with everything he said but he's a young westerner and I'm an old southerner so we almost come from different countries and eras. He was well spoken, and polite Most importantly he suppressed either of those urges we Americans oft get around foreigners, i.e. to exaggerate our American brashness or to pander to foreigners and criticize the US in order to appear sophisticated.
I think he was a good representative.
I agree he's polite. But even from a southern Californian of the same generation, he's wrong about some things. He sounds pretty sheltered and doesn't represent the US all that well in this video. It would have been better if he just admitted he doesn't know some things.
malaria39
I can't place anything that he got factually wrong, just some questions of opinion such as things that bother Americans, and pickup lines. Maybe the school grading scale was a point or two variant compared to what I remember (90 for an A rather than 92 etc) but there are 50 state school systems and hundreds of geographical districts and special districts such as 'recovery districts' and charter schools, not to mention private and parochial schools and they likely aren't all on the same scale. Additionally he did preface his answer by saying that he wasn't necessarily the best person to answer as he was home schooled.
I don't know about sheltered. Seemed the opposite to me. He just didn't have the pop culture swagger that many kids adopt to fit in and that might seem sheltered to some folks but I found it refreshing. Looks to me like a young guy abroad, I assume working, in a foreign land is a tad less sheltered than most.
However I do think he wasn't typical by any means but atypical in a good way.
John did a horrible job because he didn't answer a lot of the questions correctly. He was home schooled so he didn't know anything about the school system. He also doesn't seem to know much about the US legal system either (you can't shoot someone simply for trespassing).
Leggo My Ego
Could your real objection just be that he was home schooled, a fact he readily revealed and certainly not a thing that is a negative in any stretch of the imagination? I don't think that his home schooling even necessarily rendered any of his school related dialog incorrect. It may have made him the polite, friendly individual that, frankly, more Americans could strive to be. Granted that since most younger folks in the US aren't as well spoken and clean cut as he, he may not have been typical of our sullen youth. In that case I am happy that he was our atypical representative.
Regarding shooting people who come into American's private property, in many US states (30) the Castle Doctrine, or 'stand your ground laws', do defacto allow Americans to shoot you if you come on to their property. There are usually other duties such as the duty to retreat mixed in but often those duties are forgotten by the homeowner out of the fear of the moment and abused.
California doesn't have such a direct Castle Doctrine law but Colorado does have a variation referred to as a 'make my day' law granting a large amount of immunity to home owners who think they are defending their homes.
The case of German exchange student Diren Dede who was shot and killed by a homeowner in Montana while trespassing in. 2015, made international headlines as it highlighted the cultural differences between the US and most of the industrialized western world when it came to perceptions of property rights and the number of guns. That Montana homeowner was found guilty of homicide due to having lured young Dede in by leaving his garage door open, an action intended to exact revenge on burglars who had broken into his home, however the homeowner no doubt mistakenly believed that he had immunity as it was part of his failed defense.
The point is that simple trespassing in the US can have far more serious consequences than abroad and in fact in many cases the property owner can shoot you or at least thinks he/she can shoot you. Granted John could have gone into a long winded explanation of every variation of Castle Doctrine or Make My Day type laws in every state but who knows all of them and it was a short video I think it was great that on the spot he thought of that huge difference and he may have given some truly helpful advice to non Americans listening when he said to stay off folks' property in the US. It was a far better cultural difference to warn foreigners of than would have been etiquette rules as it might actually save their very lives.
@@2011blueman You can shoot someone for trespassing in certain jurisdictions. Technically, trespassing alone is not enough (in any US jurisdiction), but many jurisdictions have some type of stand your ground laws that make justifying shooting trespassers fairly easy (ridiculously so).
He didn't know much about the school system, but that is not important. The US school system is fucked up. Super fucked up. There is no national standard. It is literally tens of thousands of separate districts based on their city, county, state, and federal laws. And then there's charter schools and private schools. The 60 70 80 90/D C B A system is not ubiquitous. And then there's those that follow Common Core vs those that do not. A shit show to say the least.
Edit: He covered it fairly accurately at first. Trespassing is illegal and people do get mad at solicitors. It is only when the interviewer asked about shooting people on your property...
0:38 did anybody else hear that? it sounded like a minecraft villager
Amethyst Velich lmao ur right
Amethyst Velich I CANT STOP LAUGHING HOLY SHIT HAHAAHHAH
I didn’t even notice that! Until I replayed it😂
Wtf I actually heard that I went on for like 15 seconds😂😂😂
That’s just john 😂
So the grading scale in the United States is 90 and up is an A, 80-89 is a B, 70-79 is a C, 60-69 is a D, and 59 and down is an F.
Really? I thought 92+ was an A.
러닝그라운드 yup. Ive been in both Private school and Public school. 90+ is an A.
93+ is an A actually. and 69 and down is an F
Sakura Blossom at what schools? Because all public education I've seen its 90+ A and 59 down F
Wolfgirl926 ah, maybe because i’ve attended private school my whole life? ;-; i envy your grading scales. 99-100 is A+ and it’s so hard
British College sounds like American Community Colleges.
The aspect where at 16 years of age you can decide. In the US that's called vocational schools. They're schools where you can learn a trade and typically some of them can get you into a job without college at the age of 18. Welding for instance as they typically make far more than most college graduates as well as others. I took drafting and design in my vocational school but it helps to understand that I still went to school, I just left for half of it to attend those schools.
The only issue I had was that I had Chemistry in 11th grade 5th period and Physics in 12th grade 5th period. I had to leave in the middle of class each time which means I had to work extra hard to pass those classes which for my program, I needed at minimal a 70% to pass.
Except that the British college is the most used option to get into university and almost all English universities now require some form of college education or you could do a foundation year at the specific university.
@@nims8442 You mean the English college. In Scotland, most people don't go to college, they stay at secondary school, and college is normally for school drop outs.
Yeah, at my school you had an option where in 10th grade (basically 3 years until you graduate in 12th) you can go to a vocational school for half the day where you can learn a trade like construction, culinary arts, or veterinary tech, then get a certification by the end of highschool that lets you go straight into the workforce.
It doesn’t help you much with university, though, beyond giving you a headstart on the subjects you might learn in the same major. For university there’s something called “dual enrollment,” where you go to Highschool normally, but take Community College classes too, so you can get credits to transfer over the your university, and possibly graduate early, too.
More tech school
The only one that Immediately got into my head for America is
"Are you from Tennessee?
Because your the only 10 I see."🥁
Bu dum shh
Hopefully that's right on how to write it lol
Nice😂😂
In America
A: 90%
B: 80 to 89%
C: 70 to 79%
D: 60 to 69%
E aka fail: Below 59%
Positive behind the letter: 98 to 99/100
Only the letter: 94 to 97
Negative sign: 90 to 93
D is 65-69 in MA
F under 65
Some schools in the US are on a 7 point system with 93-100 being an A etc.
Sparkle Pink Where I’m at a 93-100 is an A a 90 would be a B
@@kees_hoe Both in Michigan and in Vegas!
At my school F is below a 70
We need John to stop talking about the us school system need another representative 😂😂
Firelord Azula sure, but someone who was home schooled and relying on what his friends who went to public school told him is probably not the best representative for people from the UK and Australia on a Korean youtube channel
Another issue is that your education, much like many other aspects of America, depends on which state you live in. America is massive compared to the U.K. and Australia. There are a lot of differences in many respects even across state lines.
Aussie Aussie Aussie oyy oyy oyy
So do the English 😳
Jasiah Gipson yes
English school system is very different from scottish system so saying “British” isn’t really correct
the university system too, i often feel watching these kinds of videos they should get a scottish person on as well or maybe welsh or irish because people assume english is just the standard
How is it different? I'm American and really wouldnt mind knowing.
Ivie Murphy in regards to high school. the courses are different (probably cover in general the same thing though); we sit completely different exams; we have a different year system and we take less subjects since our courses are slightly more in depth. cut offs for marks are dependent on the mean results of an exam so if people on average didn’t do so well then all of the grade boundaries will be lowered a percent or two. we also don’t have A* because it doesn’t matter to our uni. an A is just an A. usually the grade boundaries are-
75-100% A
65-75% B
55-65% C
25-55% fail
0-25% ungraded
but as i mentioned they can change from year to year, exam to exam.
in university, the standard length of a honours degree is 4years unless you have taken specific exams to skip a year. also, in scotland university tuition is free for scottish citizens.
Ivie Murphy You also usually take more exams in scottish high school. In england they sit GCSEs and A levels while in Scotland we sit National 5s, Highers and Advanced Highers
@@nickelcobalt98 thanku for explaining!
The Australian girl should of said high school not secondary
Hey it’s Kiahna 100%
It’s either
Eh. It annoyed me.
We call them secondary schools in Victoria, so I’d say she was right.
Zebyzz vic is one place of Australia almost everyone else calls it high school
I am a school administrator in America, so I’d like to provide some insight...
John is a poor representative for explaining our education system, but it would be impossible for any American to accurately do so. Educational systems are largely controlled by a mixture of the state governments and local school boards. The federal government, in the grand scheme of things, has very little to do with public education. The Department of Ed mostly handles civil rights situations. There have been some serious laws passed at the federal level - IDEA and NCLB for example - but overall public schools are primarily run by states and local townships. That is why there can be such a wild difference depending on where you live. Home schooling is another beast all together and its regulation, again, depends on which state you live in. None of this accounts for private, charter, or magnet schools either.
The University level of education is more universal, but again, it really depends on which school you attend.
To be fair he did say he is not the right person for this.
@@jesskhan09 very true it is quite annoying when people do not listen to what is being said. In my opinion, he made that pretty clear.
Funny reading comments like this tbh. He clearly said that he was homeschooled before answering the question. Lmao.
I don’t think anyone cares about this level of detail, I think he explained the overview well and he was a GOOD representative for it
He clearly said he was homeschooled and didn't go through the normal education system
We actually don’t use A* to U in England anymore since September 2016 we use 1-9 and it can get pretty confusing now as only one year has been marked with this grading.
Jakub Bledek yeah that fucked with me when my little/baby bro cane home saying that like what??
Paul Banks employers now will be like “what the f**k is a 9 I’ve never seen this before”
I can't wait for my GCSE results day to have to try and explain to my parents what the numbers mean, especially since they think a 1 is good lol
A* to U is still used in A-levels but A levels are now linear
actually the letter grading system is americanisms
I'm surprised neither Australia nor the US mentioned customs in the laws section. At least with Australia there's a lot of stuff you're not allowed to bring into the country, and most of the stuff you do have to be declared.
Oooooh.
I now understand why that Australian show I watched is called 'nothing to declare'
Lightning D0!t I have never heard of that show. Searched it up. I think you’re talking about Border Security Australia. If it is here I can’t find it.
Yes!!!!!
Not to mention the fruit bins on the borders between states. To toss any of your fruit so you don’t take them between borders.
"I think most places stay open later in Australia"
She obviously left before the Sydney lock out laws controversy lol
Everywhere in perth closes at 5:30
Miss Hisoka Paints omg finally someone from Perth 0-0
I'm pretty sure Victoria is the only state that doesn't have the lockout laws
@@icantthinkofanamesothisisi7814 yeah, some of their shopping centres open until 9pm on some days
@Jeri Brown some do, dont know about all though. dont really go to bars lmfao i'd rather wait until i got my blacks lol. sydney police would whoop my ass
This sounds like a start of a joke:
"A brit, and Australian and an American walk into a bar..."
if you wanna finish it be my guest
They all had a beer and chatted because we're all friends. The end.
Only two got drinks.
Americans: Drink weak, pissy-tasting beer.
Brits: Drink warm, beery-tasting piss.
Aussies: Drink anything with alcohol in it.
You've literally got the poorest representatives for each country 😂😂 everyone's complaining. (British seems fine tho). WE NEED A SWAP FOR AUSTRALIA! who's aussie and can agree? Im disappointed 😂
(U.S.) You make a good point. I'd suppose that these are people who have relocated to S.K for one profession or another, indicating they may have a unique background, and mindset, which perhaps make them a bit *A-typical* of their typical countrymen. I wouldn't say that I'm disappointed, but their perspectives may be a tad watered down.
Alicia Massey agreed. She is clueless
Yeah, she was quite off. Also, she’s from Melbourne so she can only speak on the Victorian education system cause every other state has their own rules and school systems.
She's gorgeous! If all austrialians are as beauty as her, i'm visiting.
Alicia Massey eh she’s not the worse but not the best
this British guy is so hot
exactlyyyyy!!! i wanna know his ig name!!!!
Eugene Singh sam
sam_hugg1 youre welcome
looks just like chris evans
Hunain Ghazi agree, everything about Britain he says is true so 😂😂 A*
Someone may have already explained this but the English school system is quite different, at least from my experience.
Firstly, most children attend nursery aged around 2-4 which is probably like pre kindergarten. We attend reception (Year 0 - kindergarten) aged 4-5 and then start true primary school during Year 1-6 aged 5-11. Afterwards, we go to secondary school Year 7-11 aged 11-16, where we learn a whole range of subjects up until Year 9. In Year 10, we choose subjects like history, computing, and art to study for their GCSEs (maths, English, science, one language subject like Spanish and religious studies are compulsory). Note: most of these subjects (and all compulsory ones) have been studied from Year 7-9 so students are choosing which ones to continue for their exams.
Secondly, the English grading system began changing from letters A*-U to numbers 9-1 in 2017. This was first implemented for maths and English grades (the other subjects like science and religious studies still used A-U until 2018). Exact equivalence is lengthy to type but is as follows: 9 = A*+/A*, 8 = A*-/A+, 7 = A/A-, 6 = B+/B, 5 = B-/C+, 4 = C/C-, 3 = D and I kind of forgot how it gets to U but anything below a 4 is a fail. A great pass = 5 and a good pass = 4.
Furthermore, for maths and science there was a higher tier and foundation tier. Higher tier went from 9-4 or A*-C (science was still letters) and foundation was 5-1 or C-U. Higher meant risking a U if we got a D but foundation meant limiting ourselves to a C when we may have gotten a B or higher. Either way 9-1 maths and English was really tough. It’s worth mentioning English had no tiers it was just one set and also English literature and English language were two different compulsory subjects.
Additionally, the final exam papers count for 80-100% of our final grade in England. 20% is coursework for some subjects like science but the rest is memorising 2 years worth of knowledge and hoping the right questions come up as we never know what specific topics will pop up within subjects. In just English literature alone, we had to remember two whole 19th century books, a Shakespeare play and around 14 poems. We also had one unseen poem and one unseen extract from a book for comparison questions. I had 9 subjects spread across 14 1hr30min exams in one month (others had even more). During secondary school, we do have mid term, end of term and other tests in between but they don’t count towards our grades it’s just to check our knowledge and understanding so we know what to improve on.
Moreover, the grade boundaries change every year and are only set after all of the exam papers are marked. Students are graded against each other to prevent everyone getting an A* if the exams were too easy or an E if they were too hard. This means there is not a specific percentage amount of marks needed for an A or above (it could be 85% or 92% no one ever knows beforehand). If every student does badly on an exam the grade boundaries are lowered and vice versa. We all just study hard and hope we were better than the rest.
In addition, each school chooses a examboard for each subject. There are quite a few including AQA or Edexcel. Often times students have one examboard for science but a completely different one for maths and these examboards all have different standards for gaining marks. For instance, the definition of words may be varied across examboards and many times students lose marks for not uses the exact words written in the markschemes it can be harsh, especially 9-1 exams.
Since I didn’t know where to put this, PE (physical education) is a lesson throughout primary school to secondary school but not one you have exams on, unless you choose it as an option. In the latter case, you would have extra lessons plus ordinary PE lessons.
Finally, after those dreadful exams are done students either go to sixth form or college or an apprenticeship program for 2--3 years as we’re required by law to stay in education until 18. Apprenticeships are kind of like a shortcut to jobs and college courses are more job oriented than sixthform A levels. With the latter, students choose 3 subjects to study in-depth for 2 years and it somehow makes GCSEs look like primary school work. Then people go onto university but honestly I don’t know much about that yet.
All subjects are now graded 9-1 now and they’re all much harder so good luck guys but that’s just how it is.
So I'm an American that has been to 8 different schools in different states and they are all different. Some school have 8 classes a day, some have 7, some have 4 and they rotate a schedule so there are a days and b days with the first 4 and last 4 of your courses. I know some schools have an a and z say where your last and first period switch time slots. Some school have uniforms and strict dress codes some don't. Some schools you have to wear a lanyard with a name tag some don't. Some school have lunches in waves, or by grade some have the entire school with the same lunch. Also we have a standard learning curriculum but every school has different requirements for courses to graduate (well maybe depending on which of the 50 states you live in).
when they talked about the rubbish bins, it was really interesting because they were all sort of saying different things without realising it
on the topic of shooting trespassers in america, it is kind of ambiguous depending on the state you live in. generally, if someone is on your property and is not posing any real threat or danger to you, you do not have the right to just outright shoot them. shooting at a trespasser is always a legal gamble and the legality of such actions is incredibly state-specific and fact-specific. so unless you plan on breaking and entering into a home illegally and posing a dangerous threat to the people who live there, this VERY rarely ever pertains to you.
Until you lawyer up with a 'stand your ground' statute. While those will vary state to state, when one party is dead it's difficult to dispute.
You're right but what's the use of disputing if one party is already dead?
I see your point, but the idea is that the deceased persons family might seek a more thorough investigation. Assuming an investigation found conflicting information, some sort of repercussions either civil or criminal might be sought. The problem is these statutes can make even a warranted judicial penalty all the more difficult to pursue. On the other hand if you're implying that one person lay dead, killed by another, what is there to dispute about the guilt of the live person, this isn't quite how it works.
Laces yes, however we have a law that basically says your home is your castle and if someone invaded that property and you need to defend your home, your well within your rights.
@@faith1cheer With just cause. It kind of has to be ambiguous because you can't concretely define just cause. So it's for the court to decide where your particular case resides.
I don’t think we really have an “A system” in Australia, at least from memory in primary school it was usually graded out of something (eg. 9/10) and then percentages or “out of” in high school and at uni there’s High Distinction (85-90 I think), Distinction, Credit, Pass and Fail (anything below 50)
queen sansa I don’t know what state you’re in but in QLD we had the “A system” in high school that was mainly based on percentages however in Uni, it’s pass, credit, distinction, high distinction.
@@chimcham6762
Here in Victoria we have fail, competent, good, very good, excellent and outstanding. The percentages full under those marks. 45% and under is a fail.
Depends on the state you're in - but I know SA has changed the specifics of its grading system multiple times over the past decade. Currently, in high school they mark things mostly by the 'rubric' - a series of statements about the content/answers/requirements for an assessment task and how well the teacher or moderator believes you've achieved this. They often also use a point-based mechanism to give a rough estimate of your score on a test. Before this, they went by a point-based system that gave a score out of 15 (E- to A+). Before that it wasn't neatly divided equally between each value - I believe (its been a while) that to get in the A band you needed 85 or more - to get a B it was 70 or more, to get a C 45 or more.
Don't know about the other states.
@@foxxy2583 I'm in Vic and my primary school had percentages, my high school had percentages, an A-system and distinction-fail depending on the class lol, it was a bit everywhere, and for us anything under 40% was a fail
At my children's Primary (91-2004), Results were graded 1-5 for achievement and 1-5 for application. 1 was top, 5 was bottom.
In the U.K. you can’t put definite boundaries for grades since they are dynamic. Instead of exam boards worrying if the papers they set are consistently difficult for a fixed set of grade boundaries, they just move the boundaries instead. This way the average of the entire country is usually set as a C, and then it’s roughly +/- 10% per grade boundary.
This system meant that when I sat my GCSE maths it gave these grade boundaries:
77%+: A*
66%: A
55%: B
45%: C
37%: D
32%: E
25%: F
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School is actually different in every state of Australia. The cutoffs are different. In NSW the cutoff for an E (equivalent of an F) is 20-40%
Cutoff here in victoria is 39% iirc
Y’all the cutoff where I live is a 69%💀
park chaeyoung's a wifey That doesn’t even make sense you can therefore pass a class with only 20-40 percent on the required knowledge tested out correctly. Imagine having a doctor who only knew 20% of a surgery. Lol
In America if you don’t have above an 80% you are a very below average student and need tutoring and to study a lot more. If you’re not aiming for at least a 90% in America you’re probably someone who doesn’t care too much about school. Of course not everyone gets a 90% but that’s the minimum goal for a lot of people who actually care about their education.
For anyone who doesn’t understand that means acquiring and scoring correctly (through various assignments, quizzes, and tests)at least 90% of the information you learn.
On another note you can pass a class in most places at a 60% any less and you fail the course. That is the very minimum.
Do other countries have GPA? If you don’t it’s basically a system where every final grade you have ever gotten in averages out into a number system typically 0-4. Any A being worth a 4, B worth a 3, C worth a 2, and D a 1. (Advanced classes are typically worth a 5.) Anyway this number follows you through each section of your schooling and resets when you start a new section (ie. middle school, high school, college, university). This is another reason why mediocrity in a single class is not accepted. It brings your overall average down and can affect your ability to get into better higher education.
Yes. It depends on which state you're in.
The cutoff where I am is 59.98.
australia school system
PRESCHOOL (not pre-kinder)
then primary school
then HIGH SCHOOL (not secondary) where u can drop out in yr 10 or keep going to yr 12
there’s no A/B/C usually, there’s just a number but sometimes they classify in A/B etc
under 50% is fail
No,no,no. It goes like this.
Pre-school
Infants (Kindergarten to 2nd class- about ages 6 to 8)
Primary (3rd class to 6th class - about ages 9 - 12)
High School (Year 7 to year 10 with an option to continue to years 11 & 12 - about ages 13 to 16 options until 18)
College (Kind of like trades school. Can do anytime if you get a trades based apprenticeship usually though after year 10)
University ( Need to successfully complete year 12 and get a score which will allow you to do the degree you wish.
Jerky, what are you on about?
copycats world exactly
JerkyJ what no
@ copycats world @ annasaurus: Why? Whats the issue here?
Q1: What is the school system like in your country
UK: Separated Into Two Blocks
AU: Prrty much the same as the UK
America: *PEW PEW*
Ryan Müser hahaha kids death is so funny HaHahAhHaa 😂😂😂😂😭😭😂
@@user-fq3co9wh9d Yeah I know
That's fcked up and not true.
And you literally got people blowing the legs off and apart little kids at Araina Grade concert and running people over with vehicles and weekly stabbing attacks
@Mia C ‘twas naught but a joke
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앞으로 콘텐츠 자주 자주 올릴께요 :)
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Они же в Корее :) а там все так :)
Love this video ! Really interesting questions and fun to see their cultural backgrounds!
Thanks Baris!
We should do something like this!!
I think sam John and Bella should create their own official RUclips channel. I'm having so much fun with you guys
Why don’t you dm them? Their id is at the description
러닝그라운드 I couldn’t find their IDs in the description.
you can tell the american dude was home schooled lmao
why? cause he was intelligent?
Sometimes I feel like watching Momo Twice speaking English when Bella starts explaining things. ☺️
I CANT BELIEVE JOHN DIDNT SAY THE CLICHE “are you from Tennessee because your the only TEN I SEE” whaaat
The Australian grading system isn’t right btw. Australia has just adopted a national curriculum but because some many states have different tertiary entry results assessment and grading is quite state specific. What she mentioned is relevant to university not high school. And primary school is different again!
There is no such thing as a UK school system. It's different in Scotland to the rest of the UK, and there are also some differences between Northern Ireland and England & Wales. The UK is really like a number of different countries in one. And in Scotland, university degree in Scotland are four years, not three, and most masters are not just one year.
Was so glad for someone to ecplain the English school system, I just was always confused by the terms college and university as usec by young people in the UK
This is actually quite interesting to watch!
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Clarification for the British School System:
Primary Education - Infant School
< 4 yrs (Nursery)
4-5 yrs (Reception)
5-7 yrs (Year 1 and 2)
Primary Education - Junior School
7-11 yrs (Years 3-6)
Secondary Education - Secondary School
11-16 yrs (Years 7-11)
GCSEs (age 16 exams)
Further Education - College / Continue S. School
Option to continue at secondary school for 2 years or go to a college for 2 years.
Option to study 3-5 academic subjects (A Levels) e.g. Maths or learn a pracrical trade (BTech) e.g. Engineering.
Finish college at age 18.
Higher Education - University / Continue College
Academics study one subject (e.g. Maths)
2 years - Associates Degree
3 years - Bachelor's Degree
+1 year - Masters Degree
+3 years - PhD.
Tradespeople study one subject
? yrs - Certificate
? yrs - Diploma
But there is also an option called an apprenticeship - "work while you study" (e.g. for practical trades like engineering). So you work 4 days a week and go to college 1 day a week. You can get 6 years of work experience by the time you finish your degree at age 22-24!
Where is John from? I don’t know anywhere in the U.S. you can be seriously fined for punished for littering. There are local ordinances but they are never enforced. I have never seen anyone scolded let alone fined for littering in a public area. (A private business or area such as a shopping mall could be another matter.) The only thing that keeps me from littering is my own values and conscience, certainly not fear of sanctions, whether personal disapproval or legal punishment. In fact, many visitors from other developed countries find the U.S. to be heavily littered and "dirty."
Anglo American, it was a rhetorical question, but thanks, I had missed that. I appreciate your ear for detail.
Umm... in Asia people throw everything on the ground and spit everywhere. I think he was trying to tell the Koreans you can't throw everything on the ground.
Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Not a single soul:
John: AHHH
Huh?
The school system in the UK is different between countries. Scotland, England, N. Ireland and Wales all have their own system, so you can’t really use that.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Bella is single
So are you. :}
I really want to visit America. I'm British and love your vids
watching all the videos to see and hear more from sam - love his voice and face :D
The thing about the education system in the US is that it can vary wildly. There are certainly national requirements for just about all schools (barring a few special exceptions), but depending on the state, city, county, or even specific school district, the way the school is set up can be hugely different. For instance, the most common grading scale is 90+ is an A (with 90-93 being A-, and above 98 being A+), and 59 and below is an F, with a D and an F being considered failing, but then other places might have a 93 and above being an A, with a 91 being a B. Some schools don't use the Plus or Minus system, and some actually give different Grade Points for pluses or minuses (normally an A in general is a 4.0, but an A- might be a 3.7 in some systems).
Similarly, I had friends across the country who all had different times they attended school. One of my friends who lived in Georgia had a system where he didn't have summer breaks, but every month there was a 1 week long break, and my school district in the Midwest had a slightly longer year, but more frequent breaks, longer breaks, and regular half days (with early release and late starts happening 2 to 5 times a month).
Not to mention, just as the style of the system can change drastically, the quality of the teaching can also change drastically depending on where you are, with my school district being considered one of the best and also fastest growing at the time I attended school, and our school having pretty large sums of money to play with, but then you can get states such as I believe Alabama or Louisiana (I don't keep up with this too much), where teachers and classes are severely underfunded, and the education can get a bit backwards.
California's public education is generally considered to not be the greatest, for example, whereas the easy coast is generally a bit better (from what I remember, it may have changed since).
From my experiences as well, teachers in general tended to be a bit more lax than what I heard from friends in other countries, and we were often able to get away with screwing around a lot in class, and being on very friendly terms with our teachers. Many of my teachers I had in public school tried their best to fill the role of a parent away from home, while also being a friend everyone could talk to, and just overall my schools were very laid back and friendly.
I've been trying to work out why the British guy seems so familiar! I just realised it's because he speaks a bit like Chris Martin!
Come to think of it, you’re right!
Tbf to the uk system for school, to get 70% is generally quite difficult. If it were easy, we’d all be geniuses who get into top unis, plus unis look at bands which (as far as I’m aware) a band 1 is usually around 85%. Additionally (at least in Scotland) the system keeps changing so the exams are getting longer and things keep getting put in and pulled out so there’s no certainty of what you’ll see on the day
I kinda find if funny looking at all the variations of the schooling systems we have in Australia, Each state seems to change it a decent amount.
For me in NSW its graded A B C D E and our grades (like what percent is needed for an A or B) is decided off the average mark.
Also the schooling I remember is Preschool (basically social skills, basic item usage and listening skills), Primary school (mine included kindergarten which is just all the basics and getting you read for harder work, This goes Kindergarten, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) High school (You start getting into much harder work and have a bit more freedom on subjects. This goes 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. You have the option to drop out at year 10 IF the school deems you are ready to do so, You need an apprenticeship or something like that to do so)
After year 12 you can get into Uni (university) depending on your HSC results or go to TAFE. Note these are not needed and are optional, Some people can just do courses that don't even give a HSC result or test.
When the question ’are all British people sarcastic?’ I was just like well I'm basically a British queen and I'm hella sarcastic soooi
My favourite sarcastic line is "No shit, Sherlock" or like "Naaaah I thought it was a (something irrelevant)"
I like "No, you don't say?"
American sarcasm is more discreet, it sounds like everyday conversation. It's really not noticeable.
british don't use the african-american saying "hella"
Oh god I hate those types of people
Now,in secondary schools,they do have plus and minus. Because we’ve changed and now we’re being marked on a 1-9 scale
Wow John you got off easy. My school system failed anything under 70, and I'm in the same country as you! Each school system really is different.
The thing is that sometimes these questions are hard to answer for U.S because there is so much diversity from just city to city. With the whole thing of America being freedom, it has allowed for groups of Americans to have different answers to these questions. Like the trespassing thing about shooting its more complicated than if you trespass you get shot.
American: Kindergarten is age 5 on average. 1st-5th grade is Elementary, 6-8th is Middle School, 9th-12th is High School. This is the Average. There are some school systems that are slightly different. 9th grade is Freshman, 10th grade is Sophomore, 11th grade is Junior and 12th grade is Senior. Grades: Based on getting 100%, 0%-59% is F, 60%-69% is D 70%-79% is C, 80%-89% is B, 90%-100% is A. Again, this is the average. some school systems may be slightly different. University or College is after you graduate high school. These schools are where you obtain various degrees. There are 4 major categories: associate, bachelor's, master's and doctoral degrees. Generally speaking associate is 2 years, bachelors is 4 years. Your Masters is completed after you have already completed your bachelors degree. The same works for your doctoral degree, you need to have your bachelors degree first. Now, the simplest difference between a Master's and Doctoral degree is the investment of time. A masters may take an extra two years after obtaining your bachelor's degree. Whereas your Doctoral degree usually requires 5-6 years on average. Plus with the doctoral degree you get to add Dr. to the beginning of your name. You also have trade schools or vocational schools that offer diplomas or certificates. These schools provide vocational education or technical skills required for a specific task.
In Scotland the school system is different than England.
Absolutely. I wish these sorts of video would stop spreading misinformation. The school and university systems in Scotland are as different, sometimes more different, from England's as any other country. There's no such thing as 'the UK school system'.
Strathpeffer Junction yep defos agree although we are part of the UK, certain topics must be researched info beforehand so that they can speak for either England or UK as a whole
Several have said that. I'm curious. Explain?
@@ItsJustMe0585 I'm not sure I understand. What do you need explaining? Scotland has a completely different education system to England, with a different structure, different curriculum, different exams etc. Is that what you mean? When most people talk about 'the UK' in these sorts of video, they tend to be talking about England, not 'the UK'. In many areas, there is no one, single UK way as the UK is a union of countries, not just one single country. Each constituent part can have significant differences - a different as any country elsewhere in some aspects.
K B we have many differences our entire education system is different, they are all provided by one person-SQA. Even other things are different we tend to just have one provided so we just have Scottish water for our water, scotrail for trains, small things like that.
UK here! England specifically. (Scottish school system is very different.) Many schools like mine do not have an option for sixth form so continuing in high school until 18. At 15/16 we had to leave school and choose to go to college and do A-levels which are needed for University or do an apprenticeship or specialised course!
the thing about the grading system in the U.S. is that it differs based on the school. generally, i'd say 95-100 is an A+, 90-94 is an A-, 85-89 is a B+, 84-80 is a B-, etc., but i've had it change based on the school i was at and what professors' guidelines were. i had a class where a 92 and up was an A (no A+), and i've also had classes where 89.5% was the cutoff for an A-. so it really depends on the school and the teacher.
the drinking culture also depends. i would say that a lot of Americans are good drinkers and often go out for drinks with coworkers and friends after work, but i also can't speak for specific communities in certain states. i'm a city person, so i've only experienced drinking and partying culture in NYC and DC, and they're pretty similar. generally people go out around 10 p.m, and come back about 1 or 2 a.m. i'm Korean too, and i've noticed that in Korea, people either go home at like 6 a.m or go out for Korean BBQ at 6 a.m and keep it going LOL.
Since New Zealand is a western country that gets over looked all the time I'll fill in the gap
Age 4-5 kindergarten
Age 5-11 primary (year 1-6)
Age 11-13 intermediate (year 7-8)
Ages 13-18 high school which we also call college (year 9-13)
I think in America college and high school are two different things.
We don't have the ranking system that goes like A, B... F unless if your doing Cambridge or IB, but you have to be super smart to do that or in uni. Most kiwi students do NCEA the ranking they have are:
N - not achieved
A - achieved
M - merit
E - excellence
There are no percentage to go with these mark it's more like how detailed and we'll executed the assignment/exam is written. Or if it's maths/science you will be given A, M and E type questions and how well you can answer them.
I can see why they didn't have a kiwi up there lol
US Grading
90-100 = A
85-89 = B+
80-84 = B
75-79 = C+
70 - 74 = C
60-69 = D
0-59 = F
The percentages might be one or two off, but this is pretty much the grading system.
97-100 A
93-96 A
90-92 A-
and so on
65 is the failing grade
In America, colleges and universities both exist and are two separate things. A college is actually within a university. A college is a specified school based on subject matter and then the university is comprised of all of the different colleges. So if you went to Michigan University and studied Engineering, you be in the engineering college at Michigan University
I don't know if anyone said it (in the comments) but the school systems here in America is basically like this:
- Day care (if you choose)
- Pre-k (if you choose)
- Kindergarten
- Elementary - Grades 1-5
- Middle- Grades 6-8
- Highschool- Grades 9-12
- College/University
The grades in Elem, Mid, and High is 90-100% A, 80-89% B, 70-79% C, 60-69% D, 0-50% F and ultimate 0% or not turned in is a Z. (Grades in Kinder and before are different--They use E for an A, G for a B, S for a C, M for a D, and U for a F)
I’m from Scotland and our education system is completely different from England
Totally. If only these videos would stop claiming there's one UK system for everything. There isn't. Scotland's always had an independent school and university system.
Absolutely
Australia-
A= 1 year and a half ahead of average
B= 6 months ahead of average
C= Average
D= below the standard expected
F= Fail
The Australian grading system was a little off. I'm in secondary school now, so trust me here:
UG (Ungraded) - 0-39
E - 40-44
E+ - 45-49
D - 50-54
D+ - 55-59
C - 60-64
C+ - 65-69
B - 70-74
B+ - 75 - 85
A - 86 - 93
A + - 93 - 100
I don't know whether Bella was wrong entirely; maybe the grading is done by state. Either way, this is Victoria's system at the very least :)
I do like the fact that each panelist spoke freely about what they thought about the subjects, yet I also realize that they are limited to their own experiences and not reflective of all people in their countries. A Londoner is not going to have the same outlook as someone in the countryside, or other cities in other areas (Wales, Scotland, N. Ireland). No American is allowed to shoot anyone on their property without cause - they must be threatening bodily harm or breaking into one's home itself, and the vast majority of gun owners never abuse their right to own or carry a gun, so there is no real threat of violence. Trespassing, if warned or told to leave and they refuse, will be called into the police for them to handle. Solicitors (people coming to your door to sell you something) will just be ignored or told to leave. Homeschooling is now common in America, and most of them do very well, especially in college. Seventeen of our Presidents were homeschooled, including Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, and both Roosevelts. A University in the US is a collection of colleges, like Engineering or Humanities, and different levels of degrees like Masters and Doctorates. American John graduated from a University with the four-year degree called a Bachelors: his was in Political Science.
Bella is fricking cute..... 😍
What about the Irish Goodbye? In Britain it’s just when your out drinking with your mates and one of them is just gone, and you don’t see them until tomorrow. Basically you get so drunk you just think to yourself, “yeah I’m going home now” and you just leave without letting your mates know.
You could do a whole series of these shows with the differences in culture/words with the people from different states in the U.S. Like here in Oklahoma its college football, country cooking and we keep things cold in an ice-box (refrigerator to the rest of the country). Some places its pro sports, they start their cars with "kakis" and their tea is unsweet (or as we say, unamerican).
당신은! 많은 영어쏙에섷 한그를 찾아쏘요💜💜
Feel like this was google translated. Am I right?
러닝그라운드 hi 👋 i mean "You found Hangul among many comments. 💜" thx💋
actually when you ask whats considered an A+, it really just depends on the school district. in my school an A+ is 98% or higher. some schools dont even use the + sign oo the letter grade.
I’ve studied in Australia and China and in China A is when you get two questions wrong and A+ is full marks the C is 80 F is 60
In the States you can stop at age 16 as well. Some people just get what is called GED "General Educational Development", diploma which is required for many jobs. Some people go to a "Trade school". Which sounds similar to the British system except that it typical for, well, trades. Welding, mechanics, plumbers, etc. Not so much art programs.
Aussie Primary School is 5-11, and Secondary is 11-17 in ages.
Queensland used to do 5-12 and 12-17, but they changed in 2015.
15 year olds or completion of Grade 10 for those who moved up a grade is where people can drop out.
TAFE is considered Tertiary, but can be done at the same time as secondary school.
Really TAFE is just for basic certificates and work qualifications, but University is a whole different system for advanced qualifications and all that.
But now in the UK, but i think only in england, grades are now from 1-9 during gcse and i think a-level as well
Wow
Neko benchwarmer
A-levels are still the letters. It's only GCSE that changed, for some reason
In the U.K. there is no A-F it’s now all 9-1 then for degrees you can have a 1st, a 2:1, or a 2:2
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The Grading System in America (or at least NC) Changed to the 10 point system. A:90-100, B:80-89, C: 70-79, D:60-69, F: Below 60. The original 7 point system was Grades like this; A: 93-100, B: 85-92, C: 77-84, D: 70-77, F: Below 70. I am very Greatful for this system because I never remembered or even knew the grading scale was called the 7 point Grading Scale. This would move me from a CB student to an AB
UK's college sounds more like for the "elites" that already know what their doing, and then we aussies have TAFE, which is more for people that just want to get into the workforce quicker or can't get through secondary school (more the latter).
Starsky In England, it’s a legal requirement that you either go to college or get an apprenticeship so it’s not really just for the “elites”
Ok this maybe HIS version of America... but I can tell y’all this is “California” and that state is like a country of its own. This guy honestly knows very little about America outside of the western part of the country. In America you have the South, the North and the West. All 3 very VERY different
Yeah, and even in California, it's a major difference between SoCal, NorCal, the valley, then the actual North... :P the US is too big, too diverse, and unless you're well traveled, you're going to be poor at explaining things.
I've lived in Texas, and California, and traveled the Midwest and East coast, quite a lot. Pretty much everywhere but the deep South... But I want to!!
Midgetelf0585 as a New Yorker the Deep South scares me
"Hey" is a pick up line in some places. Just, "hey." It depends on the people, which subculture they're in, what apps they're on, what age group they're in...it really varies. John seems like a nice wholesome man. So for him, just walking up and talking probably works at homeschool coops and maybe at University...maybe.
Trespassing is illegal in America but technically not the case in England. Trespassing becomes illegal in England when it becomes aggravated trespassing, but technically not illegal to trespass.
The British grading system was incorrect. The grade boundary changes every year as the government decide the % to get certain grades so only a certain amount of students will receive A’s, A*’s. Also GCSEs aren’t the same as SATs. GCSEs are 100% exam based, no multiple choice and all essay style. Your final grade in England is only based on your exam, no pop quizzes, homework, extra credit, or influence from your teacher is included.
I'm more surprised at the grade system difference for what constitutes an A. Damn I went to school in the wrong country. I would've never failed if the mark for an F was around a 45 and sitting pretty with my 85 A. I'm more surprised that UK or AUS aren't more strict. Then again the subject/content may be more difficult or presented in a manner that is more difficult to comprehend.
yeah from what I remember the test material was definitely harder in the English-curriculum schools. But that didn't mean the material for the U.S. schools were much easier. I personally preferred the U.K. system
learninground ah I see. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed the segment especially because it wasn't just the different pronunciation or vernacular but also the cultural differences. It'd be nice ton have a segment with them again
Mind you that 85 may seem easy to achieve but it depends on the curriculum...we’ve had American exchange students that were A students but when they came, they struggled with the curriculum. When they did our grade 10 French curriculum or Math, they found it so hard cause they said that they don’t cover it until senior. For example we did advanced calculus in grade 10...but then again that depends on the school system you went to (e.g. private or public) and I am assuming it’s similar in the US.
American here. This is typical: 90+ is an A, 80-89 is B, 70-79 is C, 65-69 is D, and 64- is F. That was typical from the mid 1990's until 2007. It may have changed, I don't know.
Don't know about below university level, but in the UK 70 is the treshold for for an A ("first") in uni. The trick is that getting an 80 is the equivalent of getting 100% for some reason. I think I've met one person who once got 88 for a course and that's because it was an intermediate level language course and they were practically native lmao
TAFE is an acronym. It stands for technical and further education. And high school, or secondary school.
Such as in NSW, you finish year 10 with the School Certificate (SC), or finish in year 12 with the Higher School Certificate (HSC). Other states have other terms for it though.
School in America-Note that i live in Texas and only in 6th grade this is how my school district does things, I know people that live by me that go to a different district and do things differently.There is pre-k (the same as pre kindergarten, but you don't have to do it. Then there is elementary school which is from kindergarten(age 4 or 5) to 5th grade (age 10 or 11). starting in 3rd grade at the end of the year there is a test called the STAAR test. I think in other states they call it something else. After 5th grade is middle school starting in 6th (11or 12)to 8th (13 or 14). In middle school I have 8 periods (different classes). My schedule would look like
Ela, elective ,study haul, math, elective, science, p.e/gym, & social studies.we have 4 minutes to get to each class.eack class is about 43 minutes long For me in ela we have a block period 2 classes back to back but I know that 7 and 8 grade doesn't do that. After 8th grade there is high school 9th grade to 12th grade. The classes work the same as middle school but there are only 7 periods. I think you can drop out at 16 but it is really hard to. After high school you have the choice to go to college. In order to get an A you have to have a 90 -100. To fail you would have to get less than a 70.
Would have been even more interesting were Canada included in this.
i want to spend time with this guys ....and just talk.
The school system in Australia is different from state to state. For example, in Tasmania, ours goes Pre-school, Primary (K-6), Highschool (7-10), College (11-12), then further such as Uni or TAFE. Some highschools do go to year 12, but they're usually private.
Our grades work sort of like this. 0-20 (E), 21-44 (D), 45-69 (C), 70-84 (B), 85-100 (A).
We do use the plus/minus system, but that depends on the teachers preference.
In college, the system then changes again.
The numbers are still similar, just the meaning of the grade and what is used to represent them change. E is replaced with a Z, and D is replaced with a T. Getting a Z in college is bad, like very bad. You can manage to lift it up to something better, but you need to do it in your own time. To explain why it's bad, is that you can have nothing but A's in the marking criteria but have one Z. You would instantly fail that class.
Also, when it comes to uniform, all public schools from Primary to Highschool have to wear uniform, those in College or higher don't, unless required by a specific class, such as athlete development.
Also, forgot to add in. Here, it's compulsory to attend school till year 10, then you must do either 1 of 3 things.
1. Get a job
2. Get an apprenticeship/traineeship
3. Continue onto college.
Of course, homeschooling is still allowed, but they also must follow those 3 things once they finish the year 10 homeschooling curriculum.
I live in England, and where I live there is a three tier system, so first school (years 1-4), middle school (years 5-8) and high school (years 9-11/13). Before year 1 I would have gone to reception, except I didn’t because I lived in Scotland then where they don’t do reception, just playgroup, nursery and then straight into year one.
In my secondary school in Victoria, Australia below 40% is a fail but in private schools it’s 50% and where I am an A is 85% plus
And you pay 20,000 dollars to go to a private school.....
The grades to get A’s May be lower in the uk but it’s harder to get the higher grades over here. There’s multiple cases of Americans who got mid 90s in American tests coming over and getting in the 70-80s in the uk.
I think there's a noticeable Korean influence on the stylings chosen by Bella and John. Sam has found a compromise that probably works well in both London and Seoul. Not a criticism, just an observation. I think it's understandable for someone who chooses to work in Korea to have some interest in Korean style.
I pretty much agree with everything Bella said but we call pre-kindergarten preschool and then there is kindergarten after that. Or at least it used to be.