Also counting The 2020 ring as a legit ring is fine. Just also count all of Bill Russell's rings instead of stating he played against lesser competition.
Well, Russell played with 6 HOFs in his team where was only 15 teams, u needed to win just 2 play-off series to get a championship. And Boston's only real problem was Wilt and nobody else. How many championships Boston won since Russell retired? I guess even Detroit pistons won more than Boston. This is why u can't compare his rings to the rings of post-russell era. Let alone than what kind of accolades Russell had besides His championships? P.S. Bill Russell is not even a top 10 player anymore. There were much more players more talented and better than Russell has ever been with more accolades and who managed to win rings with less help and more competitive eras (but u can't say it cuz old heads gonna be angry at u, probably some of them even did not see him play)
@@majesty1842other teams were in The playoffs were tuff too. If they weren't, Chamberlain would be dropping 50 on playoff teams but he didn't and he couldn't, why? Because playoff teams in the 60s were actually good and way better than the regular season fodder.
@@whoozyyyjust read the comment right before yours. People are stupid is the easy reason why they don’t count bill russels ring. The hard reason is they go thru whatever mental gymnastics they want to justify saying idiotic things like “ring culture is toxic.” They have the nerve to call us old heads when the only things they watch is who can make the deepest three and who gets this weeks participation trophy. And after the travesty that was embiid’s mvp, even that should be considered a participation trophy at this point, at least until the players start getting hungry for rings like they should be.
@@ghostflame9211 well, dude I'm not counting only rings since 2010. It's easy to call an idiot the person who says facts u can't agree with. I'm not hating I'm speaking facts if can't accept that it's your problem
I think the whole "hardest championship ever" rant from Lebron stems from the fear of not winning another ring ever again. The guy wants his rings to count for two or three.
As always LeBron created troubles for himself by praising himself. He should have just shut up and celebrate his 4th ring instead of calling this chip run "the hardest one" when it wasn't. Bron would have much less haters if was humble and could shut his mouth up when it's needed
And to make matters worse, Bronsexuals will insult and belittle other all-time greats in order to artificially raise LeBron to #2 all time or even call him "goat" seriously. Dude has the worst finals winning % of anyone considered top-10 All Time, and he needed to play with the most All-Stars to do that (!) - only to win less than MJ, Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Kareem and Russell. It's a travesty fueled by (for lack of a better term) _generational stupidity,_ is what it is.
Lol and to ask LeBron this question, if that ring was the hardest then what about the others?? That's means he should have never lost to Mavs in 2011. See he kills his argument and excuses. That means he should have beat the KD warriors. He contradicts himself.
@@peamut547 Herro is trash. He had one good play-off series vs Boston and since then he has never been good in postseason. He balling only in the regular season
We also ignore that (at the time) the defending champion Raptors were prohibited from playing a single playoff game in their own country. Injured or not - _is it any wonder that a Florida team made the Finals in the bubble year?_
@@majesty1842 I didn’t claim he was good, lol. I also dislike Herro and his style of play. I was just trying to refute the claim that the Heat were at full strength
Lakers got a magical 3pt shooting jump after the season resumed check the stats, also we’d see even worse slander if Jimmy, Giannis won their only ring during the bubble
The Lakers proved that they were the best team with everyone fit and healthy. But what does it say that 19/20, with a 4 month break, that was the only season LeBron and AD have stayed healthy throughout?? I think in a normal season, they would have sustained injuries that would have kept them from the chip.
@@lethalexponent6 they DID beat the Nuggets in 19/20. Denver had just come off of the first 2 rounds both going to 7 games AND coming back from 3-2 and 3-1, so they were shagged out by the time they faced the Lakers, unprepared to go that deep into the playoffs so early in Joker and Murray's careers with Jerami Grant for a #3.
Would love to see a Dynamo podcast. He has great takes and is creative with his words. Even though this channel is mainly catered towards sports fans, I feel Dynamo can bring different types of audiences to his platform with his level of creativity, thought provoking ideas, and his super friendly nature. Dynamo, keep it up! Thank you for your service.
Why thank you so much. I'm thrilled to hear this. I'd definitely be down with doing a podcast, and I'm so grateful to be able to entertain you all with NBA coverage. I can't wait to add more sports for you all.
Abso-freaking-lutely....she-iiiiit , Monsieur Dynamo could make _loads of denero_ running (even just a weekly) superchat. Much more potential there than Patreon. Think about it, my dudes: Soon CD will be at 20K subs. Even if only 1% of us watch and cough up a superchat donation it's something like , a $5 average donation x 200 peeps = $1000 in one stream. And this is a baseline, lowest estimate...I ain't even gonna mention what 50k or 100k+ subs can amount to. Imagine being in a position to earn an extra few $K a month for doing a few extra hours of streaming work every week. Now imagine squandering that opportunity.
Playoffs are about a series of home and away games. Makes a major difference when 20,000 fans are screaming against you under extreme pressure. Bubble ring simply don't count regardless of the winners
Just now watching this. I don’t count the bubble ring. I’ve never seen a season start, stop, and then start again with half the teams. That’s why I don’t count it
What is really ignored by the media is Anthony Davis led the lakers not lebron he led the team in scoring rebounds blocks and steals and was the best defender and Miami started 3 rookies because everyone got hurt i never hear this in the media
Lebron averaged 29.8 points, 11.8 rebounds and 8.5 assists per game in the finals. Anthony Davis averaged 25.0 points, 10.7 rebounds and 3.2 assists. You're literally lying right now lol.
I cannot for the life of me understand how you aren't at 20k at LEAST. You're videos are fun to listen to and you're hilarious! Love the stuff man, keep it up.
The only reason people hate on the bubble is LeBron James ... justifiably so. Because if he had just accepted it as another championship, no one would have minded, but for some STUPID REASON he went on like how the 2020 Bubble Playoffs were some kind of warzone and he was lucky to be alive; like no one could have comprehended being in his situation. I think even a couple of his peers called him out, too: "Dude, it's a RESORT", but James doubled down. It was the most tone deaf marketing I heard from James since he called himself the Greatest Of All Time on his own show. Man is smug.
I had my opinions and counter opinions about the bubble. It no doubt changed the landscape mentally. But LeBron trying to make it socalled hardest, making himself the goat, makes the bubble hard to validate
8:48 “raise their kids” literally. 😂 This video was in my recommendeds and I have no idea why. I didn’t even understand the title! I don’t follow basketball but I really enjoyed your video! You considered more than one point of view, and your editing is clever! Thank you for educating and entertaining me! 🙏😁
Pleasure to meet you, and both of your comments made me smile. It's a true joy to create for you all whether you be sports fans or not. Thank you both 💓
@@shaft9000 thank you very much! Undiscovered treasure is right! I’ve seen a few more videos in the meantime, and I know there are channels that have 500,000+ subscribers, which are nowhere near as entertaining. I will look up the “NBA training video” right now!! Thank you!
@@DaCommishDude thank you so much! I am a sports fan but I don’t follow any North American team sports so I never get videos about them recommended to me otherwise. Thank you for being open minded enough to welcome people who are not sports fans! Before the last winter Olympics, I tried to refamiliarize myself with figure skating, after having lost interest around the turn of the century. I’m sure not all figure skating fans are snobby elitists, but it’s almost like the ones who are go out of their way to make it difficult to learn. I’m not referring to all RUclipsrs, but to substantial portions of their comment sections, and the vast majority of Reddit commenters. They refer to skaters by their initials or nicknames, use abbreviations for complex technical jargon, and when somebody asks what it means, they tell you to educate yourself. They also try to declare as fact that skater A is sooo artistic, and skater B is simply not artistic and therefore shouldn’t get the scores that they get. Any counter argument gets shouted down. And then they complain that there aren’t enough figure skating fans, and wonder how they can start winning over new fans or welcome back older ones who have taken a break. 🤣 Yeah, so, your welcoming attitude is most welcome!! 😎🙏🍿
As a Rockets fan. I remember Westbrook was going crazy before the league shut down. He stopped shooting 3s & bossed the paint and mid range. And as soon as the league resumed he went back to his Westbrick worst 🤦🏻♂️
Hey man, I've been following you for about a month now. And you deserve every bit of success and growth that's going to continue to come to your channel. Your sports commentary is a beautiful balance of intellect and levity. I don't know if you're much of an NFL fan, but if you had time for content through the upcoming NFL season, you would kill it!
That one right there made Commissioner the greatest of all time. He was super, super ecstatic to drop it for RUclips cuz of the 18 year drought. The first wave of emotion when everybody saw him crying, that was for all 18 yrs of RUclips.
Fans don't disrespect this run cuz LeBron won it, I guess It's cuz of circumstances. Fans would disrespect this ring no matter who would win. If Giannis, Jimmy or Jokic won it the entire media and fans to trash them: that's not real ring, u can win it only in the Bubble. Or imagine Curry winning it, everybody would compare it to 2015 run and would call him fake champion
I watched it and bro it looked like a bunch of scrimmages. Looked like they were playing pick games most people tuned out right after their team lost. I'd have done the same if the Lakers went out too can't blame them. Should've put in some bubble fans and removed those zoom fans, just kept reminding of the reality that was the pandemic.
Tell it to Raptors fans. The defending champ doesn't even play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a _Florida team_ made the finals. What a surprise, right?
Do you recall the issues going on in Milwaukee when the players refused to play and the TNT team walled out. They threatened to scrap the CBA if players didn't show up.
Basketball fans are the only fans who discredit the whole season due to Covid. Ridiculous. The bubble had its own unique challenges. We truly got to see the best go against the best.
Equal playing field. And every team faced having like 6 guys out for a few games due to precautions/outbreaks, or even their head coach at some point. Everyone was facing new circumstances. The Bubble didn't bother me. I was happy the game was back. I'm not a Lakers fan, but it's still a championship imo. And I even feel a bit bad that they never got a parade. No one who won would have. It was a moment in time. I think it was cool that the Bubble even happened. It's (hopefully) unique. Tell your ugly kids about it some day.
It's the same in soccer/football. Most fans in Europe don't consider the bubble championship Liverpool won in the Premier League as a legitimate trophy, so Liverpool fans are often mocked for it. And guess what? LeBron is a minority owner of Liverpool.
2 things to say about bubble: basketballwise, and politicowise basketballwise: suspect at times, and no fans i the stands was disheartening, but there were some legitimately entertaining series. Nuggets coming back from two 3-1 deficits and clippers hucksters on TV losing their **** after the collapse was great, we had bubble murray vs. bubble mitchel, bam adebayo looking like young dwight howard... and lakers deserved it. AD legitimately cooked (has never played that well against jokic again), and they were a well-built defensive team with the potential for more chips (which they utterly destroyed in the westbrick trade, which itself was comedy gold... KCP rubbing that second ring in all their faces by now) politicowise: i mean top comment kind of says it: multimillionaires wearing 'freedom' and equality' on their jerseys and pasting the names of real people who got killed by the police on their signature shoes made in an asian sweatshop by some 8 year old kid... like, kind of a kaepernick situation: lot of players hearts' was at least partly in the right place , a lot of them remember at least a little what it's like to grow up poor and black in america (at least when they're not complaining about the lack of a private chef...) but then it just boils down to another big nike ad (if we're being kind). i'd call it something more like war profiteering it was also a real 'panem et circensis' moment for the bigwigs, and not just the NBA execs: as in 'we need a circus show to distract the starving masses from the fact that they're starving'. like, i think at one point the players association pitched the idea of just not playing as a kind of 'protest' after minneapolis (again, multimillionaire going on strike doesn't quite have the same ring to it as that 8-year old asian kid doing it), but, jokes aside, i heard this kind of got serious: didn't obama himself have to call them up at one point to tell them 'put on your equality shorts and keep dancing b*****?' barry and comish kind of reminded me of the fat alien from space jam with that move... you know, the one voiced by danny devito?
I tell people imagine if when the season start late October they went right into the playoffs.. that’s the bubble right there. Playoffs should have been canceled
The issue with Jxmmy Highroller’s take is because he only looks at the weakness of Miami but Lebron was talking about the ENTIRETY OF THE BUBBLE, the entire playoffs and not just that one finals series.
people clown the raptors because they won against the warriors without KD and without Klay the last game. Bubble ring was a whole different Atmosphere with no fans, no home court advantage. Things that definitely sway games and change up rhythm of players. This was just pick up ball at the Y. Mickey Mouse ring
In all honesty, I thought they should have started the playoffs right then and there after some practice games to get everyone up to speed or have the season canceled entirely because of how the NBA handled the COVID situation.
its disrespectful to everyone whos have had to go on the road to win a tough road game with the bullshit ref calls and the croud noise, and the travel and the time changes and turn around and say its the same as all the other rings.
The ring counts..but all rings arent equal..and the bubble Ring is the least among rings..so much went into there favor for them to get that ring.. What you have to overcome determines the strength of your ring
im a Lakers fan and although i do believe it should count it just doesn't feel like it carries the same weight if that makes sense. to put it in perspective i was happier this past season games 6 of the first and second round when the lakers beat the grizzlies and warriors in the playoffs then i was when they won the championship in 2020
the reason why i don't acknowledge that lakers' ring, is cause it was way too obvious the finals were rigged just because kobe died. i noticed that the lakers were getting free fouls almost every second, and the refs weren't giving the heat the same amount of fouls the lakers were getting. the bucks were hot that season, and it still doesn't make sense how they didn't get to the finals
Ive been saying all along the bubble championship was fraudulent. LJ is far too lazy and incompetent to actually lead a team to a championship. He's no different the KD. LJ can only win is when he stacks players in his favor. He makes excuses when the lakers did make the playoffs at one point and when they did make they were exited quickly. Last season they were swept by D Denver again excuses. Yes i do agree hes a remarkable talent but an MJ nor Kobe, Magic, Bird hes not a will never be.
Lemme tell you something, I watched every single Lakers game the 19-20 season. Here are the facts and I dare anyone to argue them. Before the season shutdown the Lakers were on pace to win at least 55+ games. They were the #1 seed in the west and started the season off hot. Lebron was having an MVP caliber year, AD was playing his best basketball and the Lakers had a top 3-5 defense. A week before the season shutdown, the Lakers beat the Bucks and Clippers in back to back games whom were all having great seasons as well btw. The Lakers coming into the season were already the favorites to win the title. Fast forward to the bubble and you have a team that did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do against competition under the same circumstances as them. The fact of the matter is that people will clown this ring because it's Lebron. I guarantee had it been anybody else yall would've stayed quiet.
thats the point lol, because lebron was talking the most. Anyone else wouldve been relatively quiet or relatable when speaking on the situation. Going 8 weeks not seeing your family is a instance that happens generally from time to time when youre grinding it out in gritty condition or going on a long hiatus working. If you are being paid millions then the matter of things being “hard” diminish in other peoples eyes and you ostracize yourself from reality that most endure. On top of that if you were to imagine yourself in Lebrons shoes then most would stfu and ball regardless of the toughness because there are multiple examples that would overshadow said “harsh” conditions. You can guarantee we wouldve been quiet.
i disagree i think its a perfectly valid ring. yes there wasn't any fucking all time great team that they defeated but they went through multiple all stars through the west with ease and defeated the heat who have made another final and conference finals since. now the heat did suffer injuries in the finals which is the only asterisk i would put on this ring. everybody had the same conditions, same advantages and disadvantages and if it is easier to play without travelling and a crowd its easier for everybody not just the lakers. also i hear people say that without the break the lakers would have been injured but then what's the clippers excuse? i think more than one team got healthier with the break making it again, a fair advantage to everybody that was injured or is older.
^ "valid" AND "lame" can be true about the same thing simultaneously. _For another example of this apparent paradox manifest in reality, see: the WNBA in any year_
Real basketball fans wanted the season to return. We just wanted more basketball. The ones that discredit the ring are the fans of the teams that didn’t have success
They played at a fucking RESORT. No travel (which absolutely affects certain games), no home-court advantage, no NOTHING. Some teams weren't even INVITED to play. Like you said, a lot of players just didn't see a point in actually showing effort in it, leading to a bunch of randoms dropping 20, 30, 40 point performances. LeBron saying that it's "one of the most difficult rings ever won" just makes me dislike it even more.
We can't compare it to any other championship really, but we can measure the difficulty of the ring in the same way we measure others, and it definitely was not one of the hardest championships ever won, it was one of the easiest. Which seemed to match the eye test, and makes it less surprising why the ratings were so low as well. Nobody was interested in watching players that didn't want to be there. The fan almost always knows best, in aggregate, and the fans knew it was a complete waste of time, so much so that even with almost no other options, they chose not to watch.
The infection rate was not impressive. I worked outside, clearing up homeless encampments, and didn't get Covid. I also didn't get it despite being around my mom who tested positive after a week of being sick and me thinking she just had a cold.
Expect a Kiwi to bring a reality check to America. My Dad was stuck in the middle east during the gulf war , we didn’t know where he was for like 3 months. The hell is bron talking about.
As a long time Lakers fan, being one since 1996, I don't really count this as a championship. What makes it even more disappointing is this is the one that tied them with Boston for the most all time. Like you stated in your video too many factors were different from other NBA playoffs. This just seemed like the NBA had the tournament as a way to recover loss of revenue but at the end of the day it's a business.
If you're a long time Lakers fan, you would appreciate a ring, no matter what it is. It was a fair game to every single organization. Everyone had a fair chance. And they were in a first place, too.
@@aznpikachu215 yes and no because lebron fans hold his championships to such a high standard but they love to discredit anyone who "ruined" his career. an example is the recent finals and how the nuggest won. the lebron/laker fans said nuggets were the easiest 1st seed but once they made the finals they all said it was such an easy path. a ring is a ring unless it was taken away from lebron
@@watuon4745 So what if they do hold LBJ'S TITLES to a higher standard, people have passion for their teams and their favorite player's. I hold MJ'S TITLES to a higher standard!!! He'll got to much hate for fans and player's. Enjoy the games!!! Stop being so judge mental about player's and fans. These player's are not your friends, however I'm sure that they appreciate our support for they're talent.
The bubble had disadvantages, but I think the hate from it mostly stems from LeBron’s haters, salty Clippers, Bucks, Celtics fans or what have you who never saw their team win that season. COVID or not, I think the majority of things that happened would’ve happen regardless. The Lakers were the number 1 seed, so they were projecting to at least make it to the finals anyways. The Clippers have a horrible history choking, so that would’ve happened too. The other usual suspects at the time, the 76ers, Celtics, Jazz and the Rockets were gonna choke at some point too. The Heat broke out that season and they’ve proven themselves later on that even without the bubble, they can get themselves to the finals. A lotta criticisms of the bubble I think is ppl are using “what-if” scenarios and taking it to heart when it comes to it.
There were more advantages than disadvantages - especially for the good teams that had their entire roster intact. It's more so of LeBron and his media members automatically declaring it the most difficult championship ever simply because it was different.
I'm in L.A., and for sure Toronto got SCREWED hard....the defending champ doesn't even get to play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a Florida team made the finals. _Surprise, surprise, eh?..._
@@shaft9000Since the Raptors played on a neutral court all season they should have had an advantage playing in a bubble environment. Miami made it back to the finals outside of the bubble the Raptors gave only gone backwards after 2019.
Just realized james said he they didn't see thier family for 8 weeks ik some of them got kids now, but like half the league played at least a year at college away from thier families
I HATE THE LAKERS. But to just say that the ring doesn't count is ridiculous. And tbh, even though it sucked that there were zero crowds, I gotta say that it was some of the most exciting games and plays that I had ever seen. It was really fun to watch
playoff atmosphere is real, and some players crumble in it, while others are elevated by it. the bubble literally had the atmosphere of an empty arena. if a tree falls in the forest but no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound? if no one watched you win a ring, does it still mean a thing?
The bubble ring counts, I just don’t respect it as highly as any other ring. And I disagree on the lack of weight that the bubble ring had because it was the lakers who won it. I believe if any team with no previous championships won that ring (Clippers, Nuggets, etc) then people wouldn’t respect it either. People would argue that they would have to win again to believe it. It also doesn’t help that both of the finals teams(lakers, heat) were first round exit the following year. Then the Lakers didn’t make the play in the year after.
I don't think it was pushed. The Lakers were 100% the team in the Bubble, many important Heat players were injured so it did not happened just cuz they were lucky. You're right no matter who it would be Giannis, Jimmy, Steph, fans would keep saying: that ain't the real ring, u can win only in the bubble. They don't disrespect this ring cuz LeBron won it. I think this is cuz of circumstances
Lakers deserved to win that bubble championship, but it helps to back up that so ppl don't say it's a fluke, but LA had 6 missed postseasons before this, another after and a 1st Rd exit. Ppl diminish the bubble for many reasons but I do because of this.
"We're living in a bloody resort" lol. lebron doing so much with that 2020 was a difficult championship shit. Like bro you dont have to defend yourself so much you are multiple time champion
As a Lakers' fan, the only reason why people really dismiss the bubble because they talk about it like it's the most difficult championship ever. Every team played under the same & favorable circumstances. First, everyone had 4 months rest. Secondly, none of the teams traveled while inside the bubble & there were no fans. Another interesting tidbit was that arguably a quarter of the players didn't want to be there. It certainly made for an interesting playoffs though.
_"Every team played under the same and favorable circumstances"_ ...hmmm. Uh no, WRONG. the defending champ doesn't even play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a Florida team made the finals. Must have been a total coincidence that the Heat to got so far...right? (and I'm in L.A., been a Lakers season ticket holder going back to 15 years ago)
The NBA bubble is a business at the end of the day. Everyone had a fair chance to get a ring, if it was a small market, people would complain. Big markets, lots would complain, the point is, it was a fair tournament, the Lakers just faced what the competition was in front of them, and they won. Simple as that.
The part that people forget about this standing check out there first couple of games in the beginning they played the rockets 4 times then kings. They played nobodies for the first month. They were given a easy schedule
If there is anyone who thinks taking months off, not being allowed to practice as a team, having to move to and live in a hotel and not having a crowd or home court didn’t impact the results then they’re just not willing to think critically about it. I have a hard time believing with those circumstances every playoff series would bear the same result. Guys were not giving the same effort for various reasons, it also benefitted some players (TJ Warren comes to mind). The season was cobbled together to recoup money that would’ve been lost, that doesn’t mean it is the same competitively as every other playoffs. Somebody had to win, but it is entirely disingenuous and naive to pretend like it’s the same as every other championship. Idk how many circumstances one would have to change for some people to accept that.
Wait a sec, two things: - so... the RAPTORS had it every bit as good as the Heat, eh? Were the Lakers or Heat not able to play a single playoff or tourney game in their home country, also? Were they defending their title that year, too? - LeBron found '20 so difficult because _nobody cared to watch him.... it starved his hangry ego.
Dynamo, u are ignoring the many intangibles about the 2020 championship. The numbers that Jimmy used don't account for everything. Statistics can't be used to capture every difficulty in regards to a championship. Like professional players nowadays need their staff. Need their nutritionist and chef. In order to performance at peak performance, elite performance. Especially for a man's of Lebron age. Half the reason for his longetivty is his rigerous care for himself
Naw I wouldn't have considered it a true NBA final championship no matter who won. In fact we've been gaslit into thinking it was always considered a NBA Finals. In truth before the teams going up had even won their side of the conference - it was called "The NBA Bubble Championship" And had I known this be a problem in the future I'd have saved clips on ESPN and articles... even the logo they had leading up to it. Once Lebron entered the picture it became "NBA Finals: Bubble Championship" then finally just NBA Finals.
overall I thought this video was good... but honestly the bubble slander is out of control. The NBA has an 82 game season... there are plenty of nights when players do not want to be there. Pretending that most of the teams were just going through the motions is super disingenuous. I watched the majority of the playoffs during the bubble, and I can tell it was some of the best basketball I have watched in the NBA. It wasn't just randoms that were going off, but many stars were in their bags... I think this is due the fact that they were cut off from fan distractions and outside distractions. I think the bubble ring was one of toughest NBA rings not because of the 50 win teams, but because most players were locked in.. and the ones that didn't want to be there either didn't show up or went home early. lol Even though Lebron didn't cut through a bunch of 55 win teams in order to win that ring. I can say many of the players played at a real high level. Most of the people that criticized the bubble didn't watch the games. Which makes sense because casual basketball fans are always the loudest in the room. lol
Even if you do count it it’s still the most easiest ring of all time no fans no traveling no home-court advantage not to mention they already travel and stay in hotels half of the season so it’s not like there’s something uncommon occurring they go on road trips for at least 2 to 3 weeks so an extended road trip is basically all it was
No homecourt advantage is a disadvantage if you're a high seeded team, The Bucks and Clippers and Celtics lost to lower seeded teams playing on a neutral court helps the underdogs and hurts the the top teams.The Lakers were the only top five seed to make the finals.
The reason I discount the Lakers bubble ring is that they never won jack schitt in the surrounding years. If they had a string of contending seasons that included the bubble ring, then fine, call yourself a dynasty and count the ring. But when you go lottery, weird ring, 1st round, lottery.... the ring seems more like a blip, a fluke, a freak occurrence frrom a mid team. You can't go calling yourself a champion if the only time you won was under wonky-ass circumstances.
Looking at that as a real championship is joke. If Jokic and the Nuggets would have somehow won it, the narrative would have shifted. The championship was set up for the Lakers especially after Kobe's passing. They did not experience any of the playoff atmosphere that one gets. The biggest problem though is that in the subsequent seasons, the Lakers were first rounded and missed the playoffs and any and everything that happens in a normal NBA season occured. This season they beat two teams which were dysfunctional and the moment they faced a good one, they got swept. Not even a 6 game series. The story of LeBron's career, who we are supposed to believe to be the best in the world, is that when he wins, so much things must go wrong for his opponent but when he loses, it is the cleanest loss ever, no contest. Now if he had gone to the Finals in 2021 or the WCF and put on a good show, then maybe people would take it seriously.
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had key players miss alot games with injuries .If Lebron and AD played every game and the Lakers struggled you would have a point. They did make the conference finals this year and probably would have had homecourt advantage if Lebron and AD didn't miss significant time. Lebron and AD at 100 percent can beat anyone .
@@robertwhittaker1833 but here is the deal though, that is a normal NBA season were numerous factors like injuries can affect teams. Look at the 2022 Warriors, that team should have won 65+ games, but because of injuries, which is what happens when you've been competing at a high level in the NBA for 5 years plus, they only got 53. Also the Lakeshow last year had more problems than Bron and AD missing games. AD was carrying that team and LeBron was severely fatigued and had a relatively poor performance in the playoffs. You give them three months off and then start the playoffs and the Lakers are probably a championship team, which is what happened in the bubble.
100% agree regarding the organisation and logistics and management of the bubble. You voiced my words. I couldn't help thinking at the time, ooh f&CK, Adam Silver you're going to be popular, you weren't supposed to demonstrate how efficient and professional we actually can be, nobody is supposed to know that we are capable and can with drama and excuses get shit relatively easily. Jeez Adam, you really f&cked us all on that one, now people are going to expect government and civil services to operate as effectively. (Thankfully, people somehow managed to forget about that side of things or didn't notice. So it didn't catch on. - the curse of being to good - no one realised there was no drama - I guess that's what makes it forgettable), I love that the Lakers won, I love it that Dwight Howard, and JaVale McGee got their rings. The youngsters Kuzma and Schroeder, did their bit well and Im glad they won a ring. I love the fact that Gianni's younger brother Kostas was also part of this team, which means he was an NBA Champion before his brother.. But the story I love the most is the one, where a player was brought up from the G-league, came off the bench in the regular season, to be in the starting lineup in the final championship game, he is all heart, does everything asked of him, and more, especially at crucial times, He is a coach's dream player from the point of being a hard worker, eager to learn, a great team player, great attitude, delivers every time, gutsy, underrated, underestimated,, humble and loves the game. Started the season in the G-league & ended it a NBA Champion, and has a ring., just for this player alone I'm thrilled the Lakers won, (the rest are the cherries on top). And let us not forget Luca, it may only have been 7 games, but goddamn he made them exciting and great basketball to watch.
Before the shutdown, I think Raps were also 2nd in the east, post-Kawhi. Siakam and Lowry were All-Stars and Nurse was coaching. At some after the ASG and before shutdown (Last game was Raptors-Jazz), Siakam injured his shoulder and played like ass in the Bubble, and Toronto still took Boston to 7 and almost won that series after sweeping the Nets. People don't respect their championship either, but they were hooping until the pandemic and still had a decent playoff run defending their title.
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“Poor Davis, celebrated too hard and injured himself” 😂😂😂
All championships count, but not all rings are created equal
This. We could go even deeper and say that we can have tiers for titles. Some titles just mean more, are more valuable and more respected than others
Yea, just ask Sauron
Steven Adams response was so grounded... military personnel get mre's and spend years from family not making millions
Steve Adams, legend. Hope he has a great comeback season.
Ah yes, the bubble. Where multimillionaire players had “Freedom” written on the back of their jerseys 😂
they really do understand the struggle. Living in multi million dollar homes, driving $50,000+ cars paid off in cash 🎻
@@oldmajor491080k+ cars paid in cash*
@@oldmajor4910you sound like a fool. A lot of those guys grew up dirt poor. Having money now doesn’t mean you forget what you lived through before.
Of course, not only was that written on the back their jerseys, they weren't allowed to leave the complex, with seemingly no understanding of irony.
@@oldmajor4910Most didn’t come from wealth and privilege so they likely have some experience with poverty.
Also counting The 2020 ring as a legit ring is fine. Just also count all of Bill Russell's rings instead of stating he played against lesser competition.
Well, Russell played with 6 HOFs in his team where was only 15 teams, u needed to win just 2 play-off series to get a championship. And Boston's only real problem was Wilt and nobody else. How many championships Boston won since Russell retired? I guess even Detroit pistons won more than Boston. This is why u can't compare his rings to the rings of post-russell era. Let alone than what kind of accolades Russell had besides His championships?
P.S. Bill Russell is not even a top 10 player anymore. There were much more players more talented and better than Russell has ever been with more accolades and who managed to win rings with less help and more competitive eras (but u can't say it cuz old heads gonna be angry at u, probably some of them even did not see him play)
@@majesty1842other teams were in The playoffs were tuff too. If they weren't, Chamberlain would be dropping 50 on playoff teams but he didn't and he couldn't, why? Because playoff teams in the 60s were actually good and way better than the regular season fodder.
Why wouldn’t you count it? I’m confused by people and this weird notion.. because there weren’t fans?
@@whoozyyyjust read the comment right before yours. People are stupid is the easy reason why they don’t count bill russels ring. The hard reason is they go thru whatever mental gymnastics they want to justify saying idiotic things like “ring culture is toxic.” They have the nerve to call us old heads when the only things they watch is who can make the deepest three and who gets this weeks participation trophy. And after the travesty that was embiid’s mvp, even that should be considered a participation trophy at this point, at least until the players start getting hungry for rings like they should be.
@@ghostflame9211 well, dude I'm not counting only rings since 2010. It's easy to call an idiot the person who says facts u can't agree with. I'm not hating I'm speaking facts if can't accept that it's your problem
I think the whole "hardest championship ever" rant from Lebron stems from the fear of not winning another ring ever again. The guy wants his rings to count for two or three.
The most impressive thing about the bubble wasn’t the highlights or the plays, it was how low the viewership was in covid
As always LeBron created troubles for himself by praising himself. He should have just shut up and celebrate his 4th ring instead of calling this chip run "the hardest one" when it wasn't. Bron would have much less haters if was humble and could shut his mouth up when it's needed
Lol agreed
And to make matters worse, Bronsexuals will insult and belittle other all-time greats in order to artificially raise LeBron to #2 all time or even call him "goat" seriously. Dude has the worst finals winning % of anyone considered top-10 All Time, and he needed to play with the most All-Stars to do that (!) - only to win less than MJ, Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Kareem and Russell.
It's a travesty fueled by (for lack of a better term) _generational stupidity,_ is what it is.
Lol and to ask LeBron this question, if that ring was the hardest then what about the others?? That's means he should have never lost to Mavs in 2011. See he kills his argument and excuses. That means he should have beat the KD warriors. He contradicts himself.
We didn't watch the finals because we were so thoroughly disgusted by being lectured/talked down to by the "god like" millionaires
Why do people ignore that Miami wasn't at full health and strength that Finals?
They do
Wasn’t Herro in and out of the lineup before that, though? I wouldn’t say that’s complete full strength.
@@peamut547 Herro is trash. He had one good play-off series vs Boston and since then he has never been good in postseason. He balling only in the regular season
We also ignore that (at the time) the defending champion Raptors were prohibited from playing a single playoff game in their own country.
Injured or not - _is it any wonder that a Florida team made the Finals in the bubble year?_
@@majesty1842 I didn’t claim he was good, lol. I also dislike Herro and his style of play. I was just trying to refute the claim that the Heat were at full strength
Lakers got a magical 3pt shooting jump after the season resumed check the stats, also we’d see even worse slander if Jimmy, Giannis won their only ring during the bubble
Facts
The Lakers proved that they were the best team with everyone fit and healthy. But what does it say that 19/20, with a 4 month break, that was the only season LeBron and AD have stayed healthy throughout??
I think in a normal season, they would have sustained injuries that would have kept them from the chip.
And if the Lakers were healthy they would have beat the nuggets
@@lethalexponent6But the Lakers were healthy though
@@lethalexponent6 they DID beat the Nuggets in 19/20.
Denver had just come off of the first 2 rounds both going to 7 games AND coming back from 3-2 and 3-1, so they were shagged out by the time they faced the Lakers, unprepared to go that deep into the playoffs so early in Joker and Murray's careers with Jerami Grant for a #3.
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Everyone had the same amount of time of udumphuqq clippers fan
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Why thank you so much. I'm thrilled to hear this. I'd definitely be down with doing a podcast, and I'm so grateful to be able to entertain you all with NBA coverage. I can't wait to add more sports for you all.
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5:27 and this is why Aquaman is one of my favorite players.
Playoffs are about a series of home and away games. Makes a major difference when 20,000 fans are screaming against you under extreme pressure. Bubble ring simply don't count regardless of the winners
Just now watching this. I don’t count the bubble ring. I’ve never seen a season start, stop, and then start again with half the teams. That’s why I don’t count it
That's definitely understandable. I see your point.
What is really ignored by the media is Anthony Davis led the lakers not lebron he led the team in scoring rebounds blocks and steals and was the best defender and Miami started 3 rookies because everyone got hurt i never hear this in the media
Facts!
true this
Lebron averaged 29.8 points, 11.8 rebounds and 8.5 assists per game in the finals. Anthony Davis averaged 25.0 points, 10.7 rebounds and 3.2 assists. You're literally lying right now lol.
@@saimaurice3652 exactly bro. The haters just say anything and the weirdos just lick it up. While google google is a literal thumb swipe away
You’re literally lying
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The only reason people hate on the bubble is LeBron James ... justifiably so. Because if he had just accepted it as another championship, no one would have minded, but for some STUPID REASON he went on like how the 2020 Bubble Playoffs were some kind of warzone and he was lucky to be alive; like no one could have comprehended being in his situation. I think even a couple of his peers called him out, too: "Dude, it's a RESORT", but James doubled down. It was the most tone deaf marketing I heard from James since he called himself the Greatest Of All Time on his own show. Man is smug.
I had my opinions and counter opinions about the bubble. It no doubt changed the landscape mentally. But LeBron trying to make it socalled hardest, making himself the goat, makes the bubble hard to validate
It’s not just a Lebron saying it was hard many other players complaining, how hard it was
8 and a half weeks without family, lol we live in different worlds. Thanks Steven Adams.
8:48 “raise their kids” literally. 😂
This video was in my recommendeds and I have no idea why. I didn’t even understand the title! I don’t follow basketball but I really enjoyed your video! You considered more than one point of view, and your editing is clever!
Thank you for educating and entertaining me! 🙏😁
Welcome!
Dynamo is a somewhat of an "undiscovered treasure".
Check out his 'NBA Training Video" when you have some time to kill.
Pleasure to meet you, and both of your comments made me smile. It's a true joy to create for you all whether you be sports fans or not. Thank you both 💓
@@shaft9000 thank you very much! Undiscovered treasure is right! I’ve seen a few more videos in the meantime, and I know there are channels that have 500,000+ subscribers, which are nowhere near as entertaining.
I will look up the “NBA training video” right now!! Thank you!
@@DaCommishDude thank you so much! I am a sports fan but I don’t follow any North American team sports so I never get videos about them recommended to me otherwise.
Thank you for being open minded enough to welcome people who are not sports fans! Before the last winter Olympics, I tried to refamiliarize myself with figure skating, after having lost interest around the turn of the century. I’m sure not all figure skating fans are snobby elitists, but it’s almost like the ones who are go out of their way to make it difficult to learn. I’m not referring to all RUclipsrs, but to substantial portions of their comment sections, and the vast majority of Reddit commenters. They refer to skaters by their initials or nicknames, use abbreviations for complex technical jargon, and when somebody asks what it means, they tell you to educate yourself. They also try to declare as fact that skater A is sooo artistic, and skater B is simply not artistic and therefore shouldn’t get the scores that they get. Any counter argument gets shouted down. And then they complain that there aren’t enough figure skating fans, and wonder how they can start winning over new fans or welcome back older ones who have taken a break. 🤣
Yeah, so, your welcoming attitude is most welcome!! 😎🙏🍿
As a Rockets fan. I remember Westbrook was going crazy before the league shut down. He stopped shooting 3s & bossed the paint and mid range. And as soon as the league resumed he went back to his Westbrick worst 🤦🏻♂️
Lmao that was probably the best stretch of his career way better than anything during his mvp season
Simply put. It was an exhibition
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That one right there made Commissioner the greatest of all time. He was super, super ecstatic to drop it for RUclips cuz of the 18 year drought. The first wave of emotion when everybody saw him crying, that was for all 18 yrs of RUclips.
How you the least watched finals when everyone is isolated at home most likely nothing to do lmao 😂😅. That shit had me cracking up.
Fans don't disrespect this run cuz LeBron won it, I guess It's cuz of circumstances. Fans would disrespect this ring no matter who would win. If Giannis, Jimmy or Jokic won it the entire media and fans to trash them: that's not real ring, u can win it only in the Bubble. Or imagine Curry winning it, everybody would compare it to 2015 run and would call him fake champion
I think it’s because how the NBA handled the situation. You suspended the season instead of just canceling it
he kind of explained that in the first few minutes
I watched it and bro it looked like a bunch of scrimmages. Looked like they were playing pick games most people tuned out right after their team lost. I'd have done the same if the Lakers went out too can't blame them. Should've put in some bubble fans and removed those zoom fans, just kept reminding of the reality that was the pandemic.
personally, i believe every single championship counts. the lakers just came out and played who was in front of them and won. simple as that.
Shutup
Yup exactly tf they was supposed to do not win it?
I didn’t have a problem with that until they said “the hardest championship ever in nba history” like did y’all forget the 2011 Mavs championship run?
Tell it to Raptors fans. The defending champ doesn't even play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a _Florida team_ made the finals. What a surprise, right?
@@leetraviusmckay2919open your eyes and look at the circumstances they play in . Just don’t be a hater all your life
Do you recall the issues going on in Milwaukee when the players refused to play and the TNT team walled out. They threatened to scrap the CBA if players didn't show up.
People disregard this ring due to the shortened season, no road games, no back to backs and no hostile crowds. It was an exhibition season.
Usttopid
Basketball fans are the only fans who discredit the whole season due to Covid. Ridiculous. The bubble had its own unique challenges. We truly got to see the best go against the best.
@@mahamedjmal2536 also fans that like the op are sttopid and still jealous of lebron
Equal playing field. And every team faced having like 6 guys out for a few games due to precautions/outbreaks, or even their head coach at some point. Everyone was facing new circumstances. The Bubble didn't bother me. I was happy the game was back. I'm not a Lakers fan, but it's still a championship imo. And I even feel a bit bad that they never got a parade. No one who won would have. It was a moment in time. I think it was cool that the Bubble even happened. It's (hopefully) unique. Tell your ugly kids about it some day.
you know why they disregard this ring
It's the same in soccer/football. Most fans in Europe don't consider the bubble championship Liverpool won in the Premier League as a legitimate trophy, so Liverpool fans are often mocked for it. And guess what? LeBron is a minority owner of Liverpool.
8:42 you are my only source for professional sports sports
2 things to say about bubble: basketballwise, and politicowise
basketballwise: suspect at times, and no fans i the stands was disheartening, but there were some legitimately entertaining series. Nuggets coming back from two 3-1 deficits and clippers hucksters on TV losing their **** after the collapse was great, we had bubble murray vs. bubble mitchel, bam adebayo looking like young dwight howard...
and lakers deserved it. AD legitimately cooked (has never played that well against jokic again), and they were a well-built defensive team with the potential for more chips (which they utterly destroyed in the westbrick trade, which itself was comedy gold... KCP rubbing that second ring in all their faces by now)
politicowise: i mean top comment kind of says it: multimillionaires wearing 'freedom' and equality' on their jerseys and pasting the names of real people who got killed by the police on their signature shoes made in an asian sweatshop by some 8 year old kid...
like, kind of a kaepernick situation: lot of players hearts' was at least partly in the right place , a lot of them remember at least a little what it's like to grow up poor and black in america (at least when they're not complaining about the lack of a private chef...) but then it just boils down to another big nike ad (if we're being kind).
i'd call it something more like war profiteering
it was also a real 'panem et circensis' moment for the bigwigs, and not just the NBA execs: as in 'we need a circus show to distract the starving masses from the fact that they're starving'. like, i think at one point the players association pitched the idea of just not playing as a kind of 'protest' after minneapolis (again, multimillionaire going on strike doesn't quite have the same ring to it as that 8-year old asian kid doing it), but, jokes aside, i heard this kind of got serious: didn't obama himself have to call them up at one point to tell them 'put on your equality shorts and keep dancing b*****?'
barry and comish kind of reminded me of the fat alien from space jam with that move... you know, the one voiced by danny devito?
I tell people imagine if when the season start late October they went right into the playoffs.. that’s the bubble right there. Playoffs should have been canceled
The issue with Jxmmy Highroller’s take is because he only looks at the weakness of Miami but Lebron was talking about the ENTIRETY OF THE BUBBLE, the entire playoffs and not just that one finals series.
people clown the raptors because they won against the warriors without KD and without Klay the last game. Bubble ring was a whole different Atmosphere with no fans, no home court advantage. Things that definitely sway games and change up rhythm of players. This was just pick up ball at the Y. Mickey Mouse ring
In all honesty, I thought they should have started the playoffs right then and there after some practice games to get everyone up to speed or have the season canceled entirely because of how the NBA handled the COVID situation.
"we're living in a bloody resort"
now this is my new favrite way to describe it
its disrespectful to everyone whos have had to go on the road to win a tough road game with the bullshit ref calls and the croud noise, and the travel and the time changes and turn around and say its the same as all the other rings.
They were making it seem like they were shipped off to a desert island to play basketball and couldn’t see their families
3:11 I think you mean hypotheticals but yes, another great video!
The ring counts..but all rings arent equal..and the bubble Ring is the least among rings..so much went into there favor for them to get that ring..
What you have to overcome determines the strength of your ring
I am still waiting to see Lebron make a bucket without (1) traveling, or (2) committing an offensive foul.
im a Lakers fan and although i do believe it should count it just doesn't feel like it carries the same weight if that makes sense. to put it in perspective i was happier this past season games 6 of the first and second round when the lakers beat the grizzlies and warriors in the playoffs then i was when they won the championship in 2020
Steven Adams was like “This ain’t sh**, I came from a country where they drop bombs so this ain’t sh** to me”
Australia?
the reason why i don't acknowledge that lakers' ring, is cause it was way too obvious the finals were rigged just because kobe died. i noticed that the lakers were getting free fouls almost every second, and the refs weren't giving the heat the same amount of fouls the lakers were getting. the bucks were hot that season, and it still doesn't make sense how they didn't get to the finals
A ring is a ring. Lakers won fair and square but to say its the hardest battle for a ring in league history 🤦♂️
Ive been saying all along the bubble championship was fraudulent. LJ is far too lazy and incompetent to actually lead a team to a championship. He's no different the KD. LJ can only win is when he stacks players in his favor. He makes excuses when the lakers did make the playoffs at one point and when they did make they were exited quickly. Last season they were swept by D Denver again excuses. Yes i do agree hes a remarkable talent but an MJ nor Kobe, Magic, Bird hes not a will never be.
Lemme tell you something, I watched every single Lakers game the 19-20 season. Here are the facts and I dare anyone to argue them. Before the season shutdown the Lakers were on pace to win at least 55+ games. They were the #1 seed in the west and started the season off hot. Lebron was having an MVP caliber year, AD was playing his best basketball and the Lakers had a top 3-5 defense. A week before the season shutdown, the Lakers beat the Bucks and Clippers in back to back games whom were all having great seasons as well btw. The Lakers coming into the season were already the favorites to win the title.
Fast forward to the bubble and you have a team that did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do against competition under the same circumstances as them. The fact of the matter is that people will clown this ring because it's Lebron. I guarantee had it been anybody else yall would've stayed quiet.
thats the point lol, because lebron was talking the most. Anyone else wouldve been relatively quiet or relatable when speaking on the situation.
Going 8 weeks not seeing your family is a instance that happens generally from time to time when youre grinding it out in gritty condition or going on a long hiatus working. If you are being paid millions then the matter of things being “hard” diminish in other peoples eyes and you ostracize yourself from reality that most endure. On top of that if you were to imagine yourself in Lebrons shoes then most would stfu and ball regardless of the toughness because there are multiple examples that would overshadow said “harsh” conditions.
You can guarantee we wouldve been quiet.
The bubble ring is better than no ring for sure. But it ain’t worth much compared to most rings.
i disagree i think its a perfectly valid ring. yes there wasn't any fucking all time great team that they defeated but they went through multiple all stars through the west with ease and defeated the heat who have made another final and conference finals since. now the heat did suffer injuries in the finals which is the only asterisk i would put on this ring. everybody had the same conditions, same advantages and disadvantages and if it is easier to play without travelling and a crowd its easier for everybody not just the lakers. also i hear people say that without the break the lakers would have been injured but then what's the clippers excuse? i think more than one team got healthier with the break making it again, a fair advantage to everybody that was injured or is older.
^ "valid" AND "lame" can be true about the same thing simultaneously.
_For another example of this apparent paradox manifest in reality, see: the WNBA in any year_
there is a certain reason why you say that
The pizza rolls skit had me rolling
Real basketball fans wanted the season to return. We just wanted more basketball. The ones that discredit the ring are the fans of the teams that didn’t have success
They played at a fucking RESORT. No travel (which absolutely affects certain games), no home-court advantage, no NOTHING. Some teams weren't even INVITED to play. Like you said, a lot of players just didn't see a point in actually showing effort in it, leading to a bunch of randoms dropping 20, 30, 40 point performances. LeBron saying that it's "one of the most difficult rings ever won" just makes me dislike it even more.
I believe the Lakers are the only team that practiced during the bubble as well.
We can't compare it to any other championship really, but we can measure the difficulty of the ring in the same way we measure others, and it definitely was not one of the hardest championships ever won, it was one of the easiest. Which seemed to match the eye test, and makes it less surprising why the ratings were so low as well. Nobody was interested in watching players that didn't want to be there. The fan almost always knows best, in aggregate, and the fans knew it was a complete waste of time, so much so that even with almost no other options, they chose not to watch.
LeBron said it was one of the hardest rings to get because he was gone 8 weeks from home😂😂,I was a trucker for years,being gone 8 weeks was normal
The infection rate was not impressive. I worked outside, clearing up homeless encampments, and didn't get Covid. I also didn't get it despite being around my mom who tested positive after a week of being sick and me thinking she just had a cold.
Expect a Kiwi to bring a reality check to America.
My Dad was stuck in the middle east during the gulf war , we didn’t know where he was for like 3 months. The hell is bron talking about.
As a long time Lakers fan, being one since 1996, I don't really count this as a championship. What makes it even more disappointing is this is the one that tied them with Boston for the most all time. Like you stated in your video too many factors were different from other NBA playoffs. This just seemed like the NBA had the tournament as a way to recover loss of revenue but at the end of the day it's a business.
If you're a long time Lakers fan, you would appreciate a ring, no matter what it is. It was a fair game to every single organization. Everyone had a fair chance. And they were in a first place, too.
@@aznpikachu215 yes and no because lebron fans hold his championships to such a high standard but they love to discredit anyone who "ruined" his career. an example is the recent finals and how the nuggest won. the lebron/laker fans said nuggets were the easiest 1st seed but once they made the finals they all said it was such an easy path. a ring is a ring unless it was taken away from lebron
yeah not a Lakers fan but nice try though
Ur not a laker fan or you are but you just hate LeBron
@@watuon4745 So what if they do hold LBJ'S TITLES to a higher standard, people have passion for their teams and their favorite player's. I hold MJ'S TITLES to a higher standard!!! He'll got to much hate for fans and player's. Enjoy the games!!! Stop being so judge mental about player's and fans. These player's are not your friends, however I'm sure that they appreciate our support for they're talent.
If Kobe played and won it would be "Mamba mentally"
The bubble had disadvantages, but I think the hate from it mostly stems from LeBron’s haters, salty Clippers, Bucks, Celtics fans or what have you who never saw their team win that season.
COVID or not, I think the majority of things that happened would’ve happen regardless. The Lakers were the number 1 seed, so they were projecting to at least make it to the finals anyways. The Clippers have a horrible history choking, so that would’ve happened too. The other usual suspects at the time, the 76ers, Celtics, Jazz and the Rockets were gonna choke at some point too. The Heat broke out that season and they’ve proven themselves later on that even without the bubble, they can get themselves to the finals. A lotta criticisms of the bubble I think is ppl are using “what-if” scenarios and taking it to heart when it comes to it.
There were more advantages than disadvantages - especially for the good teams that had their entire roster intact.
It's more so of LeBron and his media members automatically declaring it the most difficult championship ever simply because it was different.
@@atlien1988I gave the Lakers and Lebron their respect until they started the whole “it was the hardest championship ever” thing then I said hold up
I'm in L.A., and for sure Toronto got SCREWED hard....the defending champ doesn't even get to play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a Florida team made the finals.
_Surprise, surprise, eh?..._
@@shaft9000Since the Raptors played on a neutral court all season they should have had an advantage playing in a bubble environment. Miami made it back to the finals outside of the bubble the Raptors gave only gone backwards after 2019.
I'm a Laker fan, and this ring still feels slimy.
Same & same.
Just realized james said he they didn't see thier family for 8 weeks ik some of them got kids now, but like half the league played at least a year at college away from thier families
I HATE THE LAKERS. But to just say that the ring doesn't count is ridiculous. And tbh, even though it sucked that there were zero crowds, I gotta say that it was some of the most exciting games and plays that I had ever seen. It was really fun to watch
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You can win a championship in a different planet a ring is a ring no matter where it took place.
But at least don't call it the one of the hardest championships in NBA. When it was actually easiest one in last 30 years
@@majesty1842 that's fair
playoff atmosphere is real, and some players crumble in it, while others are elevated by it. the bubble literally had the atmosphere of an empty arena.
if a tree falls in the forest but no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound? if no one watched you win a ring, does it still mean a thing?
@@majesty1842 For sure, when we grade it by the same standards we grade every other championship, it's one of the weakest, ever.
I don’t understand people who say it didn’t count?
Suns went undefeated that year and didnt make the playoffs. This shit does NOT count
Everyone hate because there team didn't win it especially since the clippers choked and didn't make the Wcf
The bubble ring counts, I just don’t respect it as highly as any other ring. And I disagree on the lack of weight that the bubble ring had because it was the lakers who won it.
I believe if any team with no previous championships won that ring (Clippers, Nuggets, etc) then people wouldn’t respect it either. People would argue that they would have to win again to believe it. It also doesn’t help that both of the finals teams(lakers, heat) were first round exit the following year. Then the Lakers didn’t make the play in the year after.
Lakers and heat had like 4 weeks off before the next season which lead to the Lakers never recovering from injuries
"More than an Athlete". True, he is also a clown. Don't mention adversity, cause he'll just start with the pre-packaged excuses.
Had anyone else's team won it they would be cool with it
You wrong. If any other team won it would be the same. This was pushed so he can win a ring.
I don't think it was pushed. The Lakers were 100% the team in the Bubble, many important Heat players were injured so it did not happened just cuz they were lucky. You're right no matter who it would be Giannis, Jimmy, Steph, fans would keep saying: that ain't the real ring, u can win only in the bubble. They don't disrespect this ring cuz LeBron won it. I think this is cuz of circumstances
And it still was the least watched NBA finals
Lakers deserved to win that bubble championship, but it helps to back up that so ppl don't say it's a fluke, but LA had 6 missed postseasons before this, another after and a 1st Rd exit. Ppl diminish the bubble for many reasons but I do because of this.
That's because of not being healthy, which everyone had the same advantage of time off before the bubble so not counting that ring is crazy
miami wasnt healthy @@kiloetry5897
Wrong
But the same teams were in the final four this year 🤔
@@aswanwilliam Is that in rebuttal to something? My point was different from what you're bringing up🤔
You make that Patreon and that Pandemic rant and you got my Patreon sub man
Oh I can't wait to make a video on it. Appreciate you so much for being here!
I did not know summer league rings were a thing. Geez we really are a participation trophy generation.
that clip with steven adams man…🤣 bron always makes it so hard to root for him
I respectfully disagree. The Pandemic was the best thing to happen to LA sports. Neither the Dodgers or Lakers have even sniffed a championship since
Exactly. I would argue the Lakers last season were a better team than the 2020 Lakers. And they embarrassed. The pandemic was a gift
"We're living in a bloody resort" lol. lebron doing so much with that 2020 was a difficult championship shit. Like bro you dont have to defend yourself so much you are multiple time champion
As a Lakers' fan, the only reason why people really dismiss the bubble because they talk about it like it's the most difficult championship ever.
Every team played under the same & favorable circumstances. First, everyone had 4 months rest. Secondly, none of the teams traveled while inside the bubble & there were no fans. Another interesting tidbit was that arguably a quarter of the players didn't want to be there.
It certainly made for an interesting playoffs though.
For me the 2011 Mavs championship run was the hardest
_"Every team played under the same and favorable circumstances"_ ...hmmm. Uh no, WRONG. the defending champ doesn't even play a single tournament/playoff game in their own country (!!) and what do ya know...a Florida team made the finals. Must have been a total coincidence that the Heat to got so far...right?
(and I'm in L.A., been a Lakers season ticket holder going back to 15 years ago)
From what the players say traveling has been the issue. So really the bubble was better for them because they can rest better.
The NBA bubble is a business at the end of the day. Everyone had a fair chance to get a ring, if it was a small market, people would complain. Big markets, lots would complain, the point is, it was a fair tournament, the Lakers just faced what the competition was in front of them, and they won. Simple as that.
😂😂😂😂” the bag said 3 minutes but some of them are still cold …where’s my personal chef??😩😥”
The part that people forget about this standing check out there first couple of games in the beginning they played the rockets 4 times then kings. They played nobodies for the first month. They were given a easy schedule
I respect what others gotta say, but as a Lakers fan that shit counts, idc.
Great stuff man! Very entertaining and very funny!
If there is anyone who thinks taking months off, not being allowed to practice as a team, having to move to and live in a hotel and not having a crowd or home court didn’t impact the results then they’re just not willing to think critically about it.
I have a hard time believing with those circumstances every playoff series would bear the same result.
Guys were not giving the same effort for various reasons, it also benefitted some players (TJ Warren comes to mind). The season was cobbled together to recoup money that would’ve been lost, that doesn’t mean it is the same competitively as every other playoffs.
Somebody had to win, but it is entirely disingenuous and naive to pretend like it’s the same as every other championship. Idk how many circumstances one would have to change for some people to accept that.
Wait a sec, two things:
- so... the RAPTORS had it every bit as good as the Heat, eh? Were the Lakers or Heat not able to play a single playoff or tourney game in their home country, also? Were they defending their title that year, too?
- LeBron found '20 so difficult because _nobody cared to watch him.... it starved his hangry ego.
it’s easily one of the weakest rings of all time- fitting for a fake-king.
Idk why the media insists on pushing a crybaby, self proclaimed king down people throats
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Dynamo, u are ignoring the many intangibles about the 2020 championship.
The numbers that Jimmy used don't account for everything. Statistics can't be used to capture every difficulty in regards to a championship.
Like professional players nowadays need their staff. Need their nutritionist and chef. In order to performance at peak performance, elite performance.
Especially for a man's of Lebron age. Half the reason for his longetivty is his rigerous care for himself
the bubble ring doesn't count and saying that it does count is the equivalent of saying in game tournament counts as a championship.
Naw I wouldn't have considered it a true NBA final championship no matter who won. In fact we've been gaslit into thinking it was always considered a NBA Finals.
In truth before the teams going up had even won their side of the conference - it was called "The NBA Bubble Championship" And had I known this be a problem in the future I'd have saved clips on ESPN and articles... even the logo they had leading up to it. Once Lebron entered the picture it became "NBA Finals: Bubble Championship" then finally just NBA Finals.
The bubble is hands down the lowest viewed finals 😂😂
overall I thought this video was good... but honestly the bubble slander is out of control. The NBA has an 82 game season... there are plenty of nights when players do not want to be there. Pretending that most of the teams were just going through the motions is super disingenuous. I watched the majority of the playoffs during the bubble, and I can tell it was some of the best basketball I have watched in the NBA. It wasn't just randoms that were going off, but many stars were in their bags... I think this is due the fact that they were cut off from fan distractions and outside distractions. I think the bubble ring was one of toughest NBA rings not because of the 50 win teams, but because most players were locked in.. and the ones that didn't want to be there either didn't show up or went home early. lol Even though Lebron didn't cut through a bunch of 55 win teams in order to win that ring. I can say many of the players played at a real high level. Most of the people that criticized the bubble didn't watch the games. Which makes sense because casual basketball fans are always the loudest in the room. lol
"What i just gave you was the icing. You ready for the cake?" ..... #Sensational
Even if you do count it it’s still the most easiest ring of all time no fans no traveling no home-court advantage not to mention they already travel and stay in hotels half of the season so it’s not like there’s something uncommon occurring they go on road trips for at least 2 to 3 weeks so an extended road trip is basically all it was
No homecourt advantage is a disadvantage if you're a high seeded team, The Bucks and Clippers and Celtics lost to lower seeded teams playing on a neutral court helps the underdogs and hurts the the top teams.The Lakers were the only top five seed to make the finals.
The reason I discount the Lakers bubble ring is that they never won jack schitt in the surrounding years. If they had a string of contending seasons that included the bubble ring, then fine, call yourself a dynasty and count the ring.
But when you go lottery, weird ring, 1st round, lottery.... the ring seems more like a blip, a fluke, a freak occurrence frrom a mid team. You can't go calling yourself a champion if the only time you won was under wonky-ass circumstances.
Looking at that as a real championship is joke. If Jokic and the Nuggets would have somehow won it, the narrative would have shifted. The championship was set up for the Lakers especially after Kobe's passing. They did not experience any of the playoff atmosphere that one gets. The biggest problem though is that in the subsequent seasons, the Lakers were first rounded and missed the playoffs and any and everything that happens in a normal NBA season occured. This season they beat two teams which were dysfunctional and the moment they faced a good one, they got swept. Not even a 6 game series.
The story of LeBron's career, who we are supposed to believe to be the best in the world, is that when he wins, so much things must go wrong for his opponent but when he loses, it is the cleanest loss ever, no contest. Now if he had gone to the Finals in 2021 or the WCF and put on a good show, then maybe people would take it seriously.
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had key players miss alot games with injuries .If Lebron and AD played every game and the Lakers struggled you would have a point. They did make the conference finals this year and probably would have had homecourt advantage if Lebron and AD didn't miss significant time. Lebron and AD at 100 percent can beat anyone .
@@robertwhittaker1833 but here is the deal though, that is a normal NBA season were numerous factors like injuries can affect teams. Look at the 2022 Warriors, that team should have won 65+ games, but because of injuries, which is what happens when you've been competing at a high level in the NBA for 5 years plus, they only got 53. Also the Lakeshow last year had more problems than Bron and AD missing games. AD was carrying that team and LeBron was severely fatigued and had a relatively poor performance in the playoffs. You give them three months off and then start the playoffs and the Lakers are probably a championship team, which is what happened in the bubble.
100% agree regarding the organisation and logistics and management of the bubble. You voiced my words. I couldn't help thinking at the time, ooh f&CK, Adam Silver you're going to be popular, you weren't supposed to demonstrate how efficient and professional we actually can be, nobody is supposed to know that we are capable and can with drama and excuses get shit relatively easily. Jeez Adam, you really f&cked us all on that one, now people are going to expect government and civil services to operate as effectively. (Thankfully, people somehow managed to forget about that side of things or didn't notice. So it didn't catch on. - the curse of being to good - no one realised there was no drama - I guess that's what makes it forgettable),
I love that the Lakers won, I love it that Dwight Howard, and JaVale McGee got their rings. The youngsters Kuzma and Schroeder, did their bit well and Im glad they won a ring. I love the fact that Gianni's younger brother Kostas was also part of this team, which means he was an NBA Champion before his brother..
But the story I love the most is the one, where a player was brought up from the G-league, came off the bench in the regular season, to be in the starting lineup in the final championship game, he is all heart, does everything asked of him, and more, especially at crucial times, He is a coach's dream player from the point of being a hard worker, eager to learn, a great team player, great attitude, delivers every time, gutsy, underrated, underestimated,, humble and loves the game. Started the season in the G-league & ended it a NBA Champion, and has a ring., just for this player alone I'm thrilled the Lakers won, (the rest are the cherries on top).
And let us not forget Luca, it may only have been 7 games, but goddamn he made them exciting and great basketball to watch.
Before the shutdown, I think Raps were also 2nd in the east, post-Kawhi. Siakam and Lowry were All-Stars and Nurse was coaching.
At some after the ASG and before shutdown (Last game was Raptors-Jazz), Siakam injured his shoulder and played like ass in the Bubble, and Toronto still took Boston to 7 and almost won that series after sweeping the Nets.
People don't respect their championship either, but they were hooping until the pandemic and still had a decent playoff run defending their title.