She didn’t deserve to get 27 years she got a raw deal. They were terrorising her and she was fearful. The boyfriend got away Scott free and he instigated everything. A very sad outcome for a big mistake.
Well this should be ruled self defense after all they did to her for soooo long! They’ve abused her tortured her assaulted her harassed her stalked her, anyone would have had it ! Well guess they should have left her alone ! She’s called the police many times, but nothing was ever done! This was self defense!
No stand your ground... her life was not in immediate danger.. she approached the car with the knife. From her own words. So if anyone was defending herself it was Sarah
Not only did she go up to the car with a knife, she said the girl seen the knife and backed up & she lunged forward anyways. Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
From reading her face, Rachel looks like the type you don't want to mess with. Sarah Ludemann was antagonistic and along with some of her friends, harassed Rachel - even at work. The knife was unnecessary, though. Was there any reason for Rachel to assume Sarah and her friends were that dangerous? Most likely not. Why were they even at Rachel's house? Sarah and her friends were no angels, but there's definitely something off about Rachel. What a tragedy for all involved. Sarah's mother gave a statement at Rachel's trial - I felt so badly for her. We're not perfect beings and I'm sure we've all done something to someone at some point in our lives. RIP Sarah
@@shovelmastaflash Rachel Wade should NOT be in prison right now. These detectives bullied her into a confession that they know was false since they ignored the situation until it blew up into this and wanted to protect themselves and ruin the life of someone who acted in self defense.
If everyone was judged on whether or not they sound like they’re telling the truth, there would be way less people incarcerated. The body of evidence in this case is damning. She’s putting on the waterworks now for the investigators but she’s guilty as sin of premeditated murder. She told on herself by leaving her victim a voicemail saying she was going to kill her.
Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
This young person in the link below who was also 19 and who was also essentially a first timer (only had one minor arrest prior to this for a couple misdemeanors) got an attorney and their case turned out very different from Rachel Wade. I want to point out that she had nothing to do with the murders for which she was initially charged with and was asleep in her apartment 15 minutes away from where the murders took place and had no prior knowledge beforehand that the murders were even going to take place. When she was arrested (she and three others were taken with a SAWT team!) and brought to the police station she demanded an attorney and told hem "I want my lawyer. I want an attorney I'm not talking to you guys." She did not allow them to make her say something that could have connected her to the murders that she wasn't even present at the time they happened. When she did speak to an attorney, although he advised to to go talk to the detectives based on the nature of the case (sometimes it can be beneficial if done properly and a mean done properly!) he made sure she was prepared and they also made a written statement about what happened as well. In addition her lawyer went with her as well. The charges were reduced from murder to accessory and although she still had to serve 18 months, it is a far cry from facing the death penalty or life without parole or the 27 years that Rachel Wade had. When under investigation (prior to an official arrest) or when fresh after arrest, get an attorney and refuse to speak to detectives. Just because your 19 and haven't been arrested before or only had minor arrests before your arrested for something major doesn't mean that you can't get an attorney. It is something that needs to be taught in schools and unfortunately it isn't. "She refused to say anything until she’d spoken to an attorney...." www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-time/chelsi-griffin-alex-turner-murder-parents-jason-bourne
Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
@@lms4712 First of all she was being stalked and harassed. Second Sarah attacked her FIRST and she was defending herself. Third these detectives were aggressive and trying to get her to admit that the killing was intentional and premeditated if you listen to the questions and the their tone. Never talk to detectives without first speaking to an attorney. By the way I know I;'m being nosy but how old are you since if you are around her age just imagine what an interrogation like this is like since she is effectively a teenager.
@@wilsonlincoln280 She was being stalked & harassed & yet all the physical evidence points to Rachel Wade being the aggressor. Anyone who is stalked or harassed & is afraid does not grab a weapon & proceed out of a safe enviroment & towards the one who has been stalking you. If she was so afraid & so taunted, why would she continue to reach out to Sarah? The detectives were not aggressive & they were not trying to get her to admit to premeditated murder. She did that all on her own. Anyone who listens to the voicemails left by Rachel Wade would think immediately what had taken place was 100% premeditated. She clearly states more than once she is going to murder her. ruclips.net/video/2B3JN4n1VzY/видео.html Of course she is going to retract the statement on the voicemail that she didn't want her dead. She killed her & now she is in a lot of trouble, what else is she supposed to say? Everyone in prison is either innocent, set up, case of mistaken identity or whatever excuse they try to spin.🙄Also when someone premeditates a murder, they hide evidence. Rachel Wade threw that knife on top of the neighbors roof & sat on the front porch of the neighbors house waiting for the officers. There was no denying what she had done. Even on the 911 call, both parties friends had identified her as being the attacker. Rachel clearly was jealous & stabbed her out of hate, rage & jealousy. She said she was going to & she did. Even in a prison interview she said she should have sat down with her to talk it out instead of attacking her. That they should have gotten together & turned on him. That was her regret 😐 Speaks volumes in regards to if she meant to stab her or not. Now in regards to her sentence, she should be thanking her lucky stars she will be able to get out & still live a productive life one day. Sarah's parents will never see her again. There is no one day Sarah coming home & reuniting with family. It should be that if you take a life, you give yours in that person's place. Be it life in prison or death penalty depending on the crime. As far as my age goes, I'm just old enough to understand & realize what she did was extremely egregious & her sentence was well deserved. Even her own attorney stated it was very fair.
@@lms4712 So you are young. I hope you spend time in prison to find out what it is like you a young person. I should ad that I'm amazed that you didn't fid these angry and mean detectives aggressive--they were very aggressive. They were putting pressure on a teenager knowing she would break down more easily than an older adult. Again she was scared and was being attacked by Sarah and her friends and she accidentally stabbed her. These detectives are taking pleasure in getting her charged with murder that they know that she didn't commit. She was harassed and the police did nothing to help so they put her in prison to cover their asses. I should ad, here is a story of a young woman her same age who was arrested (with a SAWT team!) and brought into a small room to be interrogated by detectives. There were big holes in the murder charges that were logged against her--cell phone GPS and camera footage showed that she was in her apartment asleep at the time of the murders and at her apartment 15 minutes away and after digging through her emails, social media, texts and interviewing multiple people including roommates, friends classmates at the University she attended all showed that she had no prior knowledge of the murders that were to take place. She was smarter than Rachel Wade and told the detectives "I want a lawyers, I want my attorney, I'm not talking to you guys" and when she did go in to talk to them after speaking to an attorney and after the attorney advised that she do so, she had her attorney present with her and he helped her with what to say and made a written statement so that she wouldn't say anything that could pin her to the murder. The murder charges were quickly dropped based off of the information she gave that confirmed that she was not present and unlike Rachel who is doing 27 years, she did 18 months for accessory after the fact and has been out of prison for 3 years, off parole for 2. The reason I talk about that case is because the police love to interrogate people right after arrest or prior to arrest and without an attorney while the person is in shock. However people who are in shock often say things that are untrue that incriminate themselves just to please detectives since they aren't able to think rationally. That includes Rachel Wade. "She refused to say anything until she’d spoken to an attorney...." www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-time/chelsi-griffin-alex-turner-murder-parents-jason-bourne
@@wilsonlincoln280 Okay first off she was not arrested by "SWAT" She was taken in by the police just like she had stated in her interrogation video that same night. Remember when the interrogator asked why she had changed her shirt & she said she didn't & that it was ripped off of her. She was sitting on the front porch smoking a cigarette & it was noted she was calm & said that she was done as the police walked up to her. A SWAT team did not come and retrieve her. Not sure where you got that information at. She wasn't this innocent young teenager, she was 19 1/2 years old. Old enough to know what the hell she was doing & old enough to be tried as an adult. You act as if they took this terrified child into a secluded room & these rough, mean & aggressive detectives cornered her & rang her out to dry, making her confess to something she didn't do. There were plenty of witnesses there stating they seen what she had done & the biggest bombshell of them all is that she freaking admitted it herself. I mean, I'm not sure what your angel is here other than the fact one person got less time than another for taking a human beings life because they had an attorney. Detectives, officers & those in law enforcement like to integrate others immediately because that is when the information is most fresh & can be recalled easiest. This happens with both the victim & the criminal. You need to go back & do some serious research on this story because a few things you have stated are completely false. Either you have been misinformed or are choosing not to believe straight up facts. Either way, she murdered someone else out of a jealous rage. She is paying the price for it. She is lucky she isn't doing life. I have this feeling you're they type of person to believe Jodi Aries & Casey Anthony are innocent women as well. Again I don't know what my age has anything to do with my input on this case here or the facts stated in general, I can guarantee you that 9/10 I am older than you & if not it really doesn't matter. I do implore you to use spell check though, It's an extremely useful tool. 😉
She didn’t deserve to get 27 years she got a raw deal. They were terrorising her and she was fearful. The boyfriend got away Scott free and he instigated everything. A very sad outcome for a big mistake.
That’s why you don’t carry a knife
Well this should be ruled self defense after all they did to her for soooo long! They’ve abused her tortured her assaulted her harassed her stalked her, anyone would have had it ! Well guess they should have left her alone ! She’s called the police many times, but nothing was ever done! This was self defense!
No stand your ground... her life was not in immediate danger.. she approached the car with the knife. From her own words. So if anyone was defending herself it was Sarah
Not only did she go up to the car with a knife, she said the girl seen the knife and backed up & she lunged forward anyways. Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
Way to go interrogator you fed the defense. Please find a new job.
From reading her face, Rachel looks like the type you don't want to mess with. Sarah Ludemann was antagonistic and along with some of her friends, harassed Rachel - even at work. The knife was unnecessary, though. Was there any reason for Rachel to assume Sarah and her friends were that dangerous? Most likely not. Why were they even at Rachel's house? Sarah and her friends were no angels, but there's definitely something off about Rachel. What a tragedy for all involved. Sarah's mother gave a statement at Rachel's trial - I felt so badly for her. We're not perfect beings and I'm sure we've all done something to someone at some point in our lives. RIP Sarah
Whatever you say, detective.
@@shovelmastaflash Rachel Wade should NOT be in prison right now. These detectives bullied her into a confession that they know was false since they ignored the situation until it blew up into this and wanted to protect themselves and ruin the life of someone who acted in self defense.
She sounds like she is telling the truth.
Read “A Knife in the Heart” - it’s a detailed book chronicling the events leading up to this murder. It might make you think twice about that...
@@Dark_hollow1XD thanks for the info. I just picked up the book on kindle. If anyone wants to know, it’s written by a Michael benson
shes not gonna see this bro
If everyone was judged on whether or not they sound like they’re telling the truth, there would be way less people incarcerated. The body of evidence in this case is damning. She’s putting on the waterworks now for the investigators but she’s guilty as sin of premeditated murder. She told on herself by leaving her victim a voicemail saying she was going to kill her.
Whoa.
Also, thank you for including such a detailed description. Very much appreciated!
Her story made no sense
You
You do not take the Law in your own hands period.
Free Rachel wade!!!
Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
Very sad and tragic..so young..indeed call 911 she cal her bf..ermm
Are you joking?
Agreed. Don't jump ppl if u don't want to risk the person fighting back
No lawyer.. smh
Not everyone is a professional criminal. She's a first-timer.
This young person in the link below who was also 19 and who was also essentially a first timer (only had one minor arrest prior to this for a couple misdemeanors) got an attorney and their case turned out very different from Rachel Wade. I want to point out that she had nothing to do with the murders for which she was initially charged with and was asleep in her apartment 15 minutes away from where the murders took place and had no prior knowledge beforehand that the murders were even going to take place. When she was arrested (she and three others were taken with a SAWT team!) and brought to the police station she demanded an attorney and told hem "I want my lawyer. I want an attorney I'm not talking to you guys." She did not allow them to make her say something that could have connected her to the murders that she wasn't even present at the time they happened. When she did speak to an attorney, although he advised to to go talk to the detectives based on the nature of the case (sometimes it can be beneficial if done properly and a mean done properly!) he made sure she was prepared and they also made a written statement about what happened as well. In addition her lawyer went with her as well. The charges were reduced from murder to accessory and although she still had to serve 18 months, it is a far cry from facing the death penalty or life without parole or the 27 years that Rachel Wade had. When under investigation (prior to an official arrest) or when fresh after arrest, get an attorney and refuse to speak to detectives. Just because your 19 and haven't been arrested before or only had minor arrests before your arrested for something major doesn't mean that you can't get an attorney. It is something that needs to be taught in schools and unfortunately it isn't. "She refused to say anything until she’d spoken to an attorney...."
www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-time/chelsi-griffin-alex-turner-murder-parents-jason-bourne
FREE RACHEL WADE!!!! THESE DETECTIVES NEED TO BE FIRED FOR THIS!!!!
Shs also left a voicemail telling her she was going to kill her & not to mess with her. She said she was going to kill her multiple times on the voicemail. Tragic & lifechanging events landed her where she is today. She murdered someone & is paying the consequences for that, but her parents can still visit her. The parents of the other girl will never see their daughter again.
@@lms4712 First of all she was being stalked and harassed. Second Sarah attacked her FIRST and she was defending herself. Third these detectives were aggressive and trying to get her to admit that the killing was intentional and premeditated if you listen to the questions and the their tone. Never talk to detectives without first speaking to an attorney. By the way I know I;'m being nosy but how old are you since if you are around her age just imagine what an interrogation like this is like since she is effectively a teenager.
@@wilsonlincoln280 She was being stalked & harassed & yet all the physical evidence points to Rachel Wade being the aggressor. Anyone who is stalked or harassed & is afraid does not grab a weapon & proceed out of a safe enviroment & towards the one who has been stalking you. If she was so afraid & so taunted, why would she continue to reach out to Sarah? The detectives were not aggressive & they were not trying to get her to admit to premeditated murder. She did that all on her own. Anyone who listens to the voicemails left by Rachel Wade would think immediately what had taken place was 100% premeditated. She clearly states more than once she is going to murder her. ruclips.net/video/2B3JN4n1VzY/видео.html Of course she is going to retract the statement on the voicemail that she didn't want her dead. She killed her & now she is in a lot of trouble, what else is she supposed to say? Everyone in prison is either innocent, set up, case of mistaken identity or whatever excuse they try to spin.🙄Also when someone premeditates a murder, they hide evidence. Rachel Wade threw that knife on top of the neighbors roof & sat on the front porch of the neighbors house waiting for the officers. There was no denying what she had done. Even on the 911 call, both parties friends had identified her as being the attacker. Rachel clearly was jealous & stabbed her out of hate, rage & jealousy. She said she was going to & she did. Even in a prison interview she said she should have sat down with her to talk it out instead of attacking her. That they should have gotten together & turned on him. That was her regret 😐 Speaks volumes in regards to if she meant to stab her or not. Now in regards to her sentence, she should be thanking her lucky stars she will be able to get out & still live a productive life one day. Sarah's parents will never see her again. There is no one day Sarah coming home & reuniting with family. It should be that if you take a life, you give yours in that person's place. Be it life in prison or death penalty depending on the crime. As far as my age goes, I'm just old enough to understand & realize what she did was extremely egregious & her sentence was well deserved. Even her own attorney stated it was very fair.
@@lms4712 So you are young. I hope you spend time in prison to find out what it is like you a young person. I should ad that I'm amazed that you didn't fid these angry and mean detectives aggressive--they were very aggressive. They were putting pressure on a teenager knowing she would break down more easily than an older adult. Again she was scared and was being attacked by Sarah and her friends and she accidentally stabbed her. These detectives are taking pleasure in getting her charged with murder that they know that she didn't commit. She was harassed and the police did nothing to help so they put her in prison to cover their asses. I should ad, here is a story of a young woman her same age who was arrested (with a SAWT team!) and brought into a small room to be interrogated by detectives. There were big holes in the murder charges that were logged against her--cell phone GPS and camera footage showed that she was in her apartment asleep at the time of the murders and at her apartment 15 minutes away and after digging through her emails, social media, texts and interviewing multiple people including roommates, friends classmates at the University she attended all showed that she had no prior knowledge of the murders that were to take place. She was smarter than Rachel Wade and told the detectives "I want a lawyers, I want my attorney, I'm not talking to you guys" and when she did go in to talk to them after speaking to an attorney and after the attorney advised that she do so, she had her attorney present with her and he helped her with what to say and made a written statement so that she wouldn't say anything that could pin her to the murder. The murder charges were quickly dropped based off of the information she gave that confirmed that she was not present and unlike Rachel who is doing 27 years, she did 18 months for accessory after the fact and has been out of prison for 3 years, off parole for 2. The reason I talk about that case is because the police love to interrogate people right after arrest or prior to arrest and without an attorney while the person is in shock. However people who are in shock often say things that are untrue that incriminate themselves just to please detectives since they aren't able to think rationally. That includes Rachel Wade.
"She refused to say anything until she’d spoken to an attorney...." www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-time/chelsi-griffin-alex-turner-murder-parents-jason-bourne
@@wilsonlincoln280 Okay first off she was not arrested by "SWAT" She was taken in by the police just like she had stated in her interrogation video that same night. Remember when the interrogator asked why she had changed her shirt & she said she didn't & that it was ripped off of her. She was sitting on the front porch smoking a cigarette & it was noted she was calm & said that she was done as the police walked up to her. A SWAT team did not come and retrieve her. Not sure where you got that information at. She wasn't this innocent young teenager, she was 19 1/2 years old. Old enough to know what the hell she was doing & old enough to be tried as an adult. You act as if they took this terrified child into a secluded room & these rough, mean & aggressive detectives cornered her & rang her out to dry, making her confess to something she didn't do. There were plenty of witnesses there stating they seen what she had done & the biggest bombshell of them all is that she freaking admitted it herself. I mean, I'm not sure what your angel is here other than the fact one person got less time than another for taking a human beings life because they had an attorney. Detectives, officers & those in law enforcement like to integrate others immediately because that is when the information is most fresh & can be recalled easiest. This happens with both the victim & the criminal. You need to go back & do some serious research on this story because a few things you have stated are completely false. Either you have been misinformed or are choosing not to believe straight up facts. Either way, she murdered someone else out of a jealous rage. She is paying the price for it. She is lucky she isn't doing life. I have this feeling you're they type of person to believe Jodi Aries & Casey Anthony are innocent women as well. Again I don't know what my age has anything to do with my input on this case here or the facts stated in general, I can guarantee you that 9/10 I am older than you & if not it really doesn't matter. I do implore you to use spell check though, It's an extremely useful tool. 😉