David Hickman demonstrates the 5-valve C Trumpet
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2014
- Clifford Blackburn built this prototype C trumpet which is proving to be an exceptional instrument. It plays in the keys of D, D-flat, C, and B-natural.
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ah so this is an actual 5 valve trumpet review
Augie Bruno yeah, it's not a bath toy
HeckuvaMedusa8 AYE! Trent Hamilton baby!
+Big Chief my point exactly
+BigChief THE GREAT loser
Trent was probably being sarcastic lol
Who remembers Trent Hamilton’s review
Silver and Brass his six valve was ridiculous
Trent Hamilton is insane, he is on tons of medication, and pontificating from his bunker/garage, anyone who listens to him, is on the verge of hornamania......."Saps at Sea" is an example......
Screw the trumpet. This player is amazing!!!!
Agreed
Didn’t think I’d see saxologic here...
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Finding yet another ancient Saxologic comment
Great job David, incredible instrument, but your playing is so beautiful!!!!!
Can’t believe anyone on here didn’t say hey to Arturo I actually started on trumpet but have moved on to euphonium love it
I actually want to be a band director one day
ARTURO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want one of these now. ten minutes ago I didn't know it existed, but now I NEED it.
What a beautiful tone
Chris Barron His tone is quite something to behold, no doubt about that one man.
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Just hearing the trumpet alone in Tchailovsky's 4th made me realize how high it actually is
I have six Blackburn trumpets...and once spent a few days with David Hickman. These two men are brilliant and have made an extraordinary contribution. David is such a gifted trumpeter. Elliott Oppenheim, Trilllium Brass Trio
I play the 7 valved electric triangle, a vastly superior instrument.
is not a fair comment for an excellent video
Drunk Sixth Grader LMAO
This seems like it would help the intermediate player more than an advanced like Mr. Hickman. I have a feeling he doesn't have any problem hitting pure notes on the regular C trumpet.
this I the ultimate transposing instrument
That instrument sounds great, at least in your hands!
No indication in the sound when you switch from one key to another. Wow!
The regular three valve slides are cut to D, which means triggering a tad more than usual when playing in D-flat, C, and B-natural. . . but not a big deal.
David Hickman why not do what tubas do? 4th valve brings it down a P4. 5th valve is a flat major 2nd
Man, you have a fantastic trumpet sound. Thanks for introducing me to the 5 valve trumpet.
What a great presentation. And truly wonderful seeing a new innovation in trumpet design. Thanks for sharing!
dans les annees 60 don ellis joait sur une trompette 4 pistons qu il avait mis au point avec le fabricant holton rien de nouveau!!!mais belle trompette
I'm stunned with the tone, that is truly exceptional. The bell is a touch larger, and a somewhat different shape, but there's no mistaking that fabulous sound. I'm really stunned.
Your tone is absolutely beautiful.
I remember attending a clinic given by David Hickman in 1978 when I was just starting out on trumpet. I still remember his emphatic teaching on forming a correct embouchure.
David Hickman is one of the greatest trumpeters on the planet today.
So beautiful Prof. Hickman. Many thanks.
David, great playing! And a very cool invention for the orchestal trumpet player.
Bravo, great playing and a visionary instrument.
I'm sold!!! Now, if only I could play the trumpet...
Great playing, and what an awesome horn- Vacchiano would have loved that instrument!
Oh wow what a gifted master..you are real awsome..my god..first class..absolutley spectacular
Very interesting instrument, but great presentation. Bravissimo David
Wow, what a great idea, sounds fantastic and doesn't seem to have the turning issues I'd think a conversion like that would! (although maybe you've just compensated for them) Well done!
I'm using your speed reading book. It's great! Thank you.
thank you David Hickman, Professor of Trumpet at ASU
A great instrument. But more importantly a great player. Incredible
Great Playing! Nice horn!
Awesome trumpet! That would be so helpful! Now if I could ever afford one...
im still amazed at that first piece im like what the
Generally speaking the High G Sharp in Pictures at an Exhibition is played with the same fingering as your Middle G Sharp with the 2nd and 3rd Valves but oftentimes that High G Sharp can sound out of Tune depending on the Trumpet. Rotary Valve Trumpets often have Keys to make those notes play more in tune.
Very cool instrument. I wish I had the kind of grasp of keys that you have. Not to mention every other trumpet skill!
God that's one of the best mahler 3rd's I've ever heard
Extraordinary. What a difference when you can compensate for the battle of human fingers versus lengths of pipe! Alas, the bottom line: what's this baby gonna cost me?
$7500
I can't believe until now I've not been aware of a 5 valve trumpet. You would think that it would have at least some popularity with orchestral players. The video was made almost 5 years ago and only now surfaced. How did it get buried???
Over 205,000 views. Maybe YOU are buried?
Great stuff, Dave! I'd advance you to the next round!
Every note is 1, when you have 4 keys to play in
As someone who is used to playing a 5-valve instrument (tuba), I feel like the way this is approached is a bit over complicated. Why not just think of it all in terms of C trumpet and then just use the alternate fingerings where necessary rather than thinking of using the 4th and 5th valves "changing keys"?
Trumpets don't read music the way Tubas do and he's not using the valves the way a Tuba would. It's more intuitive (and more typical) to transpose on the fly or at home. An ascending valve or an extra 2nd valve is a bit strange to think about compared to something like a 4th valve. Not as much of a deal on the Tuba where the composer just gives you the pitches and it's your job to make them happen somehow or other. Everything is fingerings in that case.
There used to be a similar trick for Bb Trumpet where they would get music in A and pull the tuning slide for playing with more typical musicians. Nice way to avoid playing in ridiculous keys.
@@Markworth so trumpets make it themselves difficult by transposing? (note: I know the transposing is so that switching to C/Bb/D trumpet makes it easier when given parts in their respective keys)
Wouldn't it just be easier to know for each key/fingering system to know what pitch is meant to be played, as tubas and trombones do?
@@wiebemartens1030 The way that bass clef instruments read music is neither easier, nor particularly beneficial. Generally, if a TC instrument is legitimately transposing, it's just a single step up or down, and that's not difficult at all. I'm hardly any kind of musician, and it's nothing for me to read music in C on a Bb instrument, or vice versa! The fact that Tuba players waste time learning an entire fingering set just to play both CC and BBb Tubas is pretty confusing to me.
Instruments reading treble clef are written for in such a way that the player is always presented enough information to know what partial the note is, and what fingering it should be played on. That is far more useful to me than being given the pitch, because I can adjust to "hearing" that pitch pretty easily. Instruments reading bass clef are only given pitches and expected to make them happen. This completely ignores the behaviors of the instrument and can present players extremely difficult situations that they have to sort out on the fly. Good example, the Miestersinger Tuba solo. If you play it on Eb Tuba, the trill is now what my TC brain sees as an F# to a G#, which is both really unusual, and hard as hell to play. Do you hold 2 and trill 3, or do you try to hit it on 123 and trill 1? Well, unless I'm reading it for the 100th time, it probably doesn't matter. I'm already wasting brain cells adding 3 sharps to the key signature and transposing all of the stupid bass clef accidentals, so I'm going to botch it because it was meant for F Tuba.
This is something I had no interest in but clicked on from somewhere unrelated. Now I want to start playing the trumpet again.
i want one of these now.
What an exquisite sound. So clear and warm at the same time. I know nothing about brass but I have a feeling this may be an instrument that eventually finds its way into many trumpet players' studios.
Ole,
Yes, of course I am familiar with the Franquin and Ghitalla models. Mine is not in the same keys as the Franquin one, but is similar to Ghitalla's early prototype. Did you read the pamphlet on my HME website?
Dave
AUAAAAA ... Mr Hickman .. the best.
very nice
Bravo!
Absolutely Brilliant!! Love the Pictures, and Mahler excerpts! I assume that new fangled trumpet Hickman plays with such virtuosity is a one off custom horn. Who made it?
THAT IS CLEVER!
I am ordering one!!!!
I myself am a David Hickman. I started on trumpet but moved on to tuba. What a coincidence!
David Hickman what
Lol no ur not
Fake
Edit: Thanks for pointing that out @Chef Boyardee I legit thought it was yet another faker lmao
guys hes just saying that his name is also david hickman chill
Chef Boyardee ohh!! Sorry. Didnt think of it worded like that.
Does anybody know exactly what that plastic rimmed flugel mouthpiece is? I love the tone.
GREAT!!!
Question: doesn't a D trumpet normally have a smaller bore and bell than a C trumpet? So, with this five-valve trumpet switched to play in D, you in effect have the larger bore and bell of the C trumpet and so a fuller, richer tone than a regular D trumpet?
So the second and forth valve do the same? Or are they tuned slightly different?
So in tune...
That’s AWESOME!!!!!!!! But I have to ask how much is the musician. Your tone is wonderful.
Great ! Could you make a trumpet that it can play easily 5 octaves ? ?
wish i could afford that!!!
samsing2300 ikr
you never were confused with the tunings, specially in concerts... so many possibilities can bring some risks
Do you find yourself only thinking in terms of keys/transposing? I can see that one might also think about it more as having extra alternate fingerings. So rather than thinking of A as G/Open on the "D Side", you could just think about A as having the alternate fingering of open + D slide. etc. Do you find you find yourself thinking like that? But what an awesome instrument. I want one!
I think that we are looking at a D trumpet with 5 descending valves. Or am I wrong? Any one for Eb trumpet with 6 valves? You might need more fingers but could be useful! Or go for the Vienna Phil solution. 3 valves but with mutiple safety keys. Weidinger would be so excited to see his invention still being used.
4:48 One of the most beautiful things i have ever heard in my life. I'm an intermediate trumpet player I play on B flat trumpet and i wish i could play as good as you. I Have problems reaching high notes like G and E just above the staff line. Any tips? I have to play taps for memorial day.
As soon as you make sure to nail your lower register, you will be able to play extremely high. So you first must go low. Also my first mouth piece after the 7c was the 6a4a. It has a shallower cup allowing high notes to be easier to play. However you lose a little tone from it. Congrats on the wonderful opportunity to play one of the most powerful songs on such an important day!
Thank you so much for the tips and the compliment!
+Mike i think I'm an intermediate too..i can play a the notes on the trumpet and squeak up to triple e, what i did was play whole notes softly from high e in the staff ,moving up the chromatic scale, then take short breakes and play quarter notes in the lower register and repeat. Hope you'll get it.
Mike SJ I
Mike SJ Air oh and also more air .
Nice job on Tableaux d'une exposition
MYBOYHICKMAN
Okay something nice and cool to play in D or in C ... , but what is the important aim from this trumpet , soo when the composer right for your note s he will make for you some notes in C and some in D ... help!
Wow. Singing, singing, singing. Wonderful. Reminds me (however different the designs are) of Ghitalla's. A wonder it's taken so long to take another run at a design improvement.
Lowering the key doesn`t actually change the pitch, it's just a mental thing
He's playing all of our show music! Pictures at an Exhibition AND Tchaikovsky
Sehr praktisch.Aber wie sieht es mit Intonation aus?
How long have you played trumpet
Maybe make one in Bb?
I never understood why the trumpet had not been modernized for.. ever. Adding an extra valve or 2 makes it a much better instrument. And you won't have to split your lips...
I am confused. Wouldn’t it be the same note? Is it just an easier fingering with the extensions?
I think so and also seems to help compensate for certain tuning discrepancies that need to be adjusted for with the embouchure
i would say that because of the compensation system you loose alot of volume because of the resistance
So is it just easier to switch the key of your instrument than to play the note in the original key?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no but it sounds better.
ok thx
lol that was 5 months ago
Yes. I think that's the entire point of his trumpet and demonstration. If you play trumpet, you already know that some notes are a little easier to play than others. Usually open notes are easier especially in the higher register. And they can have better intonation. There are lots of reasons why some notes may be a little off on intonation, but here is a big reason. The 2nd valve lowers a half step from open. The 1st valve lowers a full step from open. And the 3rd valve lowers one and a half steps from open. But that change in tubing length is related to the open trumpet. Now, imagine already having pressed down the third valve which now makes the trumpet "longer". Pressing the first valve down now adds a length that is a smaller percentage of that total than if the trumpet were open. It therefore lowers it less than a half step. So trumpets are designed to be a compromise to deal with this problem and others. Some notes are flat, some are sharp, and some are so far off that you have first and third valve slides to correct. Otherwise, you have to lip the note up or down. And, unlike a French horn player, we don't have the benefit of changing intonation a little with our hand placement in the bell.
i wish there was a trumpet that can let u play in D, C, Bb, and A
MUY BUENO
Hi David, great video but there is something I dont understand: when the trumpet is not in C, how can it play in tune? If for example it was in B wouldn`t the 1st, 2nd and maybe 3rd slides be too short, or too long if it was in D?
57dogsbody you need to transpose it to correspond to the key you change the trumpet to. In the scores he shows it tells you the transposed notes to play on that new key (the boxes on the first few times he played). But normally you will need to make adjustments on the fly, or note the changes based on the key you want to use for the piece or section you are going to use a different key in.
In case you don't understand transposing, a 'c' on a c trumpet is played the same way on a d trumpet (well any trumpet) but the pitch you are playing is a c and d respectfully. In his later examples, he would use the the 4th and 5th valves for easier fingering(same pitch but different notes in different keys) or to make the higher pitches to be easier to hit ( again same pitch but the notes are lower on a d trumpet then a c trumpet). In other words, the notes and thus fingering are different for each key of trumpet, but they both produce the same pitches.
I'm glad I play trombone. As I rarely need to do or worry about transposing.
You miss my point entirely. No matter what key the trumpet is built in all slides need to be a certain length for that key of trumpet to play in tune. So for example the slides on an Eb trumpet will be shorter than on a Bb trumpet (all of them) I am not talking about transposing here. See David Hickman`s comment below.
The valve slides are cut to D, so you need to trigger a bit more then usual when in other keys. DH
how much for this type of trumpet
What is the price in India. 5valuv.c.trumpet sir
Anyone know what the different mouthpieces he uses are?
He uses the "Hickman" Giddings and Webster... the other mouthpiece that has a white rim is a trumpet flugel mouthpiece but I can't remember the maker
"What key is your trumpet?"
"Yes"
Wow that’s quite a horn
I remember watching this video a while ago. Could have sworn I subscribed because I enjoyed the video. But apparently I didn't subscribe.... just fixed that oversight. 🙂
How does it respond in the extreme upper register?
I have a great range on mine
50 years sir. I have played almost all types of music and I will always love playing the trumpet as when played beautifully then the trumpet is truly an instrument of God.
I have a great range as I can hit notes well above a double C and have been doing that for many, many years. It is not hard to do once I figured it out. When I practice I work on range but I do not put stress on my embouchure and over time I was hitting double hi C with out much pressure at all. So I am okay there. The only thing that I have noticed though when I am aging that I have the tendency to not play quite as accurate as I once did but then things do slow down when a person ages. I still can play ballads well though.
I have those books John but thank you for giving me info anyway. I will always love playing the trumpet until I get so old that I cannot pick up the horn anymore.
Nice trumpet. Where can I buy a trumpet how like this?
Custom order through Blackburn
I would've liked the video, but he works for ASU. :/ As a University of Arizona fan, I couldn't bring myself to it.
How would one go about getting one?
+Sawyer Miller
Custom ordered through Blackburn Trumpets.
I only see 4 valves. Am I missing something?
4 valves in a row, plus a rotary valve in the tuning slide.
Great to hear and see you Dave! I know that Merri Franquin developed a 5 valve trumpet and that Armando Ghitalla also had one developed. Did you use any of those ideas in your trumpet? Btw, here is a picture of the Franquin trumpet from my website: abel.hive.no/trumpet/franquin/trumpet.html
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Would it sound alright playing jazz ? Or just classical
+Michael Dotson Probably just jazz because the key(s) it plays in are typically classical keys. Although if you found a jazz piece in one of them, I suppose it would work just fine, although I don't know if any of those exist.
Michael Dotson I'm sure it would be fine!
Jazz would probably sound good b/c of the smooth transposing
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Weimann is the solution!!!
Incase yall don't want to dig through the comments, it costs $7500
where do I buy one............. I want one!!
Blackburn Trumpets
David Hickman, thank you!
His face sure turns beet red!