Courtney Gripling is Gay | As Told By Ginger- Deep Dive

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  • Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025

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  • @watersoluble5871
    @watersoluble5871 2 дня назад +82

    When I was thirteen, around the time the show had its finale, I wrote a story in a beaten old composition notebook about Ginger coming back to her hometown to stop Courtney from getting married to some guy and they ran away together and somehow I thought I was straight until my 20s soooo

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  День назад +6

      that’s amazing lol I was not too happy with the finale

    • @JuliaH-c6f
      @JuliaH-c6f 17 часов назад

      ​​​@@georgie.monologues-z2d There's a homophobe on the loose in the comment section and they have taken it way too far. Their username seems to be "shimauta619" with an orange profile picture with an "S" on it.
      I might just report them, but I feel like that's too much. But they're really going too far I think.
      Didn't know where else to let you know except here.
      The way they responded to one comment stating, "This is important," looks like actual bullying.

    • @AzariahMarinaStarcaster
      @AzariahMarinaStarcaster 14 часов назад +2

      Vaguely similar story. I was really into Naruto growing up, and when I made a self-insert OC (because of course I did), I for some reason decided it was necessary to have Ino Yamanaka have a one-sided crush on my OC. And then later, when I got into the Total Drama franchise, I did the same thing again with Courtney.
      .... It took until my 2nd or 3rd year of high school to realize I liked girls. 😂

  • @d11j09l92
    @d11j09l92 День назад +27

    Dude, thank you so much for making this. Watching this as a kid, I immediately knew the lesbian OVERTONES in the “Courtneyisms” of the show. Arguably the most obvious lesbian character in children’s animation.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  День назад +3

      so so lesbian coded & im glad you enjoyed this, I wasn’t for sure how it’d go over with people lol

  • @bloodmooncomics2249
    @bloodmooncomics2249 2 дня назад +41

    I love how most people agree Dodie is a horrible friend.

  • @ABtheButterfly
    @ABtheButterfly 3 дня назад +51

    Courtney, Miranda, and Ginger feel like a love triangle between closeted Lesbain, a Bisexual, and a straight girl
    that's my headcanon Coutrney is Lesbain crushing on Ginger who is straight and oblivious to her feelings cause she doesn't/can't feel the same way, meanwhile, Miranda is also sapphic though I see her going both ways and is secretly in love with Courtney and ignoring she's obsessing over the straight girl
    which makes Courtney infatuation with Ginger a bit tragic cause even if she was allowed to be gay (ie the network allowed it) Ginger might have told her that she appreciated her friendship but doesn't feel romantic attraction to other girls

  • @kyumu
    @kyumu День назад +11

    my dude, I have no idea how I got here. I have never seen you or your channel, never seen this TV show, and I'm a gay man, the furthest thing from a lesbian- but oh boy I'm 30 mins in and I aint stoppin any time soon

  • @QueenoftheHorizon
    @QueenoftheHorizon 2 дня назад +17

    I suddenly need more content about Courtney being gay omg?? I never considered it but this is excellent. Excuse me while I reimagine the whole series with this lens 😩🤌🤌💖💓💗

  • @JustinaB-h9w
    @JustinaB-h9w 10 дней назад +33

    I agree and I see it as totally one-sided. Courtney is obsessed with Ginger, who is obviously boy-crazy. I know the writer didn't intend this (check it out in her interview with Old School Lane), but I believe Courtney is in love with Ginger. I'm straight and can see it too. Sure, I got jealous of my friends as a young teen, but I didn't want to bask in their scent or call their charm captivating. Courtney is so in love with Ginger, and it's so interesting that so many people pick up on this without it being suggested. Thanks so much for this dope analysis.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 6 дней назад +2

      Courtney wasn’t jealous of ginger Dodie was

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 4 дня назад +3

      I guess you're another one of those people that's just completely ignoring the massive crush on Daren's brother that Courtney has.

    • @JuliaH-c6f
      @JuliaH-c6f 17 часов назад

      ​​@shimauta1941Compulsive Heterosexuality can do that. It was coined by Adrienne Rich in the 80's in an essay that explains that not all women with an attraction to men have natural attraction to men. That heterosexuality can be ingrained.
      You could say that is an example of Courtney's possible Compulsive Heterosexuality. This popularly abbreviated to comphet.
      It's such a well known concept and experience that Chappelle Roan's song "Good Luck, Babe" is about someone having a comphet girlfriend.
      I highly recommend watching the video in its entirety, if you haven't already done so, and just here her out. It's good to listen to other people's perspectives on things. Don't immediately shut the idea down and bully people into silence just because this idea makes you uncomfortable.

  • @CecilyShawtcake
    @CecilyShawtcake 20 часов назад +6

    Courtney reminds me SO much of Tomoyo (a.k.a. Madison) from Cardcaptor Sakura. I only found out as an adult that Tomoyo canonically had a crush on Sakura in the Japanese language version... which would explain why Courtney has a similar energy towards Ginger.

  • @leavemealone802
    @leavemealone802 3 дня назад +9

    Bro, if always knew
    No one is that interested in a person without having a small attraction to it

  • @hollyccam
    @hollyccam 17 часов назад +4

    I love how it works either way. Your theory fits nicely but also close friendships at that age are pretty close to romantic relationships. I mean if you havent been confused for a couple with your bff, are you really bffs?

  • @BlackLabsLikeRuleDog
    @BlackLabsLikeRuleDog 2 дня назад +8

    As someone in high school who was in the more quieter social groups, who had a random from the more socialite social groups, Take Interest In Me For No Reason, only to have it to eventually show Signs of It Being Gay Attraction, I've always kinda seen it. Like I remember re-watching it that year, and being like "omg we have a friendship like that!". because i was trying to process, why she noticed me out of the crowd, and then she was overly-flirty, like blowing kisses overly flirty...in over a decade of retrospect, she was into me but VERY closeted lol. She met me through shared classes--art, history, spanish, gym, english... (And for those who wanted a good YA plot...she had a boyfriend and wound up switching schools...)

  • @freddyfazbreakdown
    @freddyfazbreakdown День назад +8

    As a young closeted WLW I just wanted a girl to like me the way Courtney liked Ginger ngl

  • @Decadence13666
    @Decadence13666 8 дней назад +45

    Honestly it was the Gripling siblings and the Foutley siblings. Pretty sure Blake had a thing for Carl.

    • @MegumiMary
      @MegumiMary 7 дней назад +6

      I thought the same! especially when I finally binged the whole series earlier this year

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 4 дня назад +5

      I guess you're both ignoring the massive crush Courtney has on Daren's brother Will. Courtney's infatuation with Ginger could hint at her being bi-curious but whether that would evolve into bisexuality or be outgrown in her adulthood we have no way to know given how the series concludes.
      I'm not even going to touch on Blake having a thing for Carol because honestly that one isn't even worth entertaining.

    • @MegumiMary
      @MegumiMary 4 дня назад +6

      @shimauta1941 Actually, I did think that Courtney was bi until I watched the whole video and the arguments leveraged about her interest in Will and the Senator's son kinda made me rethink my stance from "Courtney is Bi" to "Courtney is a Lesbian"
      Maybe actually watch the video since it seems clear you didn't

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 4 дня назад

      @@MegumiMary I don't feel the need to do that given I've watched the show in its entirety several times.

    • @MegumiMary
      @MegumiMary 4 дня назад +6

      ​@@shimauta619 fun fact: You watching something doesn't equal someone else wathcing something
      Your POV is entierly diffrent from others and your life experiances could blind you to pssibilities in storytelling that others see
      This is why it is important to value the opinions of others and take them in and see where they are comming from
      Most People hate Metroid Other M and yet my experiances with the game are entierly positive and my playthrough of the game on stream again today just reinforced exactly why I believe the game to be overhated....
      Take in opinions diffrent from yours- they do you no harm and could expand your worldview....

  • @eekk6230
    @eekk6230 День назад +6

    Im 5 minutes in but this reminds me of mean girls. Where the "dork" doesnt realize shes actually pretty

  • @y.m.or.4053
    @y.m.or.4053 День назад +6

    I absolutely see Courtney being a power lesbian

  • @addy8857
    @addy8857 2 дня назад +16

    Hear me out: Miranda is gay for Courtney and that is why she is jealous of Ginger.

  • @simsgirlgem
    @simsgirlgem 3 дня назад +10

    I mean her obsession with ginger I also if this is true she cared about ginger enough to let her know about Macy Dodie Miranda and mipsy trying to break up ginger and Darren

  • @chelseybrown2334
    @chelseybrown2334 17 часов назад +2

    I love this lol. When I was a kid I used to think Miranda had a crush on Courtney because she was so mad everytime Courtney was nice to her. I never took a second to wonder why she was so obsessed with Ginger lol.

  • @alittleofsomething
    @alittleofsomething День назад +5

    56:54 In Russian culture Sasha is a unisex name, so it's reasonable a guy would be called that

    • @callanightshade8079
      @callanightshade8079 21 час назад

      I thought that was the case

    • @alittleofsomething
      @alittleofsomething 21 час назад

      @callanightshade8079 I forgot to add, Sasha is a shortered version for Alexandra (women) and Alexander (male). It's like both sexes got thd same short version. And yeah, in my school I had at least one classmate named one of those names. We usually used surnames instead. I was one of them. I used to hate my name, but I think Alexandra sounds like little bells ringing so very cute

  • @hisfavoritedarkangel
    @hisfavoritedarkangel 14 часов назад +1

    Woah, I've never seen this show but Courtney is such a cute sapphic character!!! She deserved more recognition from Ginger as a good friend!! >:/

  • @WonderousSmiles
    @WonderousSmiles День назад +3

    Commenting for the algorithm, just to say. Too true!
    I've watched this back in the day, and even then it felt like Courtney liked Ginger..a lot. Way more thqn her canon platonic friends do

  • @sockruhtease
    @sockruhtease День назад +2

    Oy, I definitely remember the birth video in 7th grade. Mostly because my teacher mentioned how it's amazing, the district had a video without cursing.

  • @crescentcrab
    @crescentcrab 2 дня назад +5

    Forgive me, but Hoodsey's name is Robert Joseph, not Robert Jones. Great video!!

  • @JennyShull
    @JennyShull День назад +1

    I don’t know why I’m reminded of Naturally, Sadie is a Canadian teen comedy drama that ran for three seasons from June 24, 2005 to August 26, 2007 on Family Channel.

  • @Madcatzx
    @Madcatzx 2 месяца назад +14

    YOU ARE SO REAL FOR THIS!!! I was waiting for someone to make a video on this and I’m so glad you did!!

  • @nostalgiamostalgia0319
    @nostalgiamostalgia0319 4 месяца назад +15

    You will blow up, I had a blast listening to this project.
    I felt so sad by our hero's downfall though, but it was kinda a theme of peaking in a certain School, in this case, she peaked in MIDDLE school instead of the common high school.
    Then again, any problem that you can mention about Ginger and Dodie's friendship, you can say about Courtney and Miranda's.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  4 месяца назад +4

      @@nostalgiamostalgia0319 Thank you! I had a lot of fun doing this. It’s sad that she fell off, but it does make some sense that she just peaked. And in fairness, friendships in middle/HS can just be messy lol

  • @samrobacker346
    @samrobacker346 День назад +2

    I have no idea why but in my mind her butler ended up her new step dad after the show.

    • @callanightshade8079
      @callanightshade8079 21 час назад +1

      To be fair he was technically being some sort of fatherly figure to Courtney and her brother so that's not too far off

  • @simsgirlgem
    @simsgirlgem 3 дня назад +4

    Also another RUclipsr I think called memory lane jokes that Courtney and Macy got together after the show

  • @SundHerpaderp
    @SundHerpaderp 21 час назад +2

    This is an interesting video. I grew up watching this show and never thought of Courtney's character this way, but you bring up a lot of interesting points i never thought of before. It does seem like Courtney could have had a crush on Ginger. Her crush on Will doesnt necessarily mean she could never have a crush on Ginger or that she couldnt have had a crush on both of them at the same time. On the other hand, I can also see how Courtney could be interepreted as being overly sheltered/awkward due to her privileged upbringing and that she was just trying really hard to be Ginger's friend. I think it's open to interpretation but I think both takes are valid :3 (although I'm definitely in the Courtney is gay camp now just personally speaking lol)

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  16 часов назад

      @@SundHerpaderp I agree! Her being sheltered and having a different upbringing played a role in how she interacts with Ginger & others

  • @brenda-fo7yq
    @brenda-fo7yq Месяц назад +7

    I love this deep dive, I felt like I was talking to a friend. Not a lot of people make content on Ginger. Thank you ❤

  • @amywilkinson9134
    @amywilkinson9134 3 дня назад +4

    This is important

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 2 дня назад

      Why? Because retroactively projecting LGBTQIA+ labels onto fictional characters is life changing/life affirming for what is maybe 1 percent of the Earth's total population? This is fanfiction theorizing and like all fanfiction and fanfiction theorizing it should not be entertained as important in any way shape or form, let alone as reality.

  • @bluedreamer6564
    @bluedreamer6564 13 часов назад

    Deep dive on Blake's even more apparent obsession with Carl...?

  • @AndyyWithAY
    @AndyyWithAY 16 часов назад

    I definitely disagree with people's reading of Courtney as having romantic feelings for Ginger. You can be very attracted to, even obsessed with someone and not want to be with them in that way. But, I do love Courtney and am going to give the video a watch anyway

  • @LoreBeast
    @LoreBeast 4 дня назад +1

    At my school we actually did watch a health video with a birth and it did show things. However, we were in high school when we saw it not middle school.

  • @shaybarcellyia6830
    @shaybarcellyia6830 5 дней назад +13

    Ginger was not gay for Ginger. Courtney was fascinated that Ginger was the only one who treated her like a normal person. Ginger didn’t grovel, treat her like royalty etc. I do love “As told by Ginger” content though.

    • @sowmindful1501
      @sowmindful1501 4 дня назад +3

      Agreed, I could never see Courtney being into any of the female characters, but Ginger did a great job at being her friend.

  • @myragingwhormoans
    @myragingwhormoans 17 часов назад

    idk know anything about this. i'm going to ao3

  • @Kristeen93
    @Kristeen93 16 часов назад +2

    Only 3 minutes into the video, and you've already contradicted yourself. First minute you say you're confirming she's gay, just to say the CREATOR said she wasn't. I'm not even going to bother watching the rest. I really do hope you pointed out she had a crush on Darren's brother somewhere.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  16 часов назад +1

      @@Kristeen93 it’s almost as if people can have different interpretations of art and fiction 💕

    • @Kristeen93
      @Kristeen93 16 часов назад

      @georgie.monologues-z2d that's fine and dandy. That said you can't really say you're confirming or proving something about the show like it's a fact and not an opinion. Especially when afew minutes later you admit that the creator of that show said the it wasn't true! Not only is it wrong it makes you look bad contradicting yourself within the first few minutes of an over 2 hour video. I'm sure there are plenty of fan fics of the show that do make her gay, but they aren't canon.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  16 часов назад +1

      @Kristeen93 courtney gripling actually told me that she’s gay herself

    • @Kristeen93
      @Kristeen93 15 часов назад

      @georgie.monologues-z2d oh ok, you just live in your pretend world. Gotcha.

  • @Fred-z7d5k
    @Fred-z7d5k 3 месяца назад +1

    is Courtney Gripling rich????

    • @MegumiMary
      @MegumiMary 7 дней назад

      watch the entire series
      you'll be in for a show that has aged like a fine wine (in spite of a single transphobic moment in the finale that is easily forgiven for how incredible everything else holds up to the test of time)
      it is all on Paramount+ and worth it!

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 2 дня назад +1

      Assuming that's not an attempt at trolling, her family is what the actually rich in society would call "new money" for most of the show.
      By the end her father gets busted for fraud and the family sees a big enough fall from grace that Ginger's family is set to move into Courtney's house and Courtney's family is set to move into Ginger's house before the epilogue which takes place years into the future.
      The epilogue in question doesn't give us anything to work with regarding the fate of Courtney's family although most people take the fact she isn't in the final scenes as an opportunity to say Courtney and her family probably aren't doing too well.

    • @Fred-z7d5k
      @Fred-z7d5k День назад

      @@shimauta619 .....;.

  • @KHXionXIV
    @KHXionXIV 2 дня назад

    Whole dynamic reminds me of season 1 of the show “You” from Netflix

  • @shimauta619
    @shimauta619 4 дня назад +8

    Nice clickbait title. I guess you're ignoring how much of a crush Courtney has on Daren's brother Will. The best I could give you on this is that she might be bi-curious because she definitely does have some level of infatuation with Ginger.
    Considering everything we don't know about what happened to her later in her life it's a 50/50 in either direction of whether she outgrows her bi-curiosity or it evolves into her living her life as a bisexual (whether openly or privately is likewise a toss up).

    • @sowmindful1501
      @sowmindful1501 4 дня назад +2

      This is exactly what I thought, and at an excessive 2hr 14m. I love the show, but I cannot spend over 2hrs, listening to a fan fiction theory about Courtney. And yes, she was thirsty for Will.

    • @enigmaticallis3110
      @enigmaticallis3110 4 дня назад

      Ya'll are literally taking someone else's opinion way too seriously 😂😂😂 also mustn't we not completely ignore the fact that there are plenty of examples of gay people out there guilty of denying their gayness for decades and suddenly after years of marriage and children with someone of the opposite sex, they suddenly confess that they are gay!! Seeming out of the blue..😮😮😮 this is absolutely not unheard of.. takes a two second Google search 😉👍

    • @watersoluble5871
      @watersoluble5871 2 дня назад +5

      Not clickbait. It's her take. Anyway, the Daren's brother thing could be taken in the context of Courtney being obsessed with social status and her constant clutching onto the status quo of things that Ginger always brought her down to earth on when the two were brought in to butt heads on issues. All things considered: it's a kid's nickelodeon show from the 2000s, even if there were people in the production team that wrote things to indicate Courtney having a crush on Ginger, there was NOOO way they would be able to fully pursue it. Look at Legend of Korra. It aired over a decade after As Told By Ginger, and Nickelodeon wouldn't let Korra and Asami do more than have a couple hugs, hold hands, and make eye contact, and wouldn't even allow confirmation in dialogue.

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 2 дня назад

      ​@@watersoluble5871 The fact of the matter is the character was not written as a lesbian. Thus making the claim in the title of the video is indeed an attempt at clickbait.
      It's not posing a question, it is outright claiming the statement as fact rather than the fanfiction nonsense notion it is.

    • @KreepyKat911
      @KreepyKat911 День назад +4

      Lesbian here. Courtney is extremely gay.

  • @amandakushner8665
    @amandakushner8665 5 дней назад +6

    She was not gay. She was trying to be a good friend of Ginger. Stop thinking that everything is gay or turning straight characters into gay characters which they’re not.

    • @sowmindful1501
      @sowmindful1501 4 дня назад +4

      My thoughts are the same, but I just remind myself that this is just some persons yuri fan fiction about Ginger and Courtney.

    • @enigmaticallis3110
      @enigmaticallis3110 4 дня назад +11

      Calm down.. everybody has a right to their own opinion...🙄🙄
      The show left Courtney's character pretty ambiguous when it comes to who she ends up becoming in the future. Most people in general don't know for sure until they are and adult!!🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @simsgirlgem
      @simsgirlgem 3 дня назад

      Oh my god why do you care why are you watching a video about Courtney possibly being queer if it offends you so much

    • @deceased_water
      @deceased_water 2 дня назад +8

      dont like, dont watch :)!!
      people can headcanon or interpret characters however they wish. if you don't like it, L. get over yourself and ignore it, go watch something else.

    • @sowmindful1501
      @sowmindful1501 2 дня назад

      @@deceased_water no way, and stop getting off on telling other people what to do. Sure I may not like her opinion, but I wouldn’t tell her to not make the video.

  • @ali.espinoza
    @ali.espinoza 3 месяца назад +11

    Im in my mid 30’s and recently going back to childhood memories because I just found out I am not heterosexual. I kind of felt this « fascination » since childhood for same saxe couples in show, and when trying to remember if I had fictional girl crushes the first two characters that came to my mind where Ginger and Courtney.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  3 месяца назад +9

      Me too. In hindsight some of my friendships that were a bit more obsessive were actually crushes before I realized I wasn’t straight

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 4 дня назад +1

      This is the moment where I step in to tell you that being fascinated by someone of the same gender does not equate to homosexuality. You and the person who made the video both have made the choice to ignore that Courtney spends the whole series crushing massively on Daren's brother.
      At best, and I still think of it as a stretch and people of the LGBTQIA+ persuasion seeing things and projecting, Courtney might be bi-curious. Whether that would evolve into bisexuality or be outgrown in her adulthood though we have no way to know due to how the series ends.

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 День назад +2

      There's no such thing as "seeing things and projecting" when it comes to fiction, any interpretation is valid as long as it is supported by the text. And just because a girl has a crush on a boy doesn't automatically make her straight, bisexuality is a thing.

    • @georgie.monologues-z2d
      @georgie.monologues-z2d  День назад +1

      @@shimauta619 this is the moment where I step in to tell you to take a deep breath & lighten up lol they’re characters, they do not exist

    • @shimauta619
      @shimauta619 17 часов назад

      @@georgie.monologues-z2d Yeah they're characters who don't really exist but you still want to read them as LGBTQIA+ instead of Heterosexual. Because being heterosexual is a bad thing to you somehow I guess.